PCB Breakdown: Powercolor RX 480/470 Red Devil
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Ever wonder why Power color warned people to not use Furmark on the RX 480 Red Devil with the high power BIOS they released? Well here's why.
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I'm disappointed the big reviewers focus on comparing average fps even between models of the same GPU as if the fact the slightly higher clocked card gets 1fps more than the other one. THIS stuff is what really matters when choosing variants of the same GPU.
Yep that's pretty much why I don't do performance reviews. Comparing the FPS of differnt cards with the same GPU core is a waste of time. The other reason is that I don't play many games and I really don't want to have to worry about bench marking procedures and whatever else.
I value the build quality and potential longevity of a card quite highly, kind of wish i'd waited til I'd seen this PCB breakdown before I went with the red devil. I won't be doing hardcore overclocking, but like to be able to do a little. Do you think this card's lifespan would be significantly shorter than alternatives when being run as a regular gaming card on a small overclock?
all I know is I won't be overclocking this card at all.
Yea benchmarking all the models of the same card with a bit different clocks is just ridiculous. What matters is quality and cooling efficiency.
Artis, you can overclock it (in fact this card's cooler is very good), as he said just don't go too extreme. I'm using it at 1400Mhz @ +42mV, with +- 130W of power draw, with 2050Mhz on the memory (i know, very bad luck with memory). And its fine, completely stable in games and everything. So i think it's fine for an air overclock.
Great video, surprised since people were telling me that these things were the be all and end all of RX 480s. Your Computer Parts are only ever as good as the weakest link in the chain.
so this is a good or a bad critique? can't really figure out if u are positive on him or not :/
mine runs great couldnt ask for better specially after the bios update
So do you think worth buying it?
Papa Sears do you think worth buying it?
I agree with the mosfet being the worst, like it's not user friendly when they warn you not to run furmark, even though some games may actually run constant full load, then mosfet is fried. Like what kind of vbios would allow GPUs VRM to be destroyed? that's just plain stupidity. They did warn the user not to run it with furmark and high voltage or power vbios, like what's the point? mind as well put on a fire pit, while roasting marshmallows. One reason i never by AMD GPU cards again, I get AMD for CPU then NVIDIA for GPU. Planning on getting the Ryzen 7 1800X probably later this year until they fix the RAM compatibility issues.
I need to stop doing those dwub noises when I try to put emphasis on something. The mic hanging of my collar picks them up way more than I'd expect it to.
dont stop anything precious cinnamon roll
Do you use a pop filter?
Kombustor actually has MANY options! Whilst some of which are Furmark (but with a K instead of a furry O) - many seem to test in a totally different manner.
One of which almost looks like a MUCH smaller Firestrike loop, which is to say, it renders a landscape as well as some HEAVILY tesselated animated figures. I can confirm first hand that This Particular part of Kombustor does NOT cause nearly as much stress on the GPU, but IIRC it does put a heavier load on the memory controller.
hater's are gonna hate anywayz; u do u bro / keep up the good work!!!
Actually Hardcore Overclocking I really hope that content creators stop listening to people that complain about the tiniest "imperfections" in something like lighting or audio etc.... if people are such precious little snowflakes that they can't handle a pop or hiss once in a while, then perhaps they should ask for a refund from the fortune they had to spend to watch a free video with free information.... not saying that you're necessarily talking people like that into account here but i keep seeing cont. creators practically "apologizing" for LITERALLY the most minor things that a few years ago no one would've thought twice about... so I just hope your statement about audio quality wasn't based on complaints because personally I feel like you provide excellent content FOR FREE and hope that you continue to do so unlike so many others who release less and less videos under the guise of all of a sudden becoming a perfectionist and spending so much time on shit like lighting and viewing angles etc. that the number of videos drops substantially. So I'm sorry for the rant but I seriously get a little worried for a channel that I like when they start worrying about such things since it's not long after that you end up with boring corporate looking videos where how it looks and sounds is more important than what is said (example: practically all tech tubers over 200k ish). So in closing, after my caffeine filled hate rant, umm.... thanks???!!! 😀
Buy one and run Furmark on it just for giggles
That would be fun to see whether it actually fries with the BIOS update, tho I doubt unless it's really pushed. :3
I guess we won't know until s/o tries it.
i bought one even after watching this because it was on sale and i must say, i don't regret it at all. as soon as i got it out of the box and installed i put the unlocked bios on it and gave it a really slight overclock and its performing amazingly. i really can't beat the performance for 215$.
I never said it won't work for daily use.
Do a Sapphire Nitro+ PCB Breakdown please!
Can you do XFX GTR 480 / HIS Roaring next plz plz plz :D
So, what's leading guys like Gigabyte or Powercolor to go and release VRMs that are worse than AMD's reference design?
money
Cheaper components... cost saving.
They save a bit of money and for 99% of users it won't be a problem. it's still rated over 200 watts on the core.
How does the sapphire rx 480 nitro pcb components compares to the strix components?
Soon
Thx, that will help!
Please do the Nitro + 480!
please do
www.3dnews.ru/assets/external/illustrations/2016/08/02/937121/new_board_front.jpg
the PCB with good res
This is how reviews should be. You sir have earned my sub.
Well, I bought one hopefully it does not die. Good thing I don't do any overclocking.
So here is a list of how rx 480's compare to eachother
Powercolor:
-260$
-Good heatsink
-Good temps
-Silent
-Horrible PCB
-Cool backplate
-Bios switch
Gigabyte:
-270$
-Bad pcb
-Problems with heat dissipation (at least it looks like it)
-Plain backplate
-No bios switch
-RGB
ASUS: (Previously confused with MSI)
-300$
-Good PCB
-Good heatsink
-Good temps
-Silent
-RGB
Sapphire:
[JUST CONCLUSIONS TAKEN THE NITRO RX 460 VIDEO]
-260$
-Small heatsink
-Hot
-Noisy
-Good pcb
-Cool backplate
-Bios switch
-RGB
MSI:
-290$
-Same cooler as always, so it's probably good
-We need this one too #buildzoid
XFX:
-270$
-We need you to know more c:
+ correct me if i missed something on these cards
Edit: i thought you already looked the sapphire one. I confused it with the rx 460 on gamer nexus... my bad
Edit n2: will introduce prices to be more precise. Confused asus with msi, so i added this last one (we still don't have reviews)
from what I saw online the only good rx480 coolers right now is the MSI and the Nitro (ASUS seems to be decent)
+José Luís Lopes yes, i forgot msi. Btw theirs cooler is always great, and usually the pcb is quite good too. The nitro from what i have read so far is not a good cooler at all. most of the space is unused and the fins are few and spaced
EDIT. Just realized in the post i mispelled asus with msi. So i will correct it. The asus one is the crazy price with really good cooler.
msi has regular pcb slightly below refrence good enough eaven for ln2, also great cooling but no bios switch
ReactorFox3 Do you have a source? From the breakdowns I've seen MSI seems to have the highest quality PCB along with Asus.
actual hardware overcloking is my source
So... REALLY good cooler but not a very good PCB? But it is not going to affect a person that does not OC, right? For stock it is just fine?
Stock with Undervolting sutff could be fine
I own the red dragon 470 version. Thank God I've undervolt it since day 1. I believe somewhere around 960-980mV, and I leave at stock freqs. It runs cool all the way.
I love these PCB breakdowns! I feel that nobody on RUclips is doing anything like it. Do you take requests? I'd love to see you do a Zotac GTX 1060 AMP!
It`s 2019 today. These red devils still runs 24/7 without flaw. And msi`s burns out without breakers on supply rail with bbq on vrm. I think powercolor rx470 based on rx480 pcb is not bad at all....
Молекула 221 it’s objectively bad...
I remember raving about how awesome the ref VRMs were. It's like they were just as much better than expected as the red devils are lower than expected.
you just got a new subscriber.. great informative video mate..
Even my ancient HD7790 1GB has a 4+1 power phase with S4913s rated for a staggering 106A @ 25c (76A @ 85c). Kind of super overkill for a sub 100W card. I guess that's one reason AMD actually downgraded the VRM to 3+1 with the HD7790 re-release, dubbed the R7-260X, despite it running at higher frequencies (and possibly voltage).
I guess the monster VRM is the reason it's still alive and kicking after a decade of abuse.
on 1 of my red devil 470s u can see the tim on the gpu
almost 3mm inbetween cooler and chip
not just subpar pcb but subpar assembly process
i will say the vrms stay really cool compared to other cards
also are u a gpu miner? would changing the memory timing straps to lower tighter timings then OCing the mem 200Mhz but underclocking and undervolting the core have any harmful long term effects after looking at the pcb?
I was really serious about getting this card, but you completely changed my mind on it. Hoping you do reviews on MSI and Sapphires 480s
I get that Furmark is an unrealistically optimized burn-test but IMO any good card should be able to take it. I've run it on my EVGA770 as a hack space heater for fun for 20-30 minutes before, reference cooler, ~85C, no problems years later. This also with a modded bios and approximately 280 watts going into the card.
In retrospect I suppose that wasn't a wise choice. But it didn't die :)
the NTMFS4C1 and the MDU1514 have almost the same RDSon(~6mOhm) so they will generate about the same heat, You cant just use the current rating of the FETs to compare them
RDSon indicates the heat output of the FET. It does not indicate if that heat is properly taken care of. The problem is that if you keep the Tcase of the MDU1514 at 80C and feed it 50A the junction temperature will still be bellow Tjmax and therefore the MOSFET is fine. On the other hand 50A going through a 4C10N at 80C Tcase will cause a junction temperature exceeding Tjmax and the FET will die.
subbed, even though i don't know what you're saying.
Really liked your video, personal question if you had money and wanted to buy an RX 480, would you consider the power color red devil? Or is the pcb just too bad?P.s. answer taking into account it has to be an RX 480 8gb and the cheaper the better
Amazing that it still outperforms the Nitro+
Yeah , and it's very silent even at 70+ Celsius .
maybe later versions or a future revisions later down the line will give the RD some good mosfets on the highside , they know its an issue and PC has been one of the better AIB´s in the past (xfx and powercolor are among the best amd aib´s )
How is this the 480 pcb red devil the same as the 470 red devil pcbs. The 470 I have does not look like this. Why are they labeled the same. The 470s pcb is smaller.
Nope the PCBs are the same. The 480 red devil just has an aluminum extension at the end of the PCB to make it match the length of the cooler.
wow, this is the card i wanted to buy, thank you for making me aware of this even though i'm not a pro overclocker i won't buy this anymore.
Please HELP, I have an XFX RX 480 8GB and APW8713 on Display Rail is not generating POK so there is not EN on the PWM (NCP81022) so no Vcore. I measured resistance and everything seems to be OK, also All voltages are good but Vcore is not present. what can I do? all voltages on APW8713 (EN, VIN, VCC) are also present but still no POK, chip is not overheating. Should I just replace APW8713? or is something else I could try?? I dont have replacement
wellshit I'm using PowerColor VGA right now, it gets weird noise when runs game
Feeling better about buying evga gtx1060 sc 6GB card now, despite the hype of vulcan and the RX480.
Going by Jayz's video on the gigabyte card, at least this one doesn't seem to run as hot
It's cooler than Nitro+ and is very quiet . if not Overclock to much and not run stress test program.
What a Shame...
'Cause the Cooler is pretty badass imo.
Im searching for the schematics for this exact pcb, my 480 seemed fine, during a reboot the fans decided to stop working, i tried troubleshooting it but the next reboot the bios wasnt being read correctly by techz, then the 3rd it stop being detected completely. Odd how it slowly dies.
Could you take a look at the XFX RX480 GTR PCB?
I have that card with factory overclocked (black ed.), want to see its analysis too.
Yuttakon Yuttakonkit Me too. I have the normal GTR but it has the same PCB as the Black edition
from what I've seen its highly stable even with a decent overclock the voltage stays constant, the clocks don't budge, the temps don't go nuclear, so far the xfx gtr seems to be the best 480.
madmax2069 I can confirm this. My GTR runs at 1420Mhz and doesn't throttle.
My PowerColor does not turn on the fans, even reaching high temperatures, at 90º the board turns off and does not turn the fans at any time. Can you help me?
Hey Buildzoid, just clarifying, why do you put emphasis on the drain current for the high side FETs? Wouldn't it be more realistic to judge the FETs somewhere between the cont. drain current, and the rated pulse current, and of course focus on the cont. drain current for the low side FETs?
Probably missing something here, but thanks!
Most pulsed ratings assume an initial Tj of 25C at the start of the pulse which is not a thing in a running VRM. Tj in a running VRM is going to be somewhat above Tc and since Tc for most VRMs is around 80C which basically means that the pulsed rating is kinda useless. Continuous is certainly an overly safe rating to go by but I'd rather under estimate than over estimate how much current you can push. The low side FETs are important however they will at most be handling the same current as the high side. If the low and high side FETs are the same. The low side dies first. However most GPU have a high side that has about half the current capability of the low side and in those cases the high side typically dies first. So far the only GPU where the low and high sides were kinda similar was the Gigabyte RX 480 Windforce and even there it was 30A hi 50A low. I also adopted the focus on the high side fet current ratings after noticing that that's the rating that TiN(guy who designs the Epowers and I believe an engineer at EVGA) focuses on.
I actually want to try get a few "burner" cards where I will intentionally try to overload the VRM just to test how far of I am with my current predictions.
Burner cards for the RX 480 seems problematic for the near future. How about using older generation cards which are comparable in this regard? Odds are that someone has them lying around and is willing to sent them to you.
hey have you looked at the XFX dual fan version sold at best buy? I recently purchased it but if it's bad I can return it in place of something else
What a shame. I just bought this card. It runs cool and quiet at 1300. It only has a 2 year warranty. I'm seriously considering returning it.
I would if i were you... Strix, MSI or XFX GTR
SkrattZeRat I didn't want to spend $300 on a card. My budget is closer to $250. Even the Powercolor was a stretch. Looks like I'll have to wait for Black Friday sales.
paid 255 for my XFX GTR through Jet..the Strix was 264 also
your channel is really informative, and i love the information you have. I am just wondering, what is your background that you are able to make analysis like this? I am just curious because you seem very knowledgable
i guess i have one major question, in what use case scenario does the major flaws that you point out affect the powercolor rx480? I am very new to all this but was looking to try my hand at some overclocking when i saw some reviews that said it does well. but now i feel buyers remorse?
Such a shame you won't do MSI :( I'm going to buy a RX 480 and the exact model I choose will be highly influenced by your videos, since I find them more useful than reviews on other channels. Right now I'm thinking about MSI and ASUS models, since Sapphire has bad cooling and is off the board. Red Devil was on my list as well, but thanks to you it's no longer an option. Keep up the great work and maybe you'll somehow manage to find the data for the MSI card. Cheers!
I just got the Asus and its very good. Its always like 30-37% fans speed with near silent operations and temps are around 60-67C. Planning on crossfiring it too. Soonish.
I need to do some more research on the ASUS, since I've heard they did some funky shenanigans with their other AMD cards this gen, that limits them to some very low temps in order to make the card cooler, so that fans run quit, but all at the expense of the power of the card. This threw me off somewhat, but I think it's in the RX 470, not sure if they did the same in the RX 480.
Yea I saw TinyTomLogan video about that. Comparing it to the sapphire one. I tested my card yesterday, increased power target to 150% and no performance difference. I increased the power target to get a 1400mhz stable clock though otherwise the it will downclock itself, as the OC preset (110%) wasn't enough for 1400mhz. I could certainly push it further but I don't have much time to play with it currently and I will be crossfiring it pretty soon so there isn't much point in getting the max out of this one alone. I would recommend waiting for the XFX PCB breakdown too.
So, which aftermarket design you would recommend for RX 480?
Edit:
Forget it. I just watched your strix & G1 gaming videos, great explanation. Thanks :D
i bought the rx 470 red devil last year day before the refresh for 230 cdn,i mine/game
i run it at 1210C/2100Mem when mining eth and stock when i am gaming.so far np but i do have a box fan stuck on the side of my 750d case ,the 280X that with it pumps out the heat heh.
Still unsure what to buy. I am currently using a GTX 650 and its great. I would like to get a Radeon but i dont know why ! I was told they are quicker at mining data and calculation like for encoding videos. I was keen on getting the RX 460 then somebody told me dont waste my time, get the RX480 , i was looking and the RX470 seems to be well priced for me, but i am not sure if i am being bad by leaving Nvidia , then again i dont know what to buy.
so could you replace the high side mosfets with a different model?
Thank goodness I waited until this was on sale dirt cheap and didn't pay full price!!!
Hi, friend! Do u know if the Red Dragon dual fan model (RX 480 8gb) is much worse than this one in terms of pcb quality?
Just tought I'd thank you for this vid and for all other vids you create by pledging on your patreon page! Keep doing what you do! Best of luck to you
Damnit, I just bought this card. . . !!! I don't plan on overclocking it at all, Think I should return it to get a better card?
Perhaps a bad question, but could one ideally desolder the Mosfets and put better ones on? or do you think there would be power delivery issues elsewhere after that? because with some work Mosfets can be removed, however, generally the only time you would want to would be after one blows, which would mean your card is already toast.
Certainly doable in theory however I've never seen it done and I don't have the equipment to try it myself
Buildzoid, can you review the MSI RX470 Armor Graphic card PCB, you have my biggest thank you. :)
thank you. I cancelled my shipment just in time... Might go with the asus strix rog 480
I really like your videos. Keep doing them! Love it.
73 people went with this card who also watched this video =)
So if the 470 Red Devil uses a similar/identical VRM solution, I pretty much shouldn't worry about it on mine, right?
I haven't seen a need to even overclock it yet, but I doubt I'll even lean on it that hard if I do.
Thanks for these in-depth looks at the differences between these boards.
I recently got this card cause of the reviews and specs. Its a great card for gaming, I love it. But- It crashes to much. Once it hits 65C, it ends up crashing.
I like this component analysis. Subbed! Also, since I first saw Powercolor products many years ago I thought: "This screams cheap-ass crap!" Never ventured in buying any Powercolor product, but they seem to give the chinese manufacturers a even worse rep, even more considering they're a company from Taiwan!
Sapphire is from China and they make great cards. XFX is IIRC from Hong Kong and they also have a great card. MSI, ASUS and Giga are from Taiwan
Actually Hardcore Overclocking All of them chinese people and many of their manufacturing is made in mainland China. PowerColor always seemed subpar and worse then the general quality! I have a Sapphire Radeon HD 6790 as a main GPU, it's ok, but it has a few problems with "nVidia friendly games" like all ATI/AMD GPUs, so it's not really a Sapphire problem! XFX was great back in the 90's and I have no reason to really doubt their GPU quality nowadays. MSI was always a bit sketchy, so I don't touch it. I had issues with Gigabyte mobos'quality, but ASUS mobos are great, though I'm not sure about their GPUs.
greetings could you make an explanatory video of how to repair the fan lines my card does not work for the fans I have to connect them separately for them to work I would like to know which ones are responsible for making the fans work
@Buildzoid, Which version of the Red Devil is this? there is a Model: AXRX480 8GBD5-3DH/OC 8GB at 1330Mhzand a Model: AXRX480 8GBD5-3DHV2/OC 8GB, at 1290Mhz
man i need some help, i have a Gt 620 1gb OEM and i have a oc Core:was in 810mhz stock to 950mhz oc and the memory was in 700mhz stock and 950mhz oc i was geting 103C to 104C but it was running "fine" and now the clocks stuck is 270mhz and 450mghz i i cant move only restarting my sytem soo wath is wrong? the clocks or the gpu or hardware
You went from you must use a big ass heat-sink for the vrm to it's fine if you don't do any bios tweaking. Really confuses the viewers who don't know much and think the card is absolute shit for any OC which in reality it is fine.
So glad I watched this vid. I almost got on the "red devil 470 is the best value in the UK!" hype train
You're doing a 16 min Video and your only statement is, that the DC-current-rating of the high-side mosfets is lower? Maybe the card is bad and maybe it's because of the FETs, but just the dc-current raiting of these fets is not enough to say so.
Taking your figure of 34A at 80°C still gives you about 2500W of Power (since they are high side, so 12V). This is clealy NOT the bottleneck here. Maybe the FETs are still worse than the reference ones, but that lies deeper in the characteristics of these devices. If you want to make that point, you should present some switching characterics and go into details about the frequency, these chips are switched at. DC current alone is really not a big deal in switching applications.
One other things that directly comes to my mind when I see the PCB from a design point of view is that fact, that all the power has to run across the whole boards (from Power connector to the VRMs) creating a lot of heat and EMI, then the switching is done directly next to the signal lines and then current has to run back in the other direction to the GPU. This is just a bad layout straigt from the beginning.
nice video:)!!we need videos like this on every card in every generation in the future imo so we now what crap not to get:)!!
Where's the Bios located?
I saw board of newer cards and their parts layout is different, making me wonder what have changed, not seeing these FETs there, I plan to buy one soon and making me wonder if these models are still sketchy or they decided to fix it later on.
Can you not, like, buy some of the better MOSFETs and just replace them on a hot air bench or similar?
So, which manufacturer in general makes the best pcbs for their cards?
This depends and can not be generalized universally for a brand. Decisions about componentry are made when the product is being designed based on the intended financial return per pcb sold and the product/pricing trends of partnered semiconductor manufacturers.
ASUS and XFX for this model*RX480
Thanks for the video, was very informative. I was considering purchasing 2 of these cards for crossfire. Are you aware of any improvements they have made to the card and cooling issues? I've seen from other reviews it runs pretty high temps. I Do plan to run turbo, not any major OC. Thanks for any advice you can offer. Want to make an informed purchase. My second choice is the Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX. What's your thoughts on this card. Can't thank you enough.
Could you de soldier the old mosfet and mount a new one?
Hi.. can i ask.. my GPU card is Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB... do u know which GDDR chip that can cause the HDMI port display not working? and when i use DVI / Display port.. my display has the white line...
Hello I liked your video but I have a question. My rx 470 powercolor was used for mining, and there is a problem with the GPU. How can I debug the PCB with multimeter - anyguide will be apreciated. Ive wasted more than a week in a 40$ GPU its not about fixing it, its about the journey. Thank you very very much beforehand.
Looks like a football chart on a play and touch down lol
RED DEVILS were actually so so performers..
The MSI BLACK EDITIONS WERE HIGH END AND ASUS !!
Powerlimits and cooling on the RX 480s where struggling in general . RX 580 Fixed so much of that nonsense smh, 580 is what the 480 should have been in the first place. Idk if AMD was just trying to keep power usage down to look competitive with GTX 1060 or something? Idk.
can't run furmark on cards, hehe, whats next intel burn test and prime95 shoudln't be run on cpus, cause they actually use the cpu to its potential?
u mentioned furmark triggers internal safeties, so u dont use it anymore, for your testing, but am i missing anything here, or are the producers of the cards, never expecting u to somehow use the card on the level of furmark for other applications?
i just dont see the reason to this.
or did u mean, that for good cards it only happens for the insane overclocks, but for a standard proper card, i can run furmark, without issues to test it to its limits?
Hey guy please do the Nitro+ 480, Sapphire said its a binned card and i'd like to know just how good that PCB is since I want the best for when I slap a beefy aftermarket cooler on.
OK so I just saw you will be doing the Nitro+ video "soon".
ok, this was ultra in-depth! tnx for that, very interesting. how about analysing other cards. maybe from Nvidia? gtx 1070 perhaps? i think that'd be very popular video series.
different variants of the cards i mean.. people usually have trouble picking good one up in a sea of variants, especially if people intended to overclock...
I hope PowerColor watched the video. I had a choice on 2 super budget GPUs of the RX 460, GigaByte and PowerColor, then I remembered this video. I just dont trust Powercolor, especially in a very hot environment.
I have a power color reference RX 480 8GB... I've run furmark and never had any issues.
You deserve a million views easily
I use the Furmark with the new Bios, it starts to smell bad, so I Stoped! haha i will buy a second one for Crossfire, don't care about this issue, the price difference is worth it
I have one problem mi fan doest not work can you help me whit this problem?
Is the 580 red dragon any better?
I'm getting random black screens while gaming every few days with rx 480 red devil. Is it because of bad VRM?
black screens can be caused by so many things that it's hard to say.
Black screens were happening a lot more often with default Wattman settings. After undervolting to 1050 mV they only happen once every few days. I'll try a 1000 mV and see what happens.
Try uninstalling current drivers with DDU and installing the latest drivers again. If problems continue I would advise you to RMA it. That shouldn't happen.
Few days a go I did what you advised and so far so good. I wonder how drivers can fix what seams like a hardware issue.
Simple, Drivers were making your hardware malfunction.
Any ideas on how to help the vcore VRMs? maybe using the backplate from an accelero cooler with the stock cooler? Or themral adhesive some small headsinks on the rear side of the vrm?
Could the MOSFETs be replaced by people who own the unit? Are the through hole or soldered at the top?
wonder if swapping tbe crap fets out can fix the card to oc better or run cooler
Could you check out there latest release of the 580/590 card by powercolor that just came out? They just released newer versions of this card and am curious if they fixed all these issues... I really like the cards overall looks but I’m definitely curious if they fixed all these issues. Xfx has their “fat boy” version of the 590 that seems to have all this same shit on it. Same bios, everything which I definitely don’t want. Looks like the same exact design with the same exact mosfets, vcore, etc as the xfx 590 which is just an overclocked 480 really.
The powercolor cards are very attractive looking but if it doesn’t perform for me I definitely don’t want to waste my money on it...
i bought a powercolor r7 370. terrible idea it hold my system way back.
Can you guide me Which one should I buy? GTX or RX?
I suspect that an overclocked RX 480 can beat an overclocked GTX 1060 in performance. Out of the box he 1060 is going to be faster.
So this card is still bad running the standard Oc out the box??
no it's fine on the stock clocks.
Excellent thanks for the direct reply man much appreciated. In your opinion which is the best Radeon RX 470 to buy for gaming on the straight out the box gaming wise.
The powercolor Rx 470 red devil or the Asus stryx Rx 470 were my main 2 choices I had chosen so far..
this video was very informative...
i always recommended the red devil because of it's cooling system and price.
i wonder if i'm still gonna recommend it. cause it's seems like under normal load everything is ok?
Which is the best PCB for RX480? (I am willing to swap the coller),
Also, the 6 vs 8pin additional power? Whats your thoughts about that? Are there any downsides of the 6 pin?(i have seen both opnions as some claim that 6 pin is missing only the "sense" pins.)
Hi. Has there been any improvement on the RX 470 PCB for the PowerColor RX 570? The "Red Dragon" Model has a PCB even worse? ##Sorry for my bad english##
I saw in another comment that you will be doing a review on the nitro, but how does the xfx gtr compare to the other cards?
What are the thickness of the thermal pads? My power color red devil rx 570's core clock drops big time when ever I benchmark it, even if the fans are on or near 100% and the temp reading off wattman will sit around the 60-70 degrees Celsius. So that tells me that the card is getting hot in areas that don't have censors and therefor protecting it's self from over heating by dropping the core clock. It drops 20-30% in under a minute.
I want to re-apply the thermal paste and pads, but I don't want to tear it apart before I know the specs on the thermal pads.. anyone here able to tell me or direct me to a site that has this info??
Does this issue carry over to the 580 Red Devil?
One would believe they learned their lesson when reading "PowerColor teases upgraded VRM for upcoming RX 580 Red Devil"
Is it safe to put 160w through an rx 470 with identical vrm?
Damn, I always thought that Powercolor was a decent brand, considering how good my R9 270 is, but I guess they'll cheap out if they want.
excellent video!