@@sallycinnamon5370 They don’t, unless the state has companionship laws. Depending on hours quick the crash happened, they also won’t get money for pain and suffering.
To the girl in the first tiktok: I’m pretty sure it is more expensive to buy a plane and train a crew of pilots and engineers than to pay out insurance.
As a flight attendant, I was taught on how to serve people on board and how to always be polite and professional. But my instructor puts *HEAVY* emphasis that serving passengers are secondary - that ensuring the safety of all souls onboard are our utmost duty. After all those training, I can't help but feel irritated (if not offended) when some random TikTok-ers who (presumably) has next to zero experience in flight, let alone training, said that "Airlines want passengers to die so they can't sue". Trust me, if we DO want y'all to take a dip, flight attendants wouldn't have spent so much time and effort to learn that many safety measures!
It is insulting. It's just as insulting as when the anti-science crowd say BS heavily laced with conspiratorial suspicion. People don't study for over a decade to do whatever BS they're pushing, just like flight attendants and other professionals charged with human safety don't go through all the training they do just to ensure the public gets hurt etc. It's infuriating.
Reminds me of the current state of women’s healthcare. A bunch of people with no medical or scientific experience trying to control the narrative. Thank God I hope most people don’t believe these foolish tictockers!!
The most ridiculous thing about these Tiktok is that they are Americans talking about plane crashes... The last commercial air crash in the United States was in 2009. Yes, 13 years ago.
Most American fears of flying comes from Hollywood and a certain… incident, back in 2001. But no, we’ll gladly drive a car around everywhere. The last car crash was only… a few seconds ago or so.
@@casual_speedrunner1482 no, most people's fear from flying comes from... Flying, like, not being in the ground, thousands of meters up in the air? All the things youve mentioned only play on this fear, but they don't really make it for most.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator the most terrifying thing about flying is that, in the off chance (ultra rare) that something goes wrong, it's almost a guarantee that everyone onboard will die. That's why people are afraid. And also the thought that it's in someone else's hand (they forget that modern flights are automated for the most part).
@@edgelord121 not everyone in a car is driving it, and yes they would all die, this is very evident by being thousands of meters up in the air, it all comes back to both death and altitude, both primal human fears.
@@casual_speedrunner1482 Airplane crash would kill a hundred and something people, a car crash kills one or two people usually. But most car crashes are also just injuries and not deaths. And of course we’re not afraid of cars, we drive them daily and we’re in control. And you don’t have to drive a few hours straight most of the time hopefully. Gas aside, driving is free and there’s not always bad traffic.
Kelsey and a lot of other RUclips pilots as well. I watch 3 of them for explanation of aviation. I learned that flying an aircraft consists of procedures, procedures and more procedures. All done through checklists. That is why flying is so safe. Once pilots deviate from procedures, that is where you should fear their performance and handling of a plane.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Even in flying small planes, (like the Cessna 172,) there are checklists and procedures. And these planes are meant for fun, for training, and for short, uncomplicated trips. Commercial flights, such as charters, cargo flights, and other, have even more checklists, procedures, flight plan requirements, and so on. Airlines.... at least double all those checklists and procedures. That's ON TOP of all of the federally regulated procedures that govern the actual flying. And that's just the flying part. Maintenance and repair adds several additional layers to the regulatory morass.
Basic math: look at the statistics, figure out how much you fly, and that should be enough. Most of those tikkertonkers turdlings are doing nothing but to regurgitate the plot of the first seasons of Mythbusters. No, seriously, go watch it from season one, and suddenly you'll realize where these mindless drones subsist from.
“Planes have a sensitive centre of gravity and so moving around to change seats dramatically shifts it and causes a crash” Clearly this guy never even saw flight attendants in-flight *pushing along heavy trolleys of food and beverages*
Lmao. True. I have one on Air Asia where I can actually sit on an empty seat with no issues. Also the heavy trolley and sometimes we’d have a line of people waiting near the restroom. There were no issues so far.
This logic reminds me of the weird dream I had where I was on this weird plane where instead of emergency exits, some people had to sit next to these levers that were used to _flap the wings_ and keep the plane in the air, and one person stopped flapping their wing and we crashed.
@@SnailSnail622 you could say that the mechanism is like a rowboat where you can’t move unless you’ve been able to use both sides properly. Old rowboats from history is designed to be rowed by different men with 1 rudder each.
Not a pilot, though I’ve done some ground school education, and while all of this is obviously nonsense, I think this is also brings up a bigger problem with TikTok. The amount of false information that I’ve seen on that site is INSANE, especially when its primary age demographic is teens who don’t typically double check their information
You know what's even worse? Gen Z (the Gen after Millenials) use TikTok like we use Google. They literally use it as a search engine and don't question the info that the Algorithms give them.
Person here who wrote a lot about post truth in uni, this has actually been an increasing issue with ALL of the internet, because of the way social media platforms' algorithms work now + the way media has pushed this "both sides" thing on news shows etc, even when they pit people who have an uneducated opinion based on their feelings against actual scientists. On social media, even if you look beyond the people you follow, most of them will only recommend information similar to what you've already consumed. So if you consume a lot of not fact-based alarmist content, that's what gets recommended to you. Of course, tiktok's algorithm is a lot more efficient in doing that then say, twitter or ig a lot of the times. There's also somehow, a lot less media literacy being taught, which would be really important cause a lot of the times people on tiktok pose as being an authority figure on a subject despite not actually being one.
Even if the airline was only interested in saving money on liability suits for a crash, they'd still prefer you survive. If you die, your estate or next of kin can file a wrongful death claim, the judgements for which are much larger then bodily injury and emotional distress claims.
@@PengySweety8 It's honestly just frustrating because you finish mopping up one conspiracy theory and then another person who fells for the SAME one repeats it and you have to debunk it all over again. Disinformation and misinformation is rampant as hell these days. Whack-a-mole.
Mythbusters some years back tested that crash position designed to kill you thing. Guess what. If you have room to do the full proper position it is one of the _best_ positions to be in and even in the most crammed seats the closer you get to it the better off you are. Almost like a lot of research went into finding the best way to keep people alive and with as few injuries as possible!
Well yeah. If you don’t crash head first into a solid object from a good distance in front of you then you’re probably going to have a much easier time surviving. That’s why you prop your head against the seat in front of you. You lean on it so you don’t slam into it from a distance. Compeatly logical. People forget that planes don’t have the same kind of seat belts as cars. They don’t catch your upper body the way car seat belts do. You will hit the seat in front of you, or of you are short your own knees maybe. But you can prevent yourself from gaining enough momentum to kill you by leaning agains tthe thing you are inevitably going to crash into. I swear these people don’t logic. Thank god we had mythbusters to test these things.
But don't you understand? She has no medical, engineering, or piloting knowledge. Nor has she done any research into effective crash survival methods. Therefore, she is unbiased or something.
@@grahamreece519 oh true, law of large numbers, get a bunch of untrained, intentionally inept tiktokers, average out their assumptions and baseless claims, and you'll eventually arrive at the truth :p
Watching these people just rant about nonsense with “mysterious music” and irrelevant stock footage in the background hurts my soul. Thanks for discussing this stuff.
@@user-ze2zm4sz1b The us has a drug problem because of the government not the cartels also statistically I can assume half of america has tik tok which isnt as bad as even saudi arabia where 9/10 people have the app. also everyone uses drugs such as caffeine and sugar.
I lost it at the “centre of gravity” bs. I was on a flight from vancouver to tokyo for a school trip in 2015 and at one point basically everyone swapped seats because it was a weekday so it was pretty empty besides our group of like 60 high schoolers. Almost everyone swapped seats to sit next to their friends on a 10 hour flight. The same thing happened on the way back.
Small aircraft it's extremely noticeable, flying my PA-28 Piper Cherokee, you have to follow cg weight and balance checks, or else it'll bank the plane in an undesirable fashion.
also most modern big airliners have trim tanks in the tail and do activelly transfer fuel between the center/wings and the tail tank to adjust cg in real time.. plus its also aerodynamically trimming the tail constantly for level flight
@@skeliton7367 I mean, he definitely could be. Or he just did the tiniest bit of googling and never realized that weight distribution is important only in tiny little planes.
This is halarious. It's also a bit sad, because we all know there's people out there who think these people did their research, and believe these are true.
I was on a flight where an attendant gave me an extra sodie pop causing the plane be unbalanced and nose dive into a moutain, which was great ‘cause when I survived I knew I was gonna get my 10 cajillion dollar, but when we landed they set the plane on fire, which then I knew I was in trouble. I couldn’t see through my shirt once I pulled it over my head.
You were probably also sitting in the back of the plane (because you’d 100% survive there) and held that seated position with your feet on the seat in front of you. Like the Tic Tockers explained, the brace position will snap your neck and back too! 😱
Oh, you were maybe on the plane that Tom Hanks landed on the water (in Seattle, was it?! Or Berlin maybe …) to put out the fire and avoid the Alps or was it the Andes, the mountains anyhow… (can’t remember) ???
Just on the last one, the wet tshirt to cover your nose and mouth helps as a temporary filter as the smoke particles cling to the water particles in the fabric. It’s probably good for about 2-5 minutes, enough time to evacuate the plane. I think the last TikTok missed the part where you then start moving to the exit after wetting you new fabric face covering.
I just commented the same, that guy was at least partially right, the others were flat out wrong lol. During WW1 an unknown man saved countless lives after discovering a urine soaked cloth was effective enough protection from mustard gas
@@Valansch No, water boarding isn’t the same as breathing through a damp piece of fabric. If you put the fabric over your mouth and then started pouring water over it, then yes, that is water boarding. The point of water boarding is to have a consistent stream of water being applied to the face covering.
@@Valansch As Buffer stated, waterboarding is when you pour water over a piece of fabric over your face (which gives the illusion of drowning). I also assume he means pulling the front of your shirt up so it covers your mouth & nose (while not exposing your bare torso to flames). Doing that could genuinely help temporarily reduce the risk of passing out from Smoke Inhalation & reduce the overall damage done to your lungs from smoke inhalation. Obviously a proper mask/breathing device is better, but in a pinch it is measurably better than nothing.
As a pilot it is incredibly infuriating sometimes talking to people like those in these tiktoks. Using your social media to spread misinformation like this is not just irresponsible but also extremely dangerous.
Thank you, Kelsey, for countering this misinformation. I've never experienced Tiktok, and I now have another reason to be proud of that. If what's shown here is representative of even 5% of the content, it makes 4chan look like an infallible oracle and font of knowledge.
Another thing about the switching seats. Planes REALLY like to stay in the air once they are up there, so a slightly messed up weight distribution isn' that big a deal unless your in a very small plane.
It happened on a l410 turbolet before, everyone ran to the cockpit after seeing an alligator causing the COG to change and the plane crashed, but its a small plane and it took every single passenger to change the COG so yeah. Jetblue flight 292 also had every passenger move to the back of the plane to alter its center of gravity but it didnt crash.
I never got to finish this, cleared my watch history, and now it's thankfully back. Though I haven't finished, I still wanted to say thanks for talking about these. I've only been on one round trip across the country, and frankly, I'm still not fond of flying, but I know in the future I'll have more flights to visit friends and family. However, what kept me calm is knowing how many hours - if not years - of their lives pilots and crew spend in the air. If they can do that, I can, too. Debunking bad flight related info goes a long way in helping people who are scared.
The funniest part to me, is as a person who has a fear of flying I already knew all of these “facts” were bullshit. My fear is an irrational fear. Planes are safe. I’m just too anxious to fly without sedation.
@@mechanomics2649 my therapist and I refer to it as my lizard brain, the part that is mostly instinct and irrational. Makes sense. Hell I know that if I arrive at the airport alive I’ve already survived the most dangerous part of air travel. Still scares me for no reason.
@@RageUnchained i thought lizard brain was an instinctual fear? You know genetic holdovers from when our first ancestors were getting mauled by like literally everything?
I was on a "puddle jumper", with probably 18 seats, there were 4 passengers and of course all assigned to the first two rows for ticketing purposes. Pilot asked 2 of us (me and my bestie) to move to the back rows to redistribute weight (honestly, the guys in the front were large men), no problem whatsoever, we understood the command. Everything worked out fine
@@loonatic4529 And even then, the pilots will just advise you calmly that redistribution of weight is safer not scaremonger like this lad did and be like *"OMG YOU'RE GONNA CRASH THE PLANEEE!!!!!!"*
The "brace position will break your neck/back" is the most insidious imo. Because it sort of feels true for a lot of people. It is just when you look at it/think about it, I believe most people don't consider the seatbelt and how high the chance for head injuries is when staying upright. I must admit that when I heard it, I did really consider if it was right for a while.
I was once informed by one of these “experts” that it’s illegal to smoke on a plane because they pump oxygen into it. My eyes rolled so hard, they ached for days.
They stopped smoking on airlines because they did away with fresh air vents in the cabin. With -80 a temperature outside the had to turn the heat up to around 200° and this used more fuel.
@@longwindingroad Oh, really? From a 1989 CBC story: "The ban is part of the Non-Smokers' Health Act. Benoît Bouchard, the transport minister, says the rule is necessary to protect the health of airline workers and passengers bothered by smoke. The big airlines are pressuring the government NOT to apply the new rule to international flights. They say smokers from Europe and Japan in particular will switch airlines rather than spend hours in the air without a cigarette. CBC reporter Deborah Lamb says Air Canada fears the ban will cost the company $40 million a year. The government gives in. The law being passed today makes only flights within Canada smoke-free." You'd think they'd save even more fuel on international flights, no?
@@longwindingroad Wrong on all points. - Smoking ban was part of the overall push for smoking bans everywhere, as Flora said. - Airliner cabins still get constant fresh air piped in. That hasn't changed. - Jet engines generate lots of waste heat. No need to use extra fuel for cabin heat.
@@patheddles4004 I was trying to make up something with misinformation. Now you taught me something new. I didn't know fresh air was really piped in. I was saying there was actual vents near the windows you could open( not possible).
"Changing seats is lethal" How did I survive my home flight when I was walking multiple times to left and right because I wanted to film the alpine scenery on both sides. The plane was half empty and no one cared.
It's. Almost right on really small planes that are pushing the envelop. In large planes passanger weight doesn't matter, but, if for example, a military cargo plane were hauling tanks that weren't strapped in and were able to move left or right, the 60+ ton weight of the tank would likely cause issues as it moves back and forth. That is obviously a ridiculous scenario, though. I've not heard many stories of large cargo moving around in planes, but I'm sure it would cause extreme issues.
I love it so much when the plane is empty. I still remember how amazing it was to fly from Lisboa (Portugal) to Dakar (Senegal) on an Airbus A330 at probably 20% capacity. I slept comfortably on three seats and I could move from a side of the plane to the other, to enjoy the view on both sides.
Hi Kelsey, my Grandad was groundcrew. An engineer. He used to say a plane on the ground and the crew walk away an OK landing. A plane that lands and can take off again a great landing. One where he didn't have to get the spanners out a perfect one. He said he never saw a perfect landing.
"If you were born on an airliner in the US in this decade and never got off you would encounter your first fatal accident when you were 2,300 years of age and you would still have a 29% chance of being one of the survivors." - Les Lautman, Safety Manager Boeing Commercial Airplane Company, 1989.
On average, of course. Also this is an inaccurate statement even with an average in mind, because this is assuming the plane is never decommissioned. If it is decommissioned then you would be sitting in a recycling plant awaiting your daily peanuts as they tear pieces of metal and old parts from the plane to re-use or throw out. I know it's a throwaway comment to express the level of safety... but like come on there's factors you gotta consider.
@@AmyAndThePup It means that there is a REALLY low chance the plane is going to crash, even if you stayed on the plane your whole life. And even then, you could be a survivor.
I’m an extremely nervous flyer, so when my daughter became a FA, I was terrified. Over the last few years I have relaxed…somewhat..but not really. (BTW, You’re right. FAs love turbulence. She said 1) get to sit down 2) no one asks for anything 3) it’s funny to watch the synchronized head movements from behind- now you know why 😉) But back to the point. I typically avoid Airline related content on RUclips b/c it’s typically stress and fear inducing. As a FA mom, I don’t need the added anxiety. I discovered your channel a couple of months ago and now I have a Kelsey addiction 😂. Your videos are having a positive impact on the fear I’ve been harboring. I’m feeling way more confident in the plane and pilot’s abilities. It’s like you washed out all the irrational thoughts and assumptions and replaced them with a feeling of reassurance. Thank you 🙏
I was impressed by aviators ability when I was attached to an anti-aircraft missile system. We were on the top of a hill and we had our missiles in depression to track aircraft coming down the valley at several hundred knots (they were maybe a hundred feet off the valley floor).
Aircraft fueler out of ATL here … watching this video ANNOYED the crap outta me! These people don’t understand how much training EACH AND EVERY PERSON that TOUCHES a plane has to go through just to keep an EMPTY plane sitting on the ramp in between flights safe… much less a plane full of passengers. Safety is priority… we take it very seriously so this is just a bunch of BS!!!
I almost died laughing when Kelsey said he would facilitate your leaving the aircraft if you stop in front of him. I would do the exact same thing if I ever had to.
That made me lol also. I wonder if after making these videos the these tik tokers are like “yeah! Spitting out the knowledge. Going viral!” Yeah - going viral for being fantastically stupid. Lol. Morons these days.
2 of my pilot friends once did a really dumb stunt in a cessna. Pretty much one guy was sitting in the rear seat, the other was flying. They would then switch place as in one would climb out of the pilot seat and into the back, and the other would climb into the pilot seat and fly the plane for a bit. They did this reckless move maybe 3 times over the course of 20 minutes, and the cessna barley reflected a change in weight/balance while they did this. Airplanes are indeed sensitive to weight changes, but if 2 people moving around in a tiny cessna changes nothing then switching seats in a large airliners will not do anything either.
1st girl didn't realize that the remaining families and such can actually sue the company still, probably have a higher chance of getting money from it as well. Also, the water shirt thing works, you just have to put it over your mouth to breathe through. Of course, it's not going to be as effective as real equipment. But it's going to help a little bit.
Have used the water shirt trick in an actual fire. It works quite well. Nothing near a real respirator which filters out almost all the smoke (but you can still die of hypoxia) or SCBA (which is clean air in a tank) but it will get rid of most smoke particles and some toxic combustion byproducts like chlorine from burning PVC. Also wet clothes take longer to catch fire.
“Planes have a sensitive center of gravity and so moving around to change seats dramatically shifts it and causes a crash” Dude has never seen someone go to the bathroom on a plane
This remind me of my last flight. Maybe a fifth of the seats empty, the crew is telling us where to seat so we don't block the emergency exits. So they send around 20 people to the back of the plane and one guy starts complaining to his partner that the back will be overweight and we will crash upon take off... Gosh I wanted to smack him and tell to shut up so badly haha.. Not that I'm afraid of flying as I fly roughly 10 times a year but it's not something I want to listen to on the plane haha
“Airlines are trying to kill your” Maybe… But that doesn’t mean the pilot and the entire plane want to die. Also, if you die in an airplane, the family would sue anyway.
I learned a lot from Air Crash investigations. Mostly that there is never 1 cause. And depending on the cause(s), what side of the airplane is destroyed most. There is no fixed "safe" seat. It all depends on the circumstances
As a pilot. Honestly the only real spot that has a “high chance” of survival is near emergency exits. Less time on the plane as you can evacuate faster.
I remember that show worked out that on average you are more likely to survive a crash in the rear of a plane than the front, but that the survival conditions are so dependent on the type of crash that it's pointless choosing a seat based on the probability.
That first one is especially stupid: the Mythbusters tested that one 17 years ago and busted it! That position reduces injuries. The "oh no, moving around the plane will change the center of gravity and cause a crash!" guy, that's definitely a "tell me you've never flown on a plane without telling me you've never flown on a plane" sort of deal. XD
@@Mariana-ym6zf Well, MythBusters ran for 15+ seasons, so that’s… not really a valid argument, she could have seen _some_ episodes of the series growing up. Also, don’t discount the power of confirmation bias, she could have seen the episode and her brain dismissed it because it didn’t match her world view. Also also, not saying I think their tests of the brace position were wrong or invalid, but another line of thought there could’ve been, ‘Oh, Jamie and Adam/The Build Team have been wrong before, I think they’re wrong on this one too.’ Because the gang did get myths wrong occasionally, went back and retested them, and reached different conclusions. And viewers challenged their results on their forums all the time. So she could have seen the episode and disagreed with their findings. That said, she’s obviously a conspiracy theorist, which takes a particular mindset that isn’t exactly conducive to rationality, so who _knows_ what’s going on up there between her ears.
@@Mariana-ym6zf that makes no sense, i am 17 years old and i even remember watching that specific episode as well as all of the episodes that were available for me to watch at the time
In the first clip, the way she says to sit instead is actually a way my school bus driver never said to sit. He said this is because since your knees are bracing against the seat, a crash causes your knees and legs (and therefore, your hips) to absorb all of the impact. There's a lot of really important arteries in there, so it can cause some pretty bad internal bleeding. I can only imagine how much worse that would be in a plane, as opposed to a school bus.
Yeah but that’s just a recipe for your knees slamming into your head causing massive injuries. The head is the place you want to get injured the least. It also cruches your spine because you are actively straining to hold this position instead of folding yourself together and lessening the strain by kepping all your limbs close together. It’s a horrible position. Any potential good you get fromit is immeadiately negated by the risk of simply not being able to hold it, and of course not having annything preventing your head from flying forwads to either hit your kees or the seat in front. A brain injury is far more dangerous than internal bleeding. Now a car doesn’t have the same struggles because of the nature of the seat belts used. You are prevented from flying forwards. Your seated area as well as your upper body is supported. There your main concern is actually being slammed backwards after hitting the seat belt so you want to make sure you are sitting with your back entierly against the back of the seat, and with your head rest correctly positioned to support your head. Since a lot of school busses still don’t have seat belts I would not reccomend this strategy for surviving a crash there. Bracing yourself against the seat in front of you is probably still the best strategy in that case.
A long time ago (late 80's), I was on one of the small commuter planes. There were 4 passengers seats. It was the only time I have ever been asked what my weight was. Even though it was a dark and stormy night, I was able to watch the pilots change the radar distances to plan their way around the rain. It was one of the smoothest flights I've ever been on. Needless to say, it made a big impression on me.
6:14 This was about 15 years ago... I was on a Northwest Saab 340 puddle jumper from TOL to DTW (short flight, yes) and we did have a weight/balance issue on that flight. There were a number of us, including myself, that had to rearrange prior to takeoff to satisfy the imbalance. As I recall, that was a 2/1 configuration down the aisle, and it was not a full flight.
One time flying back from Europe on a 747 (short), they made everyone move to the very front seats in coach for takeoff and landing. We occupied 6 or 7 rows. That was all the people on the plane in coach. After takeoff, we were able to sit wherever we wanted. It was a magnificent flight as everyone had their own row of seats. It made sleeping very easy. We speculated that they had some heavy items in the cargo area and needed to get into the proper weight and balance envelope. So sometimes, a single person can make a difference, but it would be extremely rare. As a side note, I once asked a captain if he could tell if people moved around and he said "no". For what it's worth, I am a private pilot, so I do understand weight and balance.
Well said Kelsey, ! Am also a pilot and it is infuriating to learn from your channel all this rubbish spread by a bunch of people who obviously have no aviation experience. There is a old saying in another language, that translates to " The person who speaks is not the only one who is crazy but the ones who listen and believe in them are crazy as well ". Kelsey keep up the good work. Love your channel.👍
TikTok is filled with young 'adults' with zero experience in the area they are discussing spouting crap like this as if they are an expert. Worse, people actually follow them and believe she has some inside knowledge.
kinda like a lot of today's young politicians screaming "facts" re things they know absolutely nothing about and when questioned admit it unabashedly - and equally scary many support and applaud them.
This has to be one of your best ever. Even my wife listened along with me and laughed. Made me think of the comedian Ron White; 'you can't fix stupid'. As a private pilot myself I would love to get into a conversation with some of the 'aviation experts' :)
Ron White, "Everyone else started freaking out, but I had been drinking since lunchtime, so I was like "Take it down! I don't care! Make sure y you hit something hard, 'cause I don't want to limp away from this!" The guy next to me is *losing his mind*. I guess he must have had something to "live for". He says, "Hey man, if one of the engines goes out, how far will the other one take us?" I look at him. "All the way to the scene of the crash! Which is pretty lucky, because that's where we're headed! I bet we beat the paramedics by a good half hour! We're haulin' ass!"
the second guy was a ramp agent and i actually worked with him for a while. while he is not exactly correct. he isnt super wrong. w&b is still a huge thing is flying around (commercial, multi-ifr/iatra rated myself) its not the be all end all, but if you have more than 5 people moving around it can effect your fuel effiency and could lead to some flight characteristics that werent expected.
@@74gear Slightly less funny maybe, but a great deal more sober. I think if I heard Ron's voice coming from the cockpit PA, I'd be diving past the crowds of stewardesses at the emergency exit.
DANG Kelsey! I'm enjoying this giggle as much as the bloopers one. Don't know how I managed to miss it.. (considering I've been binge watching) Comedy GOLD at influencers expense. Thanks for making sense of the stupid. Putting our minds at ease as well. Keep doing what you're doing. Just awesome ;)
In the flight: - Sir we are serving the meal now. Would you take the order? - Yeah, sure...whats on the menu? - Roasted tic tocers, the pilot personaly roasted them. 🤣🤣
Another great video Kelsey. It's scary how people with no real knowledge about aviation are still making these tik tok videos and how some people are listening to them instead of you. These "experts" assume pilots are completely dumb and have no will to live like everyone else when it comes to emergencies. Thankfully we have you to call these tik tokers on their bull crap
The Internet is full urine drinkers and demon seed ladies and vaccines turn you magnetic weirdos who have convinced millions to not get vaccinated. And I once thought the Internet would be a force for good, or at worst be a harmless source for cat videos.
The weight distribution guy killed me. What about people who go to the bathroom sir??? What about the drink carts??? Sir what about SW Airlines who don't even assign seats on their tickets???? Sir?????? At what point does the airline get your PRECISE WEIGHT sir?!?!?!? LOL
We cabin enigineers can confirm those trolleys are deliberately made as heavy as possible, by making extra room for snacks. This way we ensure that the aircraft will crash if you, as a passenger do not buy snacks, and as many as possible. It's all a conspiracy from Big Snacks Co. - either passengers buy nomnoms, or we make sure they're kaput!
@@beeble2003 Fly first class. You might be more likely to die, but they give you all the booze you can guzzle and all the snacks you can crunch. Changed my freaking life. Didn't put my mask back on once through two entire flights.
Your channel is incredible! Thank you so very much for all your great videos and information you give us! I’m 37 years old and after seeing these ppl with their “FACTS” I weep for the future!!!!🤣🤣🤣
My dad owned a small DA40 and has told me multiple times it isnt flying thats the hard part, its landing that requires the most skill. Still completely different planes.
It's like driving a car, once you learn it becomes second nature and you know what buttons to press, in what sequence - how the aircraft feels as you handfly, the specific autopilot system, etc. As mentioned above, landing is what really takes skill.
Love your sarcasm!! I’ve been in aviation for 22 years (AP working on my IA) and I get asked some of the dumbest questions. Even after I explain that what they’re saying is wrong they refuse to believe me. It gets to the point where my head hurts and I walk away. Fly safe.
@74 Gear... 9:50, now, even though his strategy here is actually, against what you said, almost 100% effective, I want to let you know how to do this even *better*. Instead of doing the Water thing and all that, you can actually just tell the fire "No". By doing so the Fire is not allowed to legally touch or harm you in any kind or form, which will make you completely safe, while also not stumbling through the Cabin blindly. The same should work with the smoke and the forces of a 750.000 pound Aircraft smashing into the ground at 500 mph btw. Don't actually tell them tho, Fire, smoke and kinetic impacts hate this trick!
@@memelord705 Exactly! Use the power of positive energy! Not to be confused with the ~20 GJ of kinetic energy of the crash impact, which will definitely kill you.
I wanna know what these tik-tok influencers are smoking to come up with these theories.....so I can avoid it of course. I like that you remain professional while taking these videos and breaking them down to expose the falsehoods these clowns are spreading. Safe travels and clear skies!
Notice the crazy eyes, loud voices etc? That’s American News Anchor 101, they are interested in pulling in the maximum amount of views, and fear sells.
One note on center of gravity -- the ratio of just the dry weight of a commercial jet to ALL humans on the plane can be about 1000:1. So it's likely that the change in the center of gravity will be miniscule compared to the changes in the center of lift that occur as a normal part of flying. Meanwhile, the ratio of the dry weight of a cessna to a single human is around 9:1.
I mean, even at that, planes can be trimmed and re-trimmed mid-flight. Even IF the weight distribution was off enough to cause trouble, the pilots could just trim the plane and fix it.
I love how you can make just about any part of your job about the free food! The ridiculousness of thinking that your weight can effect a 500,000 lb to 900,000 lb aircraft is just crazy. It is like thinking that a mouse running around would effect the weight distribution and handling of your sports car.
I randomly got your channel recommended and it's really nice to see you (as a professional pilot) debunking that stuff, which also helps to ease more the fears that people often have about flying
After the Kegworth Air Crash in the UK, there was considerable research to look at why some passengers survived whilst others died. One significant finding was that those in the brace position had a much better chance of surviving then those who were not.
A good friend of mine retired a couple of years ago as a first officer on the A-300 with Fedex. He was a Naval Aviator before that and also flew with commuter for a period of time when he got out of the Navy. He was proud to wear his uniform and of his occupation. The final years of his career he told me he would change out of his uniform into regular casual attire prior to entering a terminal or public area. Although, flying freighters, he did not encounter the traveling public very much but, he said he lost all tolerance for the stupid questions and rediculous comments people would approach him with. Your video definitely confirms this. These people are so confidently wrong it's unbelievable. Sad but true, an off duty pilot leaving the Fedex facility in Memphis one year was murdered as he drove through the gate, still in uniform. Another reason he changed clothes. Pretty scary.
Thank you for the facts. Amazing that these youngsters' videos continue to be allowed by the internet when others that really are factual are quickly pulled. Thank you for your brilliant combination of knowledge, professionalism and humor. 👍🏼
The guy who said that changing seats was bad was obviously a victim of my family on all public transport, where my parents ask to move seats because they don’t like it. To that guy, my sincerest condolences
As an aircraft mechanic and aeronautical engineering student these are always infuriatingly interesting but I do have a few common trends. The crash position “fact” gets thrown around a lot and my favorite response has always been the crash experiment “Big Flo”. A 727 purposely crashed to test as much as they can about airline crashes including brace position. I highly recommend looking it up as the whole thing is quite interesting but they actually test the knees up position. The test dummy was the worst one off or close to if memory serves. Similarly the “back of the plane is safest” is a wonderful misrepresentation of data
The seat thing made me laugh. I've been on so many half empty flights that everyone changed seats and crew were asking if people wanted to move so they had whole rows to themselves. Walking and stretching which is recommended on flights.
I do remember a time when I was asked to change seats on an airplane because it was a large plane and there were few people on board, but they had somehow made it so that almost every passenger was on the left side of the plane. The pilot came on and asked about 10 people to move over to the right side of the plane just to make his flying experience nicer.
happened on my flight as well back in May in a Dash 8. everyone somehow ended up sitting at the very front of the plane. pilot came out and asked if he could have some volunteers to sit farther in the back as the plane was too front heavy.
I've had that happen before too. Everyone was really spaced out so the flight attendants asked us if we could all just sit closer to the middle for takeoff and then once we were in the air they let us go sit where we wanted.
This is what happens when most people now a days are overweight or obese. Check out what the FAAs average passenger weight (for calculation) was 25-years ago compared to the current day average. It’s in the FARs too.
Absolutely hilarious! These people need to go on a professional pilot and/or cabin crew training course! Well done Kelsey, for giving them factual information, they sure needed it! Love your sarcasm!
I'd rather let them all board a plane, auto pilot it to cruising altitude, and then remove the auto pilot and let them show each other 'how it's done' as they remove themselves from the gene pool.
Well, it's more like their viewers should prefer courses. The whole point of sensationalized fake information is not about giving actual advice, but about milking time (-> advert money) out of receptive viewers, as cheaply as possible. Scamming.
Indeed. All the more reason to remove them. Misinforming intentionally for monetary gain is even worse than out of stupidity because they believe they're helping.
One of my CFIs used to fly Caravelles. He said that on one of his flights, pretty much everyone got up at the same time and got in line for the bathroom, and he started having to put in a lot of nose down trim. He asked the flight attendants what was going on and apparently almost the entire plane was waiting in line outside the bathroom. But even in such an extreme situation, nothing happened.
Great series. Most people get this wrong. Firefighters use compressed air not oxygen. Oxygen near an ignition source is a no no. Keep up the good work.
@@74gear it is literally the most common mistake people make in talking about firefighting gear. I've even seen professional public information officers make that mistake. but I'm sure there's plenty of subject matter for fire tik toks.
the pursuit of popularity is out of control. it will be interesting if one of these false advise givers gets sued due to someone following their guidance and getting injured.
United 232 definitely caught my ear. I met Capt Haynes at a Marine Corps safety stand down and shook his hand. His story held me captivated WAY more than the movie and almost as much as meeting SgtMaj Kellog USMC Medal of Honor recipient who jumped on a grenade in Nam to save the rest in his fighting position. Al Haynes Sully And others are great men!
Omg, I love the sarcasm! You normally have a very Bill Nye the science guy kind of politeness to you when correcting falsehoods, but it appears your threshold for tik tok fuckery has hit zero and you finally unleashed the real Kelsey
Interestingly the second guy had some points that you discounted. There have been several studies of plane crashes that do suggest the back third of the plane is safer, up to 40% safer as he said, in a crash (maybe not plowing into the side of a mountain, but still Popular Mechanics 2007 study of plane crashes, look it up). And it is advisable to breath through a wet cloth to help filter out some smoke, it's not as good as real respirators though. For the safest spot in the plane, you probably want to be in the middle row in the back third right next to an emergency exit, since other studies indicated those were also better places to sit.
There's too many factors to really calculate this haha. A really bad plane crash might even complete eviscerate the plane, literally destroying it and making survival just about impossible.
No shit, you sit further away from the point of impact, you might be safer. Presenting an obvious fact like it's revolutionary and presenting it with a ridiculous example that doesn't even work with that fact is just sad. No one is surviving a commercial plane crashing into the side of a mountain nose-first at cruising speed.
He was referring to a best case scenario, where the plane is landing but under some sort of stress, like a mechanical problem or a weather issue. Crashing into a mountain is not a good example, as most of those kinds of accidents had few if any survivors. And then depending on how the plane hits the ground and breaks up, it might not make a difference where your sitting. The flight mentioned in the video with the three pilots had fatalities and survivors all throughout the plane, even though it broke into three pieces.
A wet cloth us better than nothing, but speaking as a fire marshal you want to avoid breathing in any smoke, as the biggest danger from smoke is the temperature, you can seriously burn the inside of your esophagous and lungs. It's best to keep low and get out as soon as possible rather than spend time wetting a cloth.
I’m a commercial truck driver and I really enjoy watching your videos. I haul aircraft aluminum out of Georgia straight to Boeing in Auburn Washington. I believe you mentioned having truck driver fans in a previous video. I think it’s because we’re fascinated with what that life is like on the other side of the spectrum LOL. I’m planning on earning my private pilot certificate. I’ve always been enthusiastic about aviation. Keep the videos up man thank you! 🤙🏻
1:37 keeping this for blackmail purposes lmfao. But seriously, thanks for sharing, Kelsey. Not only informative, but also entertaining as always 😂😂 you help me keep some of my inspiration for the art. I started flying in July of 2021 and I just solo'd again today for the fourth or fifth time. I don't always have a lot of time or money to fly, so it's been slow and I'm trying not to let that get to me. My instructor always tells me to take my time; "we're trying to land the plane, not end the flight." It's been more than just aviation advice for me. I use this thinking a lot more, now. My next flight is gonna be me showing up alone and doing a few laps -- no instructor there on the field or anything. I can't explain how excited I am that it's gonna happen, and I'm sure most people here have been through it, so they understand. I just have to say thank you so much for giving us this extra sect of aviation to enjoy. I seriously love every video you put out and I couldn't imagine how cool it'd be to hang out with you. Keep the blue side up, my friend. Much love and thanks 💜
Your comments on the smoke inhalation and the wet shirt were exactly what I was thinking. For the record, firefighters don't carry oxygen tanks into fires, we use compressed air tanks
I think the guy poorly worded it. He didn't mean to pull the shirt up Cornholio style. Wet the front of your shirt and use it to cover your mouth. The wet shirt would help to filter out some of the smoke. Same thing they teach in fire drills. That being said in a plane crash most people are going to panic and not remember any of this.
@@NickTimmer Our trust in flight is such that many dismiss the importance of emergency directives. Paying attention is our last defense against the game we play with gravity. We win many but lose a few even though we have the game pretty well figured out.
Love your generally ceaseless positivity, but I'm glad you took a firmer tone addressing these videos. Someone could actually get hurt heeding advice like this
To be fair, I've been in flights where the flight attendants told passengers that they weren't allowed to switch seats because of the plane balance. There was probably another reason, but that is what they said.
Well it is an issue on small planes. I’ve had them do that too (like going around and asking individual passenger weights for it), and they had to move some people around. Idk how they foresaw it would be an issue though, but it does happen on small planes at least.
@@OR56 I’m not sure what type of plane it was specifically, I *think* it was a propeller plane but I’m not sure since I was like 15. It was one of the ones meant to hop people short distances between cities though (like that one was between Albany and I want to say Newark? My family usually flew Continental so it would have to be Newark, yeah?)
@@tisvana18 Yes. It would be a small plane then. So it would have a semi sensitive center of gravity. But big planes, it doesn't really matter unless everyone is sitting on one side of the plane or something stupid like that.
As a former long-time flight attendant with a major airline I truly honestly hope nobody believes these absolute nut cases. They obviously have ZERO training or knowledge of aircraft emergency procedures. 🌴☀️🌴 ✈️
It might be the best debunk video from you yet. I wish you would have added a scene of "assisting" the person off the plane at the emergency exit dousing themselves in water. But, I understand you have a budget.
thanks, Kelsey you made my Sunday!!! I'm literally cracking up watching your videos theses "experts" are really something else... Please keep it going your videos are very interesting and informative... Although I'm not a pilot or a manned aircraft pilot. I really enjoy all your videos
SDRs (special drawing rights) are basically how trade is conducted involving more than 2 types of currency. This is used so that if you crash, regardless of what part of the world you crash in (because yes that matters) you will get the same compensation in value. Great vid!
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"They want you to die, so you can't sue them."
Yes, because family members can't sue.
And they don’t get more money for your death than you would for whatever more modest injuries you got.
@@sallycinnamon5370 They don’t, unless the state has companionship laws. Depending on hours quick the crash happened, they also won’t get money for pain and suffering.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
Also, how come no one has sued them for trying to kill you? God these tik toks are the worst
@@sallycinnamon5370 Let's not forget the insane cost of creating a plane and all that
"When we land we are typically not on fire."
I would definitely fly with an airline that had that as an advertising slogan.
If your expectations are low you don't get disappointed eh. Ryanair should definitely use this.
@@bloomylicious On Ryanair you can sit in the non explodey section, but it's a five quid surcharge.
I once had to fly Easyjet, being on fire would have improved that experience.
@@bloomylicious Ryanair advertisement: We are re-defining what it means to "land."
Wet T-shirts for every landing could be a thing.
To the girl in the first tiktok: I’m pretty sure it is more expensive to buy a plane and train a crew of pilots and engineers than to pay out insurance.
yeah
Plus, nobody is gonna want to work for the airline if suicide is company policy
She's gonna get Jayus'd
She just watched Fight Club for the first time. Lol
the brace position is designed specifically to avoid head and neck injury
As a flight attendant, I was taught on how to serve people on board and how to always be polite and professional. But my instructor puts *HEAVY* emphasis that serving passengers are secondary - that ensuring the safety of all souls onboard are our utmost duty.
After all those training, I can't help but feel irritated (if not offended) when some random TikTok-ers who (presumably) has next to zero experience in flight, let alone training, said that "Airlines want passengers to die so they can't sue".
Trust me, if we DO want y'all to take a dip, flight attendants wouldn't have spent so much time and effort to learn that many safety measures!
It is insulting. It's just as insulting as when the anti-science crowd say BS heavily laced with conspiratorial suspicion. People don't study for over a decade to do whatever BS they're pushing, just like flight attendants and other professionals charged with human safety don't go through all the training they do just to ensure the public gets hurt etc. It's infuriating.
Reminds me of the current state of women’s healthcare. A bunch of people with no medical or scientific experience trying to control the narrative. Thank God I hope most people don’t believe these foolish tictockers!!
Exactly. If airlines wanted passengers dead on impact, we flight attendants wont need to pass safety tests so our flying licenses don't get revoked.
That's exactly what an airline would hire someone to say!! *FRAUD* They want us to believe that you need to learn safety measures, *but you don't!!!*
The most ridiculous thing about these Tiktok is that they are Americans talking about plane crashes... The last commercial air crash in the United States was in 2009. Yes, 13 years ago.
Most American fears of flying comes from Hollywood and a certain… incident, back in 2001. But no, we’ll gladly drive a car around everywhere. The last car crash was only… a few seconds ago or so.
@@casual_speedrunner1482 no, most people's fear from flying comes from... Flying, like, not being in the ground, thousands of meters up in the air? All the things youve mentioned only play on this fear, but they don't really make it for most.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator the most terrifying thing about flying is that, in the off chance (ultra rare) that something goes wrong, it's almost a guarantee that everyone onboard will die. That's why people are afraid. And also the thought that it's in someone else's hand (they forget that modern flights are automated for the most part).
@@edgelord121 not everyone in a car is driving it, and yes they would all die, this is very evident by being thousands of meters up in the air, it all comes back to both death and altitude, both primal human fears.
@@casual_speedrunner1482 Airplane crash would kill a hundred and something people, a car crash kills one or two people usually. But most car crashes are also just injuries and not deaths. And of course we’re not afraid of cars, we drive them daily and we’re in control. And you don’t have to drive a few hours straight most of the time hopefully. Gas aside, driving is free and there’s not always bad traffic.
I'm glad people like Kelsey exists. There's so much misinformation (read:BS) on social media, and he totally alleviates any fears I have on flying.
Kelsey and a lot of other RUclips pilots as well. I watch 3 of them for explanation of aviation. I learned that flying an aircraft consists of procedures, procedures and more procedures. All done through checklists. That is why flying is so safe. Once pilots deviate from procedures, that is where you should fear their performance and handling of a plane.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Even in flying small planes, (like the Cessna 172,) there are checklists and procedures. And these planes are meant for fun, for training, and for short, uncomplicated trips.
Commercial flights, such as charters, cargo flights, and other, have even more checklists, procedures, flight plan requirements, and so on.
Airlines.... at least double all those checklists and procedures.
That's ON TOP of all of the federally regulated procedures that govern the actual flying.
And that's just the flying part. Maintenance and repair adds several additional layers to the regulatory morass.
You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than being in a plane crash
Basic math: look at the statistics, figure out how much you fly, and that should be enough. Most of those tikkertonkers turdlings are doing nothing but to regurgitate the plot of the first seasons of Mythbusters. No, seriously, go watch it from season one, and suddenly you'll realize where these mindless drones subsist from.
@@nb31b Unless it's ryanair lol
“Planes have a sensitive centre of gravity and so moving around to change seats dramatically shifts it and causes a crash”
Clearly this guy never even saw flight attendants in-flight *pushing along heavy trolleys of food and beverages*
Lmao. True. I have one on Air Asia where I can actually sit on an empty seat with no issues.
Also the heavy trolley and sometimes we’d have a line of people waiting near the restroom. There were no issues so far.
This logic reminds me of the weird dream I had where I was on this weird plane where instead of emergency exits, some people had to sit next to these levers that were used to _flap the wings_ and keep the plane in the air, and one person stopped flapping their wing and we crashed.
Correct me if im wrong but it's more about the luggage placement, isnt it?
@@SnailSnail622 you could say that the mechanism is like a rowboat where you can’t move unless you’ve been able to use both sides properly. Old rowboats from history is designed to be rowed by different men with 1 rudder each.
Me walking to the bathroom and killing everyone on the plane lol
Not a pilot, though I’ve done some ground school education, and while all of this is obviously nonsense, I think this is also brings up a bigger problem with TikTok. The amount of false information that I’ve seen on that site is INSANE, especially when its primary age demographic is teens who don’t typically double check their information
You know what's even worse? Gen Z (the Gen after Millenials) use TikTok like we use Google. They literally use it as a search engine and don't question the info that the Algorithms give them.
@@07Flash11MRC I'm Gen Z and I use Google and RUclips. I just don't think short horizontal-oriented videos are credible...
@@miggyaviles005 "I'm Gen Z and I use Google and RUclips": Then, statistically speaking, you are the minority.
@@07Flash11MRC To be honest, I do know that RUclips and Google isn't good enough, I'm just lazy, but that's a problem for me to fix.
Person here who wrote a lot about post truth in uni, this has actually been an increasing issue with ALL of the internet, because of the way social media platforms' algorithms work now + the way media has pushed this "both sides" thing on news shows etc, even when they pit people who have an uneducated opinion based on their feelings against actual scientists. On social media, even if you look beyond the people you follow, most of them will only recommend information similar to what you've already consumed. So if you consume a lot of not fact-based alarmist content, that's what gets recommended to you. Of course, tiktok's algorithm is a lot more efficient in doing that then say, twitter or ig a lot of the times. There's also somehow, a lot less media literacy being taught, which would be really important cause a lot of the times people on tiktok pose as being an authority figure on a subject despite not actually being one.
Even if the airline was only interested in saving money on liability suits for a crash, they'd still prefer you survive. If you die, your estate or next of kin can file a wrongful death claim, the judgements for which are much larger then bodily injury and emotional distress claims.
Stop it with your common sense and facts.
@@ec7568 ikr who does he think he is SMDH
@@tonyaviles5308 only sheeple have common sense
The usual stupidy - the cure is worse then the disease.
noooo airplanes want EVERYONE to die thats why they do all that chem trail stuff! If everyone on the planet is dead then nobody can sue!
Kelsey has adopted a healthy amount of sarcasm and sass lately. It's great lmao.
he’s getting sick of these peoples shit 😂
I agree. 9:50 was the funniest part of these videos I’ve ever seen
@@PengySweety8 It's honestly just frustrating because you finish mopping up one conspiracy theory and then another person who fells for the SAME one repeats it and you have to debunk it all over again. Disinformation and misinformation is rampant as hell these days. Whack-a-mole.
Do commercial pilots get nicknames like fighter pilots? Because if so, then he'll definitely be Captain Sassy-Pants.
He’s all done with these folks LOL
Mythbusters some years back tested that crash position designed to kill you thing. Guess what. If you have room to do the full proper position it is one of the _best_ positions to be in and even in the most crammed seats the closer you get to it the better off you are. Almost like a lot of research went into finding the best way to keep people alive and with as few injuries as possible!
Well yeah. If you don’t crash head first into a solid object from a good distance in front of you then you’re probably going to have a much easier time surviving. That’s why you prop your head against the seat in front of you. You lean on it so you don’t slam into it from a distance. Compeatly logical. People forget that planes don’t have the same kind of seat belts as cars. They don’t catch your upper body the way car seat belts do. You will hit the seat in front of you, or of you are short your own knees maybe. But you can prevent yourself from gaining enough momentum to kill you by leaning agains tthe thing you are inevitably going to crash into. I swear these people don’t logic. Thank god we had mythbusters to test these things.
But don't you understand? She has no medical, engineering, or piloting knowledge. Nor has she done any research into effective crash survival methods. Therefore, she is unbiased or something.
@@grahamreece519 oh true, law of large numbers, get a bunch of untrained, intentionally inept tiktokers, average out their assumptions and baseless claims, and you'll eventually arrive at the truth :p
@@grahamreece519 unbiased and completely clueless
In Europe a pilot flew his plane into the side of a mountain on purpose. Everybody died.
Watching these people just rant about nonsense with “mysterious music” and irrelevant stock footage in the background hurts my soul. Thanks for discussing this stuff.
Yeaa it's very irritating
You could try not watching them. Don't give these idiots a platform.
@@sarcasticguy4311 no one here is it’s not like we giving them views
@@user-ze2zm4sz1b The us has a drug problem because of the government not the cartels also statistically I can assume half of america has tik tok which isnt as bad as even saudi arabia where 9/10 people have the app. also everyone uses drugs such as caffeine and sugar.
I lost it at the “centre of gravity” bs. I was on a flight from vancouver to tokyo for a school trip in 2015 and at one point basically everyone swapped seats because it was a weekday so it was pretty empty besides our group of like 60 high schoolers. Almost everyone swapped seats to sit next to their friends on a 10 hour flight.
The same thing happened on the way back.
Small aircraft it's extremely noticeable, flying my PA-28 Piper Cherokee, you have to follow cg weight and balance checks, or else it'll bank the plane in an undesirable fashion.
@@UHK-Reaper I just love that the tik tok guy thinks his measly 200 ish or less pounds has any affect on a massive commercial plane
also most modern big airliners have trim tanks in the tail and do activelly transfer fuel between the center/wings and the tail tank to adjust cg in real time.. plus its also aerodynamically trimming the tail constantly for level flight
He's gotta be trying to bait a response, right? There's no way people actually think that
@@skeliton7367 I mean, he definitely could be. Or he just did the tiniest bit of googling and never realized that weight distribution is important only in tiny little planes.
This is halarious. It's also a bit sad, because we all know there's people out there who think these people did their research, and believe these are true.
hilarious*
Well
Shit
No, I’m not sure there are. I think every single human is smarter than tiktokers. Even newborns.
@@30noir *hilarious (do it right if you are going correct others)
TikTok influencers are just pandering to a clueless audience with no interest in what is or is not true.
I was on a flight where an attendant gave me an extra sodie pop causing the plane be unbalanced and nose dive into a moutain, which was great ‘cause when I survived I knew I was gonna get my 10 cajillion dollar, but when we landed they set the plane on fire, which then I knew I was in trouble. I couldn’t see through my shirt once I pulled it over my head.
You were probably also sitting in the back of the plane (because you’d 100% survive there) and held that seated position with your feet on the seat in front of you. Like the Tic Tockers explained, the brace position will snap your neck and back too! 😱
Oh, you were maybe on the plane that Tom Hanks landed on the water (in Seattle, was it?! Or Berlin maybe …) to put out the fire and avoid the Alps or was it the Andes, the mountains anyhow… (can’t remember) ???
If you'd just peed out the window or emergency exit you wouldn't have hit that mountain.
😆😆😆😆
Same.
Welp... THAT does it!
If my motorcycle can't get me there, then I guess there's nothing important enough for me to bother. ;o)
"Normally, my landing feels like a crash"
Kelsey, you killed me bro. Great content keep up the good work
Just on the last one, the wet tshirt to cover your nose and mouth helps as a temporary filter as the smoke particles cling to the water particles in the fabric. It’s probably good for about 2-5 minutes, enough time to evacuate the plane. I think the last TikTok missed the part where you then start moving to the exit after wetting you new fabric face covering.
I just commented the same, that guy was at least partially right, the others were flat out wrong lol. During WW1 an unknown man saved countless lives after discovering a urine soaked cloth was effective enough protection from mustard gas
Pretty sure you would just waterboard yourself.
Yes he missed the part where he, too, should have gone to the exit.
@@Valansch No, water boarding isn’t the same as breathing through a damp piece of fabric. If you put the fabric over your mouth and then started pouring water over it, then yes, that is water boarding. The point of water boarding is to have a consistent stream of water being applied to the face covering.
@@Valansch As Buffer stated, waterboarding is when you pour water over a piece of fabric over your face (which gives the illusion of drowning).
I also assume he means pulling the front of your shirt up so it covers your mouth & nose (while not exposing your bare torso to flames).
Doing that could genuinely help temporarily reduce the risk of passing out from Smoke Inhalation & reduce the overall damage done to your lungs from smoke inhalation. Obviously a proper mask/breathing device is better, but in a pinch it is measurably better than nothing.
"they make sure you die on impact"
Yes because companies can't get sued when their victims are dead.
They can get sued for so much more by family
@@rieefed that's the joke
Let’s also forget that planes cost, like a shit ton
Yeah. Airlines know about legal liability. You don't sign a waiver that says "hey board at your own risk" because no one would get on.
Why haven't serial killers found this loophole yet :D
As a pilot it is incredibly infuriating sometimes talking to people like those in these tiktoks. Using your social media to spread misinformation like this is not just irresponsible but also extremely dangerous.
I thought adam west was an actor
@@rblxtutorials1881 I'm a man of many talents. Most of them hidden.
*I also thought you were dead*
@@StrangerE0ns the reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated
@@jgreenberg you’re a fucking genius
Thank you, Kelsey, for countering this misinformation. I've never experienced Tiktok, and I now have another reason to be proud of that. If what's shown here is representative of even 5% of the content, it makes 4chan look like an infallible oracle and font of knowledge.
Another thing about the switching seats. Planes REALLY like to stay in the air once they are up there, so a slightly messed up weight distribution isn' that big a deal unless your in a very small plane.
Exactly
I we mean *VERY* small plane like less then 15 seats
@@beartheconfused6798 I think they ment private plane snd mabe 2-6 seats
you're* also good comment
It happened on a l410 turbolet before, everyone ran to the cockpit after seeing an alligator causing the COG to change and the plane crashed, but its a small plane and it took every single passenger to change the COG so yeah.
Jetblue flight 292 also had every passenger move to the back of the plane to alter its center of gravity but it didnt crash.
The fact that Chad survives being burned alive but dies from a little bit of smoke is actually quite disappointing. I EXPECTED MORE FROM YOU, CHAD!
That Chad is annoying and to be honest he has a very “punchable” face
Yeah rip chad.
A DISHONOR TO HIS NAME
Forvige me
That's just how fire works my guy. Smoke kills you way before the flames have a chance.
Kelsey’s facial expressions and sarcasm are what make the video.
Eyeroll at 4:26 🙄🤣
@@rachellofthouse549 that was hilarious
Every time.
Always!
Exactly, they’re the best part of these videos🤣
I never got to finish this, cleared my watch history, and now it's thankfully back. Though I haven't finished, I still wanted to say thanks for talking about these. I've only been on one round trip across the country, and frankly, I'm still not fond of flying, but I know in the future I'll have more flights to visit friends and family. However, what kept me calm is knowing how many hours - if not years - of their lives pilots and crew spend in the air. If they can do that, I can, too. Debunking bad flight related info goes a long way in helping people who are scared.
As a scientist, I love watching people from other professions get mad at the bullshit random people make up about them.... for once.... keep it up
Sam it’s simultaneously hilarious and deeply concerning
'scientist' You might as well have just said 'human'.
@@mechanomics2649 Tf are you talking about
@@mechanomics2649 yeah what you know about dawg
Well the term “scientist” is so broad, it could mean anything. Y’all who work for the FDA are nazis.
The funniest part to me, is as a person who has a fear of flying I already knew all of these “facts” were bullshit. My fear is an irrational fear. Planes are safe. I’m just too anxious to fly without sedation.
This is exactly where I am. I know it's irrational, but other parts of my brain don't seem to care.
@@mechanomics2649 my therapist and I refer to it as my lizard brain, the part that is mostly instinct and irrational. Makes sense. Hell I know that if I arrive at the airport alive I’ve already survived the most dangerous part of air travel. Still scares me for no reason.
What I fear about flight is the ticket cost, and I find this fear completely reasonable.
@@RageUnchained i thought lizard brain was an instinctual fear? You know genetic holdovers from when our first ancestors were getting mauled by like literally everything?
@@mechanomics2649 me too
I was on a "puddle jumper", with probably 18 seats, there were 4 passengers and of course all assigned to the first two rows for ticketing purposes. Pilot asked 2 of us (me and my bestie) to move to the back rows to redistribute weight (honestly, the guys in the front were large men), no problem whatsoever, we understood the command. Everything worked out fine
...especially when we crashed into a mountain because as we were at the back we survived.
@@trailersic lmao
In the case og small planes I think it makes sense but for big planes it just doesn't
@@loonatic4529 And even then, the pilots will just advise you calmly that redistribution of weight is safer not scaremonger like this lad did and be like *"OMG YOU'RE GONNA CRASH THE PLANEEE!!!!!!"*
@@trailersic PLEASE
The "brace position will break your neck/back" is the most insidious imo. Because it sort of feels true for a lot of people. It is just when you look at it/think about it, I believe most people don't consider the seatbelt and how high the chance for head injuries is when staying upright.
I must admit that when I heard it, I did really consider if it was right for a while.
I guess that's why the airbag is there? To mitigate excessive head trauma?
I dunno. Throwing shit at the wall
I was once informed by one of these “experts” that it’s illegal to smoke on a plane because they pump oxygen into it. My eyes rolled so hard, they ached for days.
They stopped smoking on airlines because they did away with fresh air vents in the cabin. With -80 a temperature outside the had to turn the heat up to around 200° and this used more fuel.
@@longwindingroad Oh, really? From a 1989 CBC story: "The ban is part of the Non-Smokers' Health Act. Benoît Bouchard, the transport minister, says the rule is necessary to protect the health of airline workers and passengers bothered by smoke. The big airlines are pressuring the government NOT to apply the new rule to international flights. They say smokers from Europe and Japan in particular will switch airlines rather than spend hours in the air without a cigarette. CBC reporter Deborah Lamb says Air Canada fears the ban will cost the company $40 million a year. The government gives in. The law being passed today makes only flights within Canada smoke-free." You'd think they'd save even more fuel on international flights, no?
@@longwindingroad I am quite sure it's because there had been a few crash because something started to burn in lavatory (toilet)...
@@longwindingroad Wrong on all points.
- Smoking ban was part of the overall push for smoking bans everywhere, as Flora said.
- Airliner cabins still get constant fresh air piped in. That hasn't changed.
- Jet engines generate lots of waste heat. No need to use extra fuel for cabin heat.
@@patheddles4004 I was trying to make up something with misinformation. Now you taught me something new. I didn't know fresh air was really piped in. I was saying there was actual vents near the windows you could open( not possible).
"Changing seats is lethal"
How did I survive my home flight when I was walking multiple times to left and right because I wanted to film the alpine scenery on both sides.
The plane was half empty and no one cared.
It's. Almost right on really small planes that are pushing the envelop. In large planes passanger weight doesn't matter, but, if for example, a military cargo plane were hauling tanks that weren't strapped in and were able to move left or right, the 60+ ton weight of the tank would likely cause issues as it moves back and forth. That is obviously a ridiculous scenario, though. I've not heard many stories of large cargo moving around in planes, but I'm sure it would cause extreme issues.
@@xxhowisuxx this has caused a few crashes but i am yet to meet a human who weighs a few thousand kgs
@@AviationWithAbrar your mo-
@@shekeler lmfao
I love it so much when the plane is empty. I still remember how amazing it was to fly from Lisboa (Portugal) to Dakar (Senegal) on an Airbus A330 at probably 20% capacity. I slept comfortably on three seats and I could move from a side of the plane to the other, to enjoy the view on both sides.
The fight against misinformation will be constant, and i appreciate your continued effort
I tried reporting the first video and tik tok said it didn’t “count” as harmful and misleading information lol
it's like this is a free fountain of content
@@InTheNameOfLife1 did the comments seem to believe it or call out the BS?
Hi Kelsey, my Grandad was groundcrew. An engineer. He used to say a plane on the ground and the crew walk away an OK landing. A plane that lands and can take off again a great landing. One where he didn't have to get the spanners out a perfect one. He said he never saw a perfect landing.
"If you were born on an airliner in the US in this decade and never got off you would encounter your first fatal accident when you were 2,300 years of age and you would still have a 29% chance of being one of the survivors."
- Les Lautman, Safety Manager Boeing Commercial Airplane Company, 1989.
On average, of course.
Also this is an inaccurate statement even with an average in mind, because this is assuming the plane is never decommissioned. If it is decommissioned then you would be sitting in a recycling plant awaiting your daily peanuts as they tear pieces of metal and old parts from the plane to re-use or throw out. I know it's a throwaway comment to express the level of safety... but like come on there's factors you gotta consider.
Very confused by this. What?
@@AmyAndThePup It means that there is a REALLY low chance the plane is going to crash, even if you stayed on the plane your whole life. And even then, you could be a survivor.
@@alexanderelderhorst2107 Hey I mean, you still wouldn't die on the plane. Likely they would just find you sitting there and force you to get out.
Or ypo could crash at your very first flight right after take off. The statistical possibility mrans very little if you are dead.
I love how he’s so open and honest about his addiction to the good snacks.
Has he ever presented a list of his favourite snacks?!
@@Soundbrigade I don't think so, but he definitely should.
Snacks are part of Kelsey's preflight check list lolol.
He's a snack Niffler.
addictions is a good word for it if you ask the people who have flown with me!
I’m an extremely nervous flyer, so when my daughter became a FA, I was terrified. Over the last few years I have relaxed…somewhat..but not really. (BTW, You’re right. FAs love turbulence. She said 1) get to sit down 2) no one asks for anything 3) it’s funny to watch the synchronized head movements from behind- now you know why 😉) But back to the point. I typically avoid Airline related content on RUclips b/c it’s typically stress and fear inducing. As a FA mom, I don’t need the added anxiety. I discovered your channel a couple of months ago and now I have a Kelsey addiction 😂. Your videos are having a positive impact on the fear I’ve been harboring. I’m feeling way more confident in the plane and pilot’s abilities. It’s like you washed out all the irrational thoughts and assumptions and replaced them with a feeling of reassurance. Thank you 🙏
I was impressed by aviators ability when I was attached to an anti-aircraft missile system. We were on the top of a hill and we had our missiles in depression to track aircraft coming down the valley at several hundred knots (they were maybe a hundred feet off the valley floor).
@@peterking8586 I hope Denise's daughter isn't a flight attendant on one of those airplanes...
So I have a question for your daughter: Do they get trained how to set a airplane on fire after a crash or is this the responsibility of the pilot?
well Denise, I am so happy to hear that, glad you enjoy the videos and hopefully your daughter is enjoying being a FA
@@demacherius1 , 100% the pilot. :) She'll be too busy sitting in her special, non-flammable jump seat.
Aircraft fueler out of ATL here … watching this video ANNOYED the crap outta me! These people don’t understand how much training EACH AND EVERY PERSON that TOUCHES a plane has to go through just to keep an EMPTY plane sitting on the ramp in between flights safe… much less a plane full of passengers. Safety is priority… we take it very seriously so this is just a bunch of BS!!!
I always keep an umbrella in my carry-on. In the event of an emergency, I can simply open the window and parachute to safety ✌️
Hehe. 🤭
AKA The Poppins option
If you also said a spoonful of sugar, I would have believed you. Now I’m calling shenanigans.
Mary Poppins mode engaged.
Im mary poppins yall
I really laughed at this. Kelsey's sarcasm was set to max.
I almost died laughing when Kelsey said he would facilitate your leaving the aircraft if you stop in front of him. I would do the exact same thing if I ever had to.
Canadians would be in big trouble, politely waiting for other to proceed them out of the cabin.
Yeah...with your foot! 🙂
That made me lol also. I wonder if after making these videos the these tik tokers are like “yeah! Spitting out the knowledge. Going viral!” Yeah - going viral for being fantastically stupid. Lol. Morons these days.
Ditto
@@jimblack5153 I'd be screaming, "This! Is! ... An emergency, get the hell off the plane!"
2 of my pilot friends once did a really dumb stunt in a cessna. Pretty much one guy was sitting in the rear seat, the other was flying. They would then switch place as in one would climb out of the pilot seat and into the back, and the other would climb into the pilot seat and fly the plane for a bit. They did this reckless move maybe 3 times over the course of 20 minutes, and the cessna barley reflected a change in weight/balance while they did this. Airplanes are indeed sensitive to weight changes, but if 2 people moving around in a tiny cessna changes nothing then switching seats in a large airliners will not do anything either.
1st girl didn't realize that the remaining families and such can actually sue the company still, probably have a higher chance of getting money from it as well.
Also, the water shirt thing works, you just have to put it over your mouth to breathe through. Of course, it's not going to be as effective as real equipment. But it's going to help a little bit.
She doesn’t know that families exist
@@grobble7321 that's because her family disowned her after realising how stupid of a child she was
Thank you! He was so on point until he completely misunderstood the t-shirt thing...
Have used the water shirt trick in an actual fire. It works quite well.
Nothing near a real respirator which filters out almost all the smoke (but you can still die of hypoxia) or SCBA (which is clean air in a tank) but it will get rid of most smoke particles and some toxic combustion byproducts like chlorine from burning PVC.
Also wet clothes take longer to catch fire.
“Planes have a sensitive center of gravity and so moving around to change seats dramatically shifts it and causes a crash” Dude has never seen someone go to the bathroom on a plane
Or watched people pace from one end of a 747 to the other on a flight from AUST to US. I mean, it's BORING!
Horizontal stabilizers have left the chat
This remind me of my last flight. Maybe a fifth of the seats empty, the crew is telling us where to seat so we don't block the emergency exits. So they send around 20 people to the back of the plane and one guy starts complaining to his partner that the back will be overweight and we will crash upon take off... Gosh I wanted to smack him and tell to shut up so badly haha.. Not that I'm afraid of flying as I fly roughly 10 times a year but it's not something I want to listen to on the plane haha
First flight I was on I was changing seats with two other youths to have a chance to look out the window and oh no! We didn't crash.
“Airlines are trying to kill your”
Maybe… But that doesn’t mean the pilot and the entire plane want to die.
Also, if you die in an airplane, the family would sue anyway.
599 likes and no comments
You have 747 likes. Let's keep it that way
what if u have no family
Well that’s why their designing a plane which drops the entire cabin so no one can report the the plane crashed
I learned a lot from Air Crash investigations. Mostly that there is never 1 cause. And depending on the cause(s), what side of the airplane is destroyed most. There is no fixed "safe" seat. It all depends on the circumstances
As a pilot. Honestly the only real spot that has a “high chance” of survival is near emergency exits. Less time on the plane as you can evacuate faster.
I remember that show worked out that on average you are more likely to survive a crash in the rear of a plane than the front, but that the survival conditions are so dependent on the type of crash that it's pointless choosing a seat based on the probability.
That first one is especially stupid: the Mythbusters tested that one 17 years ago and busted it! That position reduces injuries.
The "oh no, moving around the plane will change the center of gravity and cause a crash!" guy, that's definitely a "tell me you've never flown on a plane without telling me you've never flown on a plane" sort of deal. XD
She's probably not 17yr old, 🤣 so she did not know about myth busters
Ikr why would the pilot wanna kill there selves to
@@Mariana-ym6zf Well, MythBusters ran for 15+ seasons, so that’s… not really a valid argument, she could have seen _some_ episodes of the series growing up. Also, don’t discount the power of confirmation bias, she could have seen the episode and her brain dismissed it because it didn’t match her world view.
Also also, not saying I think their tests of the brace position were wrong or invalid, but another line of thought there could’ve been, ‘Oh, Jamie and Adam/The Build Team have been wrong before, I think they’re wrong on this one too.’ Because the gang did get myths wrong occasionally, went back and retested them, and reached different conclusions. And viewers challenged their results on their forums all the time. So she could have seen the episode and disagreed with their findings.
That said, she’s obviously a conspiracy theorist, which takes a particular mindset that isn’t exactly conducive to rationality, so who _knows_ what’s going on up there between her ears.
@@Mariana-ym6zf that makes no sense, i am 17 years old and i even remember watching that specific episode as well as all of the episodes that were available for me to watch at the time
That was such a great series. New hosts were introduced ... but it vanished. Poor ratings.
In the first clip, the way she says to sit instead is actually a way my school bus driver never said to sit. He said this is because since your knees are bracing against the seat, a crash causes your knees and legs (and therefore, your hips) to absorb all of the impact. There's a lot of really important arteries in there, so it can cause some pretty bad internal bleeding. I can only imagine how much worse that would be in a plane, as opposed to a school bus.
Yeah but that’s just a recipe for your knees slamming into your head causing massive injuries. The head is the place you want to get injured the least. It also cruches your spine because you are actively straining to hold this position instead of folding yourself together and lessening the strain by kepping all your limbs close together. It’s a horrible position. Any potential good you get fromit is immeadiately negated by the risk of simply not being able to hold it, and of course not having annything preventing your head from flying forwads to either hit your kees or the seat in front. A brain injury is far more dangerous than internal bleeding. Now a car doesn’t have the same struggles because of the nature of the seat belts used. You are prevented from flying forwards. Your seated area as well as your upper body is supported. There your main concern is actually being slammed backwards after hitting the seat belt so you want to make sure you are sitting with your back entierly against the back of the seat, and with your head rest correctly positioned to support your head. Since a lot of school busses still don’t have seat belts I would not reccomend this strategy for surviving a crash there. Bracing yourself against the seat in front of you is probably still the best strategy in that case.
The position she recommended is a good one if want to have your own knees knock all your teeth out
A long time ago (late 80's), I was on one of the small commuter planes. There were 4 passengers seats. It was the only time I have ever been asked what my weight was. Even though it was a dark and stormy night, I was able to watch the pilots change the radar distances to plan their way around the rain. It was one of the smoothest flights I've ever been on. Needless to say, it made a big impression on me.
I experienced something like that in early 90’s, but the pilot did not avoid the heavy snow storm he had found ….🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🥶🥶🥶🥶😱😱😱😱
Offtopic but isnt 74gear on one of the surviving victims of a plane crash of 1989. I think that's why he looks like halfburned. Wish you all the best!
@@onlinemodus What? Who?
@@srahhh I meant voldemort in the video
@@onlinemodus if thats true then this guys is a feckin madlad
6:14 This was about 15 years ago... I was on a Northwest Saab 340 puddle jumper from TOL to DTW (short flight, yes) and we did have a weight/balance issue on that flight. There were a number of us, including myself, that had to rearrange prior to takeoff to satisfy the imbalance. As I recall, that was a 2/1 configuration down the aisle, and it was not a full flight.
I've been on similar flights, from Madison to Chicago... Plane wasn't full and we had to rearrange before takeoff 👍
One time flying back from Europe on a 747 (short), they made everyone move to the very front seats in coach for takeoff and landing. We occupied 6 or 7 rows. That was all the people on the plane in coach. After takeoff, we were able to sit wherever we wanted. It was a magnificent flight as everyone had their own row of seats. It made sleeping very easy. We speculated that they had some heavy items in the cargo area and needed to get into the proper weight and balance envelope. So sometimes, a single person can make a difference, but it would be extremely rare.
As a side note, I once asked a captain if he could tell if people moved around and he said "no".
For what it's worth, I am a private pilot, so I do understand weight and balance.
Well said Kelsey, ! Am also a pilot and it is infuriating to learn from your channel all this rubbish spread by a bunch of people who obviously have no aviation experience. There is a old saying in another language, that translates to " The person who speaks is not the only one who is crazy but the ones who listen and believe in them are crazy as well ".
Kelsey keep up the good work. Love your channel.👍
TikTok is filled with young 'adults' with zero experience in the area they are discussing spouting crap like this as if they are an expert. Worse, people actually follow them and believe she has some inside knowledge.
Yep someone on Tik Tok should expose them because there are not a lot of kids watching kelsey and on youtube
kinda like a lot of today's young politicians screaming "facts" re things they know absolutely nothing about and when questioned admit it unabashedly - and equally scary many support and applaud them.
@@SmileFlame3 there are but they dont get enough views nor do the people watching actually believe it
if there's hell, they must be playing tiktok 24/7 there, as deep form of intellectual torture. People watching tiktok must have IQ lower than apes
TikTok is also filled with kids that are functional illiterate... But HEY, google is there to help them...🤣
This has to be one of your best ever. Even my wife listened along with me and laughed. Made me think of the comedian Ron White; 'you can't fix stupid'. As a private pilot myself I would love to get into a conversation with some of the 'aviation experts' :)
Ron White, "Everyone else started freaking out, but I had been drinking since lunchtime, so I was like "Take it down! I don't care! Make sure y you hit something hard, 'cause I don't want to limp away from this!" The guy next to me is *losing his mind*. I guess he must have had something to "live for". He says, "Hey man, if one of the engines goes out, how far will the other one take us?" I look at him. "All the way to the scene of the crash! Which is pretty lucky, because that's where we're headed! I bet we beat the paramedics by a good half hour! We're haulin' ass!"
the second guy was a ramp agent and i actually worked with him for a while. while he is not exactly correct. he isnt super wrong. w&b is still a huge thing is flying around (commercial, multi-ifr/iatra rated myself) its not the be all end all, but if you have more than 5 people moving around it can effect your fuel effiency and could lead to some flight characteristics that werent expected.
Now Ron White is really funny. I wish I was that funny haha
@@74gear just your story about the drunk prostitute had me rolling. Don't underestimate yourself Kelsey!
@@74gear Slightly less funny maybe, but a great deal more sober. I think if I heard Ron's voice coming from the cockpit PA, I'd be diving past the crowds of stewardesses at the emergency exit.
DANG Kelsey! I'm enjoying this giggle as much as the bloopers one. Don't know how I managed to miss it.. (considering I've been binge watching)
Comedy GOLD at influencers expense. Thanks for making sense of the stupid. Putting our minds at ease as well.
Keep doing what you're doing. Just awesome ;)
In the flight:
- Sir we are serving the meal now. Would you take the order?
- Yeah, sure...whats on the menu?
- Roasted tic tocers, the pilot personaly roasted them.
🤣🤣
Pilot = Kelsey 🙂
Another great video Kelsey. It's scary how people with no real knowledge about aviation are still making these tik tok videos and how some people are listening to them instead of you. These "experts" assume pilots are completely dumb and have no will to live like everyone else when it comes to emergencies. Thankfully we have you to call these tik tokers on their bull crap
it's just crazy people who instead of screaming into the void, can now make videos that other crazy people think are true.
The really mad thing is that this is the internet age and you can get advice from real pilots directly on places like RUclips.
what more scary, I'm sure they never been on a plan before.
The Internet is full urine drinkers and demon seed ladies and vaccines turn you magnetic weirdos who have convinced millions to not get vaccinated. And I once thought the Internet would be a force for good, or at worst be a harmless source for cat videos.
Right?! The sad thing is as of him filming this video, she had 12.1k likes. Seriously people????
The weight distribution guy killed me. What about people who go to the bathroom sir??? What about the drink carts??? Sir what about SW Airlines who don't even assign seats on their tickets???? Sir?????? At what point does the airline get your PRECISE WEIGHT sir?!?!?!? LOL
We cabin enigineers can confirm those trolleys are deliberately made as heavy as possible, by making extra room for snacks. This way we ensure that the aircraft will crash if you, as a passenger do not buy snacks, and as many as possible. It's all a conspiracy from Big Snacks Co. - either passengers buy nomnoms, or we make sure they're kaput!
@@RealTanku GIVE ME MORE SNACKS! I NEED TO EAT ALL THE SNACKS OR THE PLANE WILL CRASH!! It is an honour to perform this vital safety duty.
@@RealTanku You guys SELL them? O.O, I always eat them for free even if I ask (or pray) for another one =P
@@RealTanku Be sure to save some for Kelsey.
@@beeble2003 Fly first class. You might be more likely to die, but they give you all the booze you can guzzle and all the snacks you can crunch.
Changed my freaking life. Didn't put my mask back on once through two entire flights.
Your channel is incredible! Thank you so very much for all your great videos and information you give us! I’m 37 years old and after seeing these ppl with their “FACTS” I weep for the future!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Kelsey: I’m not very smart
Also Kelsey: * casually flies a Boeing 747*
It has less to do with being smart and more to do with training.
My dad owned a small DA40 and has told me multiple times it isnt flying thats the hard part, its landing that requires the most skill. Still completely different planes.
It's like driving a car, once you learn it becomes second nature and you know what buttons to press, in what sequence - how the aircraft feels as you handfly, the specific autopilot system, etc. As mentioned above, landing is what really takes skill.
Love your sarcasm!! I’ve been in aviation for 22 years (AP working on my IA) and I get asked some of the dumbest questions. Even after I explain that what they’re saying is wrong they refuse to believe me. It gets to the point where my head hurts and I walk away. Fly safe.
@74 Gear... 9:50, now, even though his strategy here is actually, against what you said, almost 100% effective, I want to let you know how to do this even *better*. Instead of doing the Water thing and all that, you can actually just tell the fire "No".
By doing so the Fire is not allowed to legally touch or harm you in any kind or form, which will make you completely safe, while also not stumbling through the Cabin blindly. The same should work with the smoke and the forces of a 750.000 pound Aircraft smashing into the ground at 500 mph btw. Don't actually tell them tho, Fire, smoke and kinetic impacts hate this trick!
So when I'm near death I just choose to not die? Interesting.
@@memelord705 Exactly! Use the power of positive energy! Not to be confused with the ~20 GJ of kinetic energy of the crash impact, which will definitely kill you.
Lol
@@memelord705 ofc, the secret to avoid death is to simply keep living
I wanna know what these tik-tok influencers are smoking to come up with these theories.....so I can avoid it of course. I like that you remain professional while taking these videos and breaking them down to expose the falsehoods these clowns are spreading.
Safe travels and clear skies!
Notice the crazy eyes, loud voices etc? That’s American News Anchor 101, they are interested in pulling in the maximum amount of views, and fear sells.
they don't influence anything anyway
Airplane Crash Fire Fumes. it's only logical.
The sarcasm is strong today! Good job Kelsey 😉
Yeah right
@@hoelefouk Umm….what???
@@NBT2469 Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
@@hoelefouk How is that even related to the comment or the video?
@@NBT2469 Bats are the only mammal that can actually fly.
One note on center of gravity -- the ratio of just the dry weight of a commercial jet to ALL humans on the plane can be about 1000:1. So it's likely that the change in the center of gravity will be miniscule compared to the changes in the center of lift that occur as a normal part of flying.
Meanwhile, the ratio of the dry weight of a cessna to a single human is around 9:1.
I mean, even at that, planes can be trimmed and re-trimmed mid-flight. Even IF the weight distribution was off enough to cause trouble, the pilots could just trim the plane and fix it.
Always great to see a professional like you absolutely roasting these baseless claims.
I genuinely loved your definition of these content makers as "resilient". :))))))
I love how you can make just about any part of your job about the free food! The ridiculousness of thinking that your weight can effect a 500,000 lb to 900,000 lb aircraft is just crazy. It is like thinking that a mouse running around would effect the weight distribution and handling of your sports car.
Why is a mouse running around in your sports car
@@arandomsupra he's my financial advisor
I randomly got your channel recommended and it's really nice to see you (as a professional pilot) debunking that stuff, which also helps to ease more the fears that people often have about flying
After the Kegworth Air Crash in the UK, there was considerable research to look at why some passengers survived whilst others died. One significant finding was that those in the brace position had a much better chance of surviving then those who were not.
Which flight was that? I don’t know what flight was known as “kegworth air crash”
@@CupwakeRBLX British Midland Flight 92.
@@ChrisCooper312 ahh thank you.
This 💯🔥🔥
You nailed it
A good friend of mine retired a couple of years ago as a first officer on the A-300 with Fedex. He was a Naval Aviator before that and also flew with commuter for a period of time when he got out of the Navy. He was proud to wear his uniform and of his occupation. The final years of his career he told me he would change out of his uniform into regular casual attire prior to entering a terminal or public area. Although, flying freighters, he did not encounter the traveling public very much but, he said he lost all tolerance for the stupid questions and rediculous comments people would approach him with. Your video definitely confirms this. These people are so confidently wrong it's unbelievable. Sad but true, an off duty pilot leaving the Fedex facility in Memphis one year was murdered as he drove through the gate, still in uniform. Another reason he changed clothes. Pretty scary.
Thank you for the facts. Amazing that these youngsters' videos continue to be allowed by the internet when others that really are factual are quickly pulled. Thank you for your brilliant combination of knowledge, professionalism and humor. 👍🏼
Yes, well disinformation is a very big trend now.
China owns TikTok so there is that.
@@larrybe2900 Yup... you nailed that!
The guy who said that changing seats was bad was obviously a victim of my family on all public transport, where my parents ask to move seats because they don’t like it. To that guy, my sincerest condolences
As an aircraft mechanic and aeronautical engineering student these are always infuriatingly interesting but I do have a few common trends. The crash position “fact” gets thrown around a lot and my favorite response has always been the crash experiment “Big Flo”. A 727 purposely crashed to test as much as they can about airline crashes including brace position. I highly recommend looking it up as the whole thing is quite interesting but they actually test the knees up position. The test dummy was the worst one off or close to if memory serves.
Similarly the “back of the plane is safest” is a wonderful misrepresentation of data
The seat thing made me laugh. I've been on so many half empty flights that everyone changed seats and crew were asking if people wanted to move so they had whole rows to themselves. Walking and stretching which is recommended on flights.
I do remember a time when I was asked to change seats on an airplane because it was a large plane and there were few people on board, but they had somehow made it so that almost every passenger was on the left side of the plane. The pilot came on and asked about 10 people to move over to the right side of the plane just to make his flying experience nicer.
happened on my flight as well back in May in a Dash 8. everyone somehow ended up sitting at the very front of the plane. pilot came out and asked if he could have some volunteers to sit farther in the back as the plane was too front heavy.
I've had that happen before too. Everyone was really spaced out so the flight attendants asked us if we could all just sit closer to the middle for takeoff and then once we were in the air they let us go sit where we wanted.
This is what happens when most people now a days are overweight or obese. Check out what the FAAs average passenger weight (for calculation) was 25-years ago compared to the current day average. It’s in the FARs too.
Absolutely hilarious! These people need to go on a professional pilot and/or cabin crew training course! Well done Kelsey, for giving them factual information, they sure needed it! Love your sarcasm!
Don't need to go professional pilot/cabin crew training, all they need is research and use common sense.
hell, a standard high risk emergency training will do for them. (Basically advanced First Aid courses)
I'd rather let them all board a plane, auto pilot it to cruising altitude, and then remove the auto pilot and let them show each other 'how it's done' as they remove themselves from the gene pool.
Well, it's more like their viewers should prefer courses. The whole point of sensationalized fake information is not about giving actual advice, but about milking time (-> advert money) out of receptive viewers, as cheaply as possible. Scamming.
Indeed. All the more reason to remove them. Misinforming intentionally for monetary gain is even worse than out of stupidity because they believe they're helping.
I have a horrible fear of planes, and the fact that he makes me feel even a little better about it is a huge accomplishment lol thank you
Don't worry. You are far more likely to die in a car crash rather than in a plane crash.
So glad that at 6:50, you pointed out the planes were jerking to the side, due to strong wind gusts!
One of my CFIs used to fly Caravelles. He said that on one of his flights, pretty much everyone got up at the same time and got in line for the bathroom, and he started having to put in a lot of nose down trim. He asked the flight attendants what was going on and apparently almost the entire plane was waiting in line outside the bathroom. But even in such an extreme situation, nothing happened.
Great series. Most people get this wrong. Firefighters use compressed air not oxygen. Oxygen near an ignition source is a no no. Keep up the good work.
Well count me as one of the dummies. I didn’t think about firemen with flammable oxygen tanks. Good grief.
yep, the bottle on the fireman's back is just air. trying to breathe straight oxygen really messes you up, even without the fire issue.
well that does make sense... based on my lack of knowledge on firefighters, I feel qualified to make some tiktok content!
@@74gear it is literally the most common mistake people make in talking about firefighting gear. I've even seen professional public information officers make that mistake. but I'm sure there's plenty of subject matter for fire tik toks.
the pursuit of popularity is out of control. it will be interesting if one of these false advise givers gets sued due to someone following their guidance and getting injured.
United 232 definitely caught my ear. I met Capt Haynes at a Marine Corps safety stand down and shook his hand.
His story held me captivated WAY more than the movie and almost as much as meeting SgtMaj Kellog USMC Medal of Honor recipient who jumped on a grenade in Nam to save the rest in his fighting position.
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Omg, I love the sarcasm! You normally have a very Bill Nye the science guy kind of politeness to you when correcting falsehoods, but it appears your threshold for tik tok fuckery has hit zero and you finally unleashed the real Kelsey
“Tik Tok fuckery” is a very good way of describing it. 😂
Only 75 % of the way to the 'angry rant' video yet though😃
ya I do have a sarcastic side once you really know me haha.
@@74gear You’re clearly a very funny guy! Will the real Kelsey please stand up 🤚
Bill Nye the fake science guy. He studied mechanical engineering, not actual science.
Interestingly the second guy had some points that you discounted. There have been several studies of plane crashes that do suggest the back third of the plane is safer, up to 40% safer as he said, in a crash (maybe not plowing into the side of a mountain, but still Popular Mechanics 2007 study of plane crashes, look it up). And it is advisable to breath through a wet cloth to help filter out some smoke, it's not as good as real respirators though. For the safest spot in the plane, you probably want to be in the middle row in the back third right next to an emergency exit, since other studies indicated those were also better places to sit.
Yeah, like someone being engulfed in flames and dying from smoke inhalation... not from being burned.
There's too many factors to really calculate this haha. A really bad plane crash might even complete eviscerate the plane, literally destroying it and making survival just about impossible.
No shit, you sit further away from the point of impact, you might be safer.
Presenting an obvious fact like it's revolutionary and presenting it with a ridiculous example that doesn't even work with that fact is just sad.
No one is surviving a commercial plane crashing into the side of a mountain nose-first at cruising speed.
He was referring to a best case scenario, where the plane is landing but under some sort of stress, like a mechanical problem or a weather issue. Crashing into a mountain is not a good example, as most of those kinds of accidents had few if any survivors. And then depending on how the plane hits the ground and breaks up, it might not make a difference where your sitting. The flight mentioned in the video with the three pilots had fatalities and survivors all throughout the plane, even though it broke into three pieces.
A wet cloth us better than nothing, but speaking as a fire marshal you want to avoid breathing in any smoke, as the biggest danger from smoke is the temperature, you can seriously burn the inside of your esophagous and lungs.
It's best to keep low and get out as soon as possible rather than spend time wetting a cloth.
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Oh Kels, I needed this, again, tonight. Love your channel!
I don't think I've laughed so hard in a long time. So happy that Kelsey matched the sass of bad information
I’m a commercial truck driver and I really enjoy watching your videos. I haul aircraft aluminum out of Georgia straight to Boeing in Auburn Washington. I believe you mentioned having truck driver fans in a previous video. I think it’s because we’re fascinated with what that life is like on the other side of the spectrum LOL. I’m planning on earning my private pilot certificate. I’ve always been enthusiastic about aviation. Keep the videos up man thank you! 🤙🏻
1:37 keeping this for blackmail purposes lmfao. But seriously, thanks for sharing, Kelsey. Not only informative, but also entertaining as always 😂😂 you help me keep some of my inspiration for the art. I started flying in July of 2021 and I just solo'd again today for the fourth or fifth time. I don't always have a lot of time or money to fly, so it's been slow and I'm trying not to let that get to me. My instructor always tells me to take my time; "we're trying to land the plane, not end the flight." It's been more than just aviation advice for me. I use this thinking a lot more, now. My next flight is gonna be me showing up alone and doing a few laps -- no instructor there on the field or anything. I can't explain how excited I am that it's gonna happen, and I'm sure most people here have been through it, so they understand. I just have to say thank you so much for giving us this extra sect of aviation to enjoy. I seriously love every video you put out and I couldn't imagine how cool it'd be to hang out with you. Keep the blue side up, my friend. Much love and thanks 💜
Those are hilariously stupid... thank you so much for going through those ridiculous conspirancy
Your comments on the smoke inhalation and the wet shirt were exactly what I was thinking.
For the record, firefighters don't carry oxygen tanks into fires, we use compressed air tanks
What about the buddy behind the one covering up his head. Gasses don't affect him?
I think the guy poorly worded it. He didn't mean to pull the shirt up Cornholio style. Wet the front of your shirt and use it to cover your mouth. The wet shirt would help to filter out some of the smoke. Same thing they teach in fire drills. That being said in a plane crash most people are going to panic and not remember any of this.
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Our trust in flight is such that many dismiss the importance of emergency directives. Paying attention is our last defense against the game we play with gravity. We win many but lose a few even though we have the game pretty well figured out.
that's not true. There has to be oxygen in those thanks and not just any type of air. you would probably die if it was just compressed hydrogen.
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Air is 23% oxygen, 4% CO2 and the rest mostly nitrogen* and water vapor.
8:30 for Kelsey roasting himself
have to keep it real!
@@74gear legend
@@74gear thanks for keeping it real
Oo self burn. Those are rare
Love your generally ceaseless positivity, but I'm glad you took a firmer tone addressing these videos. Someone could actually get hurt heeding advice like this
People with a face like you are super nice and kind.
To be fair, I've been in flights where the flight attendants told passengers that they weren't allowed to switch seats because of the plane balance. There was probably another reason, but that is what they said.
Well it is an issue on small planes. I’ve had them do that too (like going around and asking individual passenger weights for it), and they had to move some people around.
Idk how they foresaw it would be an issue though, but it does happen on small planes at least.
They probably just didn't want to deal with angry passengers
small plane?
@@OR56 I’m not sure what type of plane it was specifically, I *think* it was a propeller plane but I’m not sure since I was like 15. It was one of the ones meant to hop people short distances between cities though (like that one was between Albany and I want to say Newark? My family usually flew Continental so it would have to be Newark, yeah?)
@@tisvana18 Yes. It would be a small plane then. So it would have a semi sensitive center of gravity. But big planes, it doesn't really matter unless everyone is sitting on one side of the plane or something stupid like that.
Impressive rebuttal, thanks for turning a bunch of crazy scare tactics into good content!
As a former long-time flight attendant with a major airline I truly honestly hope nobody believes these absolute nut cases. They obviously have ZERO training or knowledge of aircraft emergency procedures.
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I think only Karens listen to these fools......
It might be the best debunk video from you yet. I wish you would have added a scene of "assisting" the person off the plane at the emergency exit dousing themselves in water. But, I understand you have a budget.
The whole video is Kelsey thinking "that's not how it works" and dying inside. 😅🤣🙈 I love it! 👍
thanks, Kelsey you made my Sunday!!! I'm literally cracking up watching your videos theses "experts" are really something else... Please keep it going your videos are very interesting and informative... Although I'm not a pilot or a manned aircraft pilot. I really enjoy all your videos
SDRs (special drawing rights) are basically how trade is conducted involving more than 2 types of currency. This is used so that if you crash, regardless of what part of the world you crash in (because yes that matters) you will get the same compensation in value. Great vid!
Yikes not what I wanted to hear just before a flight over the ocean 😅
Thank you for debunking this nonsense! I appreciate you!! 😊