So weird that people keep saying this. Andbox with yay was massively miles away from what peak optic was, and after the optic era, nrg was still able to go top 4 in Masters Tokyo. They literally helped each other to reach the top but even without yay, the teams that FNS was leading were still top tier. yay needed FNS (and the optic core) not the other way around.
@@jesther2575 for added info FNS had been playing with yay professionally since 2018, so its no surprise yay worked best with FNS. even in his csgo days he wasnt a standout either, sometimes he botfragged while feenis topfragged
exactly, they're using every excuse they could think of, first "dont let Yay play Viper/Copntroller he should play duelist" then when he played duelist its the same result they blame coaching staff, IGL etc what they dont realize was Bleed thought pacific is weak and Yay would dominate/stomp them that if they let him play Viper/Controller he would always get multikill or clutch because Viper/Controller most of the time are the last man standing
They just went 0-10 against RRQ today and then lost both games. It looked horrific. Don't know if it's a language barrier, lack of confidence, or what.
While confidence plays a huge part. If u know anything about valorant and pay close attention u can see the mid rounding on the team is brutal. Watching bleed on attack is a difficult experience. yays best performances are when he kind of just runs at the enemy without a igl set idea. like the ace against zeta today.
I really want yay to bounce back man. No matter how many games he loses, he will still be my goat and I'll always support him no matter what team he's on.
Unlikely. Not impossible but unlikely. Mostly because the scene is being injected by young talent with better twitch reflex. Esports is like that. Would love to be proven wrong though.
@@proverbialking3452 i think with the right team, he can make a comeback. not with bleed. bleed is always always fking clueless. bleed games makes my gold, plat lobby games more bearable to watch. I'm just hoping fujan comes back and help yay with his comeback arc.
I support Yay not because of his crazy stats or his Reykjavik win but because of his humility and very down-to-earth charisma. Dude has legit had some very bad family issues but still chooses to smile and just say "eh, what can we do boys" and then just carry on. Not many people know about his character but rather go on bashing about his poor performance. He is not the GOAT for his performance but for what his heart truly is.
@@dorutoxd8483 That's 1 dumbass clip that "genghsta" or however you spell that restard's name, put out. He was literally laughing after an important comm was given by Yay, I'd be mad too and act the same way he did
I need less y0y and more Yay. Seriously tho, Yay is one of the main reasons I ever became a content creator. Optic was my favorite team ever. I hadn't been so invested in a team since the Chargers and Philip Rivers. I never even was big on Esports, I just enjoyed playing val on my free time. I then felt like I needed to talk about Valorant to someone other than myself, so yeah thanks Yay and Optic boys. Whether Yay returns to form or not I'll always be a fan of him.
It broke my heart to watch BLEED loose to RRQ with a 0-2 loss. its just sad to see yay loose so bad man. I wasn't a big fan of him in his prime but now i miss the chamber meta and yay.
great video, i don’t know if you have one on yet, but I would recommend a de-esser vocal effect on your voiceovers if possible as the S/TSS sounds in this video were pretty harsh constantly
Please make a vid on Wardell as Idk much about (I started playing val a lil later than everyone) ppl say he was goated but idk much about and seeing his current state he doesnt look like he was a big player so please make a vid on him will clear my info on him thanks
like any NA player he was hyped for absolutely no reason and never performed well with tsm bc of some inside reasons maybe? currently he's just another streaming grinding ranked
In my opinion, Yay a good player with a certain agent. Because there aren't many agents He uses. Even as a Duelist, he only often uses Jett. When Chamber appeared, he became very dependent on Chamber. But after Chamber got nerfed, he seemed to be dissappeared until now.
That’s like many top duelists tho. If Raze received a nerf as hard as chamber did, you would see pros like zekken and jing who rely on their knowledge of the agent decline in performance. Some characters fit peoples playstyles more than others that’s the no fault of the players there’s no denying Yays peak was the highest we’ve ever seen
@johnyom2062 Yeah, Yay was once in that peaks performance. Indeed, it all depends on the character of the player. But, if you compare it with other, Yay doesn't look as flexible as the others. At least we still see Zekken or Jing playing with agents other than Raze or Jett more often. On Team Bleed now, Yay just trying it. Playing with Viper, Skye, even Raze. But it does take time.
@johnyom2062 Yeah, Yay was once in that peaks performance. Indeed, it all depends on the character of the player. But, if you compare it with other, Yay doesn't look as flexible as the others. At least we still see Zekken or Jing playing with agents other than Raze or Jett more often. On Team Bleed now, Yay just trying it. Playing with Viper, Skye, even Raze. But it does take time.
@@johnyom2062that makes absolutely no sense, raze isn't unhealthy to the meta, old chamber gave the edge to everyone playing him, the worst of all chamber merchants is y0y but that doesn't mean he's the only one (taco etc), if you deleted raze, keznit and jingg would still drop high stats in other duelists (like they've done before), while yay couldn't even do that well with Jett having some of the best players supporting him at the time also aspas clears him
@@firezera riot doesn’t nerf off of balance they nerf them off percentage played in rank. Raze is essentially played every map so there’s a good chance she will catch another nerf. Also the DSG team that you say was supporting him is nowhere near the T1 level. His performance on C9 is the best gauge due to no language barrier like now on Bleed.
He was the real deal but he needs the right team. This is how it was in cs and before Optic. He was able to pop off as duelist on Envy and was solid on Andbox. Disguised as a bad situation bc it was so last second and basically EVERYONE on bleed speaks a different language so its just doomed to fail. Can't wait to see him come back to NA and go to M80/some other tier 2 team that he can actually prac with.
Bleed are terrible on attack so they always loose in close fashion. Yay is not the issue. how can a duelist be expected to drop numbers if their is 3 people waiting on the site he is going to. IF they fix that their fighting for mid table.
Aside from the kickoff tournament, this first season split has been looking fairly good for Yay individually. He looks and plays much more composed and confident just like he did in 2022, and on raze of all agents. While his talent and skill are definitely not gone, the team he’s on definitely is having its struggles with role issues, confidence, leadership, etc. And you can see it in the games they’ve played: aside from the micro mistakes, Bleed often get outplayed in the mid round and suffer dramatically as a result. Aside from sScary being new to IGLing and therefore being inexperienced, I think a lot of issues stem from both language barriers and also the many different cultures coming onto one team.
I agree completly he played very well today. one not great map but decent overall. sScary does not have a good grasp of reading rotations or stacks or pulling roatations on t side. They suffer completely from not being able to get enough rounds on attack resulting to them loosing in close fashion even when the get off to a really bad start on attack. If they could fix that theyd be able to compete with the likes of talon ts zeta or ge. hopefully they do
@@LukeSawardMusic Bottom fragging every time? He only bottom fragged against Zeta, their most recent match. And even then, within that match, Yay had 14 FKs and FBs, so he’s obviously still doing his job on the team. I’m not saying Yay is the best player or anything but he’s definitely improved from last year and the start of the kickoff tournament, doing his job much better.
Jett and chamber were both just really strong with operators. Now that they have both been nerfed so much he can’t really play a lot of operator anymore so he plays worse.
so sad they didnt make franchising and the team split who knows what their future held if they never added franchising or if they were included in franchising
@@stepankubesak After the Chamber nerfs he went back to playing Jett more, so he had to re-adjust. Then Jett got heavily nerfed and he had to re-adjust again. If you're a player that has been there for the longest time, nerfs like that are bigger, sinceyou're used to play them differently because you played way longer in pro-play than others. This is the case for 90% of titans in Esports. (there are way more reasons but adjustments to new teams, characters, changes in-game, etc...)
Really great video essay, well researched and engaging. I was put off by the constant messed-up line reads, though. A little more practice and a few more takes on each line would have made this much better - those jarring line-reads ruined the experience multiple times for me.
Chember was the dominant part of his prime for sure. You can't denied that fact. He is truly great player no doubt but after c9 drama it was final nail in the coffin for his legacy. I hope he would have been supported by the org like sen did with tenz.
I think BLD have some communication issues, they weren't really acting as a team most of the time. They're like playing rank. There is also the issue of haters and bashers of yay which probably affects the team as well. I think yay needs to take a break for himself and for BLD. Then make a low-key come back?
he was the best chamber player in a chamber meta. its still impressive because you have to actually have insane aim to play chamber to the level he played it to but aside from that, hes pretty meh. when you compare him to players like aspas or tenz who even role-swapped, you can see the big difference in the PLAYERS
Yay was great on just aiming on Chamber but his actually mechanics on more active agents like Jett were no where close to other Jett players. Great at aiming but that's about it imo
Just to mention this, but there are soo many people just waiting for anybody successful to fall and they start hating and disregarding their past achievements too. So many sen haters, tenz haters, yay is facing similar hate on social media, sinatraa scandal was no different.
The map pool and agent nerfs + buffs just don't suit yays playsryle, with the introduction of haven, pearl and fracture it should be easier to play agents like jett and chmsvrt a whole lot more which yay would be more comfortable on
I think Duelist is not suitable for yay and his play style he have such a good crosshair placement and movement but cant be used if you are just entrying and aiming
I honestly can't comprehend why Bleed simply doesnt let him play Chamber, like Zeta Laz uses chamber, T1 Xcurrate uses chamber, why not let yay also use chamber? Its stupid.
I don't understand why he keeps forcing the duelist role. He worked best as a lurking chamber. Stick him on cypher and let his mechanical aim win his 1v1s
Yay is a system player. If system is shit, which it has been for him since he left fns, he'll be shit. Sucks but he isn't an aspas type of player. Another such system player is zekken. On xset he was mostly overshadowed by Cryo and didn't do much last year on sen. But now with a good system he's farming.
They nerfed the character he was best at into the ground over and over and over and over. The entire playstyle of the character literally does not exist anymore.
Looking at the ACS and KDs I know YaY can hold his own, but... there's a lot of times where the 2nd best player was right there with him. YaY can carry his weight, but relies on his team to win. C9 wasn't good with him, Bleed sucks with/out him, DSG was struggling so much regardless(I think it was coaching issues).
As much as I want yay to return to his prime, it just seems more and more unlikely day by day. Bleed is just terrible (except Zest) and it also doesn't help that Raze completely goes against yay's playstyle. It's so obnoxiously obvious that yay has an extremely limited selection of agents he's comfortable on.
call me a hater but wardell was never really that good, oping / using snipers in games with hitscan takes no skill, im an fps lover i know what its like to need skill to get kills and sniping is the cheap way to do it
idc abt wardell but op is available for all. ig you are like those who cry cringe oper or spammer in chat. and yes, oping requires skills. so i will say skill issue. i mean if there are resources available, not using them to your advantage is dumb.
@@snwd992 skill issue is something those without genuine fps skill say, and if you have it, you are lacking the right mindset, it does not require skills, it is point and click, i will argue with anyone about this, and you cant prove me wrong, unless you are flicking, actual flicks not micro corrects, it does not require skill - someone who has skill. I complain when people act like pointing and clicking anywhere on a body and getting kills takes skill like you! :) not in general i dont care that it exists
@questioningmaestro5991 they get the title from the other guns they use, not the awp,I didnt say that people who use hits can snipers are bad, I just know a lot of them that get a dumb amount of kills with them but no other guns, it is a crutch for some, in Wardells case I never found him good overall, but using the op he seemed better than he was, which I found to be because of how easy it is to use
@@lazysquad1019 FNS is dogshit, after that Billibilli fiasco he's never gonna do good again. Yay hasn't won a series in over a year. They won't synergize like they did
yay was never even the best player in the world, optic only won iceland because FPX weren't allowed to attend due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, thats why they didn't even make finals the next event
@@OGking831 Chronicle has three trophies, two of them are masters trophies, he's the GOAT. Also if you wanna play that game... For a game not even two years old at that point, that's like saying olofmeister, Get_Right, etc. were the GOATs of CSGO. The game was in its infancy in both Yay and olof/GR's cases, and so it doesn't mean shit. People dont think of olof/GR as GOATs in CSGO, they're not even in the conversation. Same with Yay, TenZ, etc.
@@lazysquad1019 I did actually? Are you hurt? He's done bro, I doubt people will take a chance on him after Bleed. He's just nothing without Chamber face it.
yay was never a top tier player he just had top tier teammates if u disect everyround on optic he literally just had the best support team in the world + literal most broken agent in the game im sorry but i will forever think that masters win is fraudulent not because of the team or the players but that agent was beyond busted
Yay went negative in 2/48 games lil bro. He always gapped his team. Also, every team in the world had chamber. Not yay's fault other teams don't know how to play the game. It's like saying yay only won because his opponents lost
@@enquixLr bro u watching the same games? he was neg in 90% of his games in split 1 and kick off stop coping u fanboy also was during covid so matches were online and guess the only team with low ping to the servers OPTIC GAMING chamber was busted alone give it 2 ping ur basically unkillable even with borderline subpar aim, ur a meatrider seek help
how the narratives have changed... people used to say fenis got carried by Yay to a masters trophy but now they're saying the exact opposite.
hey fenis why you win so much but never top frag
So weird that people keep saying this. Andbox with yay was massively miles away from what peak optic was, and after the optic era, nrg was still able to go top 4 in Masters Tokyo. They literally helped each other to reach the top but even without yay, the teams that FNS was leading were still top tier. yay needed FNS (and the optic core) not the other way around.
@@jesther2575 billy billy
@@jesther2575 for added info FNS had been playing with yay professionally since 2018, so its no surprise yay worked best with FNS. even in his csgo days he wasnt a standout either, sometimes he botfragged while feenis topfragged
exactly, they're using every excuse they could think of, first "dont let Yay play Viper/Copntroller he should play duelist" then when he played duelist its the same result they blame coaching staff, IGL etc
what they dont realize was Bleed thought pacific is weak and Yay would dominate/stomp them that if they let him play Viper/Controller he would always get multikill or clutch because Viper/Controller most of the time are the last man standing
They just went 0-10 against RRQ today and then lost both games. It looked horrific. Don't know if it's a language barrier, lack of confidence, or what.
def confidence they just looked dead the second they walked out. really wanna see the voice comms video
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@@starkvlr
While confidence plays a huge part. If u know anything about valorant and pay close attention u can see the mid rounding on the team is brutal. Watching bleed on attack is a difficult experience. yays best performances are when he kind of just runs at the enemy without a igl set idea. like the ace against zeta today.
@@donalmeade9599 their igl is useless anyway
I really want yay to bounce back man. No matter how many games he loses, he will still be my goat and I'll always support him no matter what team he's on.
Unlikely. Not impossible but unlikely. Mostly because the scene is being injected by young talent with better twitch reflex. Esports is like that.
Would love to be proven wrong though.
didn't he went like a year without winning + having shit stats
@@firezera we know that dumbass, its just that we want him to get back to form no matter what
@@proverbialking3452 i think with the right team, he can make a comeback. not with bleed. bleed is always always fking clueless. bleed games makes my gold, plat lobby games more bearable to watch. I'm just hoping fujan comes back and help yay with his comeback arc.
youre not alone bro. but yea as we watch bleed, idk :(
I support Yay not because of his crazy stats or his Reykjavik win but because of his humility and very down-to-earth charisma. Dude has legit had some very bad family issues but still chooses to smile and just say "eh, what can we do boys" and then just carry on. Not many people know about his character but rather go on bashing about his poor performance. He is not the GOAT for his performance but for what his heart truly is.
This didn't age well
@@dorutoxd8483 That's 1 dumbass clip that "genghsta" or however you spell that restard's name, put out. He was literally laughing after an important comm was given by Yay, I'd be mad too and act the same way he did
@@dorutoxd8483 what happened
Nothing@@yungbrisk3229
I need less y0y and more Yay. Seriously tho, Yay is one of the main reasons I ever became a content creator. Optic was my favorite team ever. I hadn't been so invested in a team since the Chargers and Philip Rivers. I never even was big on Esports, I just enjoyed playing val on my free time. I then felt like I needed to talk about Valorant to someone other than myself, so yeah thanks Yay and Optic boys. Whether Yay returns to form or not I'll always be a fan of him.
omgg zeph
bro is everywhere
@@kyron2453 I'm the Nick Fury of Valorant
why is yay nicknamed y0y? i find it funny af but i’m just wondering is it because he has 0 wins within the past year?
@@WataDraggon I think so, also sounds funny. I think it's also appropriate because he isn't himself right now.
It broke my heart to watch BLEED loose to RRQ with a 0-2 loss. its just sad to see yay loose so bad man. I wasn't a big fan of him in his prime but now i miss the chamber meta and yay.
missing the chamber meta is bonkers
that sounds like a one trick pony meta to me
Bro miss chamber meta 💀
@@overkilljames2010 if the guy is a chamber main, you cant really blame him for missing the meta tbh
Another delusional val player. He was good back in the jett meta aswell. Literally was second to tenz and wardel at the time.@@emircs2442
So glad you made this cause i remember your tenz video awhile back, so hyped to see this
Yay please comeback your fans are waiting
The finished merchant is gonna have an field day with this
EL DIABLO turning into EL DISBANDO :(( Rip Bleed
my first val esports,match ive ever watched was NV at Masters berlin . i looked at yay once. and ive been a fan ever since.
7:18, FNS is just as bad as fistbumping, as he is aiming.
I would love to see Yay s0m and fns in 100t along with cryo
Cruel or yay would have to seriously change up their playstyle for that to work
great video, i don’t know if you have one on yet, but I would recommend a de-esser vocal effect on your voiceovers if possible as the S/TSS sounds in this video were pretty harsh constantly
Please make a vid on Wardell as Idk much about (I started playing val a lil later than everyone) ppl say he was goated but idk much about and seeing his current state he doesnt look like he was a big player so please make a vid on him will clear my info on him thanks
like any NA player he was hyped for absolutely no reason and never performed well with tsm bc of some inside reasons maybe? currently he's just another streaming grinding ranked
@@firezera You mean with tsm..
@@slayve7394 yeah mb 💀💀
he had a headstart bcs he was actually goated in csgo but he was kind of a dick in his early valo teams and basically never got picked up after
PLEASE YAY PLEASE MAN
In my opinion, Yay a good player with a certain agent. Because there aren't many agents He uses. Even as a Duelist, he only often uses Jett. When Chamber appeared, he became very dependent on Chamber. But after Chamber got nerfed, he seemed to be dissappeared until now.
That’s like many top duelists tho. If Raze received a nerf as hard as chamber did, you would see pros like zekken and jing who rely on their knowledge of the agent decline in performance. Some characters fit peoples playstyles more than others that’s the no fault of the players there’s no denying Yays peak was the highest we’ve ever seen
@johnyom2062 Yeah, Yay was once in that peaks performance. Indeed, it all depends on the character of the player. But, if you compare it with other, Yay doesn't look as flexible as the others. At least we still see Zekken or Jing playing with agents other than Raze or Jett more often. On Team Bleed now, Yay just trying it. Playing with Viper, Skye, even Raze. But it does take time.
@johnyom2062 Yeah, Yay was once in that peaks performance. Indeed, it all depends on the character of the player. But, if you compare it with other, Yay doesn't look as flexible as the others. At least we still see Zekken or Jing playing with agents other than Raze or Jett more often. On Team Bleed now, Yay just trying it. Playing with Viper, Skye, even Raze. But it does take time.
@@johnyom2062that makes absolutely no sense, raze isn't unhealthy to the meta, old chamber gave the edge to everyone playing him, the worst of all chamber merchants is y0y but that doesn't mean he's the only one (taco etc), if you deleted raze, keznit and jingg would still drop high stats in other duelists (like they've done before), while yay couldn't even do that well with Jett having some of the best players supporting him at the time
also aspas clears him
@@firezera riot doesn’t nerf off of balance they nerf them off percentage played in rank. Raze is essentially played every map so there’s a good chance she will catch another nerf. Also the DSG team that you say was supporting him is nowhere near the T1 level. His performance on C9 is the best gauge due to no language barrier like now on Bleed.
bro knew what he was doing when he said september 11th
Bro called Shazam great talent 💀💀
He was the real deal but he needs the right team. This is how it was in cs and before Optic. He was able to pop off as duelist on Envy and was solid on Andbox. Disguised as a bad situation bc it was so last second and basically EVERYONE on bleed speaks a different language so its just doomed to fail. Can't wait to see him come back to NA and go to M80/some other tier 2 team that he can actually prac with.
Bleed are terrible on attack so they always loose in close fashion. Yay is not the issue. how can a duelist be expected to drop numbers if their is 3 people waiting on the site he is going to. IF they fix that their fighting for mid table.
@@donalmeade9599 idk if u read anything i said but im well aware bleed has issues and that yay isnt it lmao
Regardless of team, yay will always be my goat and have my support. This guy is the reason I ever got into FPS,
Would love Yay over at 100T seriously. Cryo, Yay, Boostio, Bang cemented. All cracked aimers.
why is tether default not included?
yay is not a cracked aimer man
Aside from the kickoff tournament, this first season split has been looking fairly good for Yay individually. He looks and plays much more composed and confident just like he did in 2022, and on raze of all agents. While his talent and skill are definitely not gone, the team he’s on definitely is having its struggles with role issues, confidence, leadership, etc. And you can see it in the games they’ve played: aside from the micro mistakes, Bleed often get outplayed in the mid round and suffer dramatically as a result. Aside from sScary being new to IGLing and therefore being inexperienced, I think a lot of issues stem from both language barriers and also the many different cultures coming onto one team.
I agree completly he played very well today. one not great map but decent overall. sScary does not have a good grasp of reading rotations or stacks or pulling roatations on t side. They suffer completely from not being able to get enough rounds on attack resulting to them loosing in close fashion even when the get off to a really bad start on attack. If they could fix that theyd be able to compete with the likes of talon ts zeta or ge. hopefully they do
"fairly good"
Yay's bottom fragging every match against shit teams.
That's not good at all.
@@LukeSawardMusic Bottom fragging every time? He only bottom fragged against Zeta, their most recent match. And even then, within that match, Yay had 14 FKs and FBs, so he’s obviously still doing his job on the team. I’m not saying Yay is the best player or anything but he’s definitely improved from last year and the start of the kickoff tournament, doing his job much better.
I'd love a vid on Wardell
Definitely make a Wardell video, kids don't know how good he was. Bro put the whole team in his backpack at events
meow
Even on Complexity Yay was always inconsistent. Plus he's always needed a good igl to work with.
2:26 seems about right
im ngel since we're talking about Yay and optic you should talk about aspas and loud
Aspas is still in his prime though
Just change the title to:
"How good is aspas really?"
@@Kryogenix2 oh yea, especially how he pretty much solod sen
Jett and chamber were both just really strong with operators. Now that they have both been nerfed so much he can’t really play a lot of operator anymore so he plays worse.
You made typo on the title, it should be "How Broken was pre-nerf Chamber?"
Watch the video nerd
so sad they didnt make franchising and the team split who knows what their future held if they never added franchising or if they were included in franchising
8:55 I know that jett get nerf earlier in 2O22 but why is there a video from the jett patch note from lotus (Lotus release early 2O23)
Jett got another nerf like 6 months ago where her smoke lasts like 3 seconds and she had only one updraft
@@yano9669 I know but yays peak was during 2022 And not 2023
@@stepankubesak After the Chamber nerfs he went back to playing Jett more, so he had to re-adjust. Then Jett got heavily nerfed and he had to re-adjust again. If you're a player that has been there for the longest time, nerfs like that are bigger, sinceyou're used to play them differently because you played way longer in pro-play than others. This is the case for 90% of titans in Esports. (there are way more reasons but adjustments to new teams, characters, changes in-game, etc...)
Great video Andy
Really great video essay, well researched and engaging. I was put off by the constant messed-up line reads, though. A little more practice and a few more takes on each line would have made this much better - those jarring line-reads ruined the experience multiple times for me.
7:16 missing eachother
Went from Yay to y0y now to Yey hopefully eventually back to Yay
wardell was crazy, drop the vid bro
He's a fraud
@@ahenk7663 doesn’t change the fact that he was absolutely cracked
@@miksiuu crack in the head maybe
@@ahenk7663 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@miksiuu in current scene he is like a kid
Chember was the dominant part of his prime for sure. You can't denied that fact. He is truly great player no doubt but after c9 drama it was final nail in the coffin for his legacy.
I hope he would have been supported by the org like sen did with tenz.
Dont let him play raze🗣️
“When you see yAy on A you get tf out”
I hope he comes back to his prime.
Change the title to: "how good a tournament chamber one trick man in his prime?"
even tho he played bad now, he's still the legend
Wardell video please....really like the guy... didn't expect the fall 😢
I think BLD have some communication issues, they weren't really acting as a team most of the time. They're like playing rank. There is also the issue of haters and bashers of yay which probably affects the team as well. I think yay needs to take a break for himself and for BLD. Then make a low-key come back?
he was the best chamber player in a chamber meta. its still impressive because you have to actually have insane aim to play chamber to the level he played it to but aside from that, hes pretty meh. when you compare him to players like aspas or tenz who even role-swapped, you can see the big difference in the PLAYERS
Yay was great on just aiming on Chamber but his actually mechanics on more active agents like Jett were no where close to other Jett players. Great at aiming but that's about it imo
Just to mention this, but there are soo many people just waiting for anybody successful to fall and they start hating and disregarding their past achievements too. So many sen haters, tenz haters, yay is facing similar hate on social media, sinatraa scandal was no different.
indeed
is this a reupload
The map pool and agent nerfs + buffs just don't suit yays playsryle, with the introduction of haven, pearl and fracture it should be easier to play agents like jett and chmsvrt a whole lot more which yay would be more comfortable on
Wait. Crashies and Victor can flex?
I think Duelist is not suitable for yay and his play style he have such a good crosshair placement and movement but cant be used if you are just entrying and aiming
I honestly can't comprehend why Bleed simply doesnt let him play Chamber, like Zeta Laz uses chamber, T1 Xcurrate uses chamber, why not let yay also use chamber? Its stupid.
chamber merchant
Chamber merchant got more trophies than pacific
@@JMlolVal still a merchant
@@twinkl3s still trophies
@@ignitetheflame_ I will agrue with you when Bleed win another match bro, he's washed
@@twinkl3s i mean he will win today, i have foresight 🫡🫡
I don't understand why he keeps forcing the duelist role. He worked best as a lurking chamber. Stick him on cypher and let his mechanical aim win his 1v1s
same problem with demon1 rn
New series the “how good was ___ actually?”
:)
FNS, s0m, and yay. C'mon Nadeshot make it happen
wait so sscary has a 2-1 record against yay? damn 2 insane players but they just dont mix that well ig
Marved carried optic on his back in Reykjavik, if it weren’t for him they would’ve certainly lost to ZETA
Dose yay have potential to be an igl u think?
PLEASE MAKE A WARDELL VIDEO
Yay is a system player. If system is shit, which it has been for him since he left fns, he'll be shit. Sucks but he isn't an aspas type of player.
Another such system player is zekken. On xset he was mostly overshadowed by Cryo and didn't do much last year on sen. But now with a good system he's farming.
Thank god, finally found a real comment and not some fanboy bullshit.
he still perform decently tbh ,it just that their igl is so dogshit
Zekken was only overshadowed by cryo because it was chamber meta
Bro said how good was he really.
They nerfed the character he was best at into the ground over and over and over and over. The entire playstyle of the character literally does not exist anymore.
Looking at the ACS and KDs I know YaY can hold his own, but... there's a lot of times where the 2nd best player was right there with him. YaY can carry his weight, but relies on his team to win. C9 wasn't good with him, Bleed sucks with/out him, DSG was struggling so much regardless(I think it was coaching issues).
As much as I want yay to return to his prime, it just seems more and more unlikely day by day. Bleed is just terrible (except Zest) and it also doesn't help that Raze completely goes against yay's playstyle. It's so obnoxiously obvious that yay has an extremely limited selection of agents he's comfortable on.
I liked the vid but I hate these transition sound effects tbh
I’m convinced yay was killed and replaced by his twin y0y
yay on sentinel when...
Jacob Whitaker pweaseee
opac was different
opac on awp beats el diablo
Stream sniping destroyed opac bro
Clown9 changed my goat 😤😤😤 they brainwashed him
Never was the goat.
Chronicle has thrice the trophies and twice the Masters wins.
@@LukeSawardMusic it’s like saying bill Russel won more trophies than Michael Jordan so MJ isn’t the goat. 😂
call me a hater but wardell was never really that good, oping / using snipers in games with hitscan takes no skill, im an fps lover i know what its like to need skill to get kills and sniping is the cheap way to do it
idc abt wardell but op is available for all. ig you are like those who cry cringe oper or spammer in chat. and yes, oping requires skills. so i will say skill issue. i mean if there are resources available, not using them to your advantage is dumb.
@@snwd992 skill issue is something those without genuine fps skill say, and if you have it, you are lacking the right mindset, it does not require skills, it is point and click, i will argue with anyone about this, and you cant prove me wrong, unless you are flicking, actual flicks not micro corrects, it does not require skill - someone who has skill. I complain when people act like pointing and clicking anywhere on a body and getting kills takes skill like you! :) not in general i dont care that it exists
@@confusedoorknobaren't top cs players awpers? Idk where the "no skill" part came from
@questioningmaestro5991 they get the title from the other guns they use, not the awp,I didnt say that people who use hits can snipers are bad, I just know a lot of them that get a dumb amount of kills with them but no other guns, it is a crutch for some, in Wardells case I never found him good overall, but using the op he seemed better than he was, which I found to be because of how easy it is to use
Chamber made yay better, he was a beast In Berlin 😊
most things are right but real ogs know android was the best on the old andbox team
the finished chamber merchant
0-12 now btw
lol yay drama just got worse in the last three days damn that man is on fire but that doesn't have to be in a good sense
yay revolutionized valorant he brought over 50% of the fan base now
goat
im telling u everyone is crap infront of aspas. he has the highest impact ever
Chamber was so broken everyone thought Yay was the best player in the world
w vid
Washed is washed. You can put the Optic core back together again and he's still not gonna pop off
He will you forget that yay is a team player his current team has 1 other good playrr wjth a terrible coach
@@lazysquad1019 FNS is dogshit, after that Billibilli fiasco he's never gonna do good again. Yay hasn't won a series in over a year. They won't synergize like they did
genuinely i really really dont like yay, he just gives me this bad vibe of toxicity and ego.
I’ve never really been into yay, but he’s never seemed toxic as a player such as someone like demon1
Most obvious bait
@@mori2029Demon1 isn't toxic. He's doing it for the media. He's one of the nicest players according to other pros.
@@radish1972oh fr? i thought that was actually his personality. which pros said this
@@butterandbreadstickszekken. He said he hangs out with Demon1
Yeah prime Yay was just as good as a prime Chamber. both got nerfed to the ground
bro fix your mic settings the peaks are fuckin high
i feel like he's depressed man. he doesn't look lively at all when he walks on stage. :/ seems like a chill dude too.
don't call optic and loud el classico loll
yay was never even the best player in the world, optic only won iceland because FPX weren't allowed to attend due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, thats why they didn't even make finals the next event
Yay had the best stats THAN ANYONE in 2022 and PLAYED more rounds while putting numbers than anybody
@@OGking831 chamber merchant (no skill doesn’t count)
@@OGking831 Chronicle has three trophies, two of them are masters trophies, he's the GOAT.
Also if you wanna play that game...
For a game not even two years old at that point, that's like saying olofmeister, Get_Right, etc. were the GOATs of CSGO. The game was in its infancy in both Yay and olof/GR's cases, and so it doesn't mean shit. People dont think of olof/GR as GOATs in CSGO, they're not even in the conversation. Same with Yay, TenZ, etc.
Now 0-12
The is the one player i've seen fall and the community generally be sad about it.
chamber is just busted that's all lol. Put him in any agent he'd suck lol
This is what smurfing gets you. You get what you deserve
hah 12 and 7 comeback is nothing i did a 3 and 11 comeback and won by 14 and 12 ez
It's chamber, not yay
I'm still watching bleed games just for yay. But they are absolutely awful.
Title should be "How good was a broken Chamber was".
Yo just didn’t watch the video nice 1
brother watch vid before typing. i cant bruh, its too funny how dumb people are. just wanna hate on a player.
@@lazysquad1019 I did actually? Are you hurt? He's done bro, I doubt people will take a chance on him after Bleed. He's just nothing without Chamber face it.
@@snwd992 Yeah pretty dumb to not see he's just a Chamber 1 trick.
@@snwd992 Hasn't won a match in over a year, even Ardiis can do that lmfao.
Goofy ahh transition noises
yay was never a top tier player he just had top tier teammates if u disect everyround on optic he literally just had the best support team in the world + literal most broken agent in the game im sorry but i will forever think that masters win is fraudulent not because of the team or the players but that agent was beyond busted
Plus fpx was supposed to go to Iceland but had visa issues and we know how strong they were in Copenhagen.
Yay went negative in 2/48 games lil bro. He always gapped his team. Also, every team in the world had chamber. Not yay's fault other teams don't know how to play the game. It's like saying yay only won because his opponents lost
@@enquixLr bro u watching the same games? he was neg in 90% of his games in split 1 and kick off stop coping u fanboy also was during covid so matches were online and guess the only team with low ping to the servers OPTIC GAMING chamber was busted alone give it 2 ping ur basically unkillable even with borderline subpar aim, ur a meatrider seek help
mhmm i see very clear in your comment that you just a biased fk see nothing but negative
y0y
diablo dead