@@Imertdane nono i know who mephiles is, it was just a joke about how shadow doesn't remember him because of all the timeline things in 06, and the fact it was pratically erased, also a little reference to adam smasher.
Mephiles's boss fight effectively confirmed that Mephiles IS "alive". He's simply stuck in the void, unable to leave and interact with the timeline; fully aware of his predicament. Which asks a VERY interesting question: If Robotnik(Classic) and Eggman(Modern) managed to find their way out of the void, what's stopping Mephiles? Or is he alredy out and we just don't know it yet?
@@1hundred1not exactly. Shadow, whilst manipulating time directly, isn't doing so on such a massive scale. And while the Chaos Emeralds are able to effect time, it's only as a means to travel between points in time. Mephiles' predicament is quite different. He isn't just locked in a time paradox, he's locked in a paradox that doesn't technically exist. The only way he was able to reappear here was because of the time anomaly, but even then, he would've needed a chaos emerald to escape the void (which is why he was trying to kill Shadow).
@@axell15thewispmaster79 in a way shadow made sure it happened once he no diffed him again after mephiles tried to get his run back but got embarrassed even worse this time.
0:28 Shadow’s brother 7:37 Metal Overlord (who could be the manifestation of Eggman’s gambling addiction) 11:22 Shadow and Sonic have a reunion at Fun Land 14:05 Memphis Tennessee 18:18 The Devil
yeah Sonic 06 got erased cuz of Elize & Sonic both putting the quote.. Flame of Iblis down (which held that at once together) once that went out? it went out with it.
No you don't understand. The intro (festival scene) of 06 happened and is canon... It's simply Solaris and all the events around Solaris that don't exist, however the time eater has the ability to pull erased timelines and put them back into existence. *Sonic 06 has been and will always be canon*
14:09 in case if someone forgot, back on sonic 2006, princess elise blow up the fire of solaris, so iblis and also mephiles will no longer exist, and yet, they will never meant to meet each other, include memory. which explains why Shadow doesn't remember about the seal and mephiles
"I will defeat you, then restore myself to the timeline" and "I want... to exist!" Is Mephelis really fully aware that he is in time? I mean that the same: Metal, Classic Eggman and others did not realize that they were traveling through time, some understood only when it was explained to them. Time travel in Sonic is not entirely clear yet (although there are already 3 games from the main series of games where this topic is touched upon), but as I understand it, if you move a creature in time that also controls time, it will perfectly understand what is happening. Mephelis understood that he is in time, but while he is trapped inside his "limbo" he will dance to the tune of Time Eater (although more likely Eggman). In addition, Ian Flynn once said that he believes in the connection between Mephelis and Time Eater. According to this logic, the second one simply moved part of himself in time or something like that. I think Mephelis could be brought back into the franchise without time interference, but only if they have ideas about it.
I think Mephiles might be uniquely aware of his situation compared to most of the others. Considering his combined form of Solaris has power over time, and Mephiles was the character that showed the other characters in '06 that they could time travel via Chaos Control, it feels logical that he would have a much broader awareness of timelines on top of being aware that he is trapped in a time paradox that he cannot escape given his desire to kill Shadow and become part of the timeline again.
@@aidanhammans9337 that is the thing about time travel. While Iblis would not return to the time line with him, Mephiles would just have to egineer events to put the events of '06 back on the timeline. A example of this is going back to the point where Sonic and Elise snuffed Solaris' flame out and stop them from doing so. Failing that, he would at least work toward getting his revenge on those who defeated him There are alot of variations, time travel plots are messy
Wow, that ending scene with Maria was actually very touching. See Sega? You don't need to make them kiss in order for there to be a strong relationship
@@Darksilver740 it’s funny you’d say that when besides Sonic the majority of these characters have never kissed, and most likely never will now since they’ve stepped away from all shipping the last couple of years
Funnily enough, Gerald called Shadow son fully making their relationship familial even if it isn’t by blood Which also means that Shadow is technically Eggman’s uncle
Really hope this is a sign that Metal Sonic and Mephiles will one day have more of a role as these boss fights felt more like a tease of what could be. The former is reasonably popular, but hasn't *really* done anything as far as the games are concerned since Heroes. While the latter has steadily grown in popularity and is a fan favorite villain a LOT of people wish would come back as Shadow's primary antagonist.
The... entire dialouge of the Mephilies fight was literally about how he *dosen't exist* and isn't canon. Unless we get more time travel stories; he's not coming back.
Holy shit. The Metal Overlord fight in this game is so much better than it was in Heroes. Not only does it last way longer, but you can actually enjoy the song without any disruptions from performing team attacks. Also Neo Devil Doom looks sick af. Really captures the eldritch horror vibe the original had.
they did it in the only way they are able to giving him a battle to exist, cause he knows as much as us, that he will never be alive again ooooor they will write him without the timetravel power to get him back, but then its just moneymaking imo
They had to yeah as Shadow faced & defeated him before, but had both Rouge & Omega with him (even though they were useless in assisting as NPC characters though & Shadow won by carrying threw it by himself) once the fight had ended.
@@GoddessShadowYT and in terms of History sister, Although Silver Marijuana Hair was responsible for freeing Mephiles in the past, The one who defeated Mephiles was Shadow, proving once and for all that Team Dark never existed, since both 3 had their reasons to betray the team itself, Rouge for wanting to steal the emeralds, Omega for revenge for being abandoned in that laboratory and Shadow without his memories he would go after the first person he saw.
@@Miranha-SupremoV18 eeeh yeah. to be blunt Silver *was responsible* for freeing Mephiles but the *actual 1 who obtained His Septer he was sealed inside* was Eggman & he ended up dropping it during the small scuffle he had getting it back from both Shadow & Rouge all at once while backed by a small robo hitsquad (way less then what Sonic easily took out on his intro debut btw) 😐
00:00 The Bio Lizard. 07:18 Metal Overlord. 11:22 Sonic The Hedgehog. 13:36 Mephiles The Darkness. 18:00 Black Doom. → (Devil Doom.) → (Neo Devil Doom.)
Mephiles from 06: want iblis to be summon so he can be merged to become solaris and destroy the universe mephiles in SXSG: *I WANT TO EXIST IN YOUR TIMELINE JUST LET ME EXISTS LET ME EXIST!!!*
I love how Sonic said I found you Shadow instead of Faker this time, like he acknowledges who shadow is instead of causing him trouble like in Sonic Adventure 2. Also It's nice that Shadow fights the Biolizard in a new way, as well as mephiles and he fights Metal Overlord all by himself this time. And OMG Shadow fighting Devil Doom with his Wings out of his Hedgehog body looks so awesome.
And we saw that Shadow lost because he hesitated and LET Sonic win. Cuz Shadow had the opportunity to take him down, but he hesitated and Sonic caught him off guard. Because don’t forget Shadow has gotten more powerful throughout the story. And he could’ve easily taken Sonic down, if he didn’t care.
@@ShadowrulzalwaysHe didn’t necessarily let Sonic win. Shadow states that he will beat him on equal terms or not at all. Shadows statement shows his strong sense of pride and rivalry with Sonic and his deep sense of honor, showing that he wants to prove his superiority through pure skill rather than using Black Doom’s power, which he may view as a shortcut or something tainted. Shadow saw that sonic was getting the upperhand and was conflicted on whether he should use his power which is what led to him losing. It’s not that he let himself get hit on purpose.
Sonic is a straight up tech demo of the next generation of games. im fuckin pumped. I think his model needs some work, but I am HYPE, especially with the improved facial expressions.
It’s Mike Pollock who voiced Eggman and Gerald. Strange how they didn’t get Roger considering in Heroes he shared Sonic’s voice Edit: actually it’s Ray Chase whose voiced characters like Noctis, Master of Masters and Bruno Bucciarati. The 2nd half of the comment still stands lol
11:53 Did you drink too much Sonic? First Elise, then Time Eater, and then Amy who has no love for herself. You, Sonic, prefer this type of person for "love dates": Princesses, Monsters, Barangas, and no Female Hedgehogs.
@@Tari_10_Editz Sonic instead of saying he would fight the Monster, he said he would have a "Date" with the Monster that's why he's going to have a romantic encounter with the time eater, damn sonic you still haven't gotten over the loss of Elise.
Its funny that in sonic heroes you need a damn gang and the power of the chaos emeralds to beat Metal Overlord while Shadow just beat his ass alone while trash talking him.
Yes and also the black doom abilities Shadow got in the game which pretty sure Metal Overlord is unaware and unfamiliar of can be the main reason why Shadow managed to beat him since Metal Madness doesn't have data on it
Ngl it’s nice to see that most of the bosses are the older generations (no pun intended) of villains it made me wonder if maybe infinite could have joined the bosses since shadow did fought him but then I realized his from a game we don’t talk about. Any who GREAT GAME!can’t wait to get mine on Friday Keep going Almost there Have Awesome Day 😃
@@chaos7-r3g yeah but as I recall so was metal overlord yeah shadow and his gang was pivotal to defeating him but like he wasn’t much a villain to him at least with mephlies and biolizard were actual villains that he had actually interacted with
@@chaos7-r3g Well he didn’t have the phantom ruby at that time. It would’ve been really cool if infinite appeared in a level and started messing with it like how black doom does.
I wish Infinite showed up as a boss in this. Tho it wouldn't make sense since this takes place before Forces. So maybe he'll show up in a future game since fans are asking for his return now
I mean, there’s a Forces stage and a Frontiers stage so technically it still could have happened, just Shadow wouldn’t have any context to what Infinite was like with Mephiles
@@jokelethkurueisner9229and also they basically missed out their ultimate moves during cutscene it just ends with sonic beating shadow with homing attack As I honestly wish we get to see their charged attacks during their fight in that cutscene since it’s sorta of retcon that Sonic beat shadow just by homing attacking while shadow didn’t even use his chaos abilities
@@hackerninjaexe5791 It's not the biggest deal in the world. That would be sort of like saying the alternate dialogue in the Adventure games are all individually retcons. It's roughly that scale of severity.
There might be a future DLC for the game. In the game's files, there is a boss named perfect black doom. Sega did say that they were gonna use some ideas from sonic frontiers for future installments. In Shadow Generations, the open hub world reminds me of the open world in sonic frontiers. Both sonic and shadow eyes glow like their movie counterparts when they use the new powers they gain which is some form of corruption to them. For Sonic it's cyberspace energy for Shadow it's doom powers. Also, the doom blast reminds me a lot of the cross slash. So there might be a future DLC where Shadow gets a new form from his doom powers just like how Sonic got a new form from cyber corruption in Sonic Frontier's DLC.
watch the sonic glazers try to say sonic beat shadow when not was he caught off guard but he outright admits he let sonic win and tricked him with a fake emerald
Oh so Shadow hesitated and LET Sonic win. See I knew something wasn’t right. Shadow could have actually taken advantage and beaten Sonic easily but he hesitated and Sonic got lucky cuz of it. The developers had to come up with some excuse as to how Sonic could’ve won. Cuz Shadow is much more powerful with his new abilities and would have been too much for Sonic to handle at this point. Especially since he has no items or any power ups to back him up in this fight. In a serious match, Shadow has the upper hand. Especially, if he decides to stop holding back and take off his rings and go maximum power. And considering that he took down Neo Devil Doom on his own without Super Form, shows that Shadow has gotten much more powerful.
No point, shadow already destroyed him in a cutscene from forces lmao. He wasn’t really much of a villain to shadow, just someone who got in his way. Shadow was more of a villain to infinite lol
The final boss was great, but honestly, the mephilis fight was sliiiightly more hype for me. I dont even know why. Im not even an 06 fan, but i had His World playing in the background for the meme and it syncs up suspiciously well for the fight
My only real criticism is the lip syncing and Shadow's line delivery at the end. Too soft. The cutscene animates him as if he's shouting or panicking, but his voice is way too gentle. Other than that, I'm really impressed with how these cutscenes look. Such a massive improvement from Frontiers.
@@andresugalde916 Yeah I don't see why it's something to complain about. It's a little disappointing, but we still have the fight and it's a cool fight. It's _in_ the game.
I love the fact that Sonic Team essentially went back to what was considered their worst games... and did them justice and aknowledged their existence. That, and finally, we have a game that understands Shadow's characters instead of making him this edgy rival trope again. B)
10% of comments: Metal Sonic 5% of comments: Infinite 84,9999% of comments: Mephiles 0,0001% of comments: Black Doom 🔻🔻 Black Doom: HELLO! I'M THE MAIN ANTAGONIST HERE!!!! 😠 INFINITE ISN'T EVEN IN THE GAME!!!! 😫 Infitite: Don't remind me. I am strong enough to make a good boss fight!!! 🟥 Metal Sonic: I could use a break. This is the 1748th time I was beaten into scrap metal. 🤖 Mephiles: YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT TOUGH?! I'M HAVING A LITERAL EXISTENTIAL CRISIS! 💀 Biolizard: GAAAAAH!!! 🦕🦕
I’m surprised they didn’t put Infinite as a boss as well. But probably for the best since Shadow would’ve just taken care of him in a cutscene rather than a playable boss fight.
5:51 it’s great to have the original voice actor who voice black doom in the original shadow the hedgehog game and it’s been a years ago since he’s forgotten
4 bosses ain't bad and overall I enjoyed the story of both Shadow and Sonic's However I am disappointed in the Sonic cameo! It is a great start but it all happens in a cutscene, No boss fight just all in a cutscene like C'mon! I wanted a version where you played as Shadow but whatever at least the rest of the game is great and I am happy with the changes Sonic's story got
Shadow has gotten so powerful since STH 2005 that he doesn’t need to go Super that previously required him and team Sonic Heroes to become in order to defeat the main antagonist.
Me: “Okay so the Biolizard seems similar to his SA2 and 3DS fights, so this’ll be pretty standard for a frist boss-“ 1:37 happens “-AlrIGHT THAT’S NEW”
Bit of a shame that I Am (All of Me) didn't return for that final battle, even as a tiny leitmotiff for All Hail Shadow, but it's still an amazing final boss
Yeah. I know All Hail Shadow has been used as his theme song for years but it still would have been nice to hear the theme of his game play at some point, most fittingly during the Devil Doom fight
i love that they didn't even humor the idea of Shadow beating Sonic in the rival fight ... still, would have been smarter to just have it be the Shadow from SA2, but i guess the Chaos Emeralds are a constant & there can't be multiple of each
12:38 you know it would be cool to have access to a harder version of the shadow boss fight where he uses doom spears (and it’s unlocked when you beat him sonic generations and shadow gen)
Biolizard, Metal Overlord, Mephiles, and Black Doom. It makes sense that all of these four will be boss battles for Shadow since they're all the main antagonists on games that label Shadow the protagonist.
"I owe much to you shadow.."
"Who the FUCK are you?"
*
@@Imertdane nono i know who mephiles is, it was just a joke about how shadow doesn't remember him because of all the timeline things in 06, and the fact it was pratically erased, also a little reference to adam smasher.
@@jbraz3693 oh, I thought we were talking about Black Doom, looks like I had to watch the video
What? Did you forget me?
15:26 jbraz is talking about mephlis here’s the clip
14:35 Mephiles got no chill
when he used the same move to kill Sonic, he is getting desperate to kill Shadow
Big brain shadow
No brains just was desperate
He is like archie eggman?
@@Denise-jm1cz better than Archie Eggman
@@playerback7722 I’m not calling Mephiles a big brain, I’m calling shadow a big brain
Mephiles's boss fight effectively confirmed that Mephiles IS "alive".
He's simply stuck in the void, unable to leave and interact with the timeline; fully aware of his predicament.
Which asks a VERY interesting question:
If Robotnik(Classic) and Eggman(Modern) managed to find their way out of the void, what's stopping Mephiles?
Or is he alredy out and we just don't know it yet?
No; he only exosts at all due to the time anaomaly.
As he says himself; he wants to *exist*
So he doesn't exist.
He's in a time paradox. He can't exist outside of it.
@@E-102GammaMKII Shadow messes with time & space almost as often as we pee on the daily bro. Mephiles can get out of the paradox
@@1hundred1not exactly.
Shadow, whilst manipulating time directly, isn't doing so on such a massive scale. And while the Chaos Emeralds are able to effect time, it's only as a means to travel between points in time.
Mephiles' predicament is quite different. He isn't just locked in a time paradox, he's locked in a paradox that doesn't technically exist. The only way he was able to reappear here was because of the time anomaly, but even then, he would've needed a chaos emerald to escape the void (which is why he was trying to kill Shadow).
@@E-102GammaMKII to be fair, Mephiles is a paradoxical being to begin with. His entire history is literally a time loop
I love how Mephiles is the only character who cares about the Sonic timeline
He knows he got retconned
@@andresugalde916 good. Let him suffer
@@axell15thewispmaster79 he tried to be a protagonist killer and failed instantly after catching the body.
@@darkyozora1222 let him, and the rest of 06, suffer for eternity
@@axell15thewispmaster79 in a way shadow made sure it happened once he no diffed him again after mephiles tried to get his run back but got embarrassed even worse this time.
0:28 Shadow’s brother
7:37 Metal Overlord (who could be the manifestation of Eggman’s gambling addiction)
11:22 Shadow and Sonic have a reunion at Fun Land
14:05 Memphis Tennessee
18:18 The Devil
Hey reference
hey you've been seeing Snapcube as well?
The Devil from the Bible at that
Ehh bing bong youre doing a bad job
Im still laughing at how metal sonic tries to mock the player for using chaos control just to still get his shit caught by shadow lmfaooo😂😂😂😂.
I would say that he bit the curb, but there is no curb to be bitten. 😔
@@NaimHankerson-o1j 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He bite off more than he can chew
Got fed the whole ocean.
Ikr? It's freaking funny lol
Sonic Heroes: “We need the power of teamwork and friendship to stop Metal Sonic!!”
Shadow: “No.”
Shadow: "You may need that power, but I don't."
Shadow: "Just give me a Chaos Emerald and Black Doom powers, that's all I need."
Sonic Adventure: “Sonic! Use the power of the 7 chaos emeralds to defeat perfect chaos!”
Sonic: “No.”
19:13
“I gave you life, and yet you defy me? So be it! You shall pay for your ingratitude with relentless pain.”
-Devil Doom
Mephiles Tennesse's eternal quest to become canon
It sucks to be him
There is only room for one shadow and mephiles will only be a bad memory that shadow has to face again and defeat while not going super
@@ryanmichaelp.ortonio9773
Mephiles:😢😢😢
And the result?
Him becoming the "i want to LIVE!" meme from SpongeBob
@@idosarts_and_krafts
Mephiles:NO I WANT TO LIVE
I WANT TO LIVEEE!
shadow:*chaos spear*
16:12 “Welcome to titled towers” -Memphis Tennessee’s
But this isn't tilted or a tower
@@Emir-bb5pl bro doesnt get the meme
@@tuamor477 and I see that you don't see snapcube videos...... I hope Is written like that
Bro actually used actual titled towers in the fight too I'm crying
"Meephiles! I should have guessed. What happened to your mouth?" -Shadow the Hedgehog
I like how Mephelies outright admits Sonic '06 isn't actually canon because it erased itself from the timeline.
yeah Sonic 06 got erased cuz of Elize & Sonic both putting the quote.. Flame of Iblis down (which held that at once together) once that went out? it went out with it.
Exactly
Got the Fallout:Brotherhood Of Steel treatment
No you don't understand. The intro (festival scene) of 06 happened and is canon...
It's simply Solaris and all the events around Solaris that don't exist, however the time eater has the ability to pull erased timelines and put them back into existence.
*Sonic 06 has been and will always be canon*
@@GFCProductionsx Yes; the intro festival happened. Literally everything else did not.
As soon as I saw Mephiles is back, I immediately started freaking out! He's my favorite Sonic villain!
Highly agree ✅
14:09 in case if someone forgot, back on sonic 2006, princess elise blow up the fire of solaris, so iblis and also mephiles will no longer exist, and yet, they will never meant to meet each other, include memory.
which explains why Shadow doesn't remember about the seal and mephiles
06 happened but never happened so Shadow is just fighting a dude that's canonically non-canon
Time travel makes things hard to think.
I see the tradition of Sonic games having good boss fights is still going strong :)
what have you drank?
In what timeline you live
@@villa_asies3420I think he’s only played the classic games, mania and og gens 💀
16:12
"I throw these, cause I get so tilted at the towers!"
"I will defeat you, then restore myself to the timeline" and "I want... to exist!" Is Mephelis really fully aware that he is in time? I mean that the same: Metal, Classic Eggman and others did not realize that they were traveling through time, some understood only when it was explained to them. Time travel in Sonic is not entirely clear yet (although there are already 3 games from the main series of games where this topic is touched upon), but as I understand it, if you move a creature in time that also controls time, it will perfectly understand what is happening. Mephelis understood that he is in time, but while he is trapped inside his "limbo" he will dance to the tune of Time Eater (although more likely Eggman). In addition, Ian Flynn once said that he believes in the connection between Mephelis and Time Eater. According to this logic, the second one simply moved part of himself in time or something like that. I think Mephelis could be brought back into the franchise without time interference, but only if they have ideas about it.
I think Mephiles might be uniquely aware of his situation compared to most of the others. Considering his combined form of Solaris has power over time, and Mephiles was the character that showed the other characters in '06 that they could time travel via Chaos Control, it feels logical that he would have a much broader awareness of timelines on top of being aware that he is trapped in a time paradox that he cannot escape given his desire to kill Shadow and become part of the timeline again.
@@felinaotsu3161okay but what if he did? Iblis wouldn’t come with. What is Mephiles without a plan to reform Solaris?
@@aidanhammans9337A half-god without a purpose (except taking revenge on Shadow probably)
@@aidanhammans9337 that is the thing about time travel. While Iblis would not return to the time line with him, Mephiles would just have to egineer events to put the events of '06 back on the timeline. A example of this is going back to the point where Sonic and Elise snuffed Solaris' flame out and stop them from doing so. Failing that, he would at least work toward getting his revenge on those who defeated him
There are alot of variations, time travel plots are messy
I was expecting Emerl to be a rival fight considering they went through the trouble of reintroducing him in Dark Beginnings
Even Infinite
We still have hope with the DLCS
@@Mememan-fo1idhow would that even work? This story takes place during generations
@@Niccolò765 idk if Sunset Heights and Chaos Island gets to be in the game then it could be possible
Sonic Boss battle to
@@Mememan-fo1idShadow was in forces though.
Chaos Island was just there for pandering though.
Wow, that ending scene with Maria was actually very touching. See Sega? You don't need to make them kiss in order for there to be a strong relationship
@@Darksilver740 it’s funny you’d say that when besides Sonic the majority of these characters have never kissed, and most likely never will now since they’ve stepped away from all shipping the last couple of years
Tell that to the fans who draw fan art of them kissing
Funnily enough, Gerald called Shadow son fully making their relationship familial even if it isn’t by blood
Which also means that Shadow is technically Eggman’s uncle
Sonic hasn't kissed either (sally isn’t cannon shush)
@beywheelzhater8930 that... that makes the SA2 FanDub SO much more disgusting 😭
Really hope this is a sign that Metal Sonic and Mephiles will one day have more of a role as these boss fights felt more like a tease of what could be.
The former is reasonably popular, but hasn't *really* done anything as far as the games are concerned since Heroes.
While the latter has steadily grown in popularity and is a fan favorite villain a LOT of people wish would come back as Shadow's primary antagonist.
The... entire dialouge of the Mephilies fight was literally about how he *dosen't exist* and isn't canon. Unless we get more time travel stories; he's not coming back.
Mephiles served his purpose. He's done and gone.
Also, Metal Sonic is overrated. He peaked in _Sonic Heroes._
he isn’t overrated shut up!
I just want a new villian that isnt a fucking planet.
@@chrisdejager2325 the End has real potential. sega just need to be more creative with it
Holy shit. The Metal Overlord fight in this game is so much better than it was in Heroes. Not only does it last way longer, but you can actually enjoy the song without any disruptions from performing team attacks.
Also Neo Devil Doom looks sick af. Really captures the eldritch horror vibe the original had.
Ok, Sega gave in and brought back Mephiles, just because his popularity in Sonic fan games and videos is astronomically noticeable.
they did it in the only way they are able to
giving him a battle to exist, cause he knows as much as us, that he will never be alive again
ooooor they will write him without the timetravel power to get him back, but then its just moneymaking imo
@@Lightwrath1994 This was probably Sega's scapegoat if Metaphor RE:Fantasio failed, and as usual it didn't.
They had to yeah as Shadow faced & defeated him before, but had both Rouge & Omega with him (even though they were useless in assisting as NPC characters though & Shadow won by carrying threw it by himself) once the fight had ended.
@@GoddessShadowYT and in terms of History sister, Although Silver Marijuana Hair was responsible for freeing Mephiles in the past, The one who defeated Mephiles was Shadow, proving once and for all that Team Dark never existed, since both 3 had their reasons to betray the team itself, Rouge for wanting to steal the emeralds, Omega for revenge for being abandoned in that laboratory and Shadow without his memories he would go after the first person he saw.
@@Miranha-SupremoV18 eeeh yeah. to be blunt Silver *was responsible* for freeing Mephiles but the *actual 1 who obtained His Septer he was sealed inside* was Eggman & he ended up dropping it during the small scuffle he had getting it back from both Shadow & Rouge all at once while backed by a small robo hitsquad (way less then what Sonic easily took out on his intro debut btw) 😐
7:55 The rage scream of Metal Overlord is so scary and awesome!
Black Dooms guttural death yell was better GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Biolizars screamed like that in sonic adventure 2
Mephiles is silent
00:00 The Bio Lizard.
07:18 Metal Overlord.
11:22 Sonic The Hedgehog.
13:36 Mephiles The Darkness.
18:00 Black Doom. → (Devil Doom.) → (Neo Devil Doom.)
Mephiles from 06: want iblis to be summon so he can be merged to become solaris and destroy the universe
mephiles in SXSG: *I WANT TO EXIST IN YOUR TIMELINE JUST LET ME EXISTS LET ME EXIST!!!*
I love how Sonic said I found you Shadow instead of Faker this time, like he acknowledges who shadow is instead of causing him trouble like in Sonic Adventure 2.
Also It's nice that Shadow fights the Biolizard in a new way, as well as mephiles and he fights Metal Overlord all by himself this time.
And OMG Shadow fighting Devil Doom with his Wings out of his Hedgehog body looks so awesome.
11:23 that SA2 and sonic heroes dialogue reference
Crapy yet string Sam. Disgraceful
Sonic here is straight up bait, he is just a cutscene, a really damn cool cutscene, but not a boss.
I am rather nettled about it
And we saw that Shadow lost because he hesitated and LET Sonic win. Cuz Shadow had the opportunity to take him down, but he hesitated and Sonic caught him off guard. Because don’t forget Shadow has gotten more powerful throughout the story. And he could’ve easily taken Sonic down, if he didn’t care.
@@ShadowrulzalwaysHe didn’t necessarily let Sonic win. Shadow states that he will beat him on equal terms or not at all. Shadows statement shows his strong sense of pride and rivalry with Sonic and his deep sense of honor, showing that he wants to prove his superiority through pure skill rather than using Black Doom’s power, which he may view as a shortcut or something tainted. Shadow saw that sonic was getting the upperhand and was conflicted on whether he should use his power which is what led to him losing. It’s not that he let himself get hit on purpose.
Chaos 0 in forces: First time ?
Sonic is a straight up tech demo of the next generation of games. im fuckin pumped. I think his model needs some work, but I am HYPE, especially with the improved facial expressions.
I love to see my boy metal sonic and who ever voiced him did a great job
It’s Mike Pollock who voiced Eggman and Gerald. Strange how they didn’t get Roger considering in Heroes he shared Sonic’s voice
Edit: actually it’s Ray Chase whose voiced characters like Noctis, Master of Masters and Bruno Bucciarati. The 2nd half of the comment still stands lol
@@redstreak9430 thank you for telling me and I really like his voice for metal overlord
Mephiles sounded he's struggling, as if he was crying out of anger to exist.
AINT NO WAY MEPHILES ACTUALLY USED TILTED TOWERS AND WEAPONISED IT!
HE GOT TILTED AT THE TOWERS
i love how Metal Overlord still has What I'm Made Of by Crush 40.
OH yeah! like in the actual Sonic Heroes game!
This is the true Shadow The Hedgehog we all needed.
11:53 Did you drink too much Sonic? First Elise, then Time Eater, and then Amy who has no love for herself. You, Sonic, prefer this type of person for "love dates": Princesses, Monsters, Barangas, and no Female Hedgehogs.
It’s just a Sonic Heroes reference lol
@redstreak9430 what!!??? I hadn't even thought about .
He means that he's gonna battle it
Seriously🤦
@@Tari_10_Editz Sonic instead of saying he would fight the Monster, he said he would have a "Date" with the Monster that's why he's going to have a romantic encounter with the time eater, damn sonic you still haven't gotten over the loss of Elise.
@@Miranha-SupremoV18
I mean...that boss fight IS about running up to it and grabbing its ball.
Its funny that in sonic heroes you need a damn gang and the power of the chaos emeralds to beat Metal Overlord while Shadow just beat his ass alone while trash talking him.
shadow build different
Pretty sure it's mostly that Metal Overlord doesn't have data on the present shadow as he only has data on shadow from sonic heroes
@@jayrodchannel Makes sense, but Shadow got THAT powerfull since heroes?
Yes and also the black doom abilities Shadow got in the game which pretty sure Metal Overlord is unaware and unfamiliar of can be the main reason why Shadow managed to beat him since Metal Madness doesn't have data on it
I'm pretty sure Sonic and Shadow just get stronger and faster over time
They really did a good job with the bosses here.
Oh nice you got the game early. Cant wait to play mine on friday.
Can’t wait for my Christmas present
Same
Ngl it’s nice to see that most of the bosses are the older generations (no pun intended) of villains it made me wonder if maybe infinite could have joined the bosses since shadow did fought him but then I realized his from a game we don’t talk about. Any who GREAT GAME!can’t wait to get mine on Friday
Keep going
Almost there
Have Awesome Day 😃
I just can't till we see this game on PC/New Gen Consoles just to see how pretty this game actually is
No point really for infinite, he wasn’t really a villain to shadow, shadow pretty much beat him up once in a cutscene and that was it lol
@@chaos7-r3g yeah but as I recall so was metal overlord yeah shadow and his gang was pivotal to defeating him but like he wasn’t much a villain to him at least with mephlies and biolizard were actual villains that he had actually interacted with
@@chaos7-r3g Well he didn’t have the phantom ruby at that time. It would’ve been really cool if infinite appeared in a level and started messing with it like how black doom does.
Bro fix you’re spelling!
I hope they give Mephiles a bigger role in the future. Maybe in Shadow the Hedgehog 2?
This game technically is shadow 2 if you think about it
shadow in base form beats the biolizard, metal overlord, mephiles and devil doom.
sonic in base form beats shadow.
sonic = OP
Shadow held back
Only because Shadow is planning to fool Sonic with the fake emerald
Shadow legit held pack and said as much. He wants to beat Sonic as an equal not unfairly with a power up he doesn’t understand.
shadow held back.
I mean Shadow normally beats the Biolizard and Mephilies in base. Metal Overlord and Devil Doom require power-ups.
Now to close the "Shadow year" all that's missing is the Sonic 3 movie, which for me will compete for the Oscar for movie of the year.
I'm not sure about that, but it will be a fun movie regardless.
Man, this movie can be a 10/10 Masterpiece, but no way those boring critics and old directors would allow the movie to run for Best movie.
You can finally beat the living sh¡t outta Mephiles.
Best game ever
I wish Infinite showed up as a boss in this. Tho it wouldn't make sense since this takes place before Forces. So maybe he'll show up in a future game since fans are asking for his return now
I mean, there’s a Forces stage and a Frontiers stage so technically it still could have happened, just Shadow wouldn’t have any context to what Infinite was like with Mephiles
Have you played this game? Because forces stages are literally in the game
@@redstreak9430 Ah ok. And I bet it would have been cool to see Shadow fight one of the Titans
@@jacobpainter1962 yeah, could have incorporated the Doom Wings in the fight
Sega canned Infinite so hard that i doubt he will ever come back. Not even Mephiles got thrown out as badly
11:54 he said the thing!
Last Time, It was in Sonic Heroes, right?
@@douglasthedragon032 correct
Sonic is not actually a playable boss in this story. 🤔
I mean, it's canon he wins that fight so it makes some level of sense
@@jared11111they could’ve at least gave you the chance to beat Sonic followed by a cutscene where he then gets up and beats Shadow
@@jokelethkurueisner9229and also they basically missed out their ultimate moves during cutscene it just ends with sonic beating shadow with homing attack
As I honestly wish we get to see their charged attacks during their fight in that cutscene since it’s sorta of retcon that Sonic beat shadow just by homing attacking while shadow didn’t even use his chaos abilities
@@hackerninjaexe5791
It's not the biggest deal in the world. That would be sort of like saying the alternate dialogue in the Adventure games are all individually retcons. It's roughly that scale of severity.
GOOD, cus if we're not getin an Infinite boss battle, then I don't want to fight Sonic again either.
_look at things calmly, the game will be released on October 25th_
>Act
>Give Item
>strange gun
"Patience is virtue, plan ahead and aim accordingly"
Shadow really had this dude Mephiles stressin'. As if he was whimpering out of anger and desperation to exist.
25:17
yessss i can feel the 06 shadow energy, shadow removing his limiters without actually removing them lol
Gerald says that if shadow took his limiter rings off in this form he would explode due to too much power.
Memphis Tennessee is literally fighting for is existence meaning hes literally aware that he doesn't exist anymore
Sonic isn’t a boss fight it’s literally just a cutscene but i wish it actually was
I SEE MEMPHIS TENNESSEE HAS RETURNED
10:22 best line from metal overlord
There might be a future DLC for the game. In the game's files, there is a boss named perfect black doom. Sega did say that they were gonna use some ideas from sonic frontiers for future installments. In Shadow Generations, the open hub world reminds me of the open world in sonic frontiers. Both sonic and shadow eyes glow like their movie counterparts when they use the new powers they gain which is some form of corruption to them. For Sonic it's cyberspace energy for Shadow it's doom powers. Also, the doom blast reminds me a lot of the cross slash. So there might be a future DLC where Shadow gets a new form from his doom powers just like how Sonic got a new form from cyber corruption in Sonic Frontier's DLC.
Fun fact is sonic adventure 2 reference 13:22
Mephiles: *I want to exist*
Shadow: *Just Die again b...h*
U know u can cuss right? RUclips won’t block it
@@jordandillow3423 Someone might be dum enough to report it as an insult tho.
Oh okay sorry oops my bad
Yoooo! Is that Robbie Daymond playing Mephiles? Awesome.
I almost felt sorry for Mephilis. Almost. He just wants to exist. Too bad by existing he’d doom reality as we know it.
watch the sonic glazers try to say sonic beat shadow when not was he caught off guard but he outright admits he let sonic win and tricked him with a fake emerald
22:20 This is where the true epic starts 🔥
Mephiles 🤝 Akechi
*Both being a living time paradox*
Oh so Shadow hesitated and LET Sonic win. See I knew something wasn’t right. Shadow could have actually taken advantage and beaten Sonic easily but he hesitated and Sonic got lucky cuz of it.
The developers had to come up with some excuse as to how Sonic could’ve won. Cuz Shadow is much more powerful with his new abilities and would have been too much for Sonic to handle at this point. Especially since he has no items or any power ups to back him up in this fight. In a serious match, Shadow has the upper hand. Especially, if he decides to stop holding back and take off his rings and go maximum power. And considering that he took down Neo Devil Doom on his own without Super Form, shows that Shadow has gotten much more powerful.
Actually, if you talk to Omega after the Sonic cutscene he’ll say Sonic and Shadow are equal in speed and strength
29:25 rogues smile knowing the one thing (or should I say one person) that could get shadow to cry
A shame that no infinite boss here
Because he didn't exist at the time.
Well you would think that because a sonic forces level is involved
Chaos Island and Sunset Heights: Am I joking for you @@jazzratoon?
Just wait for another Sonic game, and you'll be happy.
No point, shadow already destroyed him in a cutscene from forces lmao. He wasn’t really much of a villain to shadow, just someone who got in his way. Shadow was more of a villain to infinite lol
*Infinite the Jackal:* (jealous) Nobody cares about me.
Shadow vs. Metal Sonic is such an iconic battle, the two greatest scientists' creations pitted against each other.
The game is undoubtedly magnificent, absolutely magnificent!!!🤩🤩🤩
I like mephiles's new voice and shit talking. Gives hime more personality than just being the devil.
Robbie Daymond really did a great job voicing him.
I love how the bosses have question marks and they have the theme tell you who it is.
The final boss was great, but honestly, the mephilis fight was sliiiightly more hype for me. I dont even know why. Im not even an 06 fan, but i had His World playing in the background for the meme and it syncs up suspiciously well for the fight
The fact that Roger didn't voice Metal Overlord in the same vein as Ryan Drummond is such a mortal sin.
My only real criticism is the lip syncing and Shadow's line delivery at the end. Too soft. The cutscene animates him as if he's shouting or panicking, but his voice is way too gentle. Other than that, I'm really impressed with how these cutscenes look. Such a massive improvement from Frontiers.
Sonic got the chaos treatment
It's not like the fight is missing from the overall package
honestly its way better than chaos just getting one tapped by classic sonic
@@andresugalde916
Yeah I don't see why it's something to complain about. It's a little disappointing, but we still have the fight and it's a cool fight. It's _in_ the game.
At least his cutscene was cool and it didn’t undermine a character *coughTailscough*
LOVE how Shadow introduces Mephiles to his trademark roundhouse kick to the back of the head
I love the fact that Sonic Team essentially went back to what was considered their worst games... and did them justice and aknowledged their existence.
That, and finally, we have a game that understands Shadow's characters instead of making him this edgy rival trope again. B)
ARE WE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT SHADOW CRYING??? OH MY GODDDD
10% of comments: Metal Sonic
5% of comments: Infinite
84,9999% of comments: Mephiles
0,0001% of comments: Black Doom 🔻🔻
Black Doom: HELLO! I'M THE MAIN ANTAGONIST HERE!!!! 😠 INFINITE ISN'T EVEN IN THE GAME!!!! 😫
Infitite: Don't remind me. I am strong enough to make a good boss fight!!! 🟥
Metal Sonic: I could use a break. This is the 1748th time I was beaten into scrap metal. 🤖
Mephiles: YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT TOUGH?! I'M HAVING A LITERAL EXISTENTIAL CRISIS! 💀
Biolizard: GAAAAAH!!! 🦕🦕
Don’t forget 30% being “Memphis Tennessee” and “The Devil from the Bible” jokes/quotes
Now this is what you call a redemption run. 👏 I hated the old Shadow the hedgehog game. This one is a A+++.
Sonic is not a boss. It's just a cutscene.
The animaton, it is so FIRE!
I’m surprised they didn’t put Infinite as a boss as well.
But probably for the best since Shadow would’ve just taken care of him in a cutscene rather than a playable boss fight.
I'm not, Infinite was embarassing
5:51 it’s great to have the original voice actor who voice black doom in the original shadow the hedgehog game and it’s been a years ago since he’s forgotten
Believe it or not, it’s not Sean Schemmel but Ben Diskin. He’s doing a good job voice matching the original voice though
15:31 oh yeah, i forgot that everyone forgot the events of Sonic 2006
Everyone wants to forget Sonic 06...😐
4 bosses ain't bad and overall I enjoyed the story of both Shadow and Sonic's
However I am disappointed in the Sonic cameo! It is a great start but it all happens in a cutscene, No boss fight just all in a cutscene like C'mon! I wanted a version where you played as Shadow but whatever at least the rest of the game is great and I am happy with the changes Sonic's story got
Yeah man, this was so disappointing
11:25 Shadow Here + 11:35 Sonic Here + 12:09 Sonic X Shadow Moon + 18:48 (Final Battle) Devil Doom + 22:20 Neo Devil Doom
Shadow has gotten so powerful since STH 2005 that he doesn’t need to go Super that previously required him and team Sonic Heroes to become in order to defeat the main antagonist.
Me: “Okay so the Biolizard seems similar to his SA2 and 3DS fights, so this’ll be pretty standard for a frist boss-“
1:37 happens
“-AlrIGHT THAT’S NEW”
Infinite... You had so much potential to be in the game, and they turned their backs on you...
Bro, these Boss Intros... There's some Ryu ga Gotoku seeping in, I swear.
_Which helps, considering both franchises are owned by SEGA xD_
Bit of a shame that I Am (All of Me) didn't return for that final battle, even as a tiny leitmotiff for All Hail Shadow, but it's still an amazing final boss
Yeah. I know All Hail Shadow has been used as his theme song for years but it still would have been nice to hear the theme of his game play at some point, most fittingly during the Devil Doom fight
They did mephiles dirty :(
Yeah Mephiles sounds more like his Snapecube Dub counterpart than the one from 06
@@AAhmou Idk how much I agree with that. I think that's Robbie Daymond as his VA here.
@@2Xexileyou are not gonna believe who voices mephiles
Dan green was so much better
There is no future for him.
*Ever.*
So glad to see Memphis Tennessee is back
The sa2 reference in the sonic “boss fight” made me smile
i love that they didn't even humor the idea of Shadow beating Sonic in the rival fight
... still, would have been smarter to just have it be the Shadow from SA2, but i guess the Chaos Emeralds are a constant & there can't be multiple of each
12:42 This video is clickbait, bro took damage.
Ohhhh I get that hahahahaha
Shadow beating Devil Doom without becoming Super show how much his ability has creeped from 2005 to 2011
if the DLC of the game had a boss, it would've been cool to see
8:02 this song is a banger it sounds like live and learn
It’s called What I’m Made Of, and it was made by the same band that also made Live and Learn (Crush 40)
"I OWE MUCH TO YOU, SHADOW."
"...I don't even know who you are."
0:53 The Biolizard + 7:56 Metal Overlord + 14:44 Mephiles + 18:48 Devil Doom
12:38 you know it would be cool to have access to a harder version of the shadow boss fight where he uses doom spears (and it’s unlocked when you beat him sonic generations and shadow gen)
Biolizard, Metal Overlord, Mephiles, and Black Doom. It makes sense that all of these four will be boss battles for Shadow since they're all the main antagonists on games that label Shadow the protagonist.