San Diego's oldest gay bar turns 100

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
  • This year, the San Diego Pride Parade marks its 50th anniversary. It’s one of the largest and oldest Pride celebrations in the country. San Diego is also home to one of the oldest gay bars in the country and it's turning 100. KPBS reporter John Carroll takes us to The Hole in Point Loma.
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    #pridemonth #lgbtq #lgbtqhistory #sandiegohistory

Комментарии • 112

  • @fearsomebeard4290
    @fearsomebeard4290 2 месяца назад +23

    I adore The Hole! Congrats to The Hole for 100 years of fun, love, acceptance and understanding.

  • @rockyroad-hq7hz
    @rockyroad-hq7hz 2 месяца назад +19

    To forge your future, is to know your past. Let us remember the people and the places whose shoulders we stand on.

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 2 месяца назад

      on whose shoulders we stand. (sorry)

  • @allialias
    @allialias 2 месяца назад +27

    Happy to see inside the legendary speakeasy 👍. So beautiful. Thank you, thank you 😊.

    • @princegroove
      @princegroove 2 месяца назад

      Appropriate name, though. 😂

    • @nailartguy3363
      @nailartguy3363 2 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@princegroove😂 Quite appropriate, but at least it wasn’t intentional and is just a happy accident! As the video states, the original name was The 19th Hole in reference to the golf course across the street.

  • @davidserlin8097
    @davidserlin8097 2 месяца назад +51

    San Diego has a very distinguished LGBTQ history. People often don’t know about
    it because of how much space is taken up by histories of Los Angeles and San Francisco. But San Diego can hold its own. I love a man in uniform!

    • @elterrifico9522
      @elterrifico9522 2 месяца назад +4

      You misspelled ‘disgusting’

    • @davidserlin8097
      @davidserlin8097 2 месяца назад +14

      @@elterrifico9522nice manners for someone who identifies as “el terrifico.” Terrific at insulting millions of people whose lives have nothing to do with you?

    • @WhatCanSmith
      @WhatCanSmith 2 месяца назад

      @davidserlin8097
      Nothing to do with you...oh but let us brainwash an recruit the next generation

    • @robertconrad7269
      @robertconrad7269 2 месяца назад

      @@elterrifico9522 corrected spelling: El Terrifico

    • @elterrifico9522
      @elterrifico9522 2 месяца назад

      🤣🤮

  • @stevekluth9060
    @stevekluth9060 2 месяца назад +16

    While some bars may have been prohibited for being LGBT businesses, it was far more common for the USN to ban sailors from places for being a place where a sailor could contract an STD, code for a place where a sailor could easily find prostitutes. Still, let's give a cheer for The Hole for a century of business, most of which were as a queer-friendly establishment.

  • @genewest8426
    @genewest8426 2 месяца назад +19

    Congratulations! Live your life and be happy 😂

  • @Katnip452
    @Katnip452 2 месяца назад +3

    Ah, the Hole! Great memories. I was there at least one beer-bust every month, for years. Met a lot of fun people and had some wild times. I even worked there for a bit.
    Moved far away and miss those good old days, long gone. ✌🏼 💕

  • @abhiSDlive
    @abhiSDlive 2 месяца назад +2

    OMG I am the guy in the “obsessed” croptop!

  • @strafrag1
    @strafrag1 2 месяца назад +5

    Great story. Love your shirt, John. Congrats to The Hole.

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember going there back in the 90's when I lived in San Diego. It was a bit divey back then. Looks much better now.

  • @JerjerB
    @JerjerB 2 месяца назад

    Congratulations. 🎉🎉🎉 And let's hope for at least 100 💯 more years!

  • @jeffreyharkness8551
    @jeffreyharkness8551 2 месяца назад +4

    Thank you for sharing an important part of history for the gay community.

  • @bobbifergus3110
    @bobbifergus3110 2 месяца назад +1

    I've been there! ❤ So sad that The Flame closed down.

  • @calboy2
    @calboy2 2 месяца назад +6

    I first thought this would be about the Brass Rail

  • @davids1258
    @davids1258 2 месяца назад +5

    I remember WCPC!

    • @gingermoon88
      @gingermoon88 2 месяца назад

      YaY!!....Love WCPC!! 💜🎶

    • @JJ-in3bc
      @JJ-in3bc 2 месяца назад +1

      Haha! West Coast Production Company! Good times!! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @nightwind67
    @nightwind67 2 месяца назад +6

    I lived in SD for over 10 years and never heard of this bar.

    • @mpatt32
      @mpatt32 2 месяца назад

      They only stated having LGBTQ event this year , previously kinda had the gay bartenders softly removed and was on a pause and I didn’t feel welcome.

  • @slimtee2
    @slimtee2 2 месяца назад

    So interesting to come across this. My brother was in boot camp in San Diego in the mid 80s. We wanted a drink after his graduation ceremony so we went across the street to this bar. It was during the weekday, so no one was really there, but we kind of knew it was a gay bar. It was the way the bartender said “So, what do we have here?”, while staring at my brother. 😅

  • @luvzfrance24
    @luvzfrance24 2 месяца назад +5

    Congratulations to The Hole! San Francisco's oldest gay bar The Stud couldn't survive COVID 😢.

    • @Geezerelli
      @Geezerelli 2 месяца назад

      Too much kooties?

    • @RepentB4TooLate
      @RepentB4TooLate 2 месяца назад +1

      GOOD!!!!!!

    • @nailartguy3363
      @nailartguy3363 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Geezerelli The obsession is pathological at this point. Seeing the video, clicking on it, and leaving multiple comments takes a lot of energy and interest for someone who claims to be so opposed. Battling some deep seated, intrusive thoughts maybe? 🤣

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson 2 месяца назад +3

      The Stud is open in a new location (again) on Folsom. The previous locaton is being torn down to build a high rise.

  • @bobskiba7181
    @bobskiba7181 2 месяца назад +2

    So it was a speakeasy run by Navy wives in the '20s, but not a gay speakeasy. What's the earliest date it's documented as being a gay or gay-friendly bar?

  • @marryellenmonahan5585
    @marryellenmonahan5585 2 месяца назад

    That's amazing! Who knew? Now I do. Ty.❤😊

  • @Scuor2
    @Scuor2 2 месяца назад +11

    Glad bars still happening. Apps are so weird after a while gay or straight

    • @Geezerelli
      @Geezerelli 2 месяца назад

      @@Scuor2 Are they glad to be gay or gay to be glad?😃

    • @Scuor2
      @Scuor2 2 месяца назад

      @@Geezerelli are you a bot trying to understand human life?

  • @TommyChardonneret
    @TommyChardonneret 2 месяца назад +5

    Does anyone who has watched this video remember the "nameless" gay bar in San Diego that was in a commonplace appearing house in a working class residential neighborhood? It had no signage, no bright outside lighting, no parking lot, and no loud music that would bother their neighbors. My active duty naval officer longterm boyfriend took me there when we were visiting from Washington, DC, for him to attend seminars at Miramar Naval Air Station back in the 1980's. He was stationed at the Pentagon in DC serving in the Naval Corpsman Command. We stayed at Bachelor Officers Quarters where right after we checked in, my Lieutenant lover would immediately muss up both beds' linens to make sure the next morning's housekeepers would "think" that we were just two guys sleeping in two separate beds! Very weird, somewhat funny, but all too necessary in those closeted days, sad to say. But that bar I'm trying to find out more about was very much preferred by gay Marines and their fellow Navy gay guys. Any memories would sure be appreciated by me, now in my 70's and living up north in San Francisco!

    • @tonyprost5575
      @tonyprost5575 2 месяца назад +1

      whereabouts was it?

    • @TommyChardonneret
      @TommyChardonneret 2 месяца назад +2

      @@tonyprost5575 Sorry to say, Tony, that all of this occurred back in the late 1980's and into the early 1990's. At the age of 71 now, my (let's say, a bit less sharp) memory is somewhat faulty about those days. I haven't even visited San Diego since 1999. I've tried Google maps to guesstimate in which San Diego residential neighborhood it was, but so very much has changed about the density of housing, the expanded and upgraded remodeling, the changing economics of who now can even afford to live within the city of San Diego... That's largely why this particular video spurred me on to make this plea in these comments about this "gay bar" that was an authentic "designed-and-opened-to-be-a" gay bar. It had long been established before "The Hole" had just started to have an increase of gay guys and lesbians amidst its predominately straight clientele. And unlike "The Hole," the one to which I've been referring provided no food and did not allow folks to bring in any either. Thanks greatly for your interest, though!

    • @JJ-in3bc
      @JJ-in3bc 2 месяца назад

      Maybe you can contact the "historian" in this video... I'd bet he knows! Haha

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud 2 месяца назад +7

    It's called The Hole?

    • @pathhaven5961
      @pathhaven5961 2 месяца назад +2

      Too obvious, right?

    • @lovely-mk4rt
      @lovely-mk4rt 2 месяца назад +1

      Meaning the 19 th hole at a golf course. They gave the history of the name.

    • @pathhaven5961
      @pathhaven5961 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lovely-mk4rt We all know what it means

  • @arias6720
    @arias6720 2 месяца назад

    I ❤ San Diego, lived there for a year 2000-01. vote 💙🤙🏼

  • @lovely-mk4rt
    @lovely-mk4rt 2 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations 🌺 love from Hawai’i

  • @kylecourtney8660
    @kylecourtney8660 2 месяца назад +4

    Was a fun bar in the 70's and 80's a real man's bar.

  • @williamkane6155
    @williamkane6155 2 месяца назад +1

    LOve this!

  • @allermenchenaufder
    @allermenchenaufder 2 месяца назад

    Wonderful 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @princegroove
    @princegroove 2 месяца назад +5

    Not if Frumpy Don has his way.

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud 2 месяца назад

      He will give them a pass if they name a drink after him

    • @DiogenesOfCa
      @DiogenesOfCa 2 месяца назад +3

      @@KK-pm7ud Orange Russian?

  • @DavidLS1
    @DavidLS1 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember when it was still a speakeasy.

  • @TheSouthernMensch
    @TheSouthernMensch 2 месяца назад +5

    Happy Birthday old gay bar

  • @claytonjames4779
    @claytonjames4779 2 месяца назад

    I'm confused... around 2014 she had put this on the market and I thought it had sold?

    • @lostbydesign
      @lostbydesign 2 месяца назад +1

      No. The manager that took over for a while spread those rumors.

  • @Quipson
    @Quipson 2 месяца назад

    I doubt any bar turned into a "speakeasy" during prohibition to qualify being 100 years old.

  • @CountAxel
    @CountAxel 2 месяца назад

    How do they get the liberty station sign to levitate?

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 2 месяца назад +1

      Photoshop.

  • @admuniz
    @admuniz 2 месяца назад +1

    Sunday’s afternoon at the Hole! The good ole days!

  • @ShaunTuazon
    @ShaunTuazon 2 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @matthewfernando2825
    @matthewfernando2825 2 месяца назад

    Congratulations 🎉

  • @richardhowe898
    @richardhowe898 2 месяца назад

    San Diego gay bar scene got me through the 80 s. The hole is awesome

  • @alienboy1322
    @alienboy1322 2 месяца назад

    A gay bar named "The Hole"
    Hmm

  • @ICONICPARIS
    @ICONICPARIS 2 месяца назад

    I wanna go

  • @davidthaler7018
    @davidthaler7018 2 месяца назад +3

    Women? At The Hole? I move away for 17 years and this is what happens? :-)

    • @lostbydesign
      @lostbydesign 2 месяца назад

      Ironically, the night this was recorded was on a Thursday which is mostly a women's night. Every night is different-you have to look at the events calendar

  • @Geezerelli
    @Geezerelli 2 месяца назад

    Have each others back?😂

  • @flashflame4952
    @flashflame4952 2 месяца назад +1

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  • @harrybear193
    @harrybear193 2 месяца назад

    Kpbs commentator refer to trump as president trump this was this morning I not going to donate this made up my mind

  • @mpatt32
    @mpatt32 2 месяца назад

    Well now they want us back after pushing us out till last year , not my first pick as I feel this company jumps back on the band wagon for the money. They also now have LGBTQ events again is refreshing , But congrats for being open for 100 years in San Diego

  • @Owl-of-Minerva
    @Owl-of-Minerva 2 месяца назад +1

    Notice the pride flag doesnt have black in it

  • @Ricphil
    @Ricphil 2 месяца назад

    :)

  • @kevinholcomb292
    @kevinholcomb292 2 месяца назад +7

    So... it hasn't been a gay bar for 100-years, so that just makes it one of the oldest bars. Very misleading. 🤔

    • @missmolliepink
      @missmolliepink 2 месяца назад +5

      So interesting that it started as a safe place for women created by women for women. Glad it is still around and interesting how it evolved over the years.

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes. I would like to know when it began to be a gay bar. I really enjoy going to the Hole when visiting San Diego.

    • @The77trip
      @The77trip 2 месяца назад

      There was nothing misleading about this story. Go back and watch/listen to the story again carefully and then you’ll learn that it HAS been a gay bar for 100 years. That was the whole point of the report from KPBS. Very odd how you could watch this story and think it was misleading.

    • @MrMarkOlson
      @MrMarkOlson 2 месяца назад +1

      @@The77trip From the video: "1924 is as far back as we could find any records of its existence." "It was started by some Navy wives who were avid golfers and wanted a place of their own to hang out." That doesn't make it a gay bar. Later in the video, the historian, Art Smith, says determining a bar was gay in history is difficult so we have to rely on police raids, media expose's, and military bans. He then doesn't mention any records of those types relative to the Hole. It's very odd you think you saw any evidence mentioned.

  • @tyagi6575
    @tyagi6575 2 месяца назад +4

    When I was young gay bars were for gay men. We didn't have alphabet soup then.

    • @williamthomas4617
      @williamthomas4617 2 месяца назад +5

      Then you got old… now, it’s almost like you don’t exist 🤷‍♂️

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 2 месяца назад +4

      There were gay bars and there were lesbian bars. But you're right, no mixed bars.

    • @sinistercitizen3061
      @sinistercitizen3061 2 месяца назад +1

      @@williamthomas4617Ouch! ☠️

    • @chuckrussell-coons5866
      @chuckrussell-coons5866 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DavidLS1 Yes, one of the cool things I noticed in the video was how mixed this bar was. GREAT to see that. In my youth queer bars were all single sex only.

  • @RepentB4TooLate
    @RepentB4TooLate 2 месяца назад +3

    Hispanics 4 TRUMP 2024🇺🇸🇲🇽👊😎

  • @StephenShields-iv2ys
    @StephenShields-iv2ys 2 месяца назад

    Absolutely a horrible name for a gay bar. Very derogatory

  • @martyclement4010
    @martyclement4010 2 месяца назад +1

    Too bad it's not "Gay" anymore.

  • @Carl-x8y3c
    @Carl-x8y3c 2 месяца назад

    The hole , sounds like a dump.

  • @Geezerelli
    @Geezerelli 2 месяца назад

    Time to move to Poland.

    • @wordscapes5690
      @wordscapes5690 2 месяца назад

      @@Geezerelli bye! Don’t come back. 💋

  • @beachcomer007
    @beachcomer007 2 месяца назад +2

    who gives a crap?

  • @victoriamccullough6464
    @victoriamccullough6464 2 месяца назад +3

    who cares

    • @1gloomyDAY
      @1gloomyDAY 2 месяца назад +13

      You do. You're here.

    • @princegroove
      @princegroove 2 месяца назад +2

      Okay, bozo.

    • @frankthetank4101
      @frankthetank4101 2 месяца назад

      The hole 🕳 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Scuor2
      @Scuor2 2 месяца назад +9

      People watching this. In case you didn't there are videos for almost everybody. Why not find a video you like?

    • @utfarley7563
      @utfarley7563 2 месяца назад +4

      Clearly you don't. When I don't care about something I don't watch it.

  • @davidwright873
    @davidwright873 2 месяца назад

    Wow b8g deal. Im out

  • @nolver53
    @nolver53 2 месяца назад +2

    Disgusting

    • @toddkiehm
      @toddkiehm 2 месяца назад

      Snart, yet casual