with hindsight it really doesnt matter since they only need to win 2 games, expect TS vs GenG to try stuff out since its basically non bearing match except for points and they probably want to hide strats before single elims playoffs so their hardest game was vs GE and BLD on same week when they just changed their roster and with 2GE and Wild0reoo debuting not knowing if they'll translate in Tier1 and real games also them having 2 games in 1st week was kinda bad since on that patch Breeze was still in the pool while Haven not yet, which is very big for TS since they're bad on Breeze and really good on Haven
@@SplinxSyncs not literally but situationally TS cant get 2nd anyway since they 100% lose to tiebreakers vs Talon, RRQ and DRX (if im not mistaken) expect TS and GenG match this week to be them experimenting or trying out stuffs BECAUSE both teams definitely dont want to show strats for PLAYOFFS
I love to see the GenG vs Team Secret match. I want to know if TS really have a chance to play with the current top teams in pacific. Not too sure where they are exactly in the rankings, but I have high hopes with this team (oh no I'm believing, this is definitely gonna bite me soon) This is the first time I was actually impressed with Bleed even when they lost to GenG. They put up a really good fight. The amount of fake comebacks happening this year is crazy, but this one was a gold mine despite of that. We can FINALLY see the Jemkin vs something match after so long since the start of season (5 months???). Should be an interesting match. ZETA in terms of firepower should still clear GE and Bleed but as a team, they are really disappointing. When they played TS on Icebox 4 MONTHS AGO, you would think they would fix their calls... BUT NO! 0-13 on icebox last week was the final straw.
I believe TS has a chance to beat GENG based on how GENG is playing right now (almost lost to BLEED out of all teams) but who knows maybe TS will choke again 🤷♂️
as far as i know, nothing has been decided so far. previously in stage 1 playoffs when you look at vlr. they tell you which team will go which slot. but this time there's nothing in there. the same thing for liquipedia.
bro, i think TS is the G2 version of the pacific, so much similarity, they are not playing flashy valorant, they just play a good discipline valorant, they have fragging IGL, and the community underestimating them in their own region, i love if these two can meet up in champs, but my heart want RRQ to go...
No matter how much I love DFM, even games that they win, it feels like they’re the worse team. Not sure if it’s because of the calling or the overall firepower. It really feels like Meiy is the only top tier player on that team right now.
People always rate PRX high and they always show that they just can't finish. That's THE only consistent thing about the team. Betting on them is like betting the house on black.
Here's the deal: GenG is likely gonna sweep Stage 2 groups, 99%. What's more interesting, given their win in Shanghai Masters, there is a 99% chance for GenG to guarantee Champions by points, regardless of whatever happens in playoffs. (I believe there won't be championship points at stake for the Stage 2 playoffs.)
PRX is a monster in Pacific but terrible in international. Its a curse, the amount of expectation is too much, i think they become too confident that they swinging and dueling left and right when in Shanghai
Very good point, I will say though that Breeze was BY FAR GenG’s best map, so questions up in the air on their map pool till we see them on Abyss. PRX haven still looks historically not good, but they were playing a borderline troll comp.
Prx always had map pool trouble, the only best map pool for them actually last year champs which they had a chance to win against eg last year but they play 1st time comp that cost them a win
So with how the week played out for Pacific, TS is officially fucked as you or someone on PlatChat predicted. If they lose a single map to GenG in the last game they're guaranteed to play GenG again in the single elim. Other playoff teams are playing ZETA or DFM so we can say that they kinda get off easy in the last week.
That's a lot of recency bias when talking about a GOAT. To be a goat you need to be good for more than one year. Look at PRX, out of 10 internationals made they have finished top 4 in 7 of them.
@@jackalcrackle Nobody remembers teams for finishing top four. Not even if it’s every year. They remember teams for winning trophies. This applies to all sports not just Valorant. Check yourself on who’s biased.
@@traderjoe6454 for one, liking you own comment doesn't help emphasise the point or help when talking about bias. For two, when speaking of consistency, performing well is reflective of that. A comparison would be a team in a sport consistently finishing 3rd on the ladder (this being PRX, vs a team being consistently out of the top 8 but then one year winning the premiership, GenG). In the end, long-term consistency will determine the best team over a period of time. What I will say, is that there is no current Goat of pacific, as PRX would need to win a trophy to add the cherry on top, and GenG would need to show consistency for at least another 2 years. That being said, PRX are the best candidate so far given their long term consistent great performance.
@@jackalcrackle Where did you get your “fact” based opinion on show consistency of at least another “two” years? Why two? Consistently finishing “third” on the ladder? Why stop at third? There are “no” current Goats of the Pacific. Because it’s not your team? A trophy is a “cherry” on top. A trophy is only just a finishing touch? All your points are opinion based and carries no weight. Secondly, I like my own comment because I like my own comment; not to emphasize a point. You’re reading way too deeply into this if me liking my own comment bothers you as your first point of reference. Lift up an international trophy; declare you’re the best in the world. GenG is #1. If PRX wins a trophy, PRX will be #1. And I will be proud to say it as an Asian. It’s as simple as that.
you DRX criticism seems very unfair to them. They performed horribly yet still had 2 very close matches to a RRQ team that has an insanely high ceiling. That isn’t enough to rank them below RRQ
Bro you just know that prx was this good, even all pro player all team all people say they are good even better than geng, you are the pacific stage right why you don't know bro
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willchobra: "I finally admit that Paper Rex are the GOAT"
Also will: *picks RRQ over PRX*
????? 😂😂
Never thought I'd hear the words consistent and team secret in one breath. For the longest time they have been the embodiment of inconsistency. Lol
Secret has the best scheduling of all of these teams, GE and BLD in same week and giving couple of weeks to prep for T1 and GenG
with hindsight it really doesnt matter since they only need to win 2 games, expect TS vs GenG to try stuff out since its basically non bearing match except for points and they probably want to hide strats before single elims playoffs
so their hardest game was vs GE and BLD on same week when they just changed their roster and with 2GE and Wild0reoo debuting not knowing if they'll translate in Tier1 and real games
also them having 2 games in 1st week was kinda bad since on that patch Breeze was still in the pool while Haven not yet, which is very big for TS since they're bad on Breeze and really good on Haven
Aint no way ge and bleed (before geng) together both were harder than geng or t1 lol
@@SplinxSyncs not literally but situationally
TS cant get 2nd anyway since they 100% lose to tiebreakers vs Talon, RRQ and DRX (if im not mistaken)
expect TS and GenG match this week to be them experimenting or trying out stuffs BECAUSE both teams definitely dont want to show strats for PLAYOFFS
@@relykremok1225more like somewhere around 95%. GENG or TS can use 4 way tiebreaker rule to get in 2nd. But DRX would have to lose to DFM.
they aren't that good
secret underdog mindset now in SHAMBLES with the chobra pick 😭😭😭
TS need to be studied, choke when its matters the most
Pacific looking good right now
2 TOP team that really close gap and middle of pack that really competitive
@@tonyhart2744 Yaaaas
I love to see the GenG vs Team Secret match. I want to know if TS really have a chance to play with the current top teams in pacific. Not too sure where they are exactly in the rankings, but I have high hopes with this team (oh no I'm believing, this is definitely gonna bite me soon)
This is the first time I was actually impressed with Bleed even when they lost to GenG. They put up a really good fight. The amount of fake comebacks happening this year is crazy, but this one was a gold mine despite of that.
We can FINALLY see the Jemkin vs something match after so long since the start of season (5 months???). Should be an interesting match.
ZETA in terms of firepower should still clear GE and Bleed but as a team, they are really disappointing. When they played TS on Icebox 4 MONTHS AGO, you would think they would fix their calls... BUT NO! 0-13 on icebox last week was the final straw.
TS just giving enough hopium to crush our hearts since 2022
I believe TS has a chance to beat GENG based on how GENG is playing right now (almost lost to BLEED out of all teams) but who knows maybe TS will choke again 🤷♂️
Even DFM are better in terms of macro... Micro-wise, the Japanese still needs to coordinate high low and swings much tighter.
ts won!
@@comctrevor864 proud of them ❤️
How would seeding work in playoffs? Would #3 fight #6 then its #4 vs #5? (Either way secret loses single elim and ill cry)
as far as i know, nothing has been decided so far. previously in stage 1 playoffs when you look at vlr. they tell you which team will go which slot. but this time there's nothing in there. the same thing for liquipedia.
@@gragalakaisel1477in the VCT Stage 2 America's liquipedia there's a format in the playoffs bracket
i think 3,4,5 and 6 will fight it in single elims so whoever gets GenG on that single elims is kinda screwed
lol the upset of the week was ts winning against geng in such bomb fashion winning off a 9-3 curse comeback
i love willchobra
chillwobra clears
Team Secret living up to their power ranking???? am i dreaming??
we need the new rankinggg lesgo
bro, i think TS is the G2 version of the pacific, so much similarity, they are not playing flashy valorant, they just play a good discipline valorant, they have fragging IGL, and the community underestimating them in their own region, i love if these two can meet up in champs, but my heart want RRQ to go...
paper rex just hired a performance coach also this 1st of july
@@jepijep ah yes should have mentioned that as well! Ty!
No matter how much I love DFM, even games that they win, it feels like they’re the worse team. Not sure if it’s because of the calling or the overall firepower. It really feels like Meiy is the only top tier player on that team right now.
TS actually gives me legit anxiety when they play lmaoooo still fun to watch though
People always rate PRX high and they always show that they just can't finish. That's THE only consistent thing about the team. Betting on them is like betting the house on black.
True. When they're in group stage, they're real madrid. But in the finals, they're Arsenal 😂
Hey hey, they gonna win champions okay!!!! *Huffs copium*
@@demonkingofsalvation7519 It'd be cool if they do. I'm just being realistic though T^T
Here's the deal: GenG is likely gonna sweep Stage 2 groups, 99%. What's more interesting, given their win in Shanghai Masters, there is a 99% chance for GenG to guarantee Champions by points, regardless of whatever happens in playoffs. (I believe there won't be championship points at stake for the Stage 2 playoffs.)
PRX is a monster in Pacific but terrible in international. Its a curse, the amount of expectation is too much, i think they become too confident that they swinging and dueling left and right when in Shanghai
They have been to 10 internationals and made top 4 in 7 of them. Yes, they have not won the trophy yet, but this whole narrative is recency bias
Tbh PRX doubt is warranted. They've only won on icebox and sunset. Map pool is a huge question mark
Very good point, I will say though that Breeze was BY FAR GenG’s best map, so questions up in the air on their map pool till we see them on Abyss. PRX haven still looks historically not good, but they were playing a borderline troll comp.
yes. as my thinking prx problem is map pool. not discipline
Prx always had map pool trouble, the only best map pool for them actually last year champs which they had a chance to win against eg last year but they play 1st time comp that cost them a win
waiting for the new rankings
I like ur pickems this week
So TS BEAT GENG WHAT NOW
can we call the 8-11 spot the Japanese sandwich?
So with how the week played out for Pacific, TS is officially fucked as you or someone on PlatChat predicted. If they lose a single map to GenG in the last game they're guaranteed to play GenG again in the single elim. Other playoff teams are playing ZETA or DFM so we can say that they kinda get off easy in the last week.
Welp, turns out Secret had more to show.
@@solaris218 they sure did
SECRET JINX NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GenG will always be the GOATS. Let’s talk about PRX after they bring home the trophy but until then GenG #1
@@traderjoe6454 🤣
That's a lot of recency bias when talking about a GOAT. To be a goat you need to be good for more than one year. Look at PRX, out of 10 internationals made they have finished top 4 in 7 of them.
@@jackalcrackle Nobody remembers teams for finishing top four. Not even if it’s every year. They remember teams for winning trophies. This applies to all sports not just Valorant. Check yourself on who’s biased.
@@traderjoe6454 for one, liking you own comment doesn't help emphasise the point or help when talking about bias. For two, when speaking of consistency, performing well is reflective of that. A comparison would be a team in a sport consistently finishing 3rd on the ladder (this being PRX, vs a team being consistently out of the top 8 but then one year winning the premiership, GenG). In the end, long-term consistency will determine the best team over a period of time.
What I will say, is that there is no current Goat of pacific, as PRX would need to win a trophy to add the cherry on top, and GenG would need to show consistency for at least another 2 years. That being said, PRX are the best candidate so far given their long term consistent great performance.
@@jackalcrackle Where did you get your “fact” based opinion on show consistency of at least another “two” years? Why two? Consistently finishing “third” on the ladder? Why stop at third? There are “no” current Goats of the Pacific. Because it’s not your team? A trophy is a “cherry” on top. A trophy is only just a finishing touch? All your points are opinion based and carries no weight. Secondly, I like my own comment because I like my own comment; not to emphasize a point. You’re reading way too deeply into this if me liking my own comment bothers you as your first point of reference. Lift up an international trophy; declare you’re the best in the world. GenG is #1. If PRX wins a trophy, PRX will be #1. And I will be proud to say it as an Asian. It’s as simple as that.
you DRX criticism seems very unfair to them. They performed horribly yet still had 2 very close matches to a RRQ team that has an insanely high ceiling. That isn’t enough to rank them below RRQ
Secret gets picked its over
Well PRX VS RRQ didn't aged well
but the tskibidi and gengyatt did
I think you are putting secret way too high and talon way too low
same as rrq they're way too high all firepower and not much depth in terms of macro compared to drx or talon
🤷♂️
For RRQ to get top 2. RRQ needs to beat PRX and DRX has to lose to dfm
Bro you just know that prx was this good, even all pro player all team all people say they are good even better than geng, you are the pacific stage right why you don't know bro
Don’t put prx in first, remember what happened in shanghai
you noob? this rankings is for APAC stage 2 not shanghai. Move on already. PRX is much much better now
@@rom9696u dont know what he mean?
@@rom9696he meant that chobra should avoid jinxing PRX
@@rom9696 the moment you believe in prx is when they start throwing
Please know that Gen.G is an asshole.