Should The Warriors Finally Break Up Core? | TICKET & THE TRUTH
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
- After four championships, and years of dominance in the league, does failing to make it out of the play in officially put an end to the Warriors dynasty? How do you think Golden State will move forward in the years to come?
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Instead of breaking up the core realize the fact that Klay isn’t a starter anymore and stop forcing him in that position 😭 how bout that
No bro Klay has to go if we want to get better plus Kerr is delusional he still think Klay is the same
@@tjones8778he was solid off the bench
How would they get better with Klay gone? They got no salary cap space to sign anyone else. They got no choice bro.
Also stop acting like Klay is a stretch 2/3 when he is a strict 2 and plays fine when he has that role. No more 3 and 4 guard rotations and play the good players 40 minutes, not cap everyone on the team at 35 for no reason, when that rule only applies to Steph.
He was dropping 20-30 off the bench. I actually feel bad for him that they tried to start him again and play him too many minutes when he was doing well off the bench
P talk way better on the game with kg then he do with skip
He doesn't have to stick to a narrative on here
@@BroCoolFirethey all have bosses on the network
Skip antagonizes for a living - these dudes just love basketball
Klay is going to retire as a warrior. He aint going anywhere
😂 he's gone..
💩
Agreed..he can't let it get any worst..0-10?..just take the HOF..
Hes going where the money is lmao
If he wants to do a 1 year deal at like $15M every year, Klay will retire a Warrior.
Paul got a point, if draymond wouldn have gotten suspended they make the playoffs easy
GSW was also 4-11 in games decided by 3 points or less, kept telling everyone this is a 60 win roster that Kerr got to underperform by not doing his job and playing 3 and 4 guard rotations, not playing anyone over 35 mpg even if it means losing, and keeping Draymond calm so he doesnt get suspended. Kerr gotta go.
Then why do they keep justifying that fools behavior?
Facts bro his game management was trash. We blew 6 20 point second half leads, and 11 double digit second half leads total. Playing steph like 32 min a night, sitting him from 5 mins in 3rd quarter until 8 mins left in 4th, he comes back cold and we play stupid ass 3 guard lineups with him, Paul and Podziemski. It was like Kerr was finding ways to lose these games.
KG is right. As a Dubs fan, it was tough watching Klay do an O fer especially since he's been my favorite player.
Klay needs to come off the bench at a reduce role and minutes or just leave and take the bag.
I would love to see the three of then ride off into the sunset...
Klay can live on 30 million and a reduced role. Iguodala set the precedent. CP3 tried it successfully and facts that if Draymond played 15 more games they probably get half of those and they’re planted in the middle of the playoffs.
What really hurt them is when Mike Brown left the bench. Brown took like 10 wins with him to Sacramento
Um, CP3 has zero rings. He didnt do anything successfully.
@415riderss CP3 is 38 almost 39 in the league AND he makes 30 million a season. He did everything right. If the warriors had won 3 more games we would be literally talking about them playing @ Denver tonight.
KG went from maxing Klay out one day to dumping Klay today.
Is about the moment… I don’t think Klay goes anywhere though.
My favourite basketball podcast 😅
Big ticket and the truth
They are in such a weird position now. How do they keep getting and growing young players, if they keep an expensive core?
The core is broken whether they are allon the same team or not . Klay is not max salary/all-star player anymore. He's more like a 10 to 15mill a year player .
we went to 6 finals and won 4 of them. we caught lightning a a bottle. this trio deserves to go out together and ride off into the sunset. i get the frustration but what this trio has achieved will be etched in history forever. you ride them out then you rebuild. the warriors will never draft a top ten player of ALL TIME in steph curry probably ever again. these players are generational. as a fan i want to see them retire at GS. they can suck for the next 3 years but heck it'll be worth it. they deserve it.
So here’s the thing. You contradicted yourself. You can’t say “let them ride it out” and than say “they prolly will never draft another guy like steph again” that doesn’t work. Having Steph still relatively in his prime is the exact reason why you can’t afford to waste his greatness anymore by trying to ride this out. Get what you can for klay and green and with that cap space opening up and whatever all be it small return for those 2 guys, youll be able to put something together that can at least have a little bit of hope. But this right now? No. It’s time. If you wanna do it like this than might as well trade curry because your wasting him
That’s the most selfish thing they could for Steph
How do you think that affects Stephs morale? Trading Dray and Klay like that. Klay just needs to accept less money, if he wants more you gotta let him walk. Steoh and dray can stay. They don't need a massive overhaul and they definitely want continuity.
We?
@@trev9168The warriors with Steph are never winning without draymond, you trade him it’s over
Steph Curry said u don't want to see us next year
😂 I'll be waiting for my homies in October. Steph said that same thing in 2021. Thanks for that. I didn't know he said that. Go Warriors!!💯💯
And we wont
All they need is a big and another wing... They lost like 15 games that were lost just at the end of the game. They got enough
Agreed! Dray missed 25 games on some stupid shit. We lost a bunch of clutch games. Should be closer to the clippers position and maybe amongst the upper 3. But we need an answer for Joker/Embiid/Giannis/Wemby. Dray can do good but he needs 2 bodies behind him to handle the next gen bigs. Klay off the bench. Kuminga stepping up. Wiggins gets moved for something valuable. Moody stepping up. Pods/Trayce.
The problem wasn't the warriors not having a big. It was Steve Kerr's decision to put Klay back in the starting 5 after seeing how good he was coming off the bench.
4-11 record in 3 point games, literally could have added 11 more wins if they got 1 more bucket....
@@samuelclark1677 Kerr's biggest problem was burying Kuminga and Moody on the depth chart so Pod and TJD could get exposed as rookies (Pod was brutal on defense other than the 35 charges he drew, again due to Kerr playing too many short players vs teams playing all 6'8" guys, Pod was routinely exposed in ways Kuminga and Moody cannot be). Kuminga and Moody will be stars in this league if Kerr lets them play 35+ MPG.
@@AGVME facts. That's why I said a big. Dray needs help with 5s so if he can play 4 and have someone to back him up... That's literally why they lost to the kings. They got killed on the offense glass
I can’t believe KG making a big deal out of Klay missing 10 shots, I guarantee if I look back at all his games he did the same at some point. Klay should remain with GS for at least 2-3 years coming off the bench like Paul said.
Steph 26 5 5 45% 41% 92%
Klay 18 3 2 42% 39% 93%
Dray 9 7 6 50% 40% 73%
With hopefully wiggs being better jk being better and the bigs improving, they need another scorer too and maybe they could contend.
Add another strong big to this mix & they have something.
Love the show but the audio needs to be compressed and balanced. It jumps up and down like crazy!
Thanks KG.👍🏿💯 Because that really was hard watching Klay miss those shots.
I hope Klay stays. You can always make another Dynasty. But you Cannot replace a Splash Brother.😐
Yep..
Its Time..‼️
That kings game should be the nail in the coffin. You literally saw everything . The vets didn’t preform at all really. And the young bucks like jonathon were the ones carrying the team throughout the game and even throughout the season (not really counting curry) taht should be what you build off. Curry and the young guys. They should’ve trusted it and traded klay and green years ago. Could’ve still been a contender rn
They just won it 2 years ago
@@Uhopbands97Right ? They knew what they had won championships and stuck with it, now every other fan is a GM coulda woulda shouldas. Even though I speak as someone who wanted the dynasty to end 😂
@@Uhopbands97 and what’s happened in those 2 years? Anything worth writing about? The fall from grace is always hard and fast. It happens with every single dynasty. That argument literally doesn’t matter given the context of where they are as a team right now. Bad contracts for players who clearly can’t produce at a championship level anymore.
@@Uhopbands97and they're two years older. They didn't develope the young talent Wiseman and Poole.
This season was defined by Kerr benching cold guys as soon as they got hot and playing Podz the most minutes on the team to stat lines closer to 0-0-0 than a triple double, which is what we need out of those minutes. Kerr kept playing Podz, Klay and GP2 at the 3 and they got cooked every single time, as those 3 guys are strict 2's.
Paul Pierce, you just dropped a dime. Put Klay on OKC, coming off the bench knocking down threes, I like how that sounds. He’s what they need anyway. Someone with championship pedigree.
Or they can trade Steph and Dramond for picks like the Celtics traded y’all
You guys have said this every year since 2019. Interesting how GSW got some nice trade chips in Podz, TJD, Moody, Wiggins, CP3 and GP2 and being how GSW is the cleanest route for Bron+Bronny to play together, we might see a match in a trade there. Also Giannis and Dame are going to request trades out of Milwaukee, as will KD...GSW has a whole bunch of draft picks they can trade too, GSW can get any of those big 4 and chip again and again.
KG is so right. Legacy P is crazy
Ima warriors fan he hitting 10 👌 next playoff game next seas
Paul sheds light criticism on draymond every since dray told him people dnt celebrate him like that--during a game whn paul was playing wth the Wizards or clippers.
Clippers*
You clearly missed The Truth on Draymonds podcast
4 players
Also Giannis, Dame and KD could all request trades and GSW has all the bullets to bring on another legend and boom its 2017-2019 all over again.
This has been the standard in 4 of the last 5 seasons.
Def agree with Paul’s take although I cannot stress enough how much Klay’s energy needs to shift and pick up in order to stay and play, even if he’s coming off the bench. He looks miserable every game 😑
3:00 i agree with pierce
I been saying it’s a wrap last year
Zach Lavine to the warriors? Or I’m tweaking?
I have to join the club 😎
These Guys are Biased. Of Course They want to see The Warriors Trio, stay together because, They were not allowed to “ Ride it Out “ with The Celtics.
Steph too me is a top 5 or 6 player of all time. But even i realize without draymond playmaking and klays ability to get hot i dont think curry can be as deadly. Even when klay is bad its STILL klay and if the warriors lose that they lose the best of steph and risk wearing him down. Klay needs to stay or its pointless
Kerr needs to stop playing small ball and go and sign a pf and a C for rebounds,rim protection and easy buckets.
Play Moody instead of Podziemski, play Kuminga 40 MPG and keep everyone except CP3 and we likely chip.
Kg never let Paul P live lol 😂😂
P sloppy
How they break it up in Boston??
It's over. Great run. No shame.
Im sorry but we new all year golden state team wasn't the best they just started winning and we said ok
Loosing DiVincenzo was a huge loss for them
They need 2 big guys and 1 wing.
As a fan I want this team to win another championship with Curry he’s the only one that can’t go anywhere, make the moves to win now. You’ll be wasting Curry’s time if you don’t win now eespecially cuz of how he is still elite in this game.
All these teams out here trying to contend for a championship. Warriors won 3 of them and been in the finals 5-6 times in less than 10 years. Why not let them ride off into the sunset? Unless ownership knows they’re doing Curry a favor by moving around the pieces or moving him then just leave it alone.
Trade Draymond get others maybe get Kaminga (hope I spelled his name right) or a solid vet to replace green
You don’t know shyt. Why trade green for a vet when he’s a vet 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I wouldn want to go there as a star. We see how they did kd . Talking about how they were this and rhat before him. I wouldnt go there especially while draymind ia there
But you can't assume Draymond won't get suspended any season lol
They need a legit big, and another wing that’s it
As long as dray is on that team there will be issues night night steph yall deserve it for enabling that actual dirtball dray
Coach Kerr played out?
Nah you have to be gangster like Aigne, pack up Steph, Klay, and Draymond to another team and fleeced them like he did with the Nets lol You may suffer for a year but the result will be another dynasty.
Klay need to just be a six man
We done with the 2010’s
Klay need to just come home.... the Lakers need a good gun... seriously tho thats all we missin right now
An 0-10 Shooting “ Gun “?
@heisenberg2966 aw man that was um um a cry for help ... yeah, yeah I goin wit that
Screw rebuilding....Get KD back...I'm sure he's fed up with losing...get another chip or two and then they should all retire.
no okc talk is insane they still talkin bout a washed golden state team smh
GSW fans will watch trash burn. The core aint goig anywhere i dont think, but its tough to say given the intagible walls theyve faced this season. Not to mention the advent of Draymond Green.
Klay to Washington? Orlando?
Paul doesn't know about the salary cap or something? Klay is making mvp type money, CP3 is making all star money... there's a reality where the league is trying to block everything the Warriors have done in the past too gain the advantage. They resigned Kerr, Draymond and Wiggins... so they're obviously moving forward with the core, unfortunately.
There's 1 hail merry trade left... Kuminga, CP3, Moody, Looney, many picks for Embidd (when he demands out this summer and 76ers rebuild). 76ers would have 100% cap space open and Maxey, Moody, Kuminga and a bunch of picks to build on.
Curry Podz
Klay GP2
Wiggins Santos
Draymond Garuba
Embidd TJD
Fill the holes with ring chasers... and it's on!
Bro you see Embiids injury history? Not worth it, and neither team wants that trwde anyway.
Wiggins, Podz, TJD, Looney, CP3, GP2 and all of our draft picks probably gets Giannis and maybe even Dame too.
Trade Wiggins period. Maybe even kuminga just because his IQ is low, but his ceiling is high. So, there’s some value in him. Also, get Looney off the roster.
P aint even watching the games!
Well duh
These guys won ONE CHAMPIONSHIP.
Yall stop hating on Golden state what about Boston Celtics dynasty ended 16 years ago Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett 1 ring Boston Celtics are the worst dynasty of all time Golden state warriors dynasty started in 2015 and only lost 2 Finals Series that Proves KG and Paul Pierce are Jealous 😅
Memphis grizzlies need Klay
How about kerr re inventing himself and develop the young kids and quit letting dray punk the organization.
Imma need the Grizz to sign him to a Vet Vince Carter deal. they need a Vet Locker ROLE MODEL
VC was still getting buckets tho that's the difference
So we're talking a 3 year, 12 million dollar deal like Vince got?
You don't think that if he was willing to take that deal, that the Warriors would have already locked him up? Cmon now lol
@@MyMiniMovieMagic Your room temperature iq forgot the Infatuation of modern contracts. I didn’t bring up the 12mill deal because it’s obvious to anyone with a brain that HES OBVIOUSLY GETTING MORE THEN 12 MILLION
@@johnnybraxton5539 😭 Klay did put up a nothing burger his last game. Thats true
@@im_organic_mojo Ahh yeah you're right, I didn't figure in the infatuation of current contracts!
So in today's market, what would that calcify to....obviously?
Reading these comments 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ the trades y’all saying make is stupid 😂😂😂😂
Klay should go to Dallas
Paul manspread is crazy.... too much thigh meat... distracting. where longer shorts LOL but Love KG style!
They don’t let lebron play it out
The Warriors gonna trade for KAT
They aren't winning again regardless so I say ride it out...
Trade Steph Klay and Draymond just like paul pierce KG and Ray Allen...full rebuild
Warriors should trade Wiggins he hasnt stepped up significantly at all since they won a chip. Warriors need to trade Wiggins for James Harden...the Clippers could use Wiggins off the bench and Harden can revitalize the Warriors in the starting lineup with Klay and Chris Paul coming off the bench to lead the others.
Harden isnt a fit here, CP3 wasnt a fit, Russ isnt a fit here and Embiid isnt a fit here, stop putting these chipless losers who stole MVPs from their rightful owner in Steph. KD and Giannis will likely be available, that's who we gotta target.
What people don’t get is that Klay is gone he thinks he deserves more than 24 mil and he most definitely doesn’t so he gone because he can get more elsewhere
Exactly, somebody will over pay for him.
Exactly. Thats why the warriors can’t sign him back
If Klay wants to sign 1 year deals every year for like, $15M, he will play for the Warriors as long as he wants. Does he want to do that? Who knows.....
Warriors are gonna pay him what he’s worth 15 mil or less, just like Gordon Hayward if a team comes out and offers him something like a 4y/100 I’m pretty sure he’ll accept that happily
Klay going to OKC gonna be fire FR
Here’s my thing…we know as presently constructed they’re going to be a bottom feeder, if they hang onto the current group we need to change our expectations, although the NBA and the media won’t stop focusing on the Warriors until Steph retires…it’s a shame because the NBA is doing itself a disservice by focusing on the old guard and not highlighting the young guns
The NBA never once admitted Steph was the face of the league while he was the hottest ticket in town, and was that all the way up to 2022, and might still be. You are doing a bigger disservice by trying to diminish Steph Curry.
Ugh if I’m not mistaken the Warriors have been one of the main teams that gets on national TV the most, as well as talked about insistently even when they’ve been bad…it’s actually an affront to Steph Curry by still elevating the Warriors as a great team this past year when they’re average at best…Steph deserves better from the Warriors, but he seems to be okay with how things have played out these past few years, I think that entire squad is simply content with the run they had and if they want to run it out together that’s great but let’s not elevate a team past their prime over the new super stars
Yes....break it up. Need newness
They played 3 guys under 21 regularly in the starting lineup and TJD was first year...ydkb
Get rid of Draymond and move on...
Bro moody is not nba player. He too small
Bro Podz is smaller than Moody. Moody plays NBA defense, Podz does rec league shit like only focus on drawing charges, which didnt work well for us this year as we lost 11 games by 3 points or less.
@@415riderss yeah neither should hit an nba court. Look at Denver… who they matching up with?
Steve kerr is overrated
Trade Draymond
Start Chris Paul, Curry, Klay, Wiggins, and bring in a Big Man like DeAndre Jordan, Javalle McGee, or Andre Drummond
Klay, Draymond and Wiggins needs to go.
LeBron and Bronny
NO MORE SPLASH 💦 BROTHERS STEPH AND KLAY CAN PART WAYS BUT STEPH CAN STILL