The Tragedy of Grunge and the Pacific North West Music Scene
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The Tragedy of Grunge and the Pacific North West Music Scene of the 80s and early 90s.
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I enjoy your punk rock British accent 😘
Thank you for doing this and in a tasteful, respectful, professional, yet conversational way. I can really appreciate the time you put into this and I hope it was cathartic and for you
there's a great book if you're interested in this scene, called Grunge Is Dead. It's a 1st person account of the 80s-90s Seattle music scene told by the people who were there , band members, producers, promoters, tour managers, friends, journalists, DJs, etc... just tryin to help
I have it. Thanks 😊
This is one of the best videos/ essays I've seen on the subject. A lot of people seem to either be glorifying this tragedy or turning it into something it was not.
I also love how you mentioned less known musicians- for example, i was surprised when you talked about John Baker Saunders, because seemingly no one ever remembers him.
The one thing I would say add is that it was not justthe preexisting heroin epidemic that caused these deaths- fame did as well. In 1991, these people were catapulted with no preperation from almost complete obscurity to being the biggest names in music. The attention, the people seemingoy waiting for their downfall, lack of privacy, plus the feeling like they 'betrayed' their punk roots by being mainstream; all tool their toll. The musicians themsepves talked about it- the best examples would be the lyrics of Alice In chains's 'Nutshell' where Layne talks about the downside of fame, and multiple interviews in which Lurt stated he always had that attitude where the mainstream is the enemy, and then felt conflicted when he became the mainstream himself.
Wow! Thank you. That's so kind of you to say. You are quite right. Nobody is prepared for that level of fame. I cannot imagine having to deal with such intrusion. I'm a musician myself, when I think about what could have been, I tend to just be grateful that I became jaded about the industry long before it had the chance to swallow me up.
The 90s were a depressing time. After the punk movement of the 80s we had this freedom to do everything, but we just didn't know what to do. The 2000s were just around the corner and the world was coming to an end, we knew we would be in the year 2000, but we also knew we had no chance against hunger, war and pure evil. Our parents grew up with jobs. They had enough money to buy a small house and a car. We grew up when the system was starting to break down, plus the wave of heroin. We had so much pain and anger inside that we wanted to scream it all out. Grunge was the right music for that time.
Nirvana played wrong, bad and screamed, but that is punk. Punk is the beauty in the ugly. Have a look at some of the interviews with Kurt and how he is joking and serious at the same time. He was making a big joke out of it and he was being very sarcastic, not everybody understands that. Have a look at this Nirvana top ten show where they had to play on playback, they play all the instruments so wrong to the playback. Nirvana were making a joke out of these pop shows, they were making a joke out of themselves and playing this role... The sad thing is that in the end most people believe that you are what you are making fun of. Another thing was that Nirvana was on the verge of breaking up, Kurt often mentioned that he wanted to kick Dave Grohl out, so there was already a rift, while Dave was already writing his own songs. Maybe one more album and Dave would leave Nirvana, when you have so much potential and you have to play the drums, it makes your life very sad. Maybe he showed some songs to Kurt and Kurt was in denial about his influence but he was aware that sooner or later Nirvana would split.
where these deaths and heroin just a grunge problem? i mean many people died from heroin in the 90s and still today artists like lil peep, mac miller, juice wrld etc are dying from drug abuse. i think that artists are all very sensitive to the world and evil people try to make money off them maybe even isolate them more and the downward spiral of depression goes deeper. If Kurt would have been a normal person, maybe he would have gone to concerts and he would have lived his life, but no one would have known him.
Thanks for sharing. Appreciated :) I guess rather than writing a whole ass reply, I'll just share a time stamp 😁 53:06
Personally, I really enjoyed the 90s, in spite of my own personal difficulties, and although I spent a large portion of it tripping balls at music festivals. haha
The late 70s were much more depressing by far with the Manchester scene and Joy Division was arguably the most depressing band of all time. Though Joy Division is considered as postpunk, they not only had something to say but also put the bass and drums as lead instruments which have yet to be duplicated. They have stood the test of time and year by year are attracting a newer and wider audience. Nirvana and grunge are not. Regardless, the Punk Movement emerged in 74 in NY and in England in 76 and grew from there, but not in the 80s. It stuck around because it's about anger and attitude and the musicians for the most part can usually play a 3 chord progression without fumbling through it, unlike grunge where the musicians fumbled through simpleton twangs in which case there was absolutely no excuse for it. This taught others how to act, behave, and be because it was such an easy thing to do. Grunge was about boredom, namely Nirvana and others who hit it big for a brief moment, and up-and-coming bands and artists trying to duplicate their success in the genre of grunge because they knew it was such an easy thing to do in which case it was. So. Where do you get the impressionable idea that Nirvana was somehow punk because they were not? Now imagine you as Kurt. Wow. Do you really believe he wanted to be worshiped and idolized as a beacon with all that pain and anger inside that YOU wanted to scream it all out? No offense but how selfish are you? Don't say "we". Nearly everybody who once listened to them has moved on. Btw, I was there right in the thick of it in Seattle going to college from 91-92 and there was one hell of a lot more going on than grunge. Yes, you should indeed have a look at some of the interviews with Kurt stating he was bored and faking it which means there can't possibly be any passion, none. And his poetry cutups which usually don't have meaning in the first place, two or three subjects in a song, not thematic at all. Would you like the exact quotes? Who are you or who is anyone to clearly, without question, misinterpret especially when desperately asked not to? Let Kurt and others be. Please. Please don't paint someone into a corner that they didn't ask for. Kurt was sensitive. He could not handle the fame just like nearly all. So why did and still are you and a few others like you giving it to him? Again. Stop. Please. Now you are right though it's not in any way true for all. Some seek fame and once there they bask in its luxurious splendor. But it rarely lasts long. Again, you are right, once fame was achieved, there was no possible way Kurt could have been a normal person. Please take care and have fun. No hard feelings.
@@enterthesubconscious8731 maybe the 70's were more depressing, but i cannot tell because i did not live in the 70's. like all the other people in the world, i can only write and tell from my point of view in history. You can also read that I'm not a native English speaker, so it's difficult for me to write every detail. i can only tell the point of view for me and all the people i meet in the 90s who were then 16 to 20 years old ( so teenagers ) and Nirvana was a big influence for all of us ( alternative people ) in the 90s. With Guns n Roses, rock music was no longer something "dangerous" and "satanic" and became mainstream. Bands like Alice Cooper, Kiss etc. were already dead and not our generation. Nobody ever said music must be complex and more then 3 chords, ever listen to "pop charts"? all songs that get famous are very simple, while I know bands in my town playing complex own songs like Pink Floyd, Dream Theater but it's not "mainstream" so they never get out of our town. yes boredom was a big thing in the 90's but not all, do you really think nirvana could get that big famous till today just because of boredom? never heard of that story! i bet with you that more people in the world know nirvana than joy devision, in fact nirvana change alternative music forever that said by many artists.
I would say early nirvana was more punk than grunge, have you ever listened to anything other than the nevermind album?! The nevermind album was mixed like hell in the studio and it was never played that way live. I think every artist wants to have money for food, a flat, a car etc. dont tell me a person makes art for nobody, every artist wants to be listened to too. like every painter wants to be seen in a gallery. Especially Kurt needed money for drugs like every junkie in the world.)
I agree with you that Nirvana is going to be bigger than Kurt ever thought it would be. I watch a lot of interviews with Kurt and he gets bored because he always has the same questions and most of the time it is about smells like teen spirit.
The lyrics of the Nirvana songs touch a lot of people, so who are you to judge ? every song that has made people sit down and think about the lyrics has already fulfilled its mission. Don't tell me that all nirvana fans until today are just "blinded" and "can't find a deeper meaning" please look in the mirror yourself maybe you are the only person in the world that can't find a meaning?
I say nirvana is punk because i cant listen to any grunge band like alice in chains, stone temple pilots etc. I can't listen to them because they are to depressingand (like funeral music) .Nirvana had power in their ass and played live dirty, wrong and destroyed the stage (what music do this? punk!) I prefer Lil Peep more than any grunge band because the lyrics give me a point of view of teenagers and how they feel, think andsee their world. The same did Nirvana for me in my teenage years, Nirvana was power, screaming in your face and when you asked "what??" the answer was "nevermind" and that was how the 90's were for me and becouse im not the only listener to nirvana, i believe many people feel this. Maybe thats why some people (like me) got stuck at nirvana becouse i find no "grunge" band with the same power, there are some punk bands that play aggressiv and fast but mostly the lyrics are not that deep ( i say not all !).
In the 90s in my part of the world, parents wanted the "heal" world, but there was nothing "healing" in this world ! We know about it without internet !
hey dont play the role to me that i speak for "everyone" while you do it in a very narcistic way. your cheap tricks might work with 12 year old fangirls. first you judge me to speak for "many" and then you do the same thing. but in a way that i should feel guilty about it. this is a very cheap trick for people who love to be "better" and give others a "guilt complex" ... please read some books about narcism and reflect yourself. (I don't know how to say it better in English, but you understand what I mean.
I can paint anyone in any corner I want, because I am a human being with free will and free thoughts. We can discuss everything, but I can already read from the words you choose that you are trying to be better than anyone. I am really going to stop now, because I do not see any sense in answering your things when you talk to me in such a rude way, as I said, we can discuss on an equal footing, but not the way you are doing it right now.
I tell people all the time, the 90's were great if you had a job. It was tough if you didn't.
@@profigeisterjager3933 - Saying that you are not an English speaker is not an excuse because there are such things as spell checkers and things that can and will help you with your English. Nevertheless, my English is terrible, and I am the very first to admit it. So regardless, let’s go and hopefully, I can understand what you are trying to say, and you the same.
That is true that you, just like anybody can only write and tell from your point of view in history. However, that doesn’t mean that you cannot, just like everybody, and I do mean everybody else, constantly learn, every single day, and get a better education for what they care about, or what the subject matter is, rather than what many do is try to bluff their way through things in which case to those who are educated on the subject matter is so easy to spot, thus the other person and or persons on the other end of the table are at an extreme disadvantage and then it is time to get up and leave and or humiliate that person or persons?
That is 100% false. Actually, it is incalculable that you can only tell the point of view for me as you state because you could have talked with others who were not teenagers, those who were older or younger, or those who were teenagers who listened to something completely different because there is always that. So why didn’t you seek that out? It is rather obvious and clear that you are only influenced by what is super heavily mega popular and commercial. It’s sad. Would you like a list of those that are and were especially for the time? If interested, have a look at another post posted by myself that gives you a list. Um no. Kiss and Alice Cooper never died. Why do you believe they ever did? Regardless, if you say like many that grunge killed glam rock or hair metal, it didn’t. It’s still around, stronger than ever, and went nowhere.
You’re right, nobody ever said music must be complex and have more than 3 chords. Here’s the point, be able to at the very least be able to play your music, at least be able to play the simplest twangs of all time in which case grunge, all of it could not without fumbling through it. It’s truly insulting to anybody who respects and cares about music. Here’s another even worse point, it teaches how to be, to not care, to fumble through your music, to not care about improving and getting better as a musician because if you did then you would morph into another genre other than grunge.
No. I don’t listen or care about ridiculous pop charts. What idiot looks at or cares about pop charts? Just because someone, anyone hits the pop charts, it does not in any possible way make the music better. I get it. You believe it does. So you believe that Justin Beiber and Katy Perry are better than Einsturzende Neubauten, Melt Banana, and Igorrr, right?
Um no. That’s why grunge failed and failed miserably was because of boredom. It was the same thing over and over and over again. Had there only been one Nirvana, and one Pearl Jam, perhaps the idiocy that was grunge may have survived. There was not. Thousands were popping up everywhere. People naturally get bored very quickly.
Who cares if more have heard of Nirvana than Joy Division? One thing that is for sure is Joy Division is much bigger, and it’s not even a close-call, influence.
Sorry. Nirvana were all grunge. Period. No debating that. Really? Nevermind was mixed like hell? Then how come Kurt was so bored with it that the mistakes were left in according to him?
You’re right Nevermind was never played like that live because they couldn’t do it. They were crappy musicians and didn’t care enough to do it because Kurt was bored and faking it according to him and didn’t care. This also means there was no passion. To do this in no possible way is art. It’s insulting to all music and teaches others how to be including you to be as cheap as possible, to not care, and to not try your best.
Food, a place to live, possibly a car, sure. Or a better bet, how’s it just to get a record contract?
Oh please. Don’t insult me. K? I’ve listened to probably at least 200,000 CDs, watched 100,000 videos, watched 10,000 films, etc.
Really? You are defending Kurt’s and others' drug habits? OK, we’re done. Bye.
Thank you for this citation of my book and TEDx talk about Kristen Pfaff. Thanks to John Robb (the first person to interview Nirvana) taking the book under his wing it is currently with his agent and we hope to have more news re publication soon. Grateful for your respectful, non sensationalist citation of Pfaff and for reaching out ahead of you publishing this via my TEDx talk, which I hope your reader's will find interesting. A most interesting, well researched and insightful podcast.
Hey, thank you for stopping by to comment! Much appreciated. I met John Robb many years ago when my old band supported his band, Goldblade in my home town. Looking forward to your book.
Also a 90's nostalgic. C.Cornell's fan here. RIP to them all 💜
He was incredible. What's your fave Soundgarden track or any of his other work?
Great video. Sad for sure, but it captures the era as I remember it 💔
Thank you!
Great documentary Lass 😍🤩😁💖🎶 I'll let you know when I am performing in England
Cheers chuck! 😁I live in Spain now, but I do head back there often.
This is a great video! Well done please keep making content like this - I love the Sims 4 effort haha
Thank you. I am so grateful for all the positive feedback. I wasn't expecting it to be so well received :)
The 90s were hard on my generation
I consider the story of The Melvins as a you bust your ass working and it will pay off band. I don't see Buzz and Dale's story as tragic. They have a great life. That's at least one positive from that era. I do truly think that The Gits could've been huge had that terrible night not happened. Mia Zapata was a PRESCENCE and her voice was naturally amazing. Even haunting in some songs. Shit I mean Joan Jett did an album for her and that's just god tier shit. Every time I see that clip of Mia's dad and how proud he is and how unselfish his comments were it truly hits the heart. Dude is a saint
Absolutely. I could equally write about the success stories of that era too. I guess, after Cornell, I just felt like talking about it all finally.
Yes so true, the Gits were great. To think how much Mia had to offer, and what she would be doing now, and not only with music, she was a wonderful and rare human. That clip of her dad gets me every time too. What a lovely man. Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to watch and comment kindly. Much appreciated 😊
It wasn't all tragedy. It was a huge positive of my life and I still have super positive nostalgia when I listen to it.
Absolutely. Same!
Hi. Thank You so much for Your fine dedication to these fab artists -- as well as their internal demons, fueled by depression, introspection, and drugs. YTou did an excellemnt job, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates this.
Thank you. I'm so pleased it came across exactly as intended. :)
You’re welcome 😬
Pretty good video I must say ❤
I like pearl jam
Yes ... watching the ending ... the glorious cadence. You did a wonderful job, My Good Friend. Thanks.
Squeeee! I do like that part. I think that is the best bit. Thanks :)
I just realised you said Glorious. I don't think anyone has ever described anything I did as glorious before, haha
Well ... Ya deserve it. Thanks for this informative doc done with affection + care.@@killsims
This is amazing.
Thank you Sully :)
I have to tell you that stone gossard and Andrew Wood were not in a band together before mother Love Bone Andrew Wood was in malfunction John gossers and give a man was in green river. I'm not sure if they left Green River or Green River broke up first but at the same time malfunctions split up and that's when Andrew would and stone gosserd started mother love bone
Thank you for correcting me. :)
Stp had the best chemistry if all 4 cylinders were on
Yeah, absolutely. Listening to many of those interviews with the DeLeo brothers gave me much more of an insight into how much they went through before finally having to let him go. I saw him perform once, he filled the entire space with his presence. Revisiting Purple though, I often forget how frickin' tight they were back then.
Layne Staley was supposed to be my future husband 😭 (as a love struck teen anyway) I still live him to this day❤️
Well done.
I wanted to go to sleep, and suddenly I'm sitting here at 2 a.m. watching your video all the way to the end. Amazing work, thank you.
Thank you 😊
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Thank you. A thoughtful look back at the musical revolution of my life.
sims is so ungrunge
I like stone temple pilots
Saw them!
STP is absolutely grunge. Fans define the genre, period. Which is exactly what happened with Korn. They didn't wanna be call "nu-metal" but guess what THEY ARE because we said they were. Proximity my ass. Ask any fucking grunge head on the street - STP is fucking GRUNGE. Leave it to an English person to pretend otherwise. 👍
@@InvertOtaku-os9lj stifle it you sniveling trifling trivial pursuer 🥺
@robert.m4676 My comment was not directed at you. Sorry you were offended by the truth. I probably could have been more polite, I just get a little hyper sometimes. I totally admit to ad hominem fallacy - I actually like most English people, and my above snide remark about her nationality was a mistake. She obviously seems intelligent and well versed in music, but to say STP isn't grunge is like saying Green Day isn't punk. It is. But, I apologize for getting nasty. Knee jerk reactions are my bane.
I freaking love Stone Temple Pilots. They were a phenomenal band. The DeLeo brothers are both fantastic musicians. And Scott Weiland was a superb singer/frontman. Critics are utterly clueless.
Hermione granger giving a full breakdown of the history of grunge? Subbed hard.
Seriously this is awesome. You've got serious talent
Overall, this scene was filled with out-of-this-world level of talent that gave us some of alternative rock's greatest all time musicians that were truly just giants, and some of my personal favorite pieces of music as well as THE voice of the soundtrack to the most difficult times of my life, the late great Layne Staley. The depth of loss and tragedy is truly immeasurable, and as you said, he truly is dearly, dearly missed by fans the world over even nearly 22 years since his untimely passing.
Ive recently uploaded a video discussing Jar of Flies and the impact it has had on me 30 years after its release, check it out.
Anyhow, again, great video, keep this up your channel will explode.
EDIT: I recently learned of Tina Bell and the Bam Bams, and how instrumental their influence was on the seattle sound, and how unfortunately, she also met an untimely and tragic death.
Hermione Granger? Bwahahaha. Ok, I'll take it. And thank you so much. Unfortunately I am not very prolific with writing and content creation as I have Type 1 Narcolepsy which tends to get in the way of big dreams. On the plus side though, I am stubborn as fuck and refuse to quit 😁🤘
@@killsims Wow, that is rough! I had a professor back in University who had Narcolepsy with cataplexy and would often get severe cataleptic episodes even during oral examination while he would be testing you on specimens in real-time; of course, he would be aware of everything going on around him all the time so you would be expected to just keep talking, answering the previously asked question, and absolutely no amount of praying that perhaps he might have missed a detail and would give you a pass would help lol. But he was truly inspiring, finishing medical school and becoming a tenured professor with the condition and all. Although I do not suffer from Narcolepsy, I can understand how it is to have to navigate through life and grapple with a chronic illness, as I suffer from severe fibromyalgia, ME/CFS and other rheumatic issues that have truly turned the difficulty notch on life to max at times, but like you, I do my best to keep going! Will be looking forward for more content!
@@SludgeMan90alas, I never even made it to the end of school 😂
Broo, your explanation is great
Fanx Broo 🤘😎🤘
True story: in 1991 I predicted Kurt Cobain’s death. I told to my friends and they told me I was crazy. Later in 1994, when they remember what I say they started calling me Nostradamus
Ahh, Nostra. Yes, he was an interesting chap. Good beard!
Good idea for a video but I only watched some of the beginning. I was born in 1966, so I was part of this generation. But I think that grunge's output wasn't that impressive. And just like with punk in the 70s. once the journalists and record companies and other blood sucking entities got involved, it became marketable and the look became a uniform that the sheep adopted, and the magazines exploited. There were bands like Daisy Chainsaw, who were so much more interesting than someone like L 7, who were just version 2.0 of Girlschool. I don't know about Seattle, but in Denver, none of it was a big deal and so many diverse bands were popular. Even Goth, which had been dormant for a couple of years came back and the bands did pretty well. And heroin was not the drug. MDA, or ecstasy, GHB and Special K were the drugs DuJour. Well, I've been going off too long. There is a lot more to say, but to end my rambling, I just wanted to let people know and reiterate that our generation was not just about grunge by any means. But this video is largely about Seattle and tragic drug use. Alice in Chains were probably the best grunge group and the baby doll dresses like Courtney Love wore were a fashion statement. The girl who took the phone calls and made sh*t up to f*ck with people, now that is generation X.
Absolutely! if I was going to talk about the 90s in general, The North West coast music scene would only have been a small part of it. Where I lived in the UK, heroin was not the drug, although I knew plenty of smackheads, it was the last thing you were ever going to do. It was the rave era. We were mostly on LSD, Speed and E's back then. I was never a big fan of L7. I did see Daisy Chainsaw though. Alice in Chains were fucking awesome for sure :) The bands I talked about in this aren't my favorite bands at all, apart from one or two of them. They were just relevant to what went on in that particular area.
i grew up in portland in the suburbs in the 90s and it was a great time to be a teenager! my fav bands wer pantera sepultura slayer faith no more mr bungle alice in chains soundgarden Metallica poison idea tool .. i also worked at tim kerr records an indie record label witch was pretty rad! my boss noticed i was smoking a joint and reprimanded me for not sharing lol i made up for it tho.lol i did the entire inventory in less than a week..i had to count and organize and record a half million cds! witch earned me a paid two week vacation!
grunge is eighties teens
I absolutely loved Sepultura during the Max era. Faith No More is still one of fave bands to this day, and AIC will always be in my top 5 :)
A side effect of benzodiazepines is depressed mood. Typically, a prescriber would be reluctant to prescribe benzodiazepines to someone with a past history of substance abuse or depression.
Indeed!
He had been sober for 15 year though, perhaps that influenced the decision? and surely there are other safer options for pain and sleep aid that aren't as habit forming?
damn you made a documentary with sims4? thats kind of nuts
I'm so glad someone else thinks that. It is definitely nuts, haha ... Check out my Serial Sims episodes too. About Historical serial killers. I'm just about to make a third one of those :)
Daft video mate...😅smh..
@@ProfessorKenneth Thank you Kenneth 😁
I know chains was from Seattle but they really were not part of the grunge scene they were in the metal scene it's a fact and s.t.p was probably the band most like chains not grunge ether I put those bands in a different category completely I just think of them as hard rock people have a problem with chains being that because of there Seattle roots but really they were hard rock there is interviews by Layne in 91 and 92 when he is saying chains is not grunge and never was and Mike star calling them straight metal chains came from bands like guns and Rosses kiss aerosmith Layne was a huge fan of pop metal its true same with s.t.p
I don't think anyone particularly liked the term "grunge" or referred to themselves as that. The title says "and the pacific west music scene" but if I only called it that, nobody would have watched it. The video is about drug addiction and mental illness within a particular community. Not so much about the specific genres. Thanks for the comment though :)
Although I don't give a sh** about the Sims, I'm an avid grunge lover (I was 16 in 1990) and I enjoyed your video very very much!
Hahaha I don't either really, I just use them to tell stories :) And thank you!
I was 24 and unfortunately in dah armee!
I'm an old b#stard too grunge is my era. Out of the the big 4 Alice in chains have always been my favourite with Nirvana a close 2nd then Soundgarden. I never really got into Pearl Jam, there's a few of their tunes I don't mind and I love the Album Mirrrorball they did with Neil young but there was always something about them that just didn't do it for me personally. I loved STP as well and the British band Bush who I always thought got a bit of a hard time from the press at the time.
Kurt Cobain playing guitar right-handed and with a Les Paul too lolololololol
A little room for imagination is required when working within the parameters of what game mods other people make. I don't make them.
@adrianmercado3092 You know he played an SG though right? Of course he preferred the Mustang but he did play a blue 1970s Gibson SG for a few gigs until he smashed it to pieces in 1990. Unfortunately you can’t choose to play left handed in Sims.
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Thanks. I will go check out the channel. :)
Oh great.......Grand Theft Auto: Seattle edition.
Not gonna lie, I would play that 🤣
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not real 😕due to comentator
I assure you I am quite real. lol
So depressing and dark...I curse one moment I spent buying listening to any of it! I wish I would of bought new lps by John Martyn Phil Collins Peter Hammill however I bought tons from the Band and other authentic acts...I found grunge lifeless 😅
I think there is room for all kinds of music in ones collection. There are so many genres from all the musical periods, and from every culture. Within every genre, even the stuff that doesn't necessarily speak to me, I find there is usually something I like. I can't lie though, I was always drawn to the darker stuff. If you've managed to dismiss hundreds of bands that spanned a decade and across not one but several different genres, based on what was mainstream, you've probably missed out on some incredible stuff along the way. It's not all dark! :)
Grunge is easily the worst genre of all time. Nirvana, the worst band of all time for anyone who cares about music and is passionate about it, clearly had no such thing. After all, how can anyone have a passion for something, anything, if as Kurt stated he was "bored and faking it"? Not only that but Nirvana plagiarized at least 6 times. One was a lawsuit. They were terrible musicians and clearly never cared to improve. The simplest of music to compose of all time, as well as to perform, and yet they fumbled through it. Now let's be honest here, the only reason why Nirvana is still in people's memories, though granted, that is failing and failing fast, is because Kurt committed suicide and for no other reason, not because the music was good, in which case it wasn't. If it was, grunge would have survived. So where is it? Pearl Jam, is the second worst band of all time, Eddie, well come on, if not the worst vocalist of all time, who is? With a stunning mumbling of a truly pathetic 5-note range, he has to hideously yelp beyond it. PJ has plagiarized at least twice. These handle borings have been together for how many years now, and they still have trouble playing quarter notes? Really? It is so easy to see why grunge failed, completely failed as quickly as it did, faster than disco if that is possible. It was phenomenally boring. Loud, soft, or soft, loud, and of course mixed in with utter incompetence in which case was so comically and absurdly easy to duplicate that this or that band from the lowest of low could and did take a dip in the scrap pile without having to do much of anything. It's simple. Grunge burnt itself out because it was the same thing over and over and let's say over again. When this happens the listeners turn their backs on whatever it is. So grunge died and rightly so. Yeah, the only ones, generally speaking, who are keeping grunge alive, are the critics, not the original audience and or a newer audience. Btw, who are rock critics?
The video is really about drugs and mental illness within the context of the Pacific North West music scene during that period in time. However, I do appreciate your opinion. :)
What bands do you like?
It didn't die
Our generation & us making music is very much around
lol
Your faves The Interrupters sound bland as Fvck
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Who pissed in your cereal? You sound super bitter. Also the people who are fans of all these bands aren't dinosaurs lmao. Most of them are only in their 40s and 50s and younger fans just discovering it are keeping the genre well alive.