Reshaping A Yard And Comparing The Preparator To A Harley Rake
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2020
- This job I cut a swale around the customers house to divert water away from the house. The yard was sloped right to the back of the house and they were getting water in their crawlspace. I cut about a 250' long swale around the back of the house and a small swale out the front. I cut about 8 loads of material out of the swale, then prepped the area for hydroseed. I also brought in a load of base rock and freshened the driveway up. Was excited to also try a harley rake on this job and do a side by side comparison with it and the preparator. To me they both have their place but if you can only get one attachment I would recommend the harley rake. It seems to do a better job of loosening up the existing soil and grass, it also has a really nice finish when you get the hang of it. The preparator is more of a final pass attachment it has a slightly better finish to it but does not tear up the grass or the hard packed ground as well. It was fun to have both on the job and I do plan on purchasing a harley rake later this year. All in all the project came out nice and the customer was very happy. I plan to get back to do a follow up and hopefully catch it raining to see how it drains. Thanks for watching! #EliteEarthworks #Takeuchi #FFCPreparator #Harleyrake
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Love the soil conditioner and the finished result of rhe land. The distribution of the material from the dump truck is my favorite
Thank you! I love the preparator
you certainly are the king of the skid steer loader operators
Thanks man I appreciate that!
Rewatched again! Love the comparison, one of my favs!
Thank you!
Damn you make dirt look good Brandon!!! I can honestly say you take more pride in your work than about anyone I know, and that is awesome!!!
Thanks buddy! I love what I do and I want to do the best job possible. Appreciate you watching as always
You're right.... those clouds were kick ass !!! Lol. Great work and came out great !!! Gotta make a huge difference I'd imagine. Great video and stay safe. !!!
Yeah I thought they were cool! Thanks man appreciate you watching
i like what you said,i like to do this if it was my own yard.shows you care,as allways nice job.
Thank you! I found that’s what works best for me. If I’m not happy with it or wouldn’t pay for it why should someone else. Thanks again for watching
You finally did it! A good comparison vid between the two! Also glad that you’re going to be adding another weapon to the shop!
Thanks buddy! Yes the harley rake is sweet should definitely be a good addition. Appreciate you watching
Rewatched! Great info on the comparison of the two implements.... Love the content, both make the soil look good!
Thank you! Appreciate watching
People never think about drainage until it starts raining.
That’s exactly right then it’s a big problem. Appreciate you watching
Wow! What a challenging project! (At least it looks daunting to me!) Great job on the tool comparison. I just had someone ask me about a Harley rake on one of my videos and I've never even used one so I'll point them to this video. I've got a good feel for how they work now. Didn't know you could tackle existing grass. Nice job with the spreading too. I've said it before but you do nice work! Now film it after a big rain 😂
Thanks! Yeah they work great taking up existing grass. I felt like I did much better on that tailgating 😁. Yes I’m anxious to see how it looks in a big rain. Appreciate you watching
Looks fantastic, nice work doing the swells so water runs away from buildings and driveway.
Thank you!
As always, another fine grading job.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
As always. Nice job and nice video.
Thanks buddy appreciate it!
Very nice! That preparator really does finish it up real nice! Amazing how yards end up sloped right at the house. Like, did they even look at it when they were done? Anyway, looks awesome now! Thanks for the video!
Thanks buddy! I love the finish it leaves. No kidding lol I mean you think it would be obvious it needs another block. Appreciate you watching Wes
Looks like you’re getting your gravel spreading skills sharper!
Thank you! Feel like I’m getting more comfortable with it
Interesting comparison between the Harley Rake & Preparator - glad you did it. I think that yard is screaming for trees and shrubs! You're right, those clouds were spectacular!
Thank you! Yes definitely could use some trees. Appreciate you watching hope you had a great 4th
@@eliteearthworksllc Upper 90's here near Gettysburg, but all was just fine. Hope you and your lovely wife had a good day, too!
It was great here it was 80 had rain around us but not here just nice and cool
Just had safety meeting. Great job Brandon
Thank you!
Love the commentary. Impressed with you remembering the stats for the land. Thanks for allowing us to hear your thiinking...thinking.... can you talk about "berm".... what is it and use for it?
Thank you! Appreciate you watching
I own a Harley rake for excavating not landscaping and its a tool we cant live without. The other one you had can do a better job of removing rock, but the Harley rake has so many more uses. It does take time to get the hang of it. Nice job hopefully you get the water to flow correctly. Why on earth didn’t they build that house at least a foot higher.
I can see it being very handy I plan to get one later this summer. Yeah I have no idea why the builder wouldn’t raise it one more block. Thanks for watching
looks like you did as much as any one could do to get it draining nice job
Yes this site was a pain just no room for fall. Appreciate you watching
When you build and pay no attention to it... Water always wins!
I hate working in powder. The clouds of dust are bad enough but showing every track is maddening. But then again... so does mud. Hopefully you’ll get some jobs soon that are in between the two.
The swales looked great can’t wait to see what it looks like this fall.
That is very true. Yes it’s either one or the other it seems like. Thanks again for watching
Looks good 👍
Thank you! 👍🏻
Turned out really good it should make a big difference during a big rain. Should get a hold of Stanley here in Delhi when you start pricing your Harley Rake and maybe see if you could demo some stuff for them just a idea. Keep up the great videos
Thank you! Yeah that is a thought. Appreciate you watching
I just bought a jenkins soil conditioner to help out the bobcat landscape rake I got, I didn't have the angle hooked up for the first week, finally got the harness on my machine fixed, and being able to angle it seems to make it work alot better for what Im doing, we got mostly clay and alot of rocks here...definitely breaks up the ground alot better but finishing is nicer with the rockhound I think too
Cool that is good to know. I can see where the angle would come in handy. Appreciate you watching
I’ve rented them Harley rakes and I love’em.
Maybe I’ll get one by the end of the summer.
They sure make bad dirt look good.
Yes they do handy attachment for sure. Thanks for watching
Yessir y’all have a great weekend!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Royce Abbott thank you you too!
You can use that soil conditioner on the driveways also. I do lots of that with mine. Potholes disappear quick. Nice work.
I’ve never tried it but I have seen it done. Does work pretty slick for that. Thank you! Appreciate you watching
Thanks for the great info..
I have an RV pad to put in next week for some friends. I have HR rented, I am thinking 6" of crusher run in a few lifts, run the bucket over it after it is tailgated, then HR and rented compactor.. After that I am wondering if that is best time for the 1&1/2" clean rock and compact that as well.. Anyone have input... or something I have missed? Should I use fabric to separate the dirt from crusher run? I dug out 2 small elm trees about 6 weeks ago and did a backfill and compacted with the SVL 75, its pretty tight now. 50 x 80 approx. size.
thanks in advance...
Very good looking job. I think the job will work as you designed it.
You had a .7% fall on 250' and a 6" gravity sewer line for a city's sewer collection system can be put in as flat as .6% fall (8" pipe can be as flat as .4% due to larger diameter). BUT you have a very wide swale and NO constrictive pipe diameters. Well done in my opinion.
Thank you! I really appreciate that! Good to know. It will drain it just may not be fast. Appreciate you watching as always
Do I say it......Swale job Brandon. Seriously, nice finish....you’re gonna need a bigger trailer for all your attachments 👍🤷♂️
😂 Hi!
Mrs. Elite Earthworks Hiya! 🙋♂️
Lol thanks buddy! Yes a bigger trailer is in the works. Appreciate you watching
Look at an ATI Preseeder, with your operating methods and being a one man show I think you would like the results. The Harley rake is more forgiving of poor operators but I would take a Preseeder anyday over a Harley rake. I have a 3 point tractor mounted Preseeder and love the finish it leaves, would like to have a penny for every pound of rocks I have raked off! I used a tiller or tooth bucket to loosen sod and hard ground first. Works great on driveways also! Like the videos, thanks.
Cool I will have to check one of those out, sounds like a nice attachment. Appreciate you watching and for the info
Harley Rake's work great on gravel! Saves so much time. Just get it close with truck or bucket, then use the Harley Rake.
I would like to try that some time I see a lot of people doing that. Thanks for watching
high level grading... impressive
Thank you! I appreciate that
Nice grading job on the yard! This last week we have been running a new TL12V2 we just bought and it is great for grading shaping and loading!
Thank you! Yeah they are great machines. Thanks for watching
Rewatched! I have been a couple of channels and your name keeps getting mentioned.... You are BIG deal I see! I watched TriStar Diggin and he mentioned how you grade! I know I was following the right guy ,.... GOAT!
Thanks! I don’t think I’m a big deal just been around awhile lol
Nice of you to grace our Sunday with a new one! Hope you didn't give up the "4th" for this video on the 5th. Thanks anyway.
Nice job on this 'headache'. I say that cuz it has many 'close tolerance' variables. Can really see the swale when you got down with the camera. Just seems like the house should have sat up to a foot higher to enable a more proper grade and pitch. Is all the green grass area (in the beginning) his yard? (Looks like a subdivision parcel). To you very "ELITE" people, enjoy the remainder of the 'holiday' weekend!
Thank you! No I actually took the 4th off. It was a dirt field at one time and I think someone tried to start a subdivision but it never took off. Appreciate you watching
It'd be interesting to know how many miles you've put on that skid steer forward reverse forward reverse!! Good job as always bud! 💪🏼
Happy day "BOSS" and yeah, I often wondered that too. All that back & forth gets me dizzy sometime but he does know that machine. See you on your next one and take care! Sonny (CT)
Lol I bet it’s well over 100,000 miles. Thanks man appreciate you watching
I was thinking that exact thing to.
@@eliteearthworksllc how many hours?
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looks great
Thanks man!
One tip for the Harley Rake. Only use it in forward motion. Set your float and adjust depth using curl in or out. After you get used to it you will see why you only want to go forward with a Harley Rake. Just my two cents..👍🏼
Sweet thank you! That makes sense they definitely take some getting use too. Appreciate the comment
Question from a guy with no experience with either attachment but am in the market. How would you get a non compacted seed bed going forward? Wouldn't you always have compaction from the tracks? How would you deal with that for final prep?
I use my tooth bucket for everything including the final grade. I get it where I’m happy with the grade then use the preparator going backwards to finish out the tracks marks. The tracks compact the soil a little bit but not all that much. They are designed to have low ground pressure so it’s not really enough to hurt the seed bed plus when you start watering it it softens up the ground
My question was specific to trying to use the Harley rake for final finishing if you only go forward.
Gotcha you can the tracks won’t really hurt anything
nice job!
Thank you!
Great idea of comparing the two attachments does a lot of good
Also what would you recommend for leveling asphalt millings spread and some what leveled with the skid steer bucket
Thanks
Thank you! Yeah the bucket will work fine
looks damn good
Thank you! Appreciate you watching
Is that prep thing same as rock hound ? I did ball field w 1. It just rakes rocks in bkt basicly. Man it was so dusty w no cab. Nice job sir as usual!!! God bless you an ur family sir
Yes it’s very similar to a rock hound. Oh that would be very dusty! Thank you! Appreciate you watching as always
I thought you were going to prepare to take a rake to a Harley! Your idea was way better than mine
🤣🤣 well I thought about it I wasn’t really sure she wanted a rake 😁
Its tough to work with an area with limited slope. I dont know why contractors always build a house so close to the ground except for its a cost issue. One more line of block around a house wouldn't be catastrophic to their bottom line but they just don't seem to care about the issues a house too low causes after they've sold the house. You made it look good though. Hopefully you've cured the water issues. Good job man.
Yeah it always blows my mind it would be so simple while you are building it and block is cheap. Appreciate you watching as always
13:20 Clouds are a good example of fractal geometry. They look the same up close as they do far away.
That is true! Very cool
So I love the video... question about grading... is the purpose for drainage or for growing new topsoil or both?
Thank you! This was to correct the drainage and get new grass started
I have both the preparator and a Harley rake with power tilt. Run it on a tak 140 .. You have to get the power tilt cable with the Harley. I use it 90% of the time compared to the preparator. The challenge with the tak is that they are so beefy its tough to see the roller to make the small adjustments you need. One of my best attachments along with a grapple bucket.
Cool good to know thank you! I liked the harley rake and plan to buy one later this year. I can see using it more than the preparator too. Appreciate you watching
Wondering why the builder didnt see that coming??? Nice work!!!
He’s one that likes to cut a lot of corners and people are finally figuring that out about him. Thank you!
I think the owner will be happy with it‼️ Looks good but I'm surprised you don't see more underground sprinkler systems there⁉️ Of course it's probably a big cost.
Yes he was very happy with it. There are quite a few sprinkler systems here I just don’t do much with them anymore. They can be expensive and the water bill can be very expensive. My 1/2 acre lawn runs about $350 a month in the summer time with my sprinkler bill. But I also use about 80,000 gallons month 😁. Appreciate you watching
The home owner should have raised the house pad and shed pad up about 2 ft from the beginning. Would have saved them a lot of problems. Good job with what u have to work with. 👍👍
Yes even he agrees he had a pretty sorry builder that cut several corners. Thank you appreciate you watching
That turned out nice, you did a good job. How are you liking the peterbilt dump trucks. It looks like you are getting better at tailgating stone. Have a good weekend.
Thank you! I love the Pete I use it way more than I thought I was going too. Appreciate you watching. Hope you had a good 4th
I see you brought that tailgate game like you been practicing for the Dump Rodeo. 10-4? It all looks good Elite. Chugga chugga chugga chugga, chugga chugga chugga chugga, TOOT TOOT! Cheers .
Lol thanks buddy! I was very happy with that tailgate I may quit while I’m ahead 🤣. Appreciate you watching
Amazing how the guys who graded that originally couldn’t have gotten closer even just by eye for their finish grade. Amazing how many guys out there “grade” and can’t get any closer than they do. Also, I figured as much finish grade stuff and rough grade stuff as you do you’d own a Harley rake Brandon. Nice video, always enjoy the content!
Couldn’t you just have taken the downspouts out 10’ or so away from the house and into a pop up in the yard so it would run into your new swale?
I think the builder tried to put the yard in to save some money but yeah I agree you think they could get it closer. I bought the preparator in 2011 cause that’s what I ran before when I worked a few summer for a utility contractor cleaning up trenches from the plow. I plan on adding a harley rake later this year. Appreciate you watching
When you get ready for that Harley rake check out quick attach I just bought one heavy duty see ya Napa mike
Cool I appreciate that. I will give them a look
It's amazing how many builders don't pay any attention to how the lot lays.
All he had to do is raise the house 12".
Plus the crawl space would not have to be dug so deep.
Yeah it’s crazy they think they are saving so much money. I’ll never understand it. Thanks for watching
Love your videos. Check out the ABI SR3 Grade Rake when you get a chance. I bought one for my CTL and one for my mini CTL last summer while we were restoring 17 miles of gas pipeline right of way. ...I'll never use a harley rake again. Hands down the best attachments I own for dirt and gravel work!
Thank you! I’ve wondered about those I’m curious if they will hold up to our rock. Appreciate you watching
Looks very nice! I was wandering, about how many hours did you have in the dirt work? Did it seem like the harley rake sped up the process at all? Also, what are your thoughts on the green pop up drain tile emitter's? I have never used them and have always just daylighted the drain tile. There just isn't much to work with on this yard as far as drain tile is concerned.
Thank you! I had around 20 hours in the dirt and yes the harley rake speed things up with being able to remove the grass and loosen the soil up. Definitely a great attachment. I’m not a huge fan of the pop ups because it never fails the grass either grows over the pop up. Or it gets knocked off and fills the pipe with dirt and grass and the gutter gets backed up. In some situations you have to use but I try to avoid them. Appreciate you watching
@@eliteearthworksllc , thank you for the information and response.
I must have missed it in the previous posts, but do you ever use a laser or GPS for any of your drainage projects? I have a Dual Dozer laser machine control and it works great for leveling and slopes.
I use a laser sometimes. Most of the time I take some shots when I start then eyeball it until close to the end then I’ll check it with the laser again. Appreciate the comment
Should have use the Harley rake to spread the stone. Dose a great job of that and spreading gravel.. yes the preparator is for the finial pass to groom the grade.
I think I already took the harley rake back before I did the driveway. Appreciate you watching
Never run a Harley rake. Hell my machine has on had the bucket and forks on it. But my poor yard needs redone after I finally pave the drive way and I may use one to make a mess of it haha
Lol well good luck. I can see it bring a handy attachment
I've been doing some research and think I would like a power rake with a hydraulic motor, adjustable guage wheels so that you can cut a swale and hydraulic angle. Do you have any idea which way you may go?
I already own the preparator but I do plan on getting harley rake. The two seem like a great combination but if I had to get one I would go for the harley rake it seems to be the best bang for your buck. It breaks up existing grass and hard packed ground better than the preparator. The preparator is more of a final pass attachment. The harley rake worked great on the front yard swale of this job and I never had to put the bucket on. Hopefully that helps and I appreciate you watching
Let’s dig18 likes his ruckus rake cool video are you going to video after all the grass grow’s for comparison
I’ll try to get back there this was an older job
Brandon, how would that grader blade attachment dirt perfect has do on a job like that removing the grass etc along with high spots, what you are using seems to be doing ok with it though, but I suppose it’s horses for coarses on some jobs, and it’s all looking good now
Yeah that would probably have worked here with all the space but I think the harley rake would be a better overall choice with being able to loosen the soil up instead of just scrapping it off. I could see areas where the grader attachment would be handy. Appreciate you watching
Elite Earthworks LLC yes Brandon after watching it again I agree with you, it loosens that top dirt first the works on the rest, the grader blade would then be more useful , thanks for putting the show together it’s great to watch
You bet thanks again for watching
What bucket do you have on your 150? i have a 2015 TL8 with a virnig 72 smooth cutting edge. I try to back drag with the loader arms all the way down and the bottom of the bucket flat. It always seems like i end up with a big pile behind the bucket or in wetter material it digs the tracks in. I know the cutting edge sticks down a little and maybe thats part of it since that probably keeps the bucket from truly being flat. Maybe i need to adjust the loader arm stops or just practice more. Im a newer operator and trying to learn off guys like you and letsdig18. looking though for a new toothed bucket.
It’s an 84” virnig. They build all the buckets for Tak now. I would say it just takes practice, I don’t set mine all the way down when I backdrag. It’s a few inches above the stops you just have to feel it as you are backing up.
@@eliteearthworksllc ok awesome. I really appreciate the reply. The practice is what I need. Just started side hustling but trying to work towards a full time job.
@@stevenclemente9801 that’s great! Yep seat time is the best way. 👍🏻
When working in bad drainage area instead of making swells (bandaid) look into aquablox the allow the water to drain into the ground and are rated for heavy equipment to drive on! Way better than putting in swells! Great work
Interesting so you basically just have reservoirs in the yard? Do you pipe it out to get the water away. The swale reshaped the yard and they haven’t had any problems since it was done. Everything seems to run off now. Thank you!
@@eliteearthworksllc you don’t have to pipe it you just dig where it’s bad and drop the aquablox in and put a layer of rock then use geotextile and wrap it the put dirt down and lay sod! It’s amazing I’ve been using this route for 10yrs! They are made out of recycled plastic and are rated so a concrete truck can drive on them! You can use pipe if you want to connect them from gutters. There is unlimited uses for them.
@@eliteearthworksllc you don’t have to pipe it you just dig where it’s bad and drop the aquablox in and put a layer of rock then use geotextile and wrap it then put dirt down and lay sod! It’s amazing I’ve been using this route for 10yrs! They are made out of recycled plastic and are rated so a concrete truck can drive on them! You can use pipe if you want to connect them from gutters. There is unlimited uses for them.
Cool I’ve used them before in water features. May have to try it sometime in a yard. Thanks
@@eliteearthworksllc nice that’s where I use them too! Main use is in the wetlands and the intake bays! Before I got hurt I was a certified Aquascape contractor! Great product
How much does it cost to do a job like this? Do you charge by the hour or by the job? Thanks in advance! Great work!
I’d have to go back and look I think I just gave them a price on this one. Thank you!
The Preparator is great but you cannot judge the Harley Rake after not knowing how to operate it. You can get perfectly smooth results with it too.
I agree and that’s what I said later in the video. Their both great attachments and both have their place
Look at that, got that spread down , lol
Thank you! I’m finally getting the timing on the bed. Thanks again for watching
Sad that the builder did not raise the ground a few feet to get this house out of the water, but at least this is a huge blank canvas with lots of space to grade and divert the water flow. And maybe at the end of this, there will be some money left in the homeowner's budget to buy that lonely tree in the front yard a friend to stick in the ground next to it. It's looking a little sad all alone there in this wide open field.
Yeah I agree but it doesn’t surprise me with this builder. Anywhere he can save money he is going too. Lol I believe they are planning to place more trees they just wanted the water resolved first. Thanks for watching
What kinda aggregate is that? Turned out nice.
Thank you! It’s limestone or crusher run some call it. Thanks for watching
Which one do you prefer? They both are great attqchements..
I like my preparator more for finish work. I feel it leaves a better finish. The Harley rake is good for breaking up the material
@@eliteearthworksllc I agree with you... thanks for sharing!
dozer blade attachment with a trimble system first
I’ve got a dozer now and I also ended up buying a Harley rake so now I have all 3 lol
Looks good but that one lone tree in the front yard looks so lonely.
Thanks lol yeah that’s the only they have planted so far. Thanks for watching
Kirk Wilson Agreed. The owner needs to plant a whole bunch of trees.
Does Mrs Elite know that squeaking is the machine life squeaker? When it starts squeaking it’s almost time for a new machine.
Lol I’ll have to tell her that! Thanks 😁
I have beautiful contours in my yard like golf course, i want rough it up cos it's compact clay and lay new sod, but i dont want to loose my contours, want every portion intact,from your experience do you think the harley rake will help me?
It may work just depends on the hills, it might be a pain or not work as great if you can’t fit the rake in there right.
Have you tested the Landscape Rake attachment?
Is that what they call the rock hound? It’s very close to the preparator but the tines bend easy on the one I used
Elite Earthworks LLC yeah I think it’s the Rockhound landscape rake. Similar to the preparator you used but it’s chain driven. Never used any type of soil preparator before so I didn’t know what to expect but it didn’t work well. The super dry rocky ground didn’t like the attachment. Maybe it takes time and practice to operate
Randy Savage yeah I’ve had the preparator for 8 years and this was my first time running a harley rake, it didn’t break up the clay like I was hoping. It’s a good all around tool but the preparator still leaves the best finish in my opinion
I always use my lazer at take several shots. I also my a pole for my receiver to set on my machines. I love my Takeuchi as well.
That’s a good idea. Yes Takeuchi s are great machines!
Harley rake is way better then a preparator. Harley does the same thing but better and you can still pull all debris to 1 side of your grade and pick up with bucket.
They are a nice overall attachment for sure. Appreciate you watching
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Ok Brandon, what did the other comment say? lol
I have no idea 🤣
Me too! Have a good one or two!
I'm looking for a machine that I could use to remove tons of fist-sized rocks from the first 2" or so of my "soil".
Both attachments would work for that. The preparator collects them where the harley rake would push them to one end
@@eliteearthworksllc Thanks!
Weird. I was thinking to myself, elite hasn’t uploaded a video lately... I was unsubscribed?? I’m back lol
Yeah RUclips has been kicking subs like crazy. I gain 10 a day then lose 50 then gain a few more and lose 30. This went on for about two weeks
Tough when there that. Flat
Yes it’s definitely a pain
need a whole lot of real topsoil to make it a yard but that is just me
Yeah that would probably help and if he would water it regularly and fertilizer that would help lol. Thanks for watching
Alex Osborne that’s some smart thinking right there!
Alex Osborne that is a great idea! 😁
Where do you live I need you at my place
Joplin Missouri
@@eliteearthworksllc damn gettysburg Pa. Here
@@richardstormjr.7564 you could hit Diesel Creek up he’s close to you
@@eliteearthworksllc ok never heard of them thanks
@@richardstormjr.7564 you bet he’s got a 240 Takeuchi loader and excavators too
foundations too damn low
Yes it is. It was a shady builder that built it
@@eliteearthworksllc I always like to go with two and a half feet above highest elevation
@@allroy247 I wish more people would
@@eliteearthworksllc you can't teach them all in one day
Lol true
Can you work and talk?
I guess not 🤣
Elite Earthworks LLC I love the discussion and content, it’s the pointing about 2 km into the distance that your trying to show us what your trying to do. ..... I find myself getting out the binoculars to try and see what your doing..... your giving me stress wrinkles ........ BTW i am laughing I just like to leave you in suspense
Lol your not missing anything I guess I could walk a little closer next time 😁