Hey, a year late but I believe the answer to why this is is because sheilds didn't exist in the Franklin's timeline so they had to make the hull plantings thick to survive attacks
@@Prodagist IIRC Scotty said that the Franklin was from before Starfleet existed, and if you take Star Trek: Enterprise into account the Franklin comes from that far back, so they wouldn't have shields yet, only the ability to polarize the hull.
5:11 The most telling thing about the Star Trek universe, whatever the timeline is this: when the Franklin came down, EVERY one mobile went running towards the ship to render aid not away from it in fear.
Daniel Haire not trying to an ass but that is not limited to this Star Trek universe. You see this everyday in real life people just helping others. Problem is we currently live in a world where the only news being reported is some variation on orange man bad.
@@tarn1135 Well your orange man is President of the United States and keeps committing crimes. Openly. Without shame. So yeah, of course the news is going to report on it. If they didn't you'd complain they were ignoring your orange man, so you can't win. True snowflake culture - support a monster, complain that you get associated with monster. GG.
I love when the Franklin comes out of the water and intercepts Krall's ship, I remember going "Interception by the defense!" when I saw this in theaters. lol.
Out of my stupid curiosity I’ve been trying to find out what happens to the franklin after this movie in universe, but to no avail. It’s obviously pretty wrecked by the end here but I would love to think they restored her and turned her into a museum ship. Yorktown was obviously equipped for servicing starships so it’d be a cool follow up.
Being a late 22nd-early 23rd century ship, it either being brought to the nearest ship yard to be gutted or repair with minimum system being operational and put into a museum
@@annguyen-tr3ne she was still important for the data she held. I suspect the starfleet corps of engineers enjoyed repairing the Franklin and bringing her back home
The Original Series and movies company rights, and the New movies company had lawsuits and all kinds of Mayhem... SO the Franklin in the Original series is where you would search , and the ( new ) movies stories really only exists as movies are made...which they may not ever make another since they were Sued and lost in court.
It was said that this movie was full of easter eggs in recognition of the original trek, when the Franklin breached the tube from below the water line it was in recognition of ST IV and of the whales breaching in San Fransisco bay. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
Looked like a decent movie, and the starbase/city was truly stunning, but why they named it Yorktown I have no idea. Yorktown was a Constitution-class ship, NCC-1717, and in some lore was the original designation for the Enterprise-A. They would've and should've named that city something far more grand.
It's more likely a reference to the fact that originally, Gene Rodenberry was gonna name the ship in the show after the USS Yorktown, until he found out about the USS Enterprise.
@@stephenkeebler732 Thank you Professor Binns for that deeply informative history lesson, which has absolutely nothing to do with why they gave the space city a name they usually give to a ship
We do all have a right to our opinions. Except this movie killed the franchise, killed the timeline, they will never make any more because it did so poorly. The movie ranks up there with the biggest flops associated with John Carter and Ghostbusters 2016. Glad you liked it though.
Think it was because they wanted the base intact to use for themselves. Hard to do that if they damage it too much. Attacking the docking bay confines any damage to an area that likely has redundancies against loss of atmosphere.
So... Apparently, I really missed the fact that it really was an *NX-01* class federation ship (same as Cpt. Archer's flagship) upon watching this - lost me like.....8-years missing that fact 😭💦 Dangit...
Lol. I found this funny when it came out. Then I realized, more time has passed from when the Beastie Boys released that single to the Star Trek time, then from when Mozart released his symphonies to now.
OMG. Another Star Wars Easter egg, then, there has been one in ST:2009 that there is an R2 unit included at the destruction of vulcan. And there is another in ST: first contact that the Millennium Falcon is fighting the Borg cube. And there is another in ST: Into darkness that when the Enterprise was shot by the Vengeance at warp, an R2 unit was seen being suck out to space along with the crew in the hull breach.
The station was heavily armed if you look at the beginning of the video. Quadruple torpedo launchers, multiple phasers emitters, etc. I wouldn't want to be a klingon attacking this station
wouldn't have made a difference. In fact, the Vengeance would have been weaker against the swarm ships. Enterprise's phasers were more for quick rapid fire against multiple targets (and yet still nowhere near that many), while Vengeance dealt heavier bursts at a lower rate of fire. It was built to attack large ships and do massive damage.
@@OmegaJuggalo Not really. The Defiant was built to do massive damage to larger ships, it wasn't built for point defense against swarms of smaller targets.
Conventional weapons did work, you just gotta hit. Photon torpedoes would have to be set for proximity detonation, also a lot more emitter arrays than would fit on a ship of the size of Enterprise.
Wesley Hayden-Sauer well I mean to eradicate an entire swarm like that. Singularly did could destroy one or two but they would get overwhelmed. I’m wondering what weapons would be used to destroy all of them without being overwhelmed
Photon Torpedoes should have worked, as in TOS they detonated like nukes in space, and didn't need to physically impact. Yet thanks to Wrath of Khan, Photorps were reduced to just being conventional warheads. Something that remained with the franchise ever since. Voyager was particularly egregious at this.
The swarm ships operated together via a signal transmitted between them in frequencies in the VHF range. Broadcast something loud and disruptive on those same frequencies, and all the automated drones lose all of their communication upon which their flight patterns depend. The ones that don't crash into each other end up totally overloading, and the result is a dead swarm of bees that even Billy the Exterminator would be impressed by :P
@@ambikasingh4625 Oh yea. The swarm was the worst concept, no depth to your enemy-like Klingons and Borg. Then you use a rock song over the vacuum of space to defeat them. The worst choice in a Star Trek combat period. It was like they had giant can of Raid to kill the swarm. Even the animated series had better combat scenes. A one armed Klingon with a disruptor against the Enterprise would be a more honorable fight scene. I am surprised they did use butterflies to penetrate and eviscerate the Enterprise. Simon Pegg should be thrown in the agonizer chamber with hornets. But honestly, there were few scripts for this 3rd installment.
@@spockvskhan4561 What a statement from a "Star Trek fan". Wishing someone pain. If you watched the movie, you'd know that the song was NOT played in the vacuum. Even if, of you start going by that logic, you shouldn't even hear phasers firing and ships exploding. But no, the song was TRANSMITTED on the specific frequency that these swarm ships used to coordinate their formation flying. They used the song to jam the frequency which led to the trajectorial decay of the formation and led to the ships crashing into each other. That was said in the movie. Maybe your should start paying attention before shitting on something.
@@Jaeih This was a cop out ending and a joke theme. I don't think Gene Roddenberry would have liked the recycled motor cycle and Beastie Boys B.S. If you don't like my opinions-so what?! A lot of Star Trek people did not like this movie. The only good scenes were Spock and Mc Coy's banter --even if the writers did not know that Spock's heart is on the left side, not the right. RIP Anton Yelchin.
Radio Waves do not require air to travel through. what doesn't make sense is the fact that the enemy ships would have to be tuned into the same Frequency for this "attack" to have any effect. so trying to disorient the enemy communications via radio waves is a possible but stupid plan, rule of cool still applies though.
@@lordofsalmon It's a bit late, but as I recall the Enterprise crew had already determined the frequency on which the drone pilots were networked. They needed to broadcast something with an intense and somewhat erratic "beat" to interfere with the commands the drones were receiving. It's possible that the century-old, and weather-worn, comm system of the Franklin couldn't generate a (relatively) very intense signal, so only the closest drones were susceptible to their attack. The music the audience was hearing is classified as semi-diegetic. Meaning it is heard by the characters, but slides towards non-diegetic (completely out of context, like the movie's score) at certain points. ie. It's diagetic on the bridge, in the cockpits of the drone ships we see inside, and in the control center of Starbase Yorktown. Those people can hear it, and so can we. It is non-diegetic when the camera cuts to external views in space. No one can hear it there, but the audience can for effect. This could be why the original poster thought there might be sound waves propagating through the vacuum of space. For another example of semi-diegetic music, see the opening credits of Kiki's Delivery Service.
@@shaftoe195 Goes slightly against canon I think. Granted it's been awhile since I saw the 1st episode of Enterprise but I'm pretty sure Archer said before his ship hit the Warp 5 barrier most Earth ships were still stuck at Warp 2
So how exactly are thousands of tiny ships suppose to destroy bigger ships and things with shields? Lost all respect for Jar Jar Abrams after the way he mishandled Star Wars and especially he and Kathleen Kennedy, for asking George to help out and then not using anything George did. Which they asked for and then ignored his input and scenes written and directed for Rise of Skywalker. Jar Jar Abrams just doesn’t understand Sci-fi. It still had to be based or rooted in some fact. He does Sci-fi for people who don’t really like it. He insults smart people. I know it’s a movie, but Star Trek was always rooted in reality. Not a fantasy land where anything can be explained by a line of dialogue or a macguffin.
@@putraadriansyah8082 Radio can easily travel through space. They broadcast music on the frequency drone pilots use to communicate and coordinate their maneuvers, thus effectively jamming them.
It breaks my soul that even though they clearly say out loud in the movie that they are broadcasting on VHF... and yet people still say "sound doesn't travel in space"? One can only facepalm so hard.
@@k1productions87 "The sound is broadcasted on a VHF radio frequency" How a sound that cannot exist can be broadcasted by radio ? There can't be sound in space because there is no air to carry it. Period! I know you are fed by Hollywood spectacular movies, but they are all inaccurate, especially when it comes to space. Deal with it and grow up. Doesn't mean that the movies are bad, but highly inaccurate
@@Philippe2008fr ... VHF radio waves are not auditory. They are a wavelength of electromagnetic radiation, similar to (but in lower frequencies than) UHF, which is Television... which can also transmit through the vacuum of space. You know what also transmitted across space in VHF? The transmissions to and from all spacecraft, whether it be low Earth Orbit, or from the surface of the moon. Unless you're one of these conspiracy nutters who think its all a hoax. Please do at least the slightest little bit of research before you tell someone to "grow up", because you clearly have no concept what-so-ever of this basic principle.
It's so easy to animate a stream of small objects that smash indiscriminately into ships. Real battles are ones like Star Wars where they actually show fighter to fighter action with all the dodging and strafing.
I guess I'm in the minority here but I can't stand the fucking Beastie Boys shit. It's the perfect example of what's wrong with Modern Star Trek where it's all loud noises and flashy lights with zero style or substance.
there is more to it than that. All the swarm ships are automated drones. They fly in coordinated patterns via a signal transmitted between them, which happened to be in VHF frequencies. Otherwise known as radio. Broadcast something loud and disruptive on those same frequencies, and every one of those drone ships lose the communication their operation depends upon. Technically heavy static or an ear piercing tone would have done the same job,... but a song that is seen as loud and obnoxious does that same job. What, would you rather hear Lynn Minmei singing "Shao Pai Long" from the Macross?
@@shaftoe195 I agree with you. The Nerada Incident did changed the Federation to take up more arms and offensives in case another threat from the future comes again. Hence, forming a more action version of Star Trek.
The Enterprise crew: Okay, we lost our old ship, *BUT*, we found a missing one...can we please trade this one in for a new one?
Starfleet: OK sure just give us a few months.
@@MMuraseofSandvich Okie-dokie
yes but with lots of additional latinum
@@thedelta4258 imagine Rutherforde being the guy in charge of giving out ships to captians. Tht would be hillarious
Me at the cemetery
I still can't get over how little damage the Franklin has taken, they really made those ships to take a beating
Older cars takes more beating better, seems like startships too 🤣
Hey, a year late but I believe the answer to why this is is because sheilds didn't exist in the Franklin's timeline so they had to make the hull plantings thick to survive attacks
@@Prodagist IIRC Scotty said that the Franklin was from before Starfleet existed, and if you take Star Trek: Enterprise into account the Franklin comes from that far back, so they wouldn't have shields yet, only the ability to polarize the hull.
5:11 The most telling thing about the Star Trek universe, whatever the timeline is this: when the Franklin came down, EVERY one mobile went running towards the ship to render aid not away from it in fear.
The star trek 2009 trilogy takes place in the Kelvin timeline
Daniel Haire not trying to an ass but that is not limited to this Star Trek universe. You see this everyday in real life people just helping others. Problem is we currently live in a world where the only news being reported is some variation on orange man bad.
Otaku_ Potato What makes you think that Star Trek isn’t indicative of real human behavior? Was that not the whole point?
@@tarn1135 Well your orange man is President of the United States and keeps committing crimes. Openly. Without shame. So yeah, of course the news is going to report on it. If they didn't you'd complain they were ignoring your orange man, so you can't win. True snowflake culture - support a monster, complain that you get associated with monster. GG.
@@chrismadison305
Well, he could just stop being racist.
its amusing that just as the ships are about to hit yorktown they get WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHed out of existence
That's the power of WAGHHHHH!
Warhammer 40K reference ... could not help myself.
I love when the Franklin comes out of the water and intercepts Krall's ship, I remember going "Interception by the defense!" when I saw this in theaters. lol.
Was there that one annoying ass girl that said, "shut up!"?
@@10054 no. I said it to myself quietly.
@@mattboesch8907 ah
1:47-Oh, he still remembers his old ship
3:06-He's probably thinking, "which one of crew listens to that crap?"
Out of my stupid curiosity I’ve been trying to find out what happens to the franklin after this movie in universe, but to no avail. It’s obviously pretty wrecked by the end here but I would love to think they restored her and turned her into a museum ship. Yorktown was obviously equipped for servicing starships so it’d be a cool follow up.
Being a late 22nd-early 23rd century ship, it either being brought to the nearest ship yard to be gutted or repair with minimum system being operational and put into a museum
@@annguyen-tr3ne she was still important for the data she held. I suspect the starfleet corps of engineers enjoyed repairing the Franklin and bringing her back home
The Original Series and movies company rights, and the New movies company had lawsuits and all kinds of Mayhem... SO the Franklin in the Original series is where you would search , and the ( new ) movies stories really only exists as movies are made...which they may not ever make another since they were Sued and lost in court.
I can not stop laughing that Starfleet considers music to be a disruption frequency.
There is precedent. Many earth armies have in reality used music to disrupt broadcasts.
When Kirk makes noise, there is a lot of noise, fire, fun and speed racing. I like it :)
Beastie Boys considered classical music.
Yes beastie boys is considered classical music in the 23rd century
Brilliant ae 🤣
I will never be able to grasp the concept of rock music ever being considered classical music.
Erik Schiller “Welcome to the future”
True. It's classic.... in the 23rd century.
It was said that this movie was full of easter eggs in recognition of the original trek, when the Franklin breached the tube from below the water line it was in recognition of ST IV and of the whales breaching in San Fransisco bay. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
This movie came out around the time ST was reaching its 50 year anniversary so that makes sense
those inertial dampeners were working overtime on that mission
The Voyager Probe received a second response from The Aliens: Time to send more...
That would put them just outside the system, because Voyager hasn't gotten very far.
“They are forming an attack wave!”
Hah.
This is like if someone took an old school destroyer to stop some new fighter jets
The difference is that those "new fighter jets" have no long range weapons, and I would the Franklin is more like a battleship, not a destroyer.
@@samuraijackson241good points, in hindsight idk why i said destroyer. Maybe had star wars star destroyer on the mind
I love old tough little ships like the franklin.
great video , Thank you for sharing
Looked like a decent movie, and the starbase/city was truly stunning, but why they named it Yorktown I have no idea. Yorktown was a Constitution-class ship, NCC-1717, and in some lore was the original designation for the Enterprise-A. They would've and should've named that city something far more grand.
It's more likely a reference to the fact that originally, Gene Rodenberry was gonna name the ship in the show after the USS Yorktown, until he found out about the USS Enterprise.
Actually they are all named after Yorktown, Va, where after the Battle of Yorktown the defeated British Army surrendered in 1781...
@@stephenkeebler732 Thank you Professor Binns for that deeply informative history lesson, which has absolutely nothing to do with why they gave the space city a name they usually give to a ship
More than likely it was because they manufactured the 1701-A in Yorktown at the end of the film.
@@FerretJohn Yorktown was a pivotal battle in the American Revolution. Plus, it's fiction-- they can name it whatever they want.
This was awesome!
When you edited out Kirk's response to the music.......major downer. It's what he was listening to in the vette
Imagine if you were on that ship at 4:58 i feel like in a roller coaster even its just seeing a movie
Star Trek Beyond is by far the best film of the Kelvin era movies
The worst.
To each his own. We all have a right to an opinion
We do all have a right to our opinions. Except this movie killed the franchise, killed the timeline, they will never make any more because it did so poorly. The movie ranks up there with the biggest flops associated with John Carter and Ghostbusters 2016. Glad you liked it though.
I've wondered why they just didnt break the glass instead of attacking the docking bay. Those transparent aluminum windows must be strong stuff
Think it was because they wanted the base intact to use for themselves. Hard to do that if they damage it too much. Attacking the docking bay confines any damage to an area that likely has redundancies against loss of atmosphere.
The Beastie Boys are canon in the Kelvin timeline and they didn't use "Intergalactic?" For shame!
Has that jackwagon ever had a vehicle he DIDN'T crash? Ugh, poor Star Trek. Look at what they've done to it.
3:27 rip door, but what was those edits
So...
Apparently, I really missed the fact that it really was an *NX-01* class federation ship (same as Cpt. Archer's flagship) upon watching this - lost me like.....8-years missing that fact 😭💦
Dangit...
The editing was very tasty
great clip-- thank you
"Is that classical music???" XD
"....yes doctor it would seem to be"
Lol. I found this funny when it came out. Then I realized, more time has passed from when the Beastie Boys released that single to the Star Trek time, then from when Mozart released his symphonies to now.
USAF United State American Federation Rocks as always....... Shredding the Traitor and his Swampire
3:40 X-Wings as Cop Cars?!?
yes
OMG. Another Star Wars Easter egg, then, there has been one in ST:2009 that there is an R2 unit included at the destruction of vulcan. And there is another in ST: first contact that the Millennium Falcon is fighting the Borg cube. And there is another in ST: Into darkness that when the Enterprise was shot by the Vengeance at warp, an R2 unit was seen being suck out to space along with the crew in the hull breach.
We didn't reach this future without Law and Order.
Ok this Episode is Awesome
I love how rock music is called classical music in the future. Funny
Beastie boys, still kicking ass in the future.
So we just going to ignore how they're playing loud music in the vaccum of space? Ok
It's not playing in a vacuum, the frequency is being broadcast over the communication channels. Just like how we can talk to astronauts in space.
I love how everyone is saying this isn't star trek because it's so different.....
Watching this reminded me when sovereign and saren invaded the citadel.
It was at this very moment that Starfleet regretted giving up it's nukes.
What Abrahams couldn't get Kirk to say Pump it up instead.
Okay, I get editing movie clips to avoid copyright issues, but this is ridiculous. There are cuts every 10 seconds.
I had to skip 14 ads before I could watch this video.
Why does every federation ships, facilities, planets, stations, etc. are so easily attacked, destroyed, especially the paper ships
RD B because the enterprise is an exploration ship not like other federation ships that are meant for warfare
@@AXIOS.THEOLOGY constitution, galaxy and sovereign classes, each in its own timeline are Pretty capable of doing warfare.
@@Maxmax-zl9kl New Battles as the Plot Demands *sighs*
Got this scene was badass
What is this 18 frames per second?
Classical music lol
all rights to cbs and paramount picture and yet you still make this video longer by looping battle scenes to make it popular?
Nx and ncc what is happening with star fleet and remember the promethus had 4 crew what is starfleet doing
Beastie Boys forever! 😎
Lets make some noise
What frequency they used
THEY FALL
Board cast: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why did they leave the Yorktown so defenseless, just on station out there with a guy telling then not to approach
Yorktown did have weapons, but traditional phasers and torpedoes aren't effective against Krall's swarm.
The station was heavily armed if you look at the beginning of the video. Quadruple torpedo launchers, multiple phasers emitters, etc. I wouldn't want to be a klingon attacking this station
The station was defending itself with many weapons.
10/10
Where is the final battle, kirk vs krall, i want that video
I can't believe how much damage the franklin had from the rock crash and it is still flying
They probably regretted not having USS Vengeance at their disposal
wouldn't have made a difference. In fact, the Vengeance would have been weaker against the swarm ships.
Enterprise's phasers were more for quick rapid fire against multiple targets (and yet still nowhere near that many), while Vengeance dealt heavier bursts at a lower rate of fire. It was built to attack large ships and do massive damage.
I know why this movie did not do so good.It is because people wanted to see hi lights from the five year mission with today's special effects.
Also, Paramount did a piss poor job promoting the movie
The big D would turn that fleet to ash in 5 mins.
No. Too many target. Impossible for all alone Federation ships to handle it, even the E.
Ironically, the post Dominion war refit Nebulas with their automated point defense systems would have stood the best chance.
The Defiant you mean, that little flying tank would fucking eat these things
@@OmegaJuggalo Not really. The Defiant was built to do massive damage to larger ships, it wasn't built for point defense against swarms of smaller targets.
I’m actually quite curious as to what weapons would be necessary to defeat the Swarm, since conventional weapons don’t work.
Conventional weapons did work, you just gotta hit. Photon torpedoes would have to be set for proximity detonation, also a lot more emitter arrays than would fit on a ship of the size of Enterprise.
Wesley Hayden-Sauer well I mean to eradicate an entire swarm like that. Singularly did could destroy one or two but they would get overwhelmed. I’m wondering what weapons would be used to destroy all of them without being overwhelmed
Photon Torpedoes should have worked, as in TOS they detonated like nukes in space, and didn't need to physically impact.
Yet thanks to Wrath of Khan, Photorps were reduced to just being conventional warheads. Something that remained with the franchise ever since. Voyager was particularly egregious at this.
a huge amount of rapid firing weapons, a phaser version of the phalanx CIWS for example.
COME ON I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT
matrix style ?
Hey, this isn't George Washingmachine.
Ad 1 of 2
Good luck
Are the blue Cluster Torpedos?
mrlokalist yes exactly.
This vid is kinda crap quality yet kinda good quality
Why did you skip the dialogue of James Kirk ...that's a good choice
How does music work in space?
The radio waves from the box interrupted the communications
*its a movie*
Sound may need an atmosphere to travel, but radio waves do not.
The swarm ships operated together via a signal transmitted between them in frequencies in the VHF range. Broadcast something loud and disruptive on those same frequencies, and all the automated drones lose all of their communication upon which their flight patterns depend. The ones that don't crash into each other end up totally overloading, and the result is a dead swarm of bees that even Billy the Exterminator would be impressed by :P
@@k1productions87 So technically it is like sending worms/Trojan Horses to a system,but in this case,signals converted from sound waves.
STAR TREK
OOH RAH U.S.S. Franklin
The worse ending in Trek history to defeat an adversary. And I never wished the well liked Simon Pegg, pain.
Spock vs Khan oh puhleez
@@ambikasingh4625 Oh yea. The swarm was the worst concept, no depth to your enemy-like Klingons and Borg. Then you use a rock song over the vacuum of space to defeat them. The worst choice in a Star Trek combat period. It was like they had giant can of Raid to kill the swarm. Even the animated series had better combat scenes. A one armed Klingon with a disruptor against the Enterprise would be a more honorable fight scene. I am surprised they did use butterflies to penetrate and eviscerate the Enterprise. Simon Pegg should be thrown in the agonizer chamber with hornets. But honestly, there were few scripts for this 3rd installment.
@@spockvskhan4561 What a statement from a "Star Trek fan". Wishing someone pain.
If you watched the movie, you'd know that the song was NOT played in the vacuum. Even if, of you start going by that logic, you shouldn't even hear phasers firing and ships exploding.
But no, the song was TRANSMITTED on the specific frequency that these swarm ships used to coordinate their formation flying. They used the song to jam the frequency which led to the trajectorial decay of the formation and led to the ships crashing into each other. That was said in the movie. Maybe your should start paying attention before shitting on something.
@@Jaeih This was a cop out ending and a joke theme. I don't think Gene Roddenberry would have liked the recycled motor cycle and Beastie Boys B.S. If you don't like my opinions-so what?! A lot of Star Trek people did not like this movie. The only good scenes were Spock and Mc Coy's banter --even if the writers did not know that Spock's heart is on the left side, not the right. RIP Anton Yelchin.
@@spockvskhan4561 It's not about your opinion. But wishing Simon Pegg pain is nowhere near the spirit of Star Trek.
Shame the don't have Shield technology or Phasers in the Kelvin universe. Roddenberry Trek had far better Technology.
that was one of the cringiest scenes i have ever seen in my life.
The fuck was with the looping? You're editing skills are _NIL_
All that action - and yet, somehow, very boring. . . . JarJar Abrams just has a way of totally "effing up" Star Trek.
How big is Yorktown ?
Prolly like 50 feet.
@@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube idk if you are joking or not, but 50 feet is like a length of 2 cars parked horizontally.
I don't know why, but I say 200 miles in diameter.
God this scene was badass
Still wondering how they are blasting audio waves in empty space.... can't seem to figure it out
Radio Waves do not require air to travel through. what doesn't make sense is the fact that the enemy ships would have to be tuned into the same Frequency for this "attack" to have any effect. so trying to disorient the enemy communications via radio waves is a possible but stupid plan, rule of cool still applies though.
@@lordofsalmon It's a bit late, but as I recall the Enterprise crew had already determined the frequency on which the drone pilots were networked. They needed to broadcast something with an intense and somewhat erratic "beat" to interfere with the commands the drones were receiving.
It's possible that the century-old, and weather-worn, comm system of the Franklin couldn't generate a (relatively) very intense signal, so only the closest drones were susceptible to their attack.
The music the audience was hearing is classified as semi-diegetic. Meaning it is heard by the characters, but slides towards non-diegetic (completely out of context, like the movie's score) at certain points. ie. It's diagetic on the bridge, in the cockpits of the drone ships we see inside, and in the control center of Starbase Yorktown. Those people can hear it, and so can we. It is non-diegetic when the camera cuts to external views in space. No one can hear it there, but the audience can for effect. This could be why the original poster thought there might be sound waves propagating through the vacuum of space.
For another example of semi-diegetic music, see the opening credits of Kiki's Delivery Service.
Playing 20th Century rock and roll as a countermeasure to alien tech hundreds of years later is why Star Trek died.
Danny Garland shut up its imaginative and original which is what Star Trek has always been.
Vids WAY TOO Choppy oh And your skipping And repeating all over the place DX
looks like the NX class to me
Well it should. It's the ship that came before the NX class
@@Lightray110 I'm pretty sure it came a little after, the Franklin was an NX class ship, a couple numbers down the line from the Enterprise
@@FerretJohn The Franklin was Earth's first Warp 4 ship, Enterprise was earth's fist warp 5.
@@FerretJohn Franklin was not an NX-class vessel, like Enterprise or Columbia.
@@shaftoe195 Goes slightly against canon I think. Granted it's been awhile since I saw the 1st episode of Enterprise but I'm pretty sure Archer said before his ship hit the Warp 5 barrier most Earth ships were still stuck at Warp 2
False ending...
Great scene... the editing? eh
We can't beat them with phasers or photon torpedoes so let's just use music....300 year old music...not good
They do explain it in the movie, we just don't see that here because of the edit.
So how exactly are thousands of tiny ships suppose to destroy bigger ships and things with shields? Lost all respect for Jar Jar Abrams after the way he mishandled Star Wars and especially he and Kathleen Kennedy, for asking George to help out and then not using anything George did. Which they asked for and then ignored his input and scenes written and directed for Rise of Skywalker.
Jar Jar Abrams just doesn’t understand Sci-fi. It still had to be based or rooted in some fact. He does Sci-fi for people who don’t really like it. He insults smart people. I know it’s a movie, but Star Trek was always rooted in reality. Not a fantasy land where anything can be explained by a line of dialogue or a macguffin.
kinetic energy and the shields only stop energy weapons.
Those bad guy ships really didn't make any sense
From what I understood, they hate the Federation for not being militaristic enough...
2019, people still don't seems to learn that there is NO SOUND IN SPACE!!!
The sound is broadcasted on a VHF radio frequency. Sound cant travel through space but Radio Frequency can do it easy.. (Correct me if i wrong)
@@putraadriansyah8082 Radio can easily travel through space. They broadcast music on the frequency drone pilots use to communicate and coordinate their maneuvers, thus effectively jamming them.
It breaks my soul that even though they clearly say out loud in the movie that they are broadcasting on VHF... and yet people still say "sound doesn't travel in space"? One can only facepalm so hard.
@@k1productions87
"The sound is broadcasted on a VHF radio frequency"
How a sound that cannot exist can be broadcasted by radio ? There can't be sound in space because there is no air to carry it. Period!
I know you are fed by Hollywood spectacular movies, but they are all inaccurate, especially when it comes to space. Deal with it and grow up.
Doesn't mean that the movies are bad, but highly inaccurate
@@Philippe2008fr ... VHF radio waves are not auditory. They are a wavelength of electromagnetic radiation, similar to (but in lower frequencies than) UHF, which is Television... which can also transmit through the vacuum of space. You know what also transmitted across space in VHF? The transmissions to and from all spacecraft, whether it be low Earth Orbit, or from the surface of the moon. Unless you're one of these conspiracy nutters who think its all a hoax.
Please do at least the slightest little bit of research before you tell someone to "grow up", because you clearly have no concept what-so-ever of this basic principle.
It's so easy to animate a stream of small objects that smash indiscriminately into ships. Real battles are ones like Star Wars where they actually show fighter to fighter action with all the dodging and strafing.
Lol real battles hahaha
did you really fking said "real battles" keklmao
Is this the worst?
Is this the laziest writing in history? or just the laziest writing in sci fi history?
Back ground vocal singing thumbs down
What’s with the terrible clipped editing?
I guess I'm in the minority here but I can't stand the fucking Beastie Boys shit. It's the perfect example of what's wrong with Modern Star Trek where it's all loud noises and flashy lights with zero style or substance.
Just play the music. LOL. So. Lame.
there is more to it than that.
All the swarm ships are automated drones. They fly in coordinated patterns via a signal transmitted between them, which happened to be in VHF frequencies. Otherwise known as radio. Broadcast something loud and disruptive on those same frequencies, and every one of those drone ships lose the communication their operation depends upon. Technically heavy static or an ear piercing tone would have done the same job,... but a song that is seen as loud and obnoxious does that same job.
What, would you rather hear Lynn Minmei singing "Shao Pai Long" from the Macross?
Sabotage.
Thumbs down due to bad editing and low quality.
This is NOT Star Trek.....
It's very much is. Just written as an action movie. And not the worst kind, definitely better than newest SW...
@@shaftoe195 I agree with you. The Nerada Incident did changed the Federation to take up more arms and offensives in case another threat from the future comes again. Hence, forming a more action version of Star Trek.
Star trek of j.j. Abrams SUCK!! ACK!!
Today is DISCOVERY!! With anson mount as pike!
Wow. It's been a year and nobody, not a single soul, upvoted your opinion. Lmao. Well, I guess STD is just really that bad.
The Jar Jar timeline was a total dismal failure and not one other single movie be made involving it.
your opinion
@@PrototypLetsPlay To some people, their opinion is all that matters.