The Canon G1X III review. Detailed, hands-on, not sponsored.
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- A detailed hands on review of the Canon G1X Mark III camera.
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I purchased both the rx100 v and canon g1x mark 3. I have to say I love this camera over the rx100 v. I returned the rx100 v and have been watching your guide video over and over again to understand how to use my canon camera. Best review/guide video on RUclips.
It's always nice to hear kind words - and to know that the information I've provided is useful and helpful. Thanks for commenting.
Two years later, the Canon G1 X MK III weather sealing, compact size, and image quality make it still an appealing option for adventure travel. Weather sealed MFT cameras and lenses are huge in comparison.
Always nice to hear from a photographer who's found his jam.
I've owned a second hand G1X Mark 3 for around six months after watching this really helpful review. I've had great fun with it and managed to get excellent results (stills only, not video). My friend opted for a Sony RX100 m7 because he wanted 4K video. Of the two, for still photography this wins hands down. It's bigger than the Sony but that makes it easier to hold and configure with its touch screen and slightly larger controls. For me, it's a really good camera around if you want a large sensor and yet still be compact. I'm grateful to Maarten for his review and also clear explanation of some features which baffled me reading the manual!
I appreciate the kind words, always nice to hear from a photographer who's enjoying their camera.
I agree. I also got mine second hand about 8 months ago because nothing on the market has trumped it. My only gripe is that it is not the most comfortable camera to put around you when you are hiking. For some reason the viewfinder really pokes into your gut… I’m guessing because of the poorly placed neck strap joints being on the front side of the camera. It’s a shame because had it had a rangefinder layout like the Leica cl it would be wearable. Maybe it works for others but I prefer not to feel stabbed by my equipment when I’m enjoying being outdoors
A couple of things drew me to the G1x I live in New Zealand and hike a lot, and while I have a lot of big, heavy cameras for going on a multi-day hike and capturing scenery I was drawn to a compact. On my last hike in Tongariro National Park - an alpine area where one hikes on live volcanoes, I took an EOS M5 and a G5X. I got caught in a major storm and walked for four hours in torrential rain and high winds. My camera bags didn't save my gear - I literally poured water out of both of them, despite the rain covers - for which I had purchased them specially.
The M5 recovered but the G5x lost its LCD display permanently. So I went looking for something with more weather resistance and have come to the G1X, which is ergonomically almost identical. I DO like the bigger sensor, but may well miss the greater zoom range, but since it is for landscapes more than anything else I am prepared to accept that. I do like that the camera takes the same batteries as the G5x, which I am ok to use with the viewfinder and the remote to camera features.
Thanks for sharing details of your exciting adventures. It's always nice to hear from a viewer with real-world experiences.
As Maarten's opening intro elegantly puts it, the G1X iii is an innovative compact camera without much respective compromises. Canon's bold move to fill in the still missing category of miniaturizing large sensor point & shoot is a brilliant answer to combat the convenience of smartphones and inconveniences of DSLRs, which in my opinion justifies its initial high MSRP, especially considering the cost of R&D and targeted niche market sale. As the camera is pretty much a unicorn, it's interesting to observe people's reactions expecting missing features from all other categories of cameras. However, if it's indeed possible for a compact point & shoot to have mic input, 4K & $2,000 optics attached, would people actually pay Leica price for a Canon?
I don't think I've ever been called "elegant" before! Thanks very much for the kind words. And your very positive note. However ,trying to recover the R&D with a high price, or indeed using R&D as justification for a high price is a practice that inevitably leads to failure. A product's price must reflect its relative value in the marketplace, otherwise it will be rejected by customers.
Thanks for your reply providing a practical thought.
Cameras are tools for creating arts. In some unique arts, the price is often driven by market demand, at times illogically evaluated into the stratosphere.
Although I don't see the G1X iii as a piece of art, it does cover a segment of the market no competitors have touched yet. Do you believe Canon's choice to release this type of innovation would inevitably lead to failure? I wonder if customers outside of the targeted niche would be interested in this camera if the price matched its relative value in the marketplace, especially up against 4K60 capable smart phones?
I believe this camera can be successful. I worried unnecessarily about the Sony RX1r, only to be reassured by multiple vendors that it would be a good seller.
The question is, as with all pricing decisions, did they leave money on the table - either by not pricing it high enough, ie the target buyer would happily spend more; or by pricing it too high, so that a lower price would have attracted a much larger audience at a lower margin but higher volume. Could have been a tough call in the marketing meeting.
One important feature to me is that the camera is weather resistant.
That can be a very important feature for many photographers.
A great camera for actually LEARNING photography, I'll bet:
- Small enough to actually bring with you even if you didn't plan on shooting.
- Zoom, so you can choose between focal lengths (this is up there with DOF for artistic expression, IMO).
- FULLY articulating screen, so you can shoot at creative angles - no matter the camera orientation - without having to debate whether a shot is worth laying in the dirt for.
- APS-C resolution allows for some cropping.
- Weather resistant.
It hits the spot.
Good summary, thanks for commenting.
You are the king of camera view keep up the good work very informative and creative one of the best channels on RUclips
How kind of you to say, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Hi Maarten
Apologies for this very late comment on the fantastic review you made years ago now, on the Canon G1X mk iii.
I have just bought one of these cameras 2nd hand (which made it affordable). After more than 2 years of patiently waiting to see if a mark iv version of this camera would appear, I finally lost patience and opted for the mark iii. My greatest regret of the mark iii, is the lack of a jack for an external microphone.
My question is:
So since technology has moved on quite a bit since the mark iii was launched, do you know if there Is any way of using an external microphone via bluetooth, or any other way?? I’d like to use the camera for vlogging, and am daunted by the extra editing work that will be required in order to sync audio to footage!!! Is there a possible work round that you can think of?
Many Thanks for reading this!!!
Thanks for your kind words. As one who's workflow includes dual audio recording, it's a simple task that can be automated in most modern NLEs. Don't be daunted!
I have the Sony RX100mkiii as my take everywhere camera, seriously thinking about getting this as its replacement.
Thanks, glad it was helpful.
Another excellent and to-the-point review!! Thanks much for time you put into these reviews, Maarten.
With kind regards,
T.
Phoenix, AZ USA
I'm always appreciative of your kind words, and it's always nice to have viewers recognize the time involved in preparing these videos - thank you.
It’s one of Canon’s most interesting cameras but I can’t quite fall in love with it either. Interesting review too. Thanks.
I appreciate your kind words, thanks for commenting.
Thanks to your advice Maarten (and also the fact that I bought it used for less than 500 euros), I am a happy new owner of this device! Looking forward to coming back here to say what I think (and personally, I don't need 4K video)
Great to hear! Thanks for taking the time.
Finally a more than decent review of a camera. Thanks!
Thanks! Always a pleasure to hear from a viewer who appreciates my work.
Honest review's are the best and your finish in saying you didn't fall in love with it.
I have watched many reviews of this camera and still find I am leaning toward the m50 or the Panasonic g7.
I appreciate the kind words. They're all good choices, but they all have trade-offs. I'm reviewing the M50 - that should be next week's post.
Very nice review. I have read that the lens is relatively soft. How does it compare with m50 (with kit lens) for picture taking? I do not find fixed lens cameras for comparison as they generally have one
inch sensors.
Well, yes, somewhat soft relative to a larger cameras with bigger sensors and better lenses.
Great review sir, thank you for sharing this. That camera seems to have a lot going for it. But the question is, for still pictures and photography use, what is going to get you the best over all image? This camera or the Sony RX100 V?
I'd have to give the edge here, simply because of the larger sensor. However, if you want 4K video (albeit limited), and some of Sony's other interesting features, it becomes a more complex decision.
Thank you answering. I'm subscribing to you. Really liking these high end point and shoots. They are becoming more and more like a mini DSLR's. Can't wait to what the future holds for these.
Yes, it's a very compelling category - with Sony and Panasonic also competing.
@@MaartenHeilbron what are the compact APS-C sensor camera equivalents in Sony and Panasonic?
@@dhilsiva Neither make a camera this small with an APS-C sensor.
Another beautiful video review thanks for posting :)
Always a pleasure to read your comments, thanks for your kind words.
Good review! I have had 2 models of an SX model PowerShot. I am ready for a new camera. I am sold on the lighter weight point and shoots but am getting mixed feelings on which way to go. This G1X III seems great and has features I have wanted, such as external shutter release port, more rapid continuous shooting, and higher pixel rate. But in 2 reviews, thus far, the video seems quite the selling point on this camera and I really am not into video but for personal family stuff and I don't do it much at all. Then I see the SX 70 whose digital zoom is amazing and macro shot distance is beyond reasonable, but have to sacrifice 4MP, panoramic pics and some really handy lighting features. Why can they not have all these features in one camera?
I'm sorry, I can't explain that.
Used to be a canon user, now using sony. But its nice to know Canon is "striking back"..may the force be with them. Wonder whats the counterpart in Sony and how it fair.
Thanks Maarten for the usual informative review.
Thank you for your kind words, always appreciated. The Sony equivalent (with a one inch sensor) is the RX100 series - ruclips.net/video/GcNa_eFTzkk/видео.html.
Shame of the lacking audio functions and of course 4k. But this is Canon and we are used to that right.
Still, looks pretty darn decent, capable little bugger. Can do more than the size suggests! Now the question is how the market reacts to it, if they deem it to expensive or just not good enough compared to the other options it won't be much of a success.
Still, it is quite small and you can't say that about certain other cameras out there.
Yes, always interesting to see how well a camera succeeds in the marketplace. However, there's often no way to tell. It's one advantage is size and the Canon brand. Sorry, it's two advantages are size, the Canon brand and the APS-C sensor.
Thanks for the great review. It seems to be a great camera at a competitive price.
Always my pleasure, thanks for the kind words. Not sure about the competitive price, but.
+Maarten Heilbron. Agreed APS-C point and shoot weather resistant cameras are few and far between. I should be a antique collector instead of a hiker. I also like the Olympus TG 5 but the tiny sensor not so much.
Yes, yes, yes.
I hope the next iteration will have 4K and then maybe it would become more compelling a camera.
That would certainly increase my level of interest - thanks for adding your thoughts, always nice to see your avatar in the comments.
SCD, Canon has not shown that they are willing to include useful features in their cameras. They have this stubborn resistance to include useful features for the target audience.In the M50 they added 4K and made the crop so tight and the autofocus so useful that might as well not have it. They do not want to compete with other models as the experts say, but the ones in the market for the professional $3K+ models, will not buy one of these mirrorlesses instead. If anything, they buy both for B roll and such. I just do not understand Canon i guess.
These are interesting comments for someone who does not understand Canon. Thanks for your thoughts.
Maarten, I shot Canon form D60 model in 2000 and divorced them after selling my 1Dx in 2014, I have kept an EOS M1 model for video, but that is about it.
Oh, so you do understand Canon? Now I'm confused.
No 4K still...? I wonder who are they catering to... Why they are limiting their sales and reach. This could be a perfect content creator camera. but no 4K and Mic input will be a no go for many. Although the sound through the mic was pretty decent on your vlog. Love your style of reviews. keep them coming.
Thank you for your kind words, I'm doing my best to keep up the weekly Thursday post schedule.
Although you and I may not see it that way, there are still many people who are not on board with 4K, and who make minimal use (if any) of video on their cameras. The lack of a mic input (with some pretty decent mics that connect to phones) isn't the problem it used to be. The audio on the mic was decent - but I did pick a quiet street, and one of the reasons to include that as a sample is the variation in the sound as you record - it's not like I was moving off-axis, so I really wondered what caused that.
Hi Maarten. Thank you for your very thorough review. I have to ask - which compact camera(s) did you fall in love with?
Generally, the Sony RX100 series.
I mean this as a civil comment and/or a relevant question; Why are you not doing professional voiceover work or narrations in commercials, movies or etc? You're a great speaker. Or, maybe you are doing this type of work on a professional level and I'm just unaware.
After thanking you for your kind words, please also accept thanks for the civil comment and reasonably relevant question. I've had many careers in video production, but I've never aspired to be a narrator. Unfortunately for a small RUclips channel there's no budget to hire a professional announcer, so I've had to both appear on camera and narrate - so while I appreciate your comments, I've no real interest in pursuing this as a career. Nice thought though, appreciated.
Haha, gotcha. Your voiceover work just reminded me of one of the guys on a travel show I’ve seen on PBS... Rick Steves, maybe? He’s good also. Anyway, I love your videos.
He is good! Thanks, I appreciate the comparison and the kind words.
They don’t make compact anymore in 2024. I never had the money to buy one back in 2016 and wish i did. They are well built
Sadly, no camera manufacturer feels the need to have a small portable one-inch sensor camera in their lineup any longer.
@@MaartenHeilbron except leica d lux 7 and 8
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Hi Maarten. Great review. I have both the G1X MI and MII. Despite the limitations of the MI, I have found the lens on this camera to be one of the sharpest in this category, certainly better than the MII. How did you find the lens performance of the G1X MIII?
Thanks for your kind words. You may be more discerning than me - I felt they were close to equivalent.
Nice small camera but seems a bit on the pricey side at least here in Canada...thanks for the informative review...;-)
I appreciate the kind words, thanks. You're right - a bit on the pricey side - and according to other viewers, not just in Canada.
This is a very good and detailed review. However, having watched it I wish you told us why you didn't fall in love with the camera in a bit more vocal way. I am also a bit surprised that no comparison was made with the other cameras e.g. 1 inch sensor ones where the use of bright lens (Canon G7X mk2 and Sony RX 100 mk5) provides similar quality to APS-C with much darker lens built in this model (apart from dynamic range that is). I always watch your reviews and appreciate the time you spend making them.
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. It's particularly appreciated when viewers recognize the work that's involved in these productions.
That's a good request - but what I was trying to convey was not an analysis but a feeling. I'm afraid my heart does not always have the ability to put its reasons into words. Daniel Kahneman (Thinking, Fast and Slow) explains this far better than I can.
Although I should do more comparisons, I would like to have each review stand on its own. Thanks for providing those comparative thoughts in your comment, as they provide good alternates to consider.
Thank you for your reply - this all makes perfect sense. I actually read the book you mentioned some time ago :) Again, I wanted to highlight how useful your reviews are and how much this channel is appreciated. Please keep up the good work.
That's very kind of you to say. I don't often feel that I do make perfect sense. I'll go my best to continue to meet your expectations.
Just one more point. The Sony a6300 with two lenses, kit and 50mm can also be bought for 999£. And that is a far better mirrorless option in my opinion.
Another interesting option to consider if you have that kind of money (what other kind of money is there, I wonder).
Maarten Heilbron I am talking about the same amount of money equal to the price of this camera. An average of 1000£ can get you many better options than this camera.
These are
Sony
A6000
A6300
Canon
200D
800D
77D
80D
M50
M5
Fuji
xt20
And many other mft which are not apsc but very capable such as Lumix gx85, G8, Olympus Pen F etc...
And others - Panasonic has some interesting options in this category also, of course, the M4/3.
Another detailed and interesting review. Thank you.
Always my pleasure, thanks for the kind words.
Anyone able to provide a diameter measurement of the base part of the lens that extends when camera is on?
I think the manual (I no longer have the camera) provides that information.
Fantastic video - A warm thank you from Paris
Glad you enjoyed it! A pleasure to read your kind words. We have many very happy memories of Paris and hope to get back there soon.
How abt low light performance???
As I said in the video - at 6400 low light images were grainy, but free of colour shift. Mushiness appears only at 25600. However, your expectations from a one inch sensor in a four year old camera should not be high.
It's an apsc no ? @@MaartenHeilbron
So it sort of begs the question - if I want something smaller and lighter than a dslr or mirrorless that will get me travel shots that I can print at 24 by 30, do you have another camera that could do a better job than the G1Xiii?
In the same price group, there are some nice Fuji cameras with interchangeable lenses that are only slightly larger.
If one thinks of it as an APS-C fixed lens camcorder and benchmark it against the likes of the DVX200, the G1X III is a compelling buy.
I have not had the opportunity to review the DVX200.
@@MaartenHeilbron You're not missing much, Maarten. Haha.
Understood. Thanks.
I wasn't expecting an APS-C sensor in that body.
No-one expects an APS-C sensor in this body. Canon's main weapon is surprise. (with apologies to Monty Python)
Great video and a interesting camera very much like my G5X
Thank you for your kind words, appreciated.
Thanks!
Thanks very much for your kind contribution, always gratefully appreciated.
Ph gpd. Ohave to ealn forward to type this..I jsut put mym feet up...uhhh. Ok. I'm always interested to see how the manual override of exposure looks with the movie mode. simple thing, but no one shows it. I'd like to know how to optimize the camera for various setting with video. I'd also like to known how the various film settings on the Fuji cameras, "Provia," etc., look in movie mode compared to Camera like this Canon.
Wasn't sure about your attempt at humour?
I'm sorry, but I will not be doing more videos about the G1X III, and while I appreciate that you might wish to have it be taken seriously as a video production tool, I prefer to concentrate on cameras that provide more support for video production than this one.
Hello Sir... I'm from India and love Streetphotography . Will you recommend this for this purpose in 2022 in that price range ?? Need to have your valuable guidance 🙏
Maybe. Also look at the Fujifilm X-E3 ruclips.net/video/cv0JUtt6g5E/видео.html
Soooooo sympathy and competent! Thank You!! -
It was a pleasure to read your kind words, thanks.
Can it also be considered as a product photography camera?
Of course. Which camera would possibly not qualify? However, this may depend on the specific needs of the client.
Thanks for the excellent review.
I would not hesitate to buy this camera had it been more reasonably priced.
In the UK where I live, it is for 1008£...around 1250 USD.
For the same price, you can buy the Canon 77D with kit lens and with the 10-18mm, or the 200D with kit, 10-18, 50mm 1.8 for 900£.
I bought, based on Maarten's recommendation, the Lumix Gx80 with three lenses (kit, 35-100, and 25mm) for 599£. I really thank you Maarten for the advice, excellent camera.
I don't understand this price. Yes it is apsc, but I would really hesitate to spend 1000 USD+ for a fixed lens camera. And like you, I am unimpressed.
Always nice to read your kind words, thanks. I agree - the price would certainly slow me down on my way to the camera store. And as you point out, there's lots of competition, even if they aren't quite as small as the G1Xm3.
Maarten Heilbron thank you actually.
The size is negligible since any camera with big sensor would not fit in a pocket anyway, I think.
And most casual shooters will stick to the kit lens, so I believe it would make sense considering a better, slightly bigger option.
Maarten Heilbron wouldn't you agree the a6300 is a better buy at this price?
Of course. You'd have to get a pancake lens to have any camera than an RX100 in your pocket.
I agree so much that I own one.
Excellent review
It was a pleasure to read your kind words, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Maarten, Which would you recommend for indoor photography and video, th g1xm3, lx100mk2, or the Fuji x100f? I prefer the 35mm focal length, and don’t mind digital zoom. Thanks for your response.
All could be good choices, I'd say pick the one that suits your wallet, your hand and your sense of style (or brand preference).
@@MaartenHeilbron Fuji feels the best and has a mic Jack, lumix has 4k, g1xm3 is weather proof, not sure why all these years aren't in a camera with a single mom lens and a big sensor. Fx300 has everything except the big sensor, hence the conundrum. Thank you for your response and videos.
Putting all the features you (or I) want in a single camera is a notion that has not yet occurred to the manufacturers. Based on those points, including 4K video, I'd suggest that the LX100M2 seems like your best option.
I am torn between the G5X Mark ii and the G1X Mark iii. My wife and I will simply use the camera for hiking, paddling, and images on our trips. Video is not of much interest. Having it is certainly nice, however I expected use of video will be minimal if at all. I am leaning toward the G5X Mark ii, but I would certainly appreciate your thoughts on our choice. MANY THANKS!!!
I'm sure that either is fine, the III would be a little better in some aspects.
Is one better for photos, and is one better to hold? Those might be the deciding factors since we expect all of these cameras to be impressive, overall.
I was in your shoes. Bought a G1x iii for the bugger sensor, weather sealing and a few other reasons. I must say, I would have like type c and 4k but hey... For the price/quality ratio I can't complain.
I have a dream: G1x Mk IV w. kit of 2 Lenses 24-70 f/2 + 70-200 f/2.8
Did you dream includes details about availability and price?
Audio sounded better with in built mics compared to when you switched to your clip mic.
That was my fault for burying the clip mic too deep in my scarf which partially muffled the sound. What the clip mic delivers is a closer perspective and a more consistent audio. I found the changes in tone on the internal mic to be somewhat distracting.
very well thank you my friend you have my subscrition
That's very kind of you, thanks for your kind words and your subscription.
I don’t understand why Canon never developed a minimalist touchscreen camera with all those features. I understand they were once the mainstream of compact digital cameras? I bet they would’ve had the budget and knowledge to make a smartphone as well… Panasonic had a go with their cm-1 and that fixed Leica lens was deadly…
Always hard to understand why their consumer research and focus groups failed to help them understand what we know untuitively. I think that's what happens when MBAs instead of passionate photographers run a company.
Hi! My apologies for commenting on such an old video but I can’t figure this out myself, hence my question. I’m looking to invest in a camera that can handle themepark photography, such as taking photos of moving rides and still having the images be as sharp as possible. I’m doubting between the Canon G5X Mark II and this one from the video. Which would be the better option? Thank you!
For your purposes you may find both to be sufficient. However, there are many newer camera that have better/faster autofocus, higher quality that the small sensor in these and better lenses. Look at the Fujifilm -S10: ruclips.net/video/wmomwFw5yWg/видео.html
@@MaartenHeilbron Thank you! Would you say the S10 is relatively easy to work with as a newcomer to “expensive” cameras like the S10?
@@lou-wn6dz Yes, it has many auto features to simplify the process.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thank you again! Just ordered it so I’m extremely excited, many thanks for pushing me towards the Fuji X-S10!
@@lou-wn6dz I'm always happy to help. Thanks for your kind words.
Great - *thank You* … ! -
Thanks for the kind words, always appreciated.
Does this camera style (apsc with fixed zooms lens small body) has a new version or similar one from another brand that could be newer ? Or how does it compares to newer point and shoot like sony rx100 series. Was this replaced by the canon m50 ? Thanks
I'm not sure - there has not been much action in this area of the market recently as everyone focusses (sorry) on full frame. No, the M50 did not supersede this model.
@@MaartenHeilbron this is so true, i started with a sonya6000 and quickly felt myself wanting more options for lenses that weren't available for the system natively (i didn't know about third parties, at that time i didn't even know youtube had great people like you doing reviews and tutorials), so i moved on to sony a7iii but its sometimes too big, i love handling on bigger camera and the image quality but sometimes none of that matters if i can't carry a big camera to a given adventure or have it ready quickly all day anytime for daily photos. So im like back to the drawing board lets say. Wanna do keep my a7iii but want to have a smaller option. thanks to your videos im looking into fujifilm as well but still undeceive.
@@Lucamitm I certainly appreciate how complicated the photography market has become. And how difficult it is for most of us to find products that please us.
@@MaartenHeilbron before I was focusing on having different lenses now I’m learning that maybe different bodies as options for the day is very important. Do you think this camera is still good enough compared to today point and shoots? Thanks
@@Lucamitm Yes, compared to P&S and phones.
Tooo Good Thank you
Always my pleasure, I appreciate your kind words.
How many hours of video footage can you get?
How much space is on your memory card? What setting are you planning to use?
Hi Maarten
Again, apologies for this Comment on the fantastic review you made here on the Canon G1X mk iii.
I have just bought one of these cameras 2nd hand (which made it affordable). After more than 2 years of patiently waiting to see if a mark iv version of this camera would appear, I finally lost patience and opted for the mark iii. My greatest regret of the mark iii, is the lack of a jack for an external microphone.
My question is:
So since technology has moved on quite a bit since the mark iii was launched, do you know if there Is any way of using an external microphone via bluetooth, or any other way?? I’d like to use the camera for vlogging, and am daunted by the extra editing work that will be required in order to sync audio to footage!!! Is there a possible work round that you can think of?
Many Thanks for reading this!!!
very useful!
Thanks, that's a comment I always enjoy reading.
When is the Mk IV planned? Thx
I'll check as soon as the goat entrail shipment arrives.
Maarten Heilbron Thx Marteen! Impressed by your reply on a 2yr old thread
Considering the Mk IV as a compact solution instead of relying on my iPhone
@@GallicGarlic What the shortcoming of the MIII that makes you want to wait? What other cameras have your considered? What are your specific needs for a camera?
Maarten Heilbron Maarten, expecting the Mk IV to be a Pocket 90 D with 32Mb APS-C with IBIS + 15-45mm f/1.8-3.5 lens
@@GallicGarlic Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Thank you for another interesting video which has given me pause for thought.
My reaction was first "more than £1000 for this!?".
And then that set me wondering why I thought that. I've yet to come up with a cogent answer. It seems a very well-featured camera, but seems very expensive for what it is. An XT20 is at least £200 cheaper and would seem a more attractive option to me.
How do we assess whether such a thing is value for money? I shall have to sleep on that.
Thanks for your kind words - I agree, it's kind of a pricey unit. There are several slightly larger cameras that might provide the same (or better (4K video (cough))) features.
Thank you Maarten, I was excited about the APSc and flip out screen, but Canon time and again disappoints with half-baked cameras with a slow aperture (i realize that physics of it has to work with the size), but lack of mic input is simply unacceptable. To top it off, the price tag makes this a no go for me as well.
What is funny is that Canon announced that they are going to own the mirrorless market in 2 short years in a press conference last month. Too little too late I'd say. They had a chance and missed it; the mountain created by competition is too high for them to climb and company culture and thinking takes more than just a press release to change. The proof in the pudding as they say. I am looking forward to another failed, crippled, and disappointing model from Canon (oh wait, they did release M50 already) again.
I think it's way too soon to count Canon out of the mirrorless or any other photo market. I wasn't disappointed, just not thrilled. As always, best to judge camera companies by their actions, not their words. Thanks for the chat, always nice to interact with my viewers.
The benefit of being in my position is that after one camera, I get to move onto the next.
Well, when you say not thrilled, I maybe am reading between the lines. You are very proper and very kind and hardly express strong negative feelings or derogatories.
Canon is a HUGE company and has every opportunity and every chance to dominate once again. The question I have is: are they willing to change their philosophy and market decisions to accomplish that?
As a consumer, it is exciting to observe, but I do not envy the decisionmakers of Canon. Thank you for the chat and am looking forward to your next post.
Well said. That's what makes creating videos for this channel so much fun I never know what's going to happen next. Between betting on the next technology, the next consumer trend and trying to outguess the competition is not anything I envy either.
I have a feeling Canon is about to crush the mirrorless market with the new EOS R. Have you seen the confirmed rumors on the lens line-up and some leaked specs? Looks like Canon has been hiding it all from us for a long time. Certainly looks more interesting so far than the Nikon offering.
I will hold my opinion until I've had the chance to use both, nothing useful can be gained from rumours, announcements or specifications.
Thanks for the review. My thoughts on the camera are:
The features are almost like a DSLR. Good!
And the price is like a DSLR. Not so good.
Especially considering the fact that I can't use my fast or long lenses on it, so the question is whether the small size is worth that huge disadvantage. Sizewise I divide cameras into only two categories: Those that'll easily slip into my pocket, and those that won't. This one looks just about small enough to fit the first category. (In fact it looks almost ridiculously little). Great!
But then there's the short zoom range. Bad!
Nah, not interested.
Always nice to have your kind words, and to see your avatar in the comments. Although it is small and easy to slip into a bag, I don't have a pocket big enough for the Mark III.
An APS-C sensor in a camera this size is admirable (I know, the Sony RX1 is smaller and is FF, but has a prime wide-angle lens, plus costs an arm and a leg!), but I wonder what makes Canon think a flimsy plastic externally retractable lens with a variable maximum aperture two full stops slower at max. zoom compared to the wide end warrants prosumer (or even, consumer) interest!?.
Otherwise, I quite like the camera: it's not as handsome as some Fuji or Panasonic models, including LX100 and the GX-series; its GX / GUI is no Mac OS X / macOS / Palm's now extinct, but beautiful webOS (at least, it isn't as insufferably visually hideous as Windows OS), its lens is a bit of a joke - and it appears to have a poor dynamic range and oversaturates the colours, but otherwise appears to be a really nice little camera with one significant advantage over, say, the Panasonic LX100 - its larger sensor (unfortunately, offset almost entirely by a crappy lens).
Thanks for adding your thoughts to the discussion. As others have also pointed out, there are lots of options in this space.
Maarten Heilbron Thank you, Maarten. 😊
I can't think one up: the Panasonic Lumix LX100 is a lovely little camera, but the sensor is too small for a fair comparison (plus, an update appears to be looming), same with the Leica rebadge; the Sonies shamelessly sport even smaller sensors; the Ricoh GR's 35mm lens focal distance, though useful, is still highly limiting... Same with the Fuji X100 -series (to add insult to injury, their built-bulking lenses are also insufferably soft, especially wide open).
Of course, all of these cameras are a quantum leap superior to Canon's PowerShot G-series with microscopic sensors, but overall none of them still quite cuts it. If only the Panasonic / Leica had a larger sensor and maybe a more robust lens construction with tactile manual feel... Or if the Ricoh came with interchangeable small primes ranging from wide angle (but low distortion!) to at least 200mm fast one that somehow defied the laws of physics and was small enough for daily take-along use...
More good thoughts, thanks.
Actually the Sony is much bigger:
camerasize.com/compact/#468,638,723,ha,t
I think the original post was regarding the size of the camera - "FF" means the sensor is the larger FullFrame size, as your link confirms.
slow lens, no 4k, no mic in...
welcome to Canon 2018
On the other hand, nicely small, 24Mp APS-C, full swivel screen, in-body ND ...
Wich is max aperture at 28mm and 35mm equivalent? Regards!
If by maximum you mean the widest aperture, that would be F2.8 at 24mm, slightly less as you zoom to 28mm and another slight reduction at 35mm. It's F5.6 fully zoomed at 72.
@@MaartenHeilbron yes I meant max wide aperture. And I know at 35 mm is slighty less then at 28mm but my intenction was know which actual value at 35mm to confront that with some competitor
I do not have that information, I no longer have this camera.
How would this compare against the G5X mark 1?
I haven't had the opportunity to try that model.