That sulfer smell could be a sign of hydrogen sulfide. Hopefully y'all use detectors in the future when you encounter the smell. I hardly know you, but I'd like to see you fellers stay among the living.
These guys have been pretty lucky for how lax they are with some basic safety measures and risk taking and going into most caves with little knowledge on what to expect. Also what are they thinking going into a sealed government site? Best case they're treading on an area that has a reason to be preserved for cultural significance or future research. Worst case the cave is sealed because it known to have a variety of different ways caves can be too dangerous, like instability or unbreathable air either from dust or the air itself. Also them recording themselves acknowledging there's a "No Trespassing" sign and going in anyways is also a great idea.
The sulfur smell is exactly what it smells like, sulfur. There is coal around the ground water, the coal contains surfer it leaches out into the ground water many wells and springs have this issue it’s common.
Gas detectors are a must in an environment like this - I recently did confined spaces training and it's scary how easily you can succumb to a lack of oxygen or noxious gases without even realising the danger.
TN has some hot caves, from leaking dump sites, remember places like Oakridge area 50-100miles radius and 'the Bomb' development, and some leaking dumps in Eastern TN too over karst! If thinking about a gas detector don't forget about a bump tester fir it to, so you know it is actually working, but the cost is a lot for just a cavers, and maybe a Giger counter for a few caves I've heard about that are actually radioactive 'hot'. Sorry I don't have specific cave names or locations to share. Just that there are a few 'hot' caves, more than just radon because of leaking dump sites. Glade you left the possible arrow head. I hope you let the archeologist know about it and sent them the pictures, and the location. The value of some things can not be only measured in money. Knowledge and history do have value on there own, even if not everyone thinks it's valuable unless money is involved. Simple taking it word mean it's non-monetary value would be lost. And some places the law is written that you need to not take it, helping to keep sites from being plundered hopefully. Thanks for sharing in your exploration. Looks like a cave to me. The brick wall and federal signs and smell do make me wonder...
@heathercaltagirone4563 eh i thought the tracks were recent in the mud, not fossilized in stone... i doubt someone is out there in modern times throwing spears at animals...
@@frankmacleod2565 I think it might be "pre-form" not heat treated so it might be in the 8000-10,000 years old, would have been in that ice age sediment. look for mastodon or mammoth bones.
@@65ramblerman how could you tell it wasn't heat treated? I've heat treated chert myself and diagnose heat treatment on artifacts at work, and couldn't tell this was heat treated. Also the term pre-form just means it was like a blank, prior to finer shaping into a finished tool. Preforms aren't limited to the mammoth hunting era, all finished flaked stone tools are preforms at some stage of their development
@@frankmacleod2565 My understanding from ---as he considered himself the one to know (he wrote several books) that a pre-form did not mean it was not finished, it related to an era as well (he was rather condescending to me until he realized i was not a student). As I was told at the University heat treatment will turn the chert hues of pink to brown. other stone that flaked well might not be heat treated in younger eras. Heat treating before knaping will make for sharper edges and thinner form. But it's always good to check with a local university to know who was in the area and when.
The WPA on that sign means Works Progress Administration, created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1935. The aim was to provide jobs and infrastructure during the Great Depression. The WPA undertook a wide range of projects, from building roads and public buildings to mining. The WPA likely sealed this mine to protect public safety from the dangers of toxic gases and an unstable structure.
One of the primary purposes of the WPA& CCC was to destroy and obfuscate history. It’s THE primary purpose of the Smithsonian. Dept. of Interior and Army Corps of Engineers have played there part as well into the modern era.
Was going to say the same things the white could also be calcium or lime the red is definitely Iron abs they said the water smelled bad I would say it had a lot of Sulphur in it which would be the yellowish coloring the water will smell of rotten eggs or what we called as kids farm water lol.. im from Florida the well water in Florida has a lot of Sulphur smells terrible well need to go very deep into the ground to get away from the Sulphur. We had 2 well on out farm in Florida one was a artesian well and the other was a pump well the pump well was Sulphur which was ran into the house had to get so many water system ans it still was Sulphur smelling but out artesian well was so deep it did not smell of Sulphur which we end up using it to the house and drinking water for the cattle and horses. But the pump well water terrible smelling and it left lime calcium Sulphur and iron stains on everything.
You guys need to cary an air quality sensor. They're only a couple of hundred bucks and it might save your life. Maybe a subscriber can hook you up with one?
there's SO MUCH MORE they should be doing with these trips... they should have EVERY METER AVAILABLE simply for the purpose of being thorough and educating the public on the conditions in these places... with 730,000 SUBS REVENUE, they don't need handouts... they need to MATURE and reinvest in this BUSINESS like responsible grownups... they even "FORGET" basic things like in this video he "FORGOT" his bright headlamp... HOW DO YOU FORGET one of the most basic but important tools of the trade you're most proud of???? it's frustrating to say the least.
I spent years underground and scaling walls and backs (Roof) was done everyday. Mines are constantly caving in as the rocks expand and the crushing weight does it's thing. The slabs above you can be pried down with the slightest bit of leverage. You can even do it by hand and it's impossible to tell if one will bring the rest down. Sometimes, you can't see if one is about to fall until you walk under it to the other side of it. It's the walking under it that freaks me out and I would even be afraid to raise my voice in there. Interesting video, thanks.
Caves are really dangerous. That sulfur odor is likely H2S gas which can kill you. There is a reason they would take birds into the mine. If the bird died, then you knew to get out of there.
@@homie-gtv322 yeah they also tried it with 90 meters long sandworm that can Engulf you in seconds.. if it dies it means you found minecraft netherite cause it bonked the sandworm into his forehead or mouth or whatever
I used to work in a coal mine. What you are seeing are ammonite fossils. Also when you are hack in those old mines you need to be careful of dead air which is low oxygenated air. It can kill very rapidly. Also the walls were not natural those were rockfalls. The sound was shifting rock… used to call it tommyknockers. You hear that get out. Risk of rockfalls follows that sound.
Yeah, about 2 minutes before they say they don’t think it’s a coal mine, I was thinking exactly that. Because there are no coal seams, no equipment left behind. It’s just a very dangerous cave where the roof could collapse in on you.
The WPA was disbanded years ago, but their records are somewhere. If you care to research this place, call your Representative in the House and ask them to help you locate the records about this mine. Or ask a local librarian. They love to do research.
It’s absolutely crazy to go in with no gas detector and being that loud in a unknown cave with cracked slabs of rock on the roof they could come down very easy
@@R3TR0R4V3 I think the difference here is there are many large horizonal ones above their head carrying a lot of weight and in some areas prying off. Many of the caves they go in have a more natural looking cylindrical shape that seems like it'd be a lot more stable
I finally went into this giant collapse nobody knows about in the Treadwell Mine in Juneau, it indeed goes down about 500ft to an underground lake that was I think an underground train passage and the ceilings are 100ft+ in some areas easily, there are passages into the mine off the sides of this collapse. The main mine has stopes that are more like 500-1000 feet deep underground haha and an 8 mile train tunnel you can get from one mountain valley to another
16:10 That could be a rusty auld rocker cover from an engine, you can see the (remains of) bolt holes on the sides & the big hole where the oil fill cap would go. Enjoyed the vid, keep enjoying yourselves!
Guys, I don't know where you live but y'all need to check out beacon cave in Bluefield West Virginia. There's entrances that haven't been sealed and it has not been explored and is said to be miles long
@@TTOS69 there are people that said they've explored it and never found the end. The local rescue squad has a map of the first half mile, but after that they don't even know how far it goes and back in the '70s in the newspaper someone went in and found a 30-ft waterfall, took pictures and said the cave still continued and they've never explored the rest of it
Theres a massive difference between taking artifacts for profit and finding something cool and appreciating it. I found a site with fossils, western and native artifacts. I reached out to a paleontologist and state parks and didnt even get a call back. I was told by native friends that i was specificly meant to find some of the things i have.
I live in the Pennsylvania Coal Region and for years the government has been blocking off abandoned coal mines. They do it for safety and mine runoff kills streams. When I was young we had sulfur creeks around where I live. These days they make settling ponds to remove the toxic mine runoff and some creeks are starting to recover. When I was in high school a few of us would go down into the mines and every single one we knew of got blocked off. Some you can't even tell a mine was there. We use to find all kinds of stuff in there, even dynamite.
The smell could POSSIBLY indicate "a very bad thing" or it could be harmless and just stinky. There's no reason to comment as if they were facing certain death. (I know that type of comment is a fan favorite for people on social media. People just love clutching their pearls.🙄)
@@kassiopiajudkins2722 Some cave gasses are a real threat to life, this is a known fact. Even the most veteran miners and cave explorers bring equipment to be safe because they know they're otherwise vulnerable to not knowing what they're breathing, this is a known fact. You can't tell that it's safe without some testing method such as a meter or bird, this is a known fact. Any untested gas could be deadly, this is a known fact. This isn't pearl clutching, this is called being professional, or unprofessional in these dude's case. However, strawmanning, DH3-Contradiction, and "clutching your pearls" is common social media rhetoric, and so is emoji eye rolling. Please be a little more professional in your thinking and a lot more thoughtful about what you write, otherwise you'll embarrass yourself again like here.
@@trackertom No spider in the US is dangerous enough to be scary, also they are probably surrounded by them in every cave they go to... If they were doing this in australia, brazil or some asian countries then yeah some of the spiders there can actually be scary...
I had a good friend who was a fearless caver. He died during a caving expedition. All the times we were in caves and I was nervous about going further, he never hesitated. He was so afraid of spiders that if he saw one in his car driving down the road, he would pull over and get out until someone dealt with the spider.
@@acm_1028lol if it's illegal it's just bc money can be made off it. Rather these guys take it as a keep sake than it be lost in the Earth forever or sold between rich people...
@@acm_1028 It would be one thing to be actively looting ancient grave sites, but I doubt anyone will get into any real trouble for picking up a random stone tool.
lacking decent equipment, they'll soon lack basic human needs where no one can save them. But hey, my action adventure cartoon show put hero music over it, that means the world's just as childish as I am, right? bro's gunna die in a cave sooner than if he were doing drugs with his body left there like so many cuz he found the friends and family he had to be too boring for him
Easy there, John Denver we aren't all hip pioneer Colorado mountineer's 🧀 who have seen it all. Like you obviously. But ya! They should keep it. The smithsonian and other federal agencies have mountains of artifacts they dont wanna show or return... and funny enough they are exempt from any such binding laws that do exist
If you guys are in western pa right now you should check out panthers cave by oil city pa, theres is a folks tale that the cave goes all the way across the Allegheny River and the native Americans would use it to cross when the waters were too high
! Awesome I live in Schuylkill Co. Near pottsville. Grew up below harrisburg. But I've heard that the original line of big cat can be traced to North America and specifically pennsylvania. Hence Nittany lion. It wasn't just a little mountain cat. The susquehanna river is 3rd oldest in world and may be oldest River to sustain human life anywhere. The true history of the world is hidden from us and our state is even more murky than most when digging in. Our state has played a big part in the shaping of our entire world. And it's not by accident or coincidence. Also susquehanock Indians were the most powerful tried in the entire north eastern u.s. and their history is basically wiped out and they are unknown to most when compared to other tribes. Why? Because this state has a much richer history than we even know.
Been watching for about a year now, just wanna thank you guys for always keeping it entertaining. By far one of my favorite channels to mindlessly watch! keep up the great work guys!
That arrowhead isn't an arrowhead, more likely just a cutting tool, what we'd call a biface (2-faced flaked chert or flint blade). I always recommend leaving artifacts where they're found, you can come back and find it again years from now, with your children. Museums and archaeologists and tribes definitely do not need it, they'd tell you to go put it back. Great find though! Proves people were down in these caves, eons ago. Removing the artifact, you remove that context and the magic disappears, and it becomes just a broken rock.
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DO NOT ENTER THIS CAVE! The rock is not structurally sound. The inner ceiling has fallen down multiple times, the floor is entirely covered in broken slabs. It can collapse further at any moment!
Theory on the other opening.... They basically damned up the water... Once it filled to the point of bursting it eventually find a way around and the rush of water then and over the decades made that second opening big enough to walk right in?? ...
At 7:42 those fossils are Basket stars and they still can be found in the deep oceans. Some coal was of low grade and not worth mining out. Like where I live coal was found but of a low BTU so they never mined it. Which is good, I don't have worry about mine subsidence taking out my home.
Is it possible a cave was already there that had a coal seam in it that they then mined out? A reverse of you guys finding a cave in a mine, found a mine in a cave, haha? Those spiral fossils are really cool!
That's definitely an arrowhead the napping on both sides tells you it isn't a flake of chert.and the swirly fossils are gastropods pretty much just old snails and mollusk like you said.
Any time you dig into the ground to mine coal you expose that coal to oxygen from the air and to water - creating water laced with sulfuric acid. Mines are sealed to prevent acid mine drainage - acidic water - from contaminating groundwater
If you live in USA, Brazil, Venezuela, Cuba, Canadá, French, UK, (hmmm you got it) you have NO government, that's probably your (and millions of souls) problems
The metal rectangle you found was a part of an old internal combustion engine (It goes on the top part above the pistons and the hole was for adding oil). Likely a 4 cylinder from the size of it, possibly diesel, like a generator or something running outside the mine, to provide power and lighting in the tight spaces and keep the air clean. If anyone knows the model it's from or the correct name of the part add it in the comments. I think it's called the Rocker Cover.
Seems like a natural cave adjacent to an old coal mine. The wall helps reduce acid mine drainage by keeping air / oxygen out. The company I used to work for got several. contracts in WV sealing up old mine openings.
For the arrowhead I expect if you locate the nearest anthropology department and fire off an email to em basically showing what you found and where you found it, they'd be able to tell you a lot about it since they'd know what groups operated in the area and around what times etc. and also inform you on how to best handle that kind of thing in the future, plus whatever other questions you guys have - they're usually happy to share knowledge.
No, they wouldn't be able to tell them much. It's a flaked flint cutting tool, they were made all over the world just like this, from millions of years ago until the modern era. They used to be much more common, but everyone takes them when they're found, so now they're not as common
I asked yall a couple of years ago if you had ever found any points while caving and yall said no. Cool to see it finally happen, I've found hundreds of them things and that is a knife/blade for sure
That was a stone knife , roughly 9,000 to 13,000 years old. You should have kept that, chances are that if you don't retrieve it then it will likely never see the light of day again , given some time it may be destroyed by the minerals building up on it and it becoming part of a mineral formation.
@DrewishBear it's been there since the original settlers so your argument is invalid. Our would you go to a native American burial and strip it of everything so you can sit them on top of your Playstation
I’d definitely suggest investing in some gas detectors for your helmets. We had some in construction that don’t weigh very much and are about half the size of a pack of cigarettes.
6:08 there are paw/claw marks under the other guys knee so there signs of life in the cave which usually means no harmful gasses that’s your way of telling if your okay to explore if you don’t have the proper equipment
i love how excited they get when they think they found the fuzzy crystals then they realize they are unsure wth that even is yet they seems so amused by it they just happy to be there LOL
Archaeologist here. The footage isn't super clear but it certainly looks knapped. Notify the state heritage management department so they can asses the context and investigate the cave further if necessary. Artifact "collectors" are just looters. And others here saying its only illegal because the gov wants to make mobey on it is nonsense. Its because once you mess with a site, tgar information is then gone forever. The information is the important part.
Yes, and the government has seized ALL rights to ALL the information that they don't know about yet until suck time as they know they know if they want it or not. Just like the Indians land, they want it ALL! Anything Native American belongs to the US Government. Not the Indians. YES SIR!
That ship sailed on this cave a long time ago. If it was a mine that evidence was found, overlooked, and destroyed by the mining company long ago. Then a wall was put up, and you aren't allowed to go there. I'm sure these two guys will cause so much more damage 🤣 and many cultures would call YOU a looter if not outright a grave robber. You only aren't when the government gives you permission to dig. "Author-ity"
@@rooster3640that is incorrect. Artifacts and archaeological sites belong to the landowner, not the government. Also, the landowner has access to information about archaeological sites on their land, it's not kept by the government from everyone. Generally kept secret from the general public, to discourage looters.
@@frankmacleod2565 I agree with you man don't listen to the first comment. "Quick report it to the government so they can keep it secret!".....Pffffffff kick sand kid I've had enough of these fake columbia university turds hiding history from us.
Please go back and do slow focused camera work at the entrance and along the walls so we can see those megalithic ancient stones... You found an ancient site bros
That sulfer smell could be a sign of hydrogen sulfide. Hopefully y'all use detectors in the future when you encounter the smell.
I hardly know you, but I'd like to see you fellers stay among the living.
Maybe sealed for safety. Worse epa clean up site. /s
"silver" smell? Are you trying to say "sulfur?"
@@terminaltom1662 Thanks for the heads up.
These guys have been pretty lucky for how lax they are with some basic safety measures and risk taking and going into most caves with little knowledge on what to expect. Also what are they thinking going into a sealed government site? Best case they're treading on an area that has a reason to be preserved for cultural significance or future research. Worst case the cave is sealed because it known to have a variety of different ways caves can be too dangerous, like instability or unbreathable air either from dust or the air itself. Also them recording themselves acknowledging there's a "No Trespassing" sign and going in anyways is also a great idea.
The sulfur smell is exactly what it smells like, sulfur. There is coal around the ground water, the coal contains surfer it leaches out into the ground water many wells and springs have this issue it’s common.
Gas detectors are a must in an environment like this - I recently did confined spaces training and it's scary how easily you can succumb to a lack of oxygen or noxious gases without even realising the danger.
Not a bad way to go...just feeling a little dizzy/sleepy, maybe just lie down here for bit....
TN has some hot caves, from leaking dump sites, remember places like Oakridge area 50-100miles radius and 'the Bomb' development, and some leaking dumps in Eastern TN too over karst! If thinking about a gas detector don't forget about a bump tester fir it to, so you know it is actually working, but the cost is a lot for just a cavers, and maybe a Giger counter for a few caves I've heard about that are actually radioactive 'hot'. Sorry I don't have specific cave names or locations to share. Just that there are a few 'hot' caves, more than just radon because of leaking dump sites. Glade you left the possible arrow head. I hope you let the archeologist know about it and sent them the pictures, and the location. The value of some things can not be only measured in money. Knowledge and history do have value on there own, even if not everyone thinks it's valuable unless money is involved. Simple taking it word mean it's non-monetary value would be lost. And some places the law is written that you need to not take it, helping to keep sites from being plundered hopefully. Thanks for sharing in your exploration. Looks like a cave to me. The brick wall and federal signs and smell do make me wonder...
Duuude! What!😂
Look at the fuzzy crystals! Oh, they're not crystals ...Just gonna set my drink here, I'll come back for it
If they find H2S, they will never know it.
Another way for an arrow head to end up deep in a cave, is the game was hit, but ran in there to die.
@heathercaltagirone4563 eh i thought the tracks were recent in the mud, not fossilized in stone... i doubt someone is out there in modern times throwing spears at animals...
Excellent idea but for the fact that this isn't an arrowhead or other projectile point. Likely a knife or something like that
@@frankmacleod2565 I think it might be "pre-form" not heat treated so it might be in the 8000-10,000 years old, would have been in that ice age sediment. look for mastodon or mammoth bones.
@@65ramblerman how could you tell it wasn't heat treated? I've heat treated chert myself and diagnose heat treatment on artifacts at work, and couldn't tell this was heat treated. Also the term pre-form just means it was like a blank, prior to finer shaping into a finished tool. Preforms aren't limited to the mammoth hunting era, all finished flaked stone tools are preforms at some stage of their development
@@frankmacleod2565 My understanding from ---as he considered himself the one to know (he wrote several books) that a pre-form did not mean it was not finished, it related to an era as well (he was rather condescending to me until he realized i was not a student). As I was told at the University heat treatment will turn the chert hues of pink to brown. other stone that flaked well might not be heat treated in younger eras. Heat treating before knaping will make for sharper edges and thinner form. But it's always good to check with a local university to know who was in the area and when.
The WPA on that sign means Works Progress Administration, created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1935. The aim was to provide jobs and infrastructure during the Great Depression. The WPA undertook a wide range of projects, from building roads and public buildings to mining. The WPA likely sealed this mine to protect public safety from the dangers of toxic gases and an unstable structure.
Yeah that roof looks sketchy as fuck
One of the primary purposes of the WPA& CCC was to destroy and obfuscate history. It’s THE primary purpose of the Smithsonian.
Dept. of Interior and Army Corps of Engineers have played there part as well into the modern era.
Was to cover up history, CCC was organized expressly for that purpose.
@@DrewishBear My Grand Parents were born well before then. you're quite wrong
@@DrewishBear100%
The mineral staining you see are white is Hydrozincite, black is manganese, red is iron, yellow is sulphides.
Or sulfates.
Was going to say the same things the white could also be calcium or lime the red is definitely Iron abs they said the water smelled bad I would say it had a lot of Sulphur in it which would be the yellowish coloring the water will smell of rotten eggs or what we called as kids farm water lol.. im from Florida the well water in Florida has a lot of Sulphur smells terrible well need to go very deep into the ground to get away from the Sulphur. We had 2 well on out farm in Florida one was a artesian well and the other was a pump well the pump well was Sulphur which was ran into the house had to get so many water system ans it still was Sulphur smelling but out artesian well was so deep it did not smell of Sulphur which we end up using it to the house and drinking water for the cattle and horses. But the pump well water terrible smelling and it left lime calcium Sulphur and iron stains on everything.
What would the blue be from other videos?
@@suebee1436 Blue can be Azurite, Chalcocite and a host of other copper minerals.
@@VikingExploration60 thank you!
You guys need to cary an air quality sensor. They're only a couple of hundred bucks and it might save your life. Maybe a subscriber can hook you up with one?
he said in the video they forgot to bring it.
they make enough money off these videos
Yeah this is a stupid way to die
there's SO MUCH MORE they should be doing with these trips... they should have EVERY METER AVAILABLE simply for the purpose of being thorough and educating the public on the conditions in these places... with 730,000 SUBS REVENUE, they don't need handouts... they need to MATURE and reinvest in this BUSINESS like responsible grownups... they even "FORGET" basic things like in this video he "FORGOT" his bright headlamp... HOW DO YOU FORGET one of the most basic but important tools of the trade you're most proud of???? it's frustrating to say the least.
I was totally thinking "Canary in a coal mine"
I spent years underground and scaling walls and backs (Roof) was done everyday. Mines are constantly caving in as the rocks expand and the crushing weight does it's thing.
The slabs above you can be pried down with the slightest bit of leverage. You can even do it by hand and it's impossible to tell if one will bring the rest down.
Sometimes, you can't see if one is about to fall until you walk under it to the other side of it.
It's the walking under it that freaks me out and I would even be afraid to raise my voice in there.
Interesting video, thanks.
Caves are really dangerous. That sulfur odor is likely H2S gas which can kill you. There is a reason they would take birds into the mine. If the bird died, then you knew to get out of there.
Yeah but DUUUUDE!!! LOOK!!! An arrowhead! WHAAAAAT?!?! Duuuude....
That's not true. They used to take dinosaurs inside with them. Some people took dragons to fly around. If the dragon died then you had to walk out.
@@homie-gtv322 yeah they also tried it with 90 meters long sandworm that can Engulf you in seconds.. if it dies it means you found minecraft netherite cause it bonked the sandworm into his forehead or mouth or whatever
@@TheChadSmithPodcastyou sound jealous
Carbon dioxide is the oderless gas that kills in caves, and why they used birds.
So nice that I can sit here in my recliner and vicariously explore the cave with you.
Same here, but I'm rocking the couch to see if it will trigger a roof collapse.
@@someotherdude You’ll have that on your conscience, if it does
Bet you never thought there'd be video's like this on youtube 17 years ago when you made your account
I used to work in a coal mine. What you are seeing are ammonite fossils. Also when you are hack in those old mines you need to be careful of dead air which is low oxygenated air. It can kill very rapidly. Also the walls were not natural those were rockfalls. The sound was shifting rock… used to call it tommyknockers. You hear that get out. Risk of rockfalls follows that sound.
Yeah, about 2 minutes before they say they don’t think it’s a coal mine, I was thinking exactly that. Because there are no coal seams, no equipment left behind. It’s just a very dangerous cave where the roof could collapse in on you.
The WPA was disbanded years ago, but their records are somewhere. If you care to research this place, call your Representative in the House and ask them to help you locate the records about this mine. Or ask a local librarian. They love to do research.
Sounds like two of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles gone exploring. 😂
lol…never thought that before, but it matches perfectly. The enthusiasm is infectious tho
Wonder if they love pizza
“Holy crap dude!”
Duuuude. DUUUUUUDE!!
@@robotpizzathey most certainly do
It’s absolutely crazy to go in with no gas detector and being that loud in a unknown cave with cracked slabs of rock on the roof they could come down very easy
I dont think this is sanctioned by the speleological society ;)
There's cracked slabs of rocks in nearly every single cave they visit.. 🤷
The problem isn't loud voices in my area, it's contractors blasting rock for the new water treatment plant that changed some caves I know about.
@@R3TR0R4V3 I think the difference here is there are many large horizonal ones above their head carrying a lot of weight and in some areas prying off. Many of the caves they go in have a more natural looking cylindrical shape that seems like it'd be a lot more stable
Federal Government says stay out, lets go in... Whats that foul smell?
I found an arrow head, lets give it to authorities.
Plus discovered a new source for their "Bong Water!"
😂
Fack feds 💀👍
Artifacts should go to the nearest indian reservation where they have a chance of being saved.
@@AverageAmericannaw that bitch goin straight on eBay bro
That white slime is a bioluminescent algae if you would have turned your lights off you probably would have seen blue light everywhere
Dam a missed opportunity that sounds amazing
It really resembles a cave more than it does a mine
I think he realized that when he put it into the title
most mines started as caves
I play minecraft and agree with this comment
They are melted red brick structures
@@MaaaattologyyyyExactly
I felt like I was spelunking with Bill and Ted in this video. PARTY ON DUDES!
Bill and Ted's Most Excellent Cave Adventures!😂
I finally went into this giant collapse nobody knows about in the Treadwell Mine in Juneau, it indeed goes down about 500ft to an underground lake that was I think an underground train passage and the ceilings are 100ft+ in some areas easily, there are passages into the mine off the sides of this collapse. The main mine has stopes that are more like 500-1000 feet deep underground haha and an 8 mile train tunnel you can get from one mountain valley to another
Do you have a video on here somewhere? That would be cool to see bro!
You watch analog??
@@chrisgravbelle7980 just some photos, you need a raft to go past the entrance. I am not crazy enough to do the train tunnel though.
Juneau? Where that be¿
@@wasntme3651alaska
Looks to me like a hybrid mine. They used a naturally formed cave to access the coal, much as they did for saltpeter back in the day.
Spot on
Listen, I saw several spots where the roof is ready to come down in big slabs. You guys are eventually going to meet your maker in these.
Most Excellent find Bill.
Thanks Ted.
❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🙏
Hilarious lol
16:10 That could be a rusty auld rocker cover from an engine, you can see the (remains of) bolt holes on the sides & the big hole where the oil fill cap would go.
Enjoyed the vid, keep enjoying yourselves!
I love how genuinely happy and excited they sound to explore.
Yooo, duuuude
Dude, this is WILD
Guys, I don't know where you live but y'all need to check out beacon cave in Bluefield West Virginia. There's entrances that haven't been sealed and it has not been explored and is said to be miles long
How would it not be explored, but it's miles long? Ha
@@TTOS69 there are people that said they've explored it and never found the end. The local rescue squad has a map of the first half mile, but after that they don't even know how far it goes and back in the '70s in the newspaper someone went in and found a 30-ft waterfall, took pictures and said the cave still continued and they've never explored the rest of it
It’s been explored several times but still would be a cool video.
@@MountaineerGarage not all of the passages from what I've heard
Same thing here in Washington on the Cascade mountains
Theres a massive difference between taking artifacts for profit and finding something cool and appreciating it. I found a site with fossils, western and native artifacts. I reached out to a paleontologist and state parks and didnt even get a call back. I was told by native friends that i was specificly meant to find some of the things i have.
I agree!
Definitely would've kept it, if that was an arrow head. I don't think it was though.
Sure bro. Land back.
Wonderful! I love armchair exploring (from Scotland) with you! Fantastic adventure yet again! Thank you.
I too am scottish, glasgow 😀
I live in the Pennsylvania Coal Region and for years the government has been blocking off abandoned coal mines. They do it for safety and mine runoff kills streams. When I was young we had sulfur creeks around where I live. These days they make settling ponds to remove the toxic mine runoff and some creeks are starting to recover. When I was in high school a few of us would go down into the mines and every single one we knew of got blocked off. Some you can't even tell a mine was there. We use to find all kinds of stuff in there, even dynamite.
Ever heared of miners having a bird with them for the gasses as they would die way before people would be effected. That smell is a very bad thing
Canary in a coal mine.
Laisse les oiseaux tranquille abruti !
The smell could POSSIBLY indicate "a very bad thing" or it could be harmless and just stinky. There's no reason to comment as if they were facing certain death. (I know that type of comment is a fan favorite for people on social media. People just love clutching their pearls.🙄)
@@kassiopiajudkins2722 Some cave gasses are a real threat to life, this is a known fact. Even the most veteran miners and cave explorers bring equipment to be safe because they know they're otherwise vulnerable to not knowing what they're breathing, this is a known fact. You can't tell that it's safe without some testing method such as a meter or bird, this is a known fact. Any untested gas could be deadly, this is a known fact.
This isn't pearl clutching, this is called being professional, or unprofessional in these dude's case. However, strawmanning, DH3-Contradiction, and "clutching your pearls" is common social media rhetoric, and so is emoji eye rolling. Please be a little more professional in your thinking and a lot more thoughtful about what you write, otherwise you'll embarrass yourself again like here.
Pirates carried wooden legs too.
Crawls deep inside the Earth on a daily basis and the one tiny spider blocking the path scares him shitless. You cant make this shit up
Entirely justified
@@trackertom No spider in the US is dangerous enough to be scary, also they are probably surrounded by them in every cave they go to... If they were doing this in australia, brazil or some asian countries then yeah some of the spiders there can actually be scary...
I had a good friend who was a fearless caver. He died during a caving expedition. All the times we were in caves and I was nervous about going further, he never hesitated. He was so afraid of spiders that if he saw one in his car driving down the road, he would pull over and get out until someone dealt with the spider.
@@RussellWarrick LOL
@@RussellWarrick Also sorry about the friend, not laughing at that part
I'm an artifact collector, and that is 100% an ancient knife.
Ya I was thinking a tool of some sort but not an arrowhead. If that's the case isn't it illegal to remove it from the location?
@@acm_1028lol if it's illegal it's just bc money can be made off it. Rather these guys take it as a keep sake than it be lost in the Earth forever or sold between rich people...
@@acm_1028 It would be one thing to be actively looting ancient grave sites, but I doubt anyone will get into any real trouble for picking up a random stone tool.
Artifact thief by the sound of it.
@@TTOS69 I agree but it's different now that it's documented, my local laws state that anything older than 100 years is off limits
I was so worried for you guys that the air might be toxic in that cave or that those spores were toxic.
Keep all the cool videos coming!
I'm not worried, they know the game they're playing and agreed to the risk.
"Dude, I think I HAVE to go in here".
LOL! Like there is no other way...
This channel is great!
Was telling my son about your channel today,...described you as mad and brave! Stay safe guys.
Normal person reads sign: NO TRESPASSING
Action Adventure Twins: Welcome!! Please explore ALL areas and enjoy yourself immensley!!!
lacking decent equipment, they'll soon lack basic human needs where no one can save them. But hey, my action adventure cartoon show put hero music over it, that means the world's just as childish as I am, right? bro's gunna die in a cave sooner than if he were doing drugs with his body left there like so many cuz he found the friends and family he had to be too boring for him
we find arrowheads all over the Colorado mountains. Like finding shells. Just keep it. Also, the water may have brought it in.
Easy there, John Denver we aren't all hip pioneer Colorado mountineer's 🧀 who have seen it all. Like you obviously.
But ya! They should keep it. The smithsonian and other federal agencies have mountains of artifacts they dont wanna show or return... and funny enough they are exempt from any such binding laws that do exist
There are so many even in parking lots 😂😂
If you guys are in western pa right now you should check out panthers cave by oil city pa, theres is a folks tale that the cave goes all the way across the Allegheny River and the native Americans would use it to cross when the waters were too high
! Awesome I live in Schuylkill Co. Near pottsville. Grew up below harrisburg. But I've heard that the original line of big cat can be traced to North America and specifically pennsylvania. Hence Nittany lion. It wasn't just a little mountain cat. The susquehanna river is 3rd oldest in world and may be oldest River to sustain human life anywhere. The true history of the world is hidden from us and our state is even more murky than most when digging in. Our state has played a big part in the shaping of our entire world. And it's not by accident or coincidence. Also susquehanock Indians were the most powerful tried in the entire north eastern u.s. and their history is basically wiped out and they are unknown to most when compared to other tribes. Why? Because this state has a much richer history than we even know.
Bill and Ted's most excellent mine crawl.
Been watching for about a year now, just wanna thank you guys for always keeping it entertaining. By far one of my favorite channels to mindlessly watch! keep up the great work guys!
This is entertainment for you?
Bless your heart 😂
@@BrandonLake-qv9dw oh hell yea😂😂nightmare fuel at its finest, well I’m claustrophobic so it be getting me hella anxious
You guys exploring the places I will never have the balls to so I can watch it on youtube and still shit my pants.
Ahhh damnit,yeah got to admit same
Same
Fr
Seriously 💯
It’s intense just watching these uploads. I get cloister phobic just watching.
@@wasntme3651 bro's gunna be real Closterphobic when cave his collapses💀
It was always a cave. AND for a moment in time, it was a mine.
That arrowhead isn't an arrowhead, more likely just a cutting tool, what we'd call a biface (2-faced flaked chert or flint blade). I always recommend leaving artifacts where they're found, you can come back and find it again years from now, with your children. Museums and archaeologists and tribes definitely do not need it, they'd tell you to go put it back. Great find though! Proves people were down in these caves, eons ago. Removing the artifact, you remove that context and the magic disappears, and it becomes just a broken rock.
I can't believe you found that arrow head in there! I would have never seen it. Fun trip
You guys talk like your living in the 90s and I love it 😂❤ and the cave videos rock, dude 😎
I live in Southern California and MANY people still talk like this lol
Dude! Your subscriptions are astronomical now! I startedwhen you had maybe 770 subscribers! Congrats! You are now an American success and can start selling Action Adventure shirts! I can tell you why you've succeeded:
1. This is the most important - you can hold a camera without jerking the camera around and snapping your head back anf forth and up and down so much the viewrer gets car sick and pukes. MOST cavers do that, older guys just can't handle watching them. This is the most important thing.
2. Your fun to listen to and love what your doing. It's infectious. And I don't like spiders either so I know right where you're coming from (never trust anything with 8 eyes).
3. You find great caves and push new passages where you can, it gives viewers a sense of adventure.
4. You get in tight spots that give us claustrophobia that are still mostly safe (if they scared me too much I'd have to stop watching, I don't want to support something that could end you) (please never slither down super tight passages that start sloping down hill, those things have become death traps many times over the years. Hanging upside down is fatal in the youngest strongest people in at most 3 days, usually 2, the lungs fill with fluid after screaming headaches begin, humans just aren't made for that).
5. You make enough so people can make a habit of watching once or twice a week or so, and they start looking forward to it.
So there you go - so start buying some silver while you can, the American dollar will be inflated to worthlessness in the next 3-4 years, it can't be stopped at this point, so take advantage of silver & gold while you can and make hay while the sun shines, the precious metals will gain a lot in value and you will be left with something when our economic system caves in and depression hits in 3 or 4 years (when this happens who knows if youtube will stick around) - Yes I'm one of those edgy-kated types that had my own business for 30 years and learned a lot of economics and finances, now I'm old but you're young enough to take advantage of what I learned - the dollar has lost near 90% of its value since I was a kid, it will be a lot worse for your generation (I remember 10 cent coca colas in glass bottles and 4 for a penny hard candy). Best of luck.
that water coming from the place you found the arrow head looks absolutely delicious and refreshing
Adventure twins gonna find the alien caves soon…. I feel it…
yep
They might stop posting if they do....
No. We all know these spots. They just filmed it.
This one probably is. That’s why it’s got a wall.
Looks like you're having a great time. This may seem funny but it's nice to listen to people that can speak without a string of foul language.
My lord .. I watched this episodes with headphones on and the sounds and phantom noises are wild in some parts
Timestamps? 😊
Shes too lazy.
DO NOT ENTER THIS CAVE! The rock is not structurally sound. The inner ceiling has fallen down multiple times, the floor is entirely covered in broken slabs. It can collapse further at any moment!
Lol at some people here... They only uploaded this video 6 minutes ago and it is 18 minutes long, there is no way you watched it all, lol.
I watched it twice. 3.5x baby.
@@yimmay35734 🤣
Words of wisdom from the kid who wears a hockey helmet when he rides the short bus😂😂
@@yimmay35734BS.
@@FuzzyDunIop To be fair, he is in BTR
Cool explore! Thanks for bringing us along!!🎉
It’s like watching live action goonies.
Theory on the other opening.... They basically damned up the water... Once it filled to the point of bursting it eventually find a way around and the rush of water then and over the decades made that second opening big enough to walk right in?? ...
At 7:42 those fossils are Basket stars and they still can be found in the deep oceans. Some coal was of low grade and not worth mining out. Like where I live coal was found but of a low BTU so they never mined it. Which is good, I don't have worry about mine subsidence taking out my home.
I'm glad you guys are out there checking these places out! Ain't no way! No way! No, how! I'm going in there! 👍🥰 all the best to ya!
Is it possible a cave was already there that had a coal seam in it that they then mined out? A reverse of you guys finding a cave in a mine, found a mine in a cave, haha?
Those spiral fossils are really cool!
That's definitely an arrowhead the napping on both sides tells you it isn't a flake of chert.and the swirly fossils are gastropods pretty much just old snails and mollusk like you said.
"I gotta activate the long sleeves." i would have activated getting the hell out of there long ago 😂😂
Yes brother, Real deal for sure. Cool find keep it! You was ment to find it. cool video brother Thanks for sharing.
Take a shot every time they say Dude
Dude, is that a rock. Holy shit DUDE!
Dude man dude bro dude.
Saying doood is what makes these dudes The Dude
Dude i'm wasted
They need a Dude Counter vs Bro Counter.
Let’s Go!🎉 Awesome to see you guys in a mine for once! Western Pennsylvania? I can take you places in NEPA you’d love.
Any time you dig into the ground to mine coal you expose that coal to oxygen from the air and to water - creating water laced with sulfuric acid. Mines are sealed to prevent acid mine drainage - acidic water - from contaminating groundwater
I'm not a big fan of the government.
nor they of you
None of us are.
Me neither mate, me neither
30 on 30
If you live in USA, Brazil, Venezuela, Cuba, Canadá, French, UK, (hmmm you got it) you have NO government, that's probably your (and millions of souls) problems
“Activate the long sleeves!” 😆
Wooww Duuude!!!!!!
The metal rectangle you found was a part of an old internal combustion engine (It goes on the top part above the pistons and the hole was for adding oil). Likely a 4 cylinder from the size of it, possibly diesel, like a generator or something running outside the mine, to provide power and lighting in the tight spaces and keep the air clean. If anyone knows the model it's from or the correct name of the part add it in the comments. I think it's called the Rocker Cover.
It never ceases to amaze n horrify me how many spiders are in these places...
I find myself wondering what they are eating in there??!!
@@amberandrews6842 Each other maybe
@47rapflex or other bugs, lol
But they are thriving in caves and finding other insects to eat.
Doesn't look like a place I'd want to spend my months or years of life as a spider.
They appear on nephilim lines.
Scared of spiders but not afraid of a possible collapse?
I love how they went through all that work to seal off the cave, but forgot the massive hole next to it.
It was done in 1940 ,the side eroded
Have you never heard that old saying curiosity killed the cat 🤣
Yes, but satisfaction brought it back!
BILL AND TEDS MOST EXCELLENT ADVENTURE DUDE!
That was soo mastered, seeing wide passage but 2 spiders on large webs on the way :
"Noo bro, shamee, but it's the end of this route" 😂😂😂
Maybe more of a spear tip than a arrowhead but nonetheless a sick find.
Seems like a natural cave adjacent to an old coal mine. The wall helps reduce acid mine drainage by keeping air / oxygen out. The company I used to work for got several. contracts in WV sealing up old mine openings.
Very cool and very cool find with the arrowhead
Very cool duuuuuude!
For the arrowhead I expect if you locate the nearest anthropology department and fire off an email to em basically showing what you found and where you found it, they'd be able to tell you a lot about it since they'd know what groups operated in the area and around what times etc. and also inform you on how to best handle that kind of thing in the future, plus whatever other questions you guys have - they're usually happy to share knowledge.
No, they wouldn't be able to tell them much. It's a flaked flint cutting tool, they were made all over the world just like this, from millions of years ago until the modern era. They used to be much more common, but everyone takes them when they're found, so now they're not as common
likely would also get some form of trespassing fine or summoned to court for admitting to being in a federally blocked location.
@@geronimo5537 well the university anthropology department doesn't issue citations but yeah, that too
Danger 🚫🙅♂️ don't try this at home
Duuuude!😂 That high pitched "duuuude" at the 5:13 mark tipped me over the edge! I laughed so hard I had a coughing fit!!❤. Thanks dudes 😘
There are hundreds and hundreds of miles of tunnels beneath Butte Montana.
There’s a city underneath my Shasta
I asked yall a couple of years ago if you had ever found any points while caving and yall said no. Cool to see it finally happen, I've found hundreds of them things and that is a knife/blade for sure
Great exploring & thanks ActionAdventureTwins 🤗👍
just wait till you find the ancient lizard people caves
With Jim Morrison on the throne
@Nordo-Cromagnoid lmao
This is like the Dollar Store version of spelunking on a budget.
Take a shot for every time he says “Dude” - and a double for “Holy Crap”…
blacked out drunk..send help. 😅
When you come across things like arrow heads, pottery, other artifacts--archeological etiquette = leave it where you found it.
That was a stone knife , roughly 9,000 to 13,000 years old. You should have kept that, chances are that if you don't retrieve it then it will likely never see the light of day again , given some time it may be destroyed by the minerals building up on it and it becoming part of a mineral formation.
Definitely 13 billion
Why not leave it? I mean it's literally part of that habitat and would do better there than be a trophy.
@@delonjohnson5907 they should have left their knives too and gone home and brought back more..all tools should be abandoned in nature, naturally
@DrewishBear it's been there since the original settlers so your argument is invalid. Our would you go to a native American burial and strip it of everything so you can sit them on top of your Playstation
@@delonjohnson5907 don’t be a dork..1)Xbox or bust 2) you put burial trinketry in a shadow box next to your sports trophies, duh
I’d definitely suggest investing in some gas detectors for your helmets. We had some in construction that don’t weigh very much and are about half the size of a pack of cigarettes.
Bill and Teds excellent splunking... Dude... Dude!!! Duuuuuuuude... Lol...
My alarms bells are like NOPE NOPE - so I am glad you are filming it because only way Id see that
Swirly things may be ammonites.
Nematodes I think
Or small crinoids
I think that the fossils are gastropods. They're a kind of sea snail. could be 400 million years old!
I don't know what any of those things are, but I do know what I'm about to Google™...
6:08 there are paw/claw marks under the other guys knee so there signs of life in the cave which usually means no harmful gasses that’s your way of telling if your okay to explore if you don’t have the proper equipment
Keep the awesome videos coming!! Stay safe
You guys are making me wanna go explore.
i love how excited they get when they think they found the fuzzy crystals then they realize they are unsure wth that even is yet they seems so amused by it
they just happy to be there LOL
Thanks for your hard work in getting into places many of us can't!
Archaeologist here. The footage isn't super clear but it certainly looks knapped. Notify the state heritage management department so they can asses the context and investigate the cave further if necessary.
Artifact "collectors" are just looters. And others here saying its only illegal because the gov wants to make mobey on it is nonsense. Its because once you mess with a site, tgar information is then gone forever. The information is the important part.
Yes, and the government has seized ALL rights to ALL the information that they don't know about yet until suck time as they know they know if they want it or not. Just like the Indians land, they want it ALL! Anything Native American belongs to the US Government. Not the Indians. YES SIR!
That ship sailed on this cave a long time ago. If it was a mine that evidence was found, overlooked, and destroyed by the mining company long ago. Then a wall was put up, and you aren't allowed to go there. I'm sure these two guys will cause so much more damage 🤣 and many cultures would call YOU a looter if not outright a grave robber. You only aren't when the government gives you permission to dig. "Author-ity"
@@rooster3640that is incorrect. Artifacts and archaeological sites belong to the landowner, not the government. Also, the landowner has access to information about archaeological sites on their land, it's not kept by the government from everyone. Generally kept secret from the general public, to discourage looters.
@@frankmacleod2565 I agree with you man don't listen to the first comment. "Quick report it to the government so they can keep it secret!".....Pffffffff kick sand kid I've had enough of these fake columbia university turds hiding history from us.
Panthers cave in tionesta pa would be a great place to explore. Lots of caves and carvings in the rocks.
That’s pretty solid that you left it behind.
another good video, always excited to see that you've uploaded! Would love to see a caving gear collection video!
Please go back and do slow focused camera work at the entrance and along the walls so we can see those megalithic ancient stones... You found an ancient site bros