I usually am on board with most of Fred's takes, but the idea that JJ McCarthy, the 5th quarterback taken last year who has had two meniscus surgeries in that same time frame, would fetch more in a trade than the #1 overall pick this year is just patently insane and a terrible take
Yes, bottom line is, the 1st pick in the draft will always have SOME value because it is THE MOST valuable pick in the draft and teams will target a handful of guys they want - if they have to move up, they'll try.
Bro… these radio guys can’t even get thoughts out. Your job is your voice and you stumble over you shit all the time. Theses guys are hard to listen to uiu
Tennessee, Giants, Raiders and the Jets realistically all need a QB. If we can get a top pick or even 2/3 we can have someone trade up and give the pats the BAG
ABSOLUTELY! Too many desperate owners and desperate GMs looking to save their jobs! A QB is worth BILLIONS to an NFL owner! Trust and believe someone will give up at least 2 1s and 2 2s! That’s the minimum!
@@DMKFACTORBingo!!! It's the same thing every year. The Pickett draft was the only time it didn't happen. Other than that, the QB hype train will just keep growing until the draft..
@@DMKFACTOR A QB who ends up a 'franchise QB' is worth "BILLIONS". SF gave up a FORTUNE in picks for Trey Lance - how'd that work out? Chicago coughed up a TON as well for Trubisky - how'd that work out. Sometimes trading up for QB works for the team acquiring the rookie QB, most of the time, it doesn't.
“What is the value of the first pick this season” is the wrong question. The question is, “what is the value in a 4th win this season given that you were eliminated from playoff contention months ago.”
The thing theyre not taking into account is that the giants, raiders, browns, etc aren't negotiating with US for the #1 pick. They're negotiating with each other. They're bidding against THEMSELVES. The math is simple. There's 2 QBs in this draft and there's only 1 team not named Tennessee that can get one. Any offer the patriots receive will instantly be sent to every other suiter, and the price will only go up. There WILL be a bidding war because the modern nfl is built off desperation for elite QB play, and especially front offices on thin ice will sell the farm to try to save their jobs. Cleveland, both New York teams, Vegas, even the saints could go all in. This trade wont happen until mid april and the longer things go on, the better. 2 #1s and a kicker is the MINIMUM we're gonna get if we can just manage to lose in Sunday
One thing is for sure with this organization...they will get about 1/2 of what they should...knowing Pats they will exchange 1st rounders..Pats will settle and get another 2 or 3 rather than a 1st rounder next year which is what they should get.
Lmao if I was the Vikings I would be sitting great actually and thanking god that we didn’t give up that for pic 3 I don’t see us drafting maye at 3 regardless 😂 I think pats fans have really thought everyone wanted maye 😂
Everyone ( talking heads FELGER ) was so for trading the pick last year when we could’ve had DRAKE MAYE, this year we got a top 2/3 pick we DEF trade this pick for everything and more get a WR get picks and more forward with the FA signings and draft picks
This whole conversation relies on us knowing who are best college players and what position they play. Pats should unashamedly tank and invest everything in o-ine in draft/FA whatever...make can raise all other boats on offence...
I’m totally convinced Fred’s got alcohol on his jug every morning.
Bingo!
I usually am on board with most of Fred's takes, but the idea that JJ McCarthy, the 5th quarterback taken last year who has had two meniscus surgeries in that same time frame, would fetch more in a trade than the #1 overall pick this year is just patently insane and a terrible take
JJ had one surgery and an injection, he's better than Sanders , Ward , and Milroe
It is so hard to listen to Fred fumble through this! He’s completely clueless!
Get him off the radio! Holy crap how did he get into this industry lol 🤣
He always seems like that
9:49 Bert’s Face…. I’m not getting paid enough to be in this show.
😂😂😂, they need to get fred out of this show .
McCarthy might be worth a day 2 pick at most. Fred is a buffoon.
Why discuss value: the Pats will mess up and win Sunday.
Update: that happened
Sounds like mayo is going to screw us one last time a beat the bills and ruin our future
10000% just to “ build a winning culture” and keep his job + Eliot wolfs makes a horrible decision in the draft and FA
fred sucks. He is just a miserable person, who wants everyone miserable. Making an argument for not valuing the number 1 pick lol
Yes, bottom line is, the 1st pick in the draft will always have SOME value because it is THE MOST valuable pick in the draft and teams will target a handful of guys they want - if they have to move up, they'll try.
Bro… these radio guys can’t even get thoughts out. Your job is your voice and you stumble over you shit all the time. Theses guys are hard to listen to uiu
Tennessee, Giants, Raiders and the Jets realistically all need a QB. If we can get a top pick or even 2/3 we can have someone trade up and give the pats the BAG
Desperation raises the value. Just watch.. ☕
ABSOLUTELY! Too many desperate owners and desperate GMs looking to save their jobs! A QB is worth BILLIONS to an NFL owner! Trust and believe someone will give up at least 2 1s and 2 2s! That’s the minimum!
@@DMKFACTORBingo!!! It's the same thing every year. The Pickett draft was the only time it didn't happen. Other than that, the QB hype train will just keep growing until the draft..
@@DMKFACTOR A QB who ends up a 'franchise QB' is worth "BILLIONS". SF gave up a FORTUNE in picks for Trey Lance - how'd that work out? Chicago coughed up a TON as well for Trubisky - how'd that work out. Sometimes trading up for QB works for the team acquiring the rookie QB, most of the time, it doesn't.
hardy knows he can just chill cuz bert and fred won’t let anyone else say a word. at least he’s getting paid to be there
Can we fire Fred too
Dont think anybody with cred said JJ mcarthry was the best QB in the draft. 😅
The true value is more than any other pick in the draft
JJ was the bane of Michigan fan’s existence when he played for them. Anyone who thinks he is or was the best QB in the draft is delusional as fuck.
“What is the value of the first pick this season” is the wrong question. The question is, “what is the value in a 4th win this season given that you were eliminated from playoff contention months ago.”
The thing theyre not taking into account is that the giants, raiders, browns, etc aren't negotiating with US for the #1 pick. They're negotiating with each other. They're bidding against THEMSELVES.
The math is simple. There's 2 QBs in this draft and there's only 1 team not named Tennessee that can get one. Any offer the patriots receive will instantly be sent to every other suiter, and the price will only go up. There WILL be a bidding war because the modern nfl is built off desperation for elite QB play, and especially front offices on thin ice will sell the farm to try to save their jobs. Cleveland, both New York teams, Vegas, even the saints could go all in.
This trade wont happen until mid april and the longer things go on, the better. 2 #1s and a kicker is the MINIMUM we're gonna get if we can just manage to lose in Sunday
ANY sports take with Fred Toucher in it is a freaken joke! Poor Bert Breer...He should have alcohol in that DD coffee cup for sure!
You really going to trust this carnival cast to get 4 or 5 picks for a 1st pick...lol.
Why wouldn’t they be able to . But wouldn’t they say more about the value of the prospects?
One thing is for sure with this organization...they will get about 1/2 of what they should...knowing Pats they will exchange 1st rounders..Pats will settle and get another 2 or 3 rather than a 1st rounder next year which is what they should get.
What do yall know lmao 😂
Lmao if I was the Vikings I would be sitting great actually and thanking god that we didn’t give up that for pic 3 I don’t see us drafting maye at 3 regardless 😂 I think pats fans have really thought everyone wanted maye 😂
Everyone ( talking heads FELGER ) was so for trading the pick last year when we could’ve had DRAKE MAYE, this year we got a top 2/3 pick we DEF trade this pick for everything and more get a WR get picks and more forward with the FA signings and draft picks
You are a 🤡
You don't know if anyone is trading for the pick at all especially #1, no one is trading for #1 in this garbage draft for 2 bum QBs
I don't really understand why people are so down on Sanders and Ward.
So far from the draft. Give it two months and the hype train will be hitting top speed
@mikemartins449 I guess I just don't get what makes them bad prospects. They both played pretty elite ball this season.
Because they’re running backs, not QBs. Both will be out of the league in 2-3 years
@@193ksp they both have like 4k passing yards this season. You have no clue what you're talking about.
People were super down on Jayden this far out as well I remember it well, I think cam is going to fly up boards
Winding up with hunter absolutely would be a consolation prize...if that's all we get out of that pick it would be a catastrophic failure
This whole conversation relies on us knowing who are best college players and what position they play.
Pats should unashamedly tank and invest everything in o-ine in draft/FA whatever...make can raise all other boats on offence...
Fred is trying hard to sh*t on the Patriots drafting first.
Obviously being last in the league..Kraft'know better..lol
Stick to talking about lame ass bands, Fred!😂😂😂