Thanks for unlocking some of the mysteries here! You say the toe switch is only used to change the expression pedal effects from wah to volume, etc. But if you're just using it for a wah you can use the toe switch to turn it on and off. No auto detect needed. You don't actually need to assign a foot switch for the wah either.
i just realized i can use it for a volume swell on one preset - then instantly switch to a second preset and have it be used as a Wah pedal! this is incredibly versatile ! thank you!!
Doug, thanks for putting the time in and sharing. Editing, playing and tones were great. For me, on my pedalboard (with Iridium) and now the TMP, I use a lot of swells with ambient tones in Worship Music. One thing I noticed and changed on my board was putting all my compression, boosts, and drives/OD in front of my volume pedal (last pedal in the chain before hitting amp modeler and wet effects). That way, the drive pedals are receiving the guitar signal on whatever the guitar volume is (typically full 10 for me) and when the volume pedal is engaged toe side, the drive signal is full as you volume up. Suggest trying the volume pedal behind the Big Green right before the amp and see if that helps with this particular sample on the TMP.
Doug! Love your videos! So helpful! Hi, watched one that I wanted to work on about setting up a song. It was live free and was real basic and just what I needed, but I can’t find it. Did you take it down and can I see that one I really want to go over it, and I think it will help me get a foundation for how to use my tone master pro. Any other suggestions about how I can build that knowledge of how to do songs sets lists and presets would be great. Thanks again.
I don't take down any of my videos so it's still available, but i don't know which one offhand. Sorry! I've also created videos about building presets, songs and setlists. If you do a search on my videos you should find at least a few that deal with those subjects. Thanks for watching!
I just got the Headrush expression pedal and tried your preset with the Big Green and the volume swells were smooth as butter so I'm wondering if the problem may be with the Mission pedal itself?
Hey Doug, Love your vids, I'm waiting on my Mission Engineering SP1-TMP Tone Master Pro Expression Pedal to arrive and have a? You mentioned that you can use the SP1 for volume first in the chain like useing your guitar volume or at the end of the chain to adjust amp volume, Can you put a volume first in the chain and use the toe switch and end of chain on the same preset if needed especially for a live situation.
Yes - you'd set up one Volume pedal at the beginning of the chain and another Volume pedal at the end. Go thru the setup in this vid, but substitute the 2nd Volume Pedal for the Wah. Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks for the great video. I think would be awesome if you could create a video on how to set up the expression pedal for pitch band in lieu of a whammy bar.
Thanx Doug for the time in putting these videos together. I just bought this Fender Tone Master Pro. I was wondering when I am in preset mode. Can I move bank Up and down buttons so that I can have my main preset on the first button instead of that button being bank down button....I also want to move the tuner to the top row......Is this possible
Hi Doug. First off, thanks for all the helpful videos on the Fender TMP. I have the Mission Fender TMP pedal. One thing I haven’t been able to do is set the wah pedal to switchless bypass heel down and the volume pedal switchless bypass off simultaneously. If one is set to heel down so is the other and if one is set to off both are. Is this the way it is or have I missed something? If you see this and have time let me know what you think. Thanks!
You don't need to use switchless bypass with the Mission TMP pedal, because it has a toe switch. If you go to the 13:33 mark in this video, I show you how to set it up as a volume+wah pedal. Hope this helps!
Hey Doug, thank you for the video. Just what I needed! I have a question if you don't mind. I am exploring the same method you cover in 14:00, using both volume and wah pedals in expression pedal, and switching one from another with the toe switch. However the toe switch is momentary, it changes to the wah option only when fully depressed. When I move my feet back, pedal goes back to functioning as volume only. Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong?
Go to Settings -> I/O -> EXP/CTRL and change Toe Switch to LATCHING. I really should've mentioned that in the video, so thanks for bringing it to my attention 👍
Hey Doug thanks for your content about TMP Do you know any method to control how much of the signal goes to left and to the right using the expression pedal ? I’m thinking about a parallel signal path for a song that starts with left signal only and after some few bars the right signals comes in gradually using the expression pedal. Do you think is this achievable with the TMP ? Thanks dude
Wow, good question. Let me do some research and get back to you, because I think this can be done. Are you looking to use the expression pedal just to switch between the top and bottom path, or do you also want it so the top path is only heard on the left side, and the bottom path is only heard on the right? So you'd be panning your signal as you change paths? That might be trickier, so let me know how you'd like it to work.
Hi Doug thanks for your videos. How can I set up the foot switch so it’s a volume pedal but when I click on the Toe switch it swaps from a volume to wah pedal still using Exp 1 but now as a wah?
Doug try a faster taper speed for the swells that may help… My problem is I am not getting global volume from preset to preset… Eg if I lower volume with Fender mission EP (expression pedal) on a preset to blend with the band and switch to next preset the volume jumps to 100% with EP halfway and no control until I push it all the way to the toe to gain control of the volume. Is there a work around this with the Fender mission pedal???
Thanks for your info! Sorry to bother you with this but my brother bought one and we don't know how to use the BT haha... How do we connect it via bluetooth? do we need an adaptor or something? Something specific?
Click on the gear icon in the upper righthand corner of the screen on the TM Pro, then click on "Bluetooth" on the bottom of the screen. Turn BT on, then put your other device in pairing mode. They should find each other. Good luck!
Hi! Can I use the Mission Engineering EP1-KP-BK (version without the spring) instead of the SP1-TMP? Specifications seem to be the same, TRS for the Expression Pedal and TS for the Toe Switch. Also both have 10K Ω Linear potentiometers. I don't know if the switch makes a difference, EP1-KP-BK has a momentary switch, I can't find any information which switch is in the SP1-TMP, momentary or latching (would it make a difference, though?)... The EP1-KP-BK is 50 bucks cheaper and the SP1-TMP is out of stock everywhere at the moment anyway, that's why I'm asking... 😉
So I ordered a 3PDT switch, put it in the EP1-KP and it works fine. All you have to do is solder the momentary switch out, solder the two wires on the 3PDT switch (one on one of the middle pins and one on one of the outer ones, for example 7 and 8 or 8 and 9 [...]) and you're done.
Hi,I'm trying to set up the wha, and I've followed your steps, but it only makes the wha sound and the pedal up n down. Doesn't do anything? I might have changed the settings in another screen, the reverse ? Someone told me to try that, so I'm not sure what I've done. Please help. :)
Thanks for watching! Are you using the Fender expression pedal? If so, make sure that you are using a TRS cable for expression and a TS cable for the toe switch. Then watch the video again to make sure that you're setting it up correctly. Hope this helps!
Does it work with a Ernie Ball VP Volume Pedal? I am trying to use mine, w/ TRS cable, but it is not fully adjusting the position. Anything I am doing wrong perhaps?
Fabio - I had replied to you, but then it disappeared. Your pedal is an analog volume pedal only; it's not an expression pedal as well. So if you plug your guitar into it, and then connect it to the TMP's Instrument jack, it should work as a volume pedal with no problems. But if you try to connect it to one of the expression pedal jacks - even with a TRS cable - it won't work. Hope this helps!
Hello, first of all, thank you for this video. On the other hand, I have two TRS cables and I really don't want to buy another cable, would there be a problem if I use both TRS cables?
I'm not sure. But the cable you should use is just your basic guitar or patch cable. If you don't have a spare I guess you could try a TRS and see if it works. Thanks for watching!
You’ll need a TRS cable and a standard guitar cable (TS). If you look on the bottom of the pedal, it tells you which jack is for EXP and which jack is for TOE. Plug one end of the TRS cable into the EXP jack on the pedal, and the other end into the EXP1 jack on the TMP. Plug one end of the standard guitar cable into the TOE jack on the pedal, and the other end into the TOE SW jack on the TMP.
Technically no. The EV30 uses TRS outputs on both jacks, while the TMP needs to see one TRS and one TS. Also, the TMP uses the toe switch to switch from volume to wah, and the EV30 doesn't have a toe switch. However, as an alternative you might be able to use a footswitch on the TMP to toggle back and forth between the volume and wah blocks, and you would only need 1 TRS cable to go from OUT1 on your pedal into the TMP. Let me know how it works out for you.
@@DougBsDigitalDen Thank you for your reply, Doug. I really love your videos very informational. I’m still not sold on the tone master Pro. I’m use to using just a paddleboard and it’s a lot to get used to. I have a blues, junior amp and I don’t own the one that goes with the tone master. I wanted to use it just as a paddleboard. Do you think there’s a better suggestion for something like that I was looking at that helix floor. Let me know what you think. Thanks again.
I don't think so. It looks like that pedal was designed for specific Fender amps. You just use a regular 1/4" cable to connect it, right? The TMP requires a TRS cable for the expression pedal connection.
Yes, TRS would suffice for either wah or volume, but if you're using it for wah you'll need to use 1 of your footswitches to turn the wah on and off, as the TM Pro doesn't have auto-detect (yet).
Using the toe switch you can turn the wah on and off without having to turn it on from the foot switches. Just assign the toe switch to the same expression pedal. You will have to use the TS cable.
@@davyb70 Ye, I get it. Thank you. :) I was thinking about my cry baby, which itself has a switch for turning off, but that pedal goes in front of the amp, in a loop, like any ordinary pedal, and not an expression pedal. Take care mate.
@@DougBsDigitalDen yea was a shame I like the fender if it was more like a $600 unit there's nothing in it other than maybe two decent amps. It's 2023. Quad Cortex slays the fender for $1700
Im with you@@Bogeyman19Was4BraindeadPeople. I avoided modelers until the TMP, and have loved this unit so far. I couldn't wait for an intuitive, touchscreen unit that was clean and simple. And here we are
Thanks for unlocking some of the mysteries here! You say the toe switch is only used to change the expression pedal effects from wah to volume, etc. But if you're just using it for a wah you can use the toe switch to turn it on and off. No auto detect needed. You don't actually need to assign a foot switch for the wah either.
A very big thank you to you from France where we really appreciate your videos 👍👍👍👍
I appreciate that!
i just realized i can use it for a volume swell on one preset - then instantly switch to a second preset and have it be used as a Wah pedal! this is incredibly versatile ! thank you!!
Yes you can!
Doug, thanks for putting the time in and sharing. Editing, playing and tones were great. For me, on my pedalboard (with Iridium) and now the TMP, I use a lot of swells with ambient tones in Worship Music. One thing I noticed and changed on my board was putting all my compression, boosts, and drives/OD in front of my volume pedal (last pedal in the chain before hitting amp modeler and wet effects). That way, the drive pedals are receiving the guitar signal on whatever the guitar volume is (typically full 10 for me) and when the volume pedal is engaged toe side, the drive signal is full as you volume up. Suggest trying the volume pedal behind the Big Green right before the amp and see if that helps with this particular sample on the TMP.
Doug! Love your videos! So helpful! Hi, watched one that I wanted to work on about setting up a song. It was live free and was real basic and just what I needed, but I can’t find it. Did you take it down and can I see that one I really want to go over it, and I think it will help me get a foundation for how to use my tone master pro. Any other suggestions about how I can build that knowledge of how to do songs sets lists and presets would be great. Thanks again.
I don't take down any of my videos so it's still available, but i don't know which one offhand. Sorry! I've also created videos about building presets, songs and setlists. If you do a search on my videos you should find at least a few that deal with those subjects. Thanks for watching!
That sounds huge! Very cool
Thanks!
Tx dude for your video , you save me ..!! Big up from France 🇫🇷
Glad I could help
Thanks for this video, if there was ever a reason to spend £180 on a wah pedal this was it, great video🇬🇧🇬🇧
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@DougBsDigitalDenPedals finally in stock from Fender and I’ve ordered it, should be here on Monday thanks again Doug
I just got the Headrush expression pedal and tried your preset with the Big Green and the volume swells were smooth as butter so I'm wondering if the problem may be with the Mission pedal itself?
Hey Doug, Love your vids, I'm waiting on my Mission Engineering SP1-TMP Tone Master Pro Expression Pedal to arrive and have a? You mentioned that you can use the SP1 for volume first in the chain like useing your guitar volume or at the end of the chain to adjust amp volume, Can you put a volume first in the chain and use the toe switch and end of chain on the same preset if needed especially for a live situation.
Yes - you'd set up one Volume pedal at the beginning of the chain and another Volume pedal at the end. Go thru the setup in this vid, but substitute the 2nd Volume Pedal for the Wah. Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks for the instructional video!
You're welcome!
Thanks for the great video. I think would be awesome if you could create a video on how to set up the expression pedal for pitch band in lieu of a whammy bar.
Great suggestion!
Informative video. Subscribed and liked after 1:20 in. Good work.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanx Doug for the time in putting these videos together. I just bought this Fender Tone Master Pro. I was wondering when I am in preset mode. Can I move bank Up and down buttons so that I can have my main preset on the first button instead of that button being bank down button....I also want to move the tuner to the top row......Is this possible
Hi Doug. First off, thanks for all the helpful videos on the Fender TMP. I have the Mission Fender TMP pedal. One thing I haven’t been able to do is set the wah pedal to switchless bypass heel down and the volume pedal switchless bypass off simultaneously. If one is set to heel down so is the other and if one is set to off both are. Is this the way it is or have I missed something? If you see this and have time let me know what you think. Thanks!
You don't need to use switchless bypass with the Mission TMP pedal, because it has a toe switch. If you go to the 13:33 mark in this video, I show you how to set it up as a volume+wah pedal. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the reply and the explanation!
Hey Doug, thank you for the video. Just what I needed! I have a question if you don't mind. I am exploring the same method you cover in 14:00, using both volume and wah pedals in expression pedal, and switching one from another with the toe switch. However the toe switch is momentary, it changes to the wah option only when fully depressed. When I move my feet back, pedal goes back to functioning as volume only. Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong?
Go to Settings -> I/O -> EXP/CTRL and change Toe Switch to LATCHING. I really should've mentioned that in the video, so thanks for bringing it to my attention 👍
Hey Doug thanks for your content about TMP
Do you know any method to control how much of the signal goes to left and to the right using the expression pedal ?
I’m thinking about a parallel signal path for a song that starts with left signal only and after some few bars the right signals comes in gradually using the expression pedal. Do you think is this achievable with the TMP ?
Thanks dude
Wow, good question. Let me do some research and get back to you, because I think this can be done. Are you looking to use the expression pedal just to switch between the top and bottom path, or do you also want it so the top path is only heard on the left side, and the bottom path is only heard on the right? So you'd be panning your signal as you change paths? That might be trickier, so let me know how you'd like it to work.
Hi Doug thanks for your videos. How can I set up the foot switch so it’s a volume pedal but when I click on the Toe switch it swaps from a volume to wah pedal still using Exp 1 but now as a wah?
The 14:30 mark in this video will show you what you're looking for 👍
Doug try a faster taper speed for the swells that may help… My problem is I am not getting global volume from preset to preset… Eg if I lower volume with Fender mission EP (expression pedal) on a preset to blend with the band and switch to next preset the volume jumps to 100% with EP halfway and no control until I push it all the way to the toe to gain control of the volume. Is there a work around this with the Fender mission pedal???
Marc - no workaround that I know, I'm hoping that it'll be in a firmware fix.
Thanks for your info! Sorry to bother you with this but my brother bought one and we don't know how to use the BT haha... How do we connect it via bluetooth? do we need an adaptor or something? Something specific?
Click on the gear icon in the upper righthand corner of the screen on the TM Pro, then click on "Bluetooth" on the bottom of the screen. Turn BT on, then put your other device in pairing mode. They should find each other. Good luck!
Thanks
You're welcome, hope it helps 👍
Hi!
Can I use the Mission Engineering EP1-KP-BK (version without the spring) instead of the SP1-TMP? Specifications seem to be the same, TRS for the Expression Pedal and TS for the Toe Switch. Also both have 10K Ω Linear potentiometers. I don't know if the switch makes a difference, EP1-KP-BK has a momentary switch, I can't find any information which switch is in the SP1-TMP, momentary or latching (would it make a difference, though?)... The EP1-KP-BK is 50 bucks cheaper and the SP1-TMP is out of stock everywhere at the moment anyway, that's why I'm asking... 😉
Hi - I did a little research, and the SP1-TMP has a latching toe switch. Sorry!
So I ordered a 3PDT switch, put it in the EP1-KP and it works fine. All you have to do is solder the momentary switch out, solder the two wires on the 3PDT switch (one on one of the middle pins and one on one of the outer ones, for example 7 and 8 or 8 and 9 [...]) and you're done.
What stand are you using for the Tone master Pro in the background?
Hi,I'm trying to set up the wha, and I've followed your steps, but it only makes the wha sound and the pedal up n down. Doesn't do anything? I might have changed the settings in another screen, the reverse ? Someone told me to try that, so I'm not sure what I've done. Please help. :)
Thanks for watching! Are you using the Fender expression pedal? If so, make sure that you are using a TRS cable for expression and a TS cable for the toe switch. Then watch the video again to make sure that you're setting it up correctly. Hope this helps!
Does it work with a Ernie Ball VP Volume Pedal? I am trying to use mine, w/ TRS cable, but it is not fully adjusting the position. Anything I am doing wrong perhaps?
Fabio - I had replied to you, but then it disappeared. Your pedal is an analog volume pedal only; it's not an expression pedal as well. So if you plug your guitar into it, and then connect it to the TMP's Instrument jack, it should work as a volume pedal with no problems. But if you try to connect it to one of the expression pedal jacks - even with a TRS cable - it won't work. Hope this helps!
Hello, first of all, thank you for this video. On the other hand, I have two TRS cables and I really don't want to buy another cable, would there be a problem if I use both TRS cables?
I'm not sure. But the cable you should use is just your basic guitar or patch cable. If you don't have a spare I guess you could try a TRS and see if it works. Thanks for watching!
bonjour Doug. le Fender tome master pro possède t il un auto wah ??
merci pour ta reponse
Hello - no, there is no auto-wah in the Tone Master Pro right now. hopefully it will be in a firmware update.
How do youu hook this up with cables ? there is 2 input slots on pedal. Where do they go on tonemasteeer pro ? THANK YOU. !
You’ll need a TRS cable and a standard guitar cable (TS). If you look on the bottom of the pedal, it tells you which jack is for EXP and which jack is for TOE. Plug one end of the TRS cable into the EXP jack on the pedal, and the other end into the EXP1 jack on the TMP. Plug one end of the standard guitar cable into the TOE jack on the pedal, and the other end into the TOE SW jack on the TMP.
Hi Thanks for the information. I was wondering if I can use my Boss Ev30 as a volume pedal and a wah in the same chain.
Thanks again
Technically no. The EV30 uses TRS outputs on both jacks, while the TMP needs to see one TRS and one TS. Also, the TMP uses the toe switch to switch from volume to wah, and the EV30 doesn't have a toe switch. However, as an alternative you might be able to use a footswitch on the TMP to toggle back and forth between the volume and wah blocks, and you would only need 1 TRS cable to go from OUT1 on your pedal into the TMP. Let me know how it works out for you.
@@DougBsDigitalDen Thank you for your reply, Doug. I really love your videos very informational. I’m still not sold on the tone master Pro. I’m use to using just a paddleboard and it’s a lot to get used to. I have a blues, junior amp and I don’t own the one that goes with the tone master.
I wanted to use it just as a paddleboard. Do you think there’s a better suggestion for something like that I was looking at that helix floor. Let me know what you think. Thanks again.
I have the fender EXP-1 pedal that i used for my mustang amp, does it work with the TMP?
I don't think so. It looks like that pedal was designed for specific Fender amps. You just use a regular 1/4" cable to connect it, right? The TMP requires a TRS cable for the expression pedal connection.
Is there a way to use a pedal to control the main volume of TMP rather than just controlling the volumes of individual presets?
If you mean the Master Volume Control, the answer is "no". Sorry!
So to run this pedal for just volume I need a TRS cable? Or can I use my short guitar cable?
TRS 👍
Hi....Do we need to plug both TS and TRS? Wouldn t the TRS just suffice for wah or volume? Thanks man, great video as usual :)
Yes, TRS would suffice for either wah or volume, but if you're using it for wah you'll need to use 1 of your footswitches to turn the wah on and off, as the TM Pro doesn't have auto-detect (yet).
@@DougBsDigitalDen RIght, I got it. Thank you very much :)
Using the toe switch you can turn the wah on and off without having to turn it on from the foot switches. Just assign the toe switch to the same expression pedal. You will have to use the TS cable.
@@davyb70 Ye, I get it. Thank you. :) I was thinking about my cry baby, which itself has a switch for turning off, but that pedal goes in front of the amp, in a loop, like any ordinary pedal, and not an expression pedal. Take care mate.
Can you use a standard wah pedal with the TMP?
Sure! Guitar -> wah pedal -> TMP 👍
@@DougBsDigitalDen Super. Thanks.
Wow 😂 I'm soo glad I took the Tone Master pro back n got Helix. The effects in Fender are absolutely horrible
Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing okay. Thanks for the comment!
@@DougBsDigitalDen yea was a shame I like the fender if it was more like a $600 unit there's nothing in it other than maybe two decent amps. It's 2023. Quad Cortex slays the fender for $1700
I love TMP. To each his own.
Im with you@@Bogeyman19Was4BraindeadPeople. I avoided modelers until the TMP, and have loved this unit so far. I couldn't wait for an intuitive, touchscreen unit that was clean and simple. And here we are