Know Your Couplings!
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2012
- From Kadee couplings and large tension locks to Fleischmann hooks and proprietary couplings used on the Virgin Pendolino, this video takes a look at them all. And helps us all to never get confused about these small but essental bits of the hobby.
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An example to all of us as to how a RUclips vid should be made/edited. Well done.
A very well presented fantastic documentrry showing couplers - well done
Now that was informative..
Having GWR outline stuff with a range of tension couplers. I regularly have issues with them derailing wagons when shunting over 2nd radius points. Or not un-coupling properly over the uncoupling mounds (or what ever they are called). This short video has really help clear a few things up.
Great informative video Will. As always your videos are a joy to watch, you explain things in good detail filling in all the blanks, and any questions people may have.No wonder you have some many subscribers.A pleasure to watch,a joy to see your sets in action, and better still always a joy to know when you're up-loading a new one.
Very interesting ... but I am so glad we have standard "Knuckle Couplers" in this country. This is what the Kadee Couplers are based on ... thank goodness! Cheers!
Great video, very informative and certainly answered all my questions. Thank you.
Excellent video, very informative and well shot. Also pleasant tone. Thanks
This is a very good information clip. well done. do more as it is use full for new and beginner to our hobby. well done again.
I enjoyed your video very much
I am 64 yeas old and after a 40 year break from model railways i have returned to build an L.M.S oo gauge layout in my garage.It goes to show that you are never to old to restart in this great hpbby of ours.
I am in the process of converting all my rolling stock to Kadee NEM plug-in couplers and also "Whisker" couplers.
On the whole, converting NEM rolling stock is quite easy, but converting non NEM rolling stock i have found to be quite challenging.
Martin Guyat
Great video! Great to know some more stuff about couplings despite thinking I knew a lot already
Very well presented Will. Good job :)
Nice! Very informative, and nice to see you got some suitable stock for the Dash 8
using other peoples photos does not breach copyright when used in that way, unless you claim to have made it yourself or if you tried to sell it.
Excellent explanation many thanks!
I must say this is one of your best :-)
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@NewChannels thanks for the comment! Yes, the new layout uses cork underlay. Definitely better than the foam stuff I think.
@coolibahrail thanks, yes I realise that but in the UK when people switch to knuckle couplers, 9 times out of 10 it's Kadee couplers they switch to. (most people simply stick with tension locks)
As a kid. I nailed my tracks into a cork base. Otherwise, The track would slide apart at full speed. That was a long time ago (1980's) and they probably make better rail connections by now. Miss my old train set. It was impressive back then. Enjoyed the video.
@benjokazooie thanks for the feedback! And you're welcome!
Excellent vid! Showing & explaining some great info there! =)
@MrBrit4l it sure is!! A very keen eye you have! Strong in you the force is!
@ClassA4Mallard thank you for the feedback!
@MysteriousKiwi Last year I did a video stating that videos on my new layout would start this Spring - and this Spring it will be. I'm in no rush - this is the hobby of a lifetime! :P
@CavanRail001 thank you for the feedback! I shall do my best to keep the vids coming. It's hard sometimes - I can get pretty busy. But at least some people are patient!
great video my friend.
once someone explains it to you and shows you the various types of couplings, its actually very simple.
its definatley made me understand the different types and what the are for.
many thans
@JACKRAIL37001 using Photoshop, the drawings were clear and crisp enough for its smart select tool to isolate each sketch, and then the white background was replaced with the IC82 trademark blue.
I just got a hornby pendolino helpe please ic82 can you uncouple and couple the train or when you couple it it has to stay like that
thanks for the kind comment!
@jasonandjoesrailway thanks for the comment! I must admit it did take some time to make haha
I am wanting to change my mk3 carriage couplings ( specifically the royal coaches and virgin coaches ) they have a slot for changing couplings but I can't seem to find any slimmer couplings that will fit
@panniertankboy8751 Indeed! I shall be doing a video on the American rolling stock soon.
When I first started in this hobby about 3 years ago & a bit green on what was what, I ended up with a hole bunch of rolling stock with every variation of coupler know to mankind. With a bit of research I decided to bite the bullet & convert all stock to the Kadee type couplers. Its taken a while at some expense, but I have found the challenge rewarding & the results of better coupling performance worthwhile.
In the process I have also swapped all my plastic wheeled rolling stock to Intermountain metal wheels. That upgrade has also been worthwhile. If you convert your stock over time the expense side of it is not so painful.
Nice video!...just out of curiosity, why does the ES44 there have LMS on the side? does LMS actually have GE locomotives or is it just a love for LMS? looks like it was Conrail 8098 NS heritage unit?
@ReyoNeutra thanks for the feedback!
5:30 Looks very much like my Marklin ICE 2 type couplers. Jolly good show mate :)
I have had problems with couplings. A small tention lock coulping on a Bachmann 56xx and again small tention lock couplings on Hornby coachs, they derail all the time on standard radius 1 curves. Why?
Wow!!! You guys have a whole bunch of different couplers on your side of the pond. In the US we pretty much only deal with Knuckle couplers and the X2F Horn Hook couplers (Usually swapped out as soon as possible for Kadee (or similar) Knuckles).
Brilliant quote in there - "That's the great thing about standards...there's lots of them!"
How old is the locomotive in question?
@Whizzer1 in the UK, when people switch to 'knuckle couplers', 9 times out of 10 it's Kadees they go for. I tried to trim the video down to just what the British modeller needs to know.
How do you change, replace the Pendolino couplings. Anyone done this?
@MrJezza31 it was not an easy video to make! (as you can probably imagine) but thank you. I tried my best.
@Lavapit2457 I have no plans to look at that set just yet but I'm sure someone else will do a review of it (if they haven't already done so)
In the days before propriety couplings modellers just "wired" their DMU / EMU ? coach rakes together using homebrew brass wire hooks and loops to achieve very close coupling.
You missed out 3 link / screw link (prototypical) that is commonplace on a large number of 00 / P4 / EM layouts where the sight of any unrealistic massive tension lock coupling is seen as detracting from the visual effect.
And don't forget "Sprat and Winkle" descrete automatic couplings for those railway modellers who find 3 link couplings going a tad to far for realism.
To us older railway modellers the tension lock couplings are still refered to as Airfix (small), Mainline / Bachmann (medium) and Triang Mark.3. or simply Triang (large).
Can't remember what make my first train set was but it wasn't Triang - Hornby, however it was fitted with buckeye couplings - as we say in the UK. Around the mid 1960s.
Hello i have a question, can you put Marklin couplings on Marklin rolling stock?
Thanks in advance. TDMK
I looked today to remind me of the Pendolino, but you didn't show the " act of coupling/uncoupling these", which is what I wanted to check!
Great video
@hornbytrains125 Because if you look carefully, you will see that the coupling overlaps, locks, then proceeds to derail the train. Either you can go for the less ugly option and put Bachmann tension locks on all stock, or the ugly one, and go for Hornby couplings on the Bachmann model, they're interchangeable.
@lukianzio lol thanks for the comment!
How can you convert older Hornby rolling stock that don't have NEM sockets to Kadees/E-Z mates?
For what you call the Kadee coupler it is actually called Kadee as it is a brand of knukle couplers. The one you showed in the video is called the McHenery coupler.
Great vid learned alot. Thank you
@Trainmaster909 that's true but when people in the UK switch to that type of coupler, in 99% of cases it is the Kadee they switch to.
Here in the US it's pretty much only Kadee couplers and knock-offs, though there's plenty of stuff floating around with ancient "horn-hook" couplers that were used before - though nowadays if you wind up with them, the first thing anyone does is toss them out and install Kadees. (Railroad couplers in the US are actually standardized unlike what I saw traveling in Europe, which as far as I can tell was "anything goes". Also, Kadee couplers may look very odd to a lot of the world, but they're very accurate to the ubiquitous North American Knuckle Coupler.) You're also far better off with actual Kadee couplers as well, any other cheaper knuckle couplers I've come across tend to fail (usually because they're plastic, while actual Kadees are metal) and are just generally asking for trouble.
In my experience, Bachmann's EZ-Mate and Accurail's Accu-mate couplers are some of the worst offenders. I run long trains, and I've had those plastic EZ-Mate couplers straight-up break trying to pull trains. The Accu-mate couplers just tend to come uncoupled when you don't want them to and aren't reliable.
One other interesting thing I've heard is that Bachmann stuff in Europe is actually decent quality. Is that true? Because the vast majority of what the sell in the US market is almost universally considered complete and utter garbage over here, I know a hobby shop that actually refuses to sell their stuff because of the quality.
@toffie702 definitely! I got sent some wagons and have yet to do a video on them.
will you do a review of the bachmann level crossing
Hi, Your video was very helpful in understanding about couplings. I have a Hornby Frederick Harrison Steam Locomotive, but iam unable to fix the Hornby close coupling to the rear side, would appreciate if you could tell me how to fix if possible.
@hornbytrains125 Those couplings are graded for (like many locos from Hornby & Bachmann & even Dapol) for Radius 2 curves. I had a 56xx & I found it was very happy on 2nd radius. It's just the way the locos & the couplings work
@Y2Jyr it looks lovely doesn't it!?! I think I will have to.
@Bero12300 I got sent some actually! (and bought some too) So yeah I'll do a video on that.
@BulletAchemist spot on!
@traindriver1225 that's true but when people in the UK switch to that type of coupler, in 99% of cases it is the Kadee they switch to.
As I type this i'm off school ill, but you just gave a great lesson there:) i'm subscribing, well done!!:)
I've been wondering where my pen went. How it got all the way across the pond, though,
I don't know...
@trainscrazy thanks Jake!
@agachocho you're welcome!
@thetrainkid1 I did research 3link/hook&chain couplings but as they're not 'automatic' and have to be manually coupled and uncoupled I felt them being in the video wasn't really necessary. Indeed many people do use them but they're no where near as common as the automatic couplings I look at in the video.
InterCity82 Aap
@BritishRailways60163 thank you my friend!
Can you change the coupling types please respond i need help
dear IC82 will you be getting the West Coast Railways Pullman train pack?
@minecraftchannel10 I sure do! Although I haven't played it in months.
Another excellent vid Will....& another great idea to video too. I have loco's with all the couplings you mentioned & used drawings as examples....I can send you some real photos should you wish?
Kind regards, John.
The medium tension locks on the Bachmann Thomas range are good.
Knuckle/buckeye couplers (of which there are makers other than Kadee) are only good-looking on American-outline stock tbh. They're what you'd see on them IRL, which is why the Tri-Ang models of American stock have those dummy knuckle couplers.
Tension-lock couplings aren't realistic, but they're reliable and less fiddly than the realistic-looking H & N or Spratt & Winkle type of coupling. At the small size of HO/OO models, they're also much more reliable and durable than buckeye couplings. And with the Kirby method they can even be magnetically uncoupled.
Thanks. Most interesting:-)
great vid , could you do evan just a short clip of the american locomotive i fortgot the name now but of it running with its coaches or wagons?
I have done some of the coupler swapping myself. It would depend on how the horn hook is attached. If it has a small pin sized hole you can get through Walthers some knuckles to switch out with. If it has the larger hole you can get knuckles from Bachmann or use Kadee #5 couplers.
@JAC4468 that was actually a premium Class 8F by Hornby and its fake coal load is easily removed.
Very intresting well done.Is the websiteup and running yet?
@EWSclass66 the IC82 website will reveal that when it goes live (planned for a big Easter launch)
@DanielBurt217 lol good aren't they!?
is the pendolino coupling a NEM coupling as they call them
the couples are actually called knuckle couplers that are made by kadee. Other brands make them it’s just Kadee’s are the best for them being metal
@Trainmaster909 yeah they are the NMRA standard. they are also really nice couplers.
About the Kadee coupler, The reason they have their taken shape is because they are used in the continent of North America, and Australia. So they have accurate coupling shapes. However, your Dash-8 has Bachmann E-Z mate knuckle (true name for Kadee, which is a company name) couplers/couplings that follow the NMRA (National Model Railroading Association {Of north America}) but don't worry, they have nearly the same standards of the NEM. Respond.
From,
Trainmaster909
FYI, you spoke about magnets under track to operate Kadee couplings, but you can very easily and cheaply modify the humble tension lock coupler to also use under track magnet uncoupling. Look up what has become known as the 'Kirby Uncoupler', non-ferrous hooks available from PH Designs.
Hope someone finds that useful.
Funnily enough, the Pacer proprietary coupling is the same as on either end of the APT power car. I actually ran the Pacer with the APT power car in the middle once. It was pretty funny looking. (My Pacer is the older version with two driving cars)
@wtierce1 that's true but when people in the UK switch to that type of coupler, in 99% of cases it is the Kadee they switch to.
For more realism, I do recomend converting all couplings to KDs, because I have the new flying Scotsman and I wanted to run her with some of my Australian Rollingstock to replicate Aus Steam 88' in a way. So opa few weekends and all 14 of my british locos, all 35 coaches and all 67 wagons that were British in my collection were converted to KDs. Just thought I'd share that.
i saw some transfers building airfix? looks like control tower
They're OK to be honest. Great if you leave the train on the layout 24/7 - not so great if you need to keep taking it off at the end of a session. The biggest problem is if they get damaged. It often means a call to Bachmann for a replacement!
When it comes to the tension lock couplings, I only feel comfortable using Large or Medium. The small ones really bother me because they have always derailed my trains. They may look nicer, but my layouts have always had trouble with them, even if the bends aren't that sharp.
What radius are your bends?
nutfield001 I don't know, my old layout was pulled up so I could rebuild it somewhere else. The outer "main line" bends weren't particularly sharp (4-6-2s could travel along it without issue), but sharp enough to cause problems with narrow couplings.
Have you seen the Hornby international Schanferberg couplers, there a working 00 gauge version of multiple unit couplings that look ver realistic, you may hve seen them on dapols class 156 and 153 in N-gauge, its really the same principle
Thank You IC 82
what happned to the couplings?
I use kadee couplings do you? IC82 does not
I never heard the frase k d coupling. Is that just a European term for knuckle couplings?
Kadee couplers are a brand of knuckle couplers.
@jacobporrett planning a big launch at Easter
Nice vid lol I prefer the old Bach Ann ones because they hold the wagons close together