I bought my pair of ts315 and one ts318s last 2020 and they are still performing 100% without any damage. Thanks to expert island for helping me pick this alto series.
How did you manage crossover as i got a 312 with the new 15 sub i expected the button to be on back like the old one but realised theyve moved it onto the new 4 series speaker
Just ordered a pair of TS15S and a pair of TS412 tops to take with me as mobile DJ. Been using the TS215S and TS215 for 7 years now and never dissapointed me. Ran it up to 175 guests in not to big indoor venues. Great review!
If you want to get a true Sonic experience, you might want to consider pairing your speakers as follows: 8 inch mains with 12 inch subs 10 inch mains with 15 inch subs 12 inch mains with 18 inch subs 15 inch mains with a single 18 or dual 18 inch subs You can technically run speakers however you want. This is just a standard of what sounds best. You want to have a high mid and low frequency driver that cover all spectrums of the frequency range in between the drivers. 😎
I have a pair these Ts18s, a pair of the Ts412 for tops & Ts408 for monitors. Beautiful sound. In the past, I did own JBLs both SRX and MRX and I have played with QSCs, Yorkville, Peavey, etc. I really did underestimated these Altos after I had bought them. But after the first gig, I am not going back breaking my $$$ for JBLs, QSCs, EVs, etc. Best Bang for the bucks. Oh by the way, guys with qsc k12s&12.2, Mackie 215s tops, etc. are always renting them (TS18s) from me. I will post a video of them rumbling in my channel the upcoming weeks.
I have the TS12 and boy that thing BANGS! I tested it side by side with the QSC ks112. Out of the box the TS out ran the QSC in volume. The QSC sounded cleaner at first but keeping in mind the QSC had much lower frequency ranges. Once I put a hi pass filter on the TS12 it almost sounded just as clean and moved a lot more air in the same space. I was blown away! Only gripe is no onboard hi pass filter. The TS18 doesn’t have the vast frequency range the 12 does. Can’t wait to grab one
That’s some awesome feedback brother! Please explain… are you saying you need an external filter to clean up the sound on these or is it just that you have no digital adjustability like the qscs?
@@mallkrawlerz620 yes. The frequency range is something like 38hz - 152hz. That's a lot of amp energy wasted toward higher frequencies on a subwoofer in my opinion. At most you want it up to 120hz. So a nice hi-pass filter of 80hz - 100hz cleans it up so nicely. Great punchiness.
@@jweeventgroup8226 oh man that’s such a bummer. From what I understand alto built the filter settings into their tops and not their woofers. That’s a great way to keep the customers buying their ecosystem. I might shoot for the 15”. That one has a frequency range of up to 110hz which is more commonly what I would set my equipment to.
do you like the musical sound quality? Im debating between this and the mackie sr18s. alto seems louder but mackie has more user control options and outputs🤔
They sure do! I have a pair and used the at my last gig 8/31/2024 and they sounded amazing. The band had all EV speakers and complimented me on the Alto’s. I have QSC’s to but I think I prefer using the ATS415’s. Lastly, I didn’t even need my sub so I left that in the backseat lol👍🏾
Looks great but seems to lack some tuning controls on the back to keep cost low. Does this model have the same woofer driver as the previous Alto TS318s ?
Question, currently have a pair of JBL EON612's that I want to add a sub too, don't need crazy volume, run the speakers at around 30-40% as it is. Just wondering of those that are familiar with the Alto subs, if you were choosing between Alto TS15S or a JBL IRX115S, would the JBL be worth the few extra hundred or is the Alto just as good?
I was looking into the Harbinger V 3412/VS18 combo vs the Alto TS412/TS18 combo. Looks like the Altos have more power and get louder for the same price. I just find it insane the Alto subs don’t have a crossover if I wanted to use other tops. So does the Alto sub always run full range? Which looks like up to 110? Which of those 2 setups would you reccomend for a full rock band that goes all direct including e drums?
Overall it is like Coke vs Pepsi For Sound Quality. for Bells and features you get more with Harbinger, But for over all Sound for a band Alto my be a better choice. For Best sound either way you go Match up the Subwoofers to the Tops.
I just had it 3 months ago, it was really powerful sub, but the downside I noticed so far is that Alto didnt put corner guards, mine got chipped and crack in corners during transport.
Have they removed the crossover on the output? Doesn't say anything on this in the specs. But how can you make the tops perform if they get the full signal? I don't understand. 😅
How to set cross over with EV ETX18 and ZLX12, is there hz setup we can do in the TS18S, like 100hz or 120hz ? worried about corssover interference. Pls guide 🙏
How is this Alto TS18S compared to the similar priced LD Systems ICOA Sub 18 A? I'm finding it very hard to decide! Has anyone tried, tested & compared them both? It would be great to know. Cheers.
I’m looking at the same subs in addition to the mackie sr18s… the icoa is probably what i’ll get as it’s gotten some very positive reviews already and it has a digital adjustments panel/multiple handles. alto has little adjustability and the mackie doesnt boast as high a wattage. I dont know enough about alto but this one is very tempting
I Personal have no sample of the Icoa18A, I would think the Icoa18s but $250 More. I'm basing my opinion on the fact of how good the ICOA15A-BT is over most speakers in the price range. I have to say I do love the sound and power of the TS18s
I want to ask, sir, by the way, which alto TS318 subwoofer and TS18S have good sound results? Regardless of features, which one has good sound results, which really functions as an active subwoofer?
The both sound great, if you have a ts318s no need to run out and get the TS18S, I love the sound and extra power in the TS18s. You would have to spend about $500 More to do better.
The JBL is twice the price. so one for one The JBL Should be better long term. But Dollar for Dollar 2 Alto TS18s is Better then one JBL EON718s any Day.
@@sonny9546don’t get the JBL EONs. Overpriced junk, grab the altos if your on a budget or grab a nice pair of RCFs or QSCs/EV. JBL SRX are nice if you want JBL speakers.
@@expertisland I just listened to Eon 718s and TS18s in real life and the TS18s is much better, it sounds louder and deeper. the JBL distorts very quickly. So for this price range Alto wins.
so they got rid of the intrernal crossover .. which is a shame. I own the Ts315 tops, before that function was introduced to the full range speakers and was actually thinking of getting the sub, but without the crossover point now doesnt make much sense for me. Thaks for the video, I love your in depth overviews!
I have the Alto TS415 2500 watts, I was just wondering if you think that the Bose Sub1 bass module would be compatible ( 480W Class D 7-inch by 13-inch Racetrack driver )
I have my large venue package 2 x 12" EV tops w/ 1 or 2 x 18" subs. Looking for a small venue package. I am torn between Mackie or Alto 15" sub. I have 2 x 8" Mackie thump go's. Do 8" tops go with a 15" sub? If I need to jump to 10", I like the TS410's but the Alto 15" sub is listed at 87 lbs (about 43 kgs) which is heavy for a mobile DJ. What is your opinion or suggestion? Maybe a mix of Ts410's and Mackie 115S? Or the 2 x Thump Go's with the Mackie 115S? n this would be for 50 or less people.
Alto Professional TS18S has only 625W RMS (at 4 Ohms), will a pair of these speakers it be loud enough for a 500+ floor dance party ? I was looking at EV EXT 18SP, that has RMS of 1800 W, but yes, those subs are 3 times as costly than TS18S
hello, greetings from Italy! Does this more powerful model hold up to comparison with the old blak series? I covered alto ts315s 2000 vatt and sold them. because my alto blaks sound much louder and have more precise harmonics. my question is that the blaks are now old, can this model replace them worthily? thank you for your videos, they are very complete and interesting.
@@DJCuhhhstin956 dope thanks I’m asking about 18s harbinger and alto I have the alto 18s shit is beast specially for the price it’s built well looks good just missing high Pass filters. It’s hard to beat this sub
@@Mr.Brolic in this price range, the tsXXs series from alto is just too good. I compared is to the RCF and EV 15's they had at guitar center, for the huge price difference, alto was the clear winner
Surely they have some crossover / low pass built in & aren’t feeding the sub the full range 🤔 Assuming it’s just not offering a hi-pass for the thru outputs & instead you’d do that on the tops.
I bought my pair of ts315 and one ts318s last 2020 and they are still performing 100% without any damage. Thanks to expert island for helping me pick this alto series.
How did you manage crossover as i got a 312 with the new 15 sub i expected the button to be on back like the old one but realised theyve moved it onto the new 4 series speaker
I’ve been having my single TS18 since summer 2023. No complaints. I run 2-TS315s & can definitely rock 100-150 ppl indoors.
🌴 That Great, you have found the right setup for your system and type of music.👍
PS thank you for have my videos in your playlist.😁🌴
Just ordered a pair of TS15S and a pair of TS412 tops to take with me as mobile DJ. Been using the TS215S and TS215 for 7 years now and never dissapointed me. Ran it up to 175 guests in not to big indoor venues. Great review!
How are the Ts15’s compared to the Ts18’s?
If you want to get a true Sonic experience, you might want to consider pairing your speakers as follows:
8 inch mains with 12 inch subs
10 inch mains with 15 inch subs
12 inch mains with 18 inch subs
15 inch mains with a single 18 or dual 18 inch subs
You can technically run speakers however you want. This is just a standard of what sounds best. You want to have a high mid and low frequency driver that cover all spectrums of the frequency range in between the drivers.
😎
I’ve owned 12 inch tops with 15 sub it sounds good
I use 2 x 310s on poles over 2 x 312S subs. I love it.
How do you like them
I have a pair these Ts18s, a pair of the Ts412 for tops & Ts408 for monitors. Beautiful sound. In the past, I did own JBLs both SRX and MRX and I have played with QSCs, Yorkville, Peavey, etc. I really did underestimated these Altos after I had bought them. But after the first gig, I am not going back breaking my $$$ for JBLs, QSCs, EVs, etc. Best Bang for the bucks. Oh by the way, guys with qsc k12s&12.2, Mackie 215s tops, etc. are always renting them (TS18s) from me. I will post a video of them rumbling in my channel the upcoming weeks.
Still love your altos?
@seitonkumokoroye2059
Yessah... They still going strong
I have the TS12 and boy that thing BANGS! I tested it side by side with the QSC ks112. Out of the box the TS out ran the QSC in volume. The QSC sounded cleaner at first but keeping in mind the QSC had much lower frequency ranges. Once I put a hi pass filter on the TS12 it almost sounded just as clean and moved a lot more air in the same space.
I was blown away! Only gripe is no onboard hi pass filter.
The TS18 doesn’t have the vast frequency range the 12 does. Can’t wait to grab one
That’s some awesome feedback brother! Please explain… are you saying you need an external filter to clean up the sound on these or is it just that you have no digital adjustability like the qscs?
@@mallkrawlerz620 yes. The frequency range is something like 38hz - 152hz.
That's a lot of amp energy wasted toward higher frequencies on a subwoofer in my opinion. At most you want it up to 120hz. So a nice hi-pass filter of 80hz - 100hz cleans it up so nicely. Great punchiness.
@@jweeventgroup8226 oh man that’s such a bummer. From what I understand alto built the filter settings into their tops and not their woofers. That’s a great way to keep the customers buying their ecosystem. I might shoot for the 15”. That one has a frequency range of up to 110hz which is more commonly what I would set my equipment to.
Im about to buy a second one. i was very pleased with the performance with mackie tops.
Which Mackies do you have?
do you like the musical sound quality?
Im debating between this and the mackie sr18s.
alto seems louder but mackie has more user control options and outputs🤔
is this good with mackie srm?
I really enjoy your videos bud. I love the Alto brand and have the 2 ts415 tops with the ts415 sub. Great sound
I have 2 of the TS15S's, they fuckin bang!
Sub?
They sure do! I have a pair and used the at my last gig 8/31/2024 and they sounded amazing. The band had all EV speakers and complimented me on the Alto’s. I have QSC’s to but I think I prefer using the ATS415’s. Lastly, I didn’t even need my sub so I left that in the backseat lol👍🏾
Have you done a review on the Alto ts15 subwoofer yet?
I bought a pair of ts15s and have my zlx 12p tops for home karaoke/party, love this sub for price.
Looks great but seems to lack some tuning controls on the back to keep cost low.
Does this model have the same woofer driver as the previous Alto TS318s ?
The driver, just like the amp, has to some upgrades the ts318 would just make 100dB the Ts18 has no problem reaching 120dB.
@@expertisland 20 db louder is huge difference, I own the TS18S and I agree it can reach 120 dbC in real conditions.
I run 2 15" JBL tops off a 1000 watt beringer amp. Would I run my mixer through this sub to my amp?
torn between LD Icoa 18 and this one Alto ts18 . what do you recommend ? .
Icoa is definitely the better sub. Hits lower and cleaner but the TS is right behind it. They both sound great. I have the TS18's by the way.
Would a pair of these adequately pressurize a 60'x60'x12' worship space? Something around 90-100dB peaks at back of house possible in that scenario?
Question, currently have a pair of JBL EON612's that I want to add a sub too, don't need crazy volume, run the speakers at around 30-40% as it is. Just wondering of those that are familiar with the Alto subs, if you were choosing between Alto TS15S or a JBL IRX115S, would the JBL be worth the few extra hundred or is the Alto just as good?
How does this compare with the Harbinger VS18?
Really want to get one of these to go with my ts412’s… don’t really have the space (or use them often enough) at the moment though haha
Rent them when you need them just like a van or truck.
Go for them. No regrets
Would two of these keep up with a pair of jbl prx812’s, one sub & 1 top per side?
You Could but you have to make sure to manage the The Sub to balance the overall power output with the PRX812
Keep up easily...rent mine to guys using JBLs, QSCs, EVs, Mackie, etc
How does the 18s compare to a 12s?can you also make a review of the 12s
can you use this for live band setup?
I was looking into the Harbinger V 3412/VS18 combo vs the Alto TS412/TS18 combo. Looks like the Altos have more power and get louder for the same price. I just find it insane the Alto subs don’t have a crossover if I wanted to use other tops. So does the Alto sub always run full range? Which looks like up to 110?
Which of those 2 setups would you reccomend for a full rock band that goes all direct including e drums?
Overall it is like Coke vs Pepsi For Sound Quality. for Bells and features you get more with Harbinger, But for over all Sound for a band Alto my be a better choice. For Best sound either way you go Match up the Subwoofers to the Tops.
The speaker use button sets your crossover….kinda sorta 😂😂
I just had it 3 months ago, it was really powerful sub, but the downside I noticed so far is that Alto didnt put corner guards, mine got chipped and crack in corners during transport.
That Sucks 😞Sorry to hear, that Did you have the Covers?
No I haven’t got the cover, Instead, I installed corner guards at the back corners of the sub
You should use the points on back for casters, might save the corners better, and definitely cover them.
Have they removed the crossover on the output? Doesn't say anything on this in the specs. But how can you make the tops perform if they get the full signal? I don't understand. 😅
TS4 top's have an integrated low cut.
Hello sir can you do a review of the Laney Subwoofer?I want to know if they are also capable subs?Cheers
How to set cross over with EV ETX18 and ZLX12, is there hz setup we can do in the TS18S, like 100hz or 120hz ? worried about corssover interference. Pls guide 🙏
Can you put them with other speakers
How is the Alto TS18S compared to the Alto Black 18?
I have the 12 inch of the sub, and it's too overpowering. What can I do to lower the bass?
maybe put it in 'Flat' mode and keep power knob turned low? I was curious how the 12" version sounds
Can i put two turbosound iq15 with these
Can you make rewiel for ts12s ?
Would this be better than a ELX200-18S 18" Passive Subwoofer
from the spec sheet the alto has higher spl and will hit deeper…but it also weighs a fair bit more.
How is this Alto TS18S compared to the similar priced LD Systems ICOA Sub 18 A?
I'm finding it very hard to decide!
Has anyone tried, tested & compared them both?
It would be great to know.
Cheers.
I’m looking at the same subs in addition to the mackie sr18s…
the icoa is probably what i’ll get as it’s gotten some very positive reviews already and it has a digital adjustments panel/multiple handles.
alto has little adjustability and the mackie doesnt boast as high a wattage.
I dont know enough about alto but this one is very tempting
I Personal have no sample of the Icoa18A, I would think the Icoa18s but $250 More. I'm basing my opinion on the fact of how good the ICOA15A-BT is over most speakers in the price range. I have to say I do love the sound and power of the TS18s
I have an older TS218 & the Sub output from it is amazing.
I still want to hear the much newer TS18.
I want to ask, sir, by the way, which alto TS318 subwoofer and TS18S have good sound results? Regardless of features, which one has good sound results, which really functions as an active subwoofer?
The both sound great, if you have a ts318s no need to run out and get the TS18S, I love the sound and extra power in the TS18s. You would have to spend about $500 More to do better.
thank you sir, your answer helps me to make a choice, hopefully I can get the TS18S, I want to pair it with the TS415S
Once you test it outdoors, sir, to hear its maximum performance😊😅😊
Are they better than the JBL EON 718S ?
The JBL is twice the price. so one for one The JBL Should be better long term. But Dollar for Dollar 2 Alto TS18s is Better then one JBL EON718s any Day.
@@sonny9546don’t get the JBL EONs. Overpriced junk, grab the altos if your on a budget or grab a nice pair of RCFs or QSCs/EV. JBL SRX are nice if you want JBL speakers.
@@expertisland I just listened to Eon 718s and TS18s in real life and the TS18s is much better, it sounds louder and deeper. the JBL distorts very quickly.
So for this price range Alto wins.
so they got rid of the intrernal crossover .. which is a shame. I own the Ts315 tops, before that function was introduced to the full range speakers and was actually thinking of getting the sub, but without the crossover point now doesnt make much sense for me.
Thaks for the video, I love your in depth overviews!
Ive done this 🤦 now im stuck on how to cross them over
@@ryanweston4054 external dsp
I have Behringer B115Ds and use the low frequency tone control to roll off frequencies to be handled by the sub.
I have the Alto TS415 2500 watts, I was just wondering if you think that the Bose Sub1 bass module would be compatible ( 480W Class D 7-inch by 13-inch Racetrack driver )
It will work if you like the Bose or already have one No Problem.
Bose Sub 1 is undersized for TS415, even Sub 2 will not keep up, you need an 18" sub
@@sonny9546 Thank you for ur reply..my other question is what happen if I still use my Sub 1 Bose?
I got 2 Sub 1 Bose
@@expertisland Thank u for ur reply.
I’m inbetween 4 AltoTs18s or 2 QSC KS112
I have my large venue package 2 x 12" EV tops w/ 1 or 2 x 18" subs. Looking for a small venue package. I am torn between Mackie or Alto 15" sub. I have 2 x 8" Mackie thump go's. Do 8" tops go with a 15" sub? If I need to jump to 10", I like the TS410's but the Alto 15" sub is listed at 87 lbs (about 43 kgs) which is heavy for a mobile DJ. What is your opinion or suggestion? Maybe a mix of Ts410's and Mackie 115S? Or the 2 x Thump Go's with the Mackie 115S? n this would be for 50 or less people.
If your looking for a small setup, get the Alto Ts408. I use these with my Bose Sub2's. Lightest 8 inch speaker and lightest sub.
@@DJBpartyTV how many people is that good for? I
Am looking for less than 50 guests.
@@djaga4404 I've done 250 kids with that system in a basketball gym
Alto Professional TS18S has only 625W RMS (at 4 Ohms), will a pair of these speakers it be loud enough for a 500+ floor dance party ? I was looking at EV EXT 18SP, that has RMS of 1800 W, but yes, those subs are 3 times as costly than TS18S
You will for sure need more power and more quantity like 4 double 18s if this is a one of show rent.
I think you’re confused. the ts is 1200 rms 2400 max. And the ev is 1800 max 900 rms.
"only"...
@@unatizia_tarocca 600 isn’t very much considering that speakers of that size are averaging around the 1000 mark
in the rewl world is it stronger then alto ts318s?
I'm going to say yes, if you already have the TS318 no rush to trade them in till there 3 years old.
ts18s or behringer B1800XP???
Alto
hello, greetings from Italy! Does this more powerful model hold up to comparison with the old blak series? I covered alto ts315s 2000 vatt and sold them. because my alto blaks sound much louder and have more precise harmonics. my question is that the blaks are now old, can this model replace them worthily? thank you for your videos, they are very complete and interesting.
Ts18s about the same power maybe a little more 50watts No app but much better price point.
❤@@expertisland
How does this sub compare to the new harbinger 18 sub?
Better in every aspect. I have 2 of the 15"s, i had to use just 1 at a previous event cuz the bass was just too damn strong with 2
@@DJCuhhhstin956 dope thanks I’m asking about 18s harbinger and alto I have the alto 18s shit is beast specially for the price it’s built well looks good just missing high Pass filters. It’s hard to beat this sub
@@Mr.Brolic in this price range, the tsXXs series from alto is just too good. I compared is to the RCF and EV 15's they had at guitar center, for the huge price difference, alto was the clear winner
Alto claims 137dB out of this sub. That's more output than subs costing 3X as much?
FACTS. ❤
what is the RMS for this subwoofer?????????
He said realistically 1250. Although he didn’t test it.
Could not find it any were in the paper word or Manual. based on how they get the wattage in the past model I would say 1250w d-class power amp.
@@expertisland thank you
the rms value in my opinion is cheap, you should listen to it live and maybe test it in spl values
Someone should dyno test it. I'm sure it's good, but realistically, maybe 500w actual rms.
No internal crossover?
They moved the feature to the main speakers.
Surely they have some crossover / low pass built in & aren’t feeding the sub the full range 🤔
Assuming it’s just not offering a hi-pass for the thru outputs & instead you’d do that on the tops.
@@expertislandso is the sub playing the full range then? How does the sub know only to do the low end if the crossover happens after?
@@aquateen777 (-3 dB): 29 - 100 Hz and (-10 dB): 27 - 111 Hz so it cut probably at 110Hz
I was searching ts318s and then noticed the ts18s came out... couldnt find any info on them but i said f it... and bought 4.
How are you liking them?? I'm heavily debating them just because I can get two of them for the cost of one of the others I've been looking at.
👍👍👍
Thank you.😀