Oddly enough this whole phenomenon reminds me of classical music composers who named their works stuff like “Symphony No. 5 in Eb”… it _is_ accurate to what the work is, but from a marketing standpoint, terrible for giving anyone any emotional connection. The Xenoblade games aren’t nearly as bad, since “Xenoblade” has a strong enough connotation for most people, and there are visual elements of the games that are iconically tied to the title… but all in all, yes totally agree. Even a small subtitle (maybe there’s a better, less confusing word than subtitle, since that gets confused with in-game subtitles???) Could be super cool. Future Connected and Torna The Golden Country are awesome names.
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I'm at least glad Xenoblade 2 doesn't use a Roman numeral at the title, so this means Xenoblade Chronicles 30 won't be called "Xenoblade Chronicles XXX".
A fitting subtitle for X would be "Core of the World". I think this would reflect its more exploration-based focus while also complementing the theme of the story. FF7's narrative is more anti-fascist than anti-capitalist. A Xenoblade subtitle that's over 4 words seems like it'd be pushing it in terms of being mouthful, you just gotta make it catchy!
I wouldn’t say FFVII really tackles fascism. Fascism is largely defined by its national chauvinism and romanticization of a largely fictional golden age of the nation, which are largely absent from VII. Wutai is the only examination of nationalism I remember in VII, but nationalism of the anti-imperialist national liberation variant rather than fascism’s national chauvinism. The roles of the state and corporations is also in reverse in VII: under fascism, corporations serve the state; in VII, the state is controlled by a corporation. So rather than being specifically anti-fascist, I would call VII more broadly anti-authoritarian. The anti-capitalist themes, however, are definitely there. VII takes place in a world where a megacorporation has taken control of government and is draining the planet of its life for profit, all while much of the population lives in poverty caused in large part by the actions of said megacorporation. That’s definitely a critique of capitalism, not dissimilar to the critiques of capitalism seen in cyberpunk, which VII shares a lot with. It’s not a particularly radical critique, with nearly everybody being critical of corporate influence over government, but still a critique. I do think the environmental themes make VII’s critique a little more radical than other similar critiques of capitalism, but VII only really addresses the current problems without pointing to any particular solutions, and I could very well be reading my own anti-capitalist views into the game.
“Where We Used to Be” is literally perfect for Xenoblade 2, a game taking place in the original world that Xenoblade was separated from. “End of the World” really makes no sense at all because the game ends similarly to the first one, with the beginning of a new world.
I really don't think that End of the World is a good subtitle for 2, yeah it has the counterpart-to-1 thing based on your idea of that being Beginning of the World, but seriously think about how confusing that would have been in 2017 for newcomers when we didn't even know about the dlc or anything. Also, thematically, I just don't think it fits all that well. It does make it sound like the same type of story as 1 when they are wildly different in many respects
Ubisoft did a study and found that 90% of players leave subtitles on if they're on by default. So I personally think every game should have those on by default, or ask before the game starts. But this video is actually about subtitles like Future Connected, The Golden Country, and so on. I usually like those too. I don't know if we need them yet, but if we start really getting into this third version of Perfect Works, then yeah, we might need them soon.
If I follow your idea of keep the second part of "Monado : Beginning of the World" and the word "world", I would call the trilogy : Xenoblade : Beginning of the World Xenoblade X : World of Mira yes it's just the planet (aka world) name, but I think it's fit well for Sci-Fi Xenoblade 2 : A World Ending the "a" is important for both the parallel universe and "world" in the sense of era aspects, and it's also reverse the wording. But if we keep the "Monado" part, it will be : Xenoblade : Monado Xenoblade X : Mira's Lifehold again the name of the planet and the main aspect of the story (and also a little hint about the ending) Xenoblade 2 : The Grail of Elysium both the fact Elysium is the main objective and will save the world, and a reference to the Aegis (Holy Grail in japanese)
i kind of disagree with the thought process that the Xenoblade games should have subtitles. and especially disagree with mainline FF games having them. but i would love a reverse-metroid situation where they have numbered titles in the marketing and on the box but in game they have a subtitle
For X the think “Xenoblade X: Lifehold” would work “ For 2 either keep yours or go with “Xenoblade 2: Holy Grail” in reference to the aegis’ Japanese name For 1 keep it as it technically is already has one, but you could also do “Xenoblade: Manado”
I feel like a another good sub title for 2 could be despair and hope, since the game deals with these themes and that is basically the final boss theme.
I had this thought a while ago. My idea for the subtitle for XC2 was "Where it all Began". Based on the track of the same name that plays when the game opens with the title.
I think X’s subtitle would be best decided by what a theoretical X2 would be, but my suggestion is XCX: Journey of the White Whale. Clearly shows X as a different series while encompassing important parts of the plot.
On the subject of calling it _Monado_ instead of _Xenoblade,_ it wouldn't work. The only reference to the Monado in _X_ is Lin's hair decorations, and in _2,_ you don't wield the Monado. Shulk as a Blade doesn't count. Meanwhile, _Xenoblade_ can refer to things found in each game: the Monado in the first game, the organization BLADE in _X_ (not to mention one other thing...), and the Aegis, being a powerful Blade, the...uh...power-up partners, I guess you could say, in _2._
True, like when you look at final fantasy, the main games just have numbers (like ffx, ffvii, ffxiv etc.) which is not very appealing to newcomers to the franchise
I personally don't want Xenoblade to have subtitles because it makes the game more mysterious in it's content. It lets certain elements of the story remain hidden until you get to that point in the story. If XC1 had 'Beginning of the World' as a subtitle I'd be expecting certain elements that happen in the game that I wouldn't have expected without the subtitle. Now, I'm not bashing subtitles in general (I'm eagerly awaiting BotW 2's), but for Xenoblade with it's deep stories, I'd rather go in without any expectations for it's story. Edit: I also personally like the full title of 'Xenoblade Chronicles'. It makes it sound more grand to me even if just 'Xenoblade' is more convenient and easier to say/type.
How about Xenoblade X: so nah, so fern? This would reference multiple things. For one it would be a callback to the old days of the Xeno series with its German subtitles and it would also reference a pretty popolar ost from that game, which also happens to be the main theme of one of the most important characters in the story and the title kinda fits the story too. So nah so fern (=so close, so distant) could be about the human race itself and its existance on mira. Since while the rest of humanity is so close on mira, yet the earth and by that the origin of humanity is so distant.
I'm a big fan of subtitles if not for the sole purpose of getting sick names like "Xenoblade: Beginning of the World" or "MGSV: The Phantom Pain". As long as we're not hitting "Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games" levels of clutter, I'd honestly be on board. I also remember with Mega Man, everyone was holding onto the dream that Mega Man 9 would connect into Mega Man X somehow... Mega Man 10 laughed at this notion.
I could see XCX having "Center Of The World" as a subtitle. The emphasis on humanity being not only the casulty of the Ganglion/Ghost battle but also being the distant relatives of the Samaarians, ultimate failsafe against the Ganglions & implied "Gods" of the Zarubaggons really makes it feel like humans are the actual center of X's world as a whole. Mira being the one thing unifying all these different Xeno races together in one place makes me think it would work too. Then there's the fact that the whole game is about finding the Lifehold Core which is the center of everyone's world in BLADE, metaphorically speaking.
On that wheel of time thing I'm kinda scared to move onto those books. I've been working through Brandon Sandersons catalog recently and he is the man who got to finish the wheel of time series when the author died so I'm probably going to have to read that
You know, I think that the name of the legendary blade could be used as subtitle, and we could take out chronicles at the same time, something like: Xenoblade: Monado Chronicles Xenoblade 2: Aegis Crusades Xenoblade X: Lifehold War
Xenoblade X: Discovery of the World (if we want to stick with the world theme). I think not only does it point to the general gameplay elements, but also points to the core fact of humanity discovering not only new things about the world they have landed on, but all the life upon that world. Also 'Discovery' having a tie with 'space' therefore 'sci-fi' as a qausi link.
Xenoblade 1: beginning of the world. Xenoblade 2: meaning in this world. Xenoblade X: The new frontier. I dont think all the xenoblade games should have world in their subtitles but since 1 and 2 are connected it makes sense for them to share it. 1s also references the fact that it is plot driven as appose to 2 which is character driven.
For X, something along the lines of "Off World" would be just as good as "Beginning of the World" and "End of the World" hinting to the ending of their respective games. For 1, you literally create the new world. For 2, you end the world as you know it (and start a new one). For X, you find out you're off world and looking for a suitable habitat. (AFAIK I didn't play X, didn't have a WiiU)
Going off of the world motif here’s what I got: Xenoblade 1: Beginning of the World (Makes sense. No change is needed.) Xenoblade 2: The World Tree (World Tree is center-point for the game’s story and keeps the theming well) Xenoblade X: New World (I know it’s been mentioned before but it works really well. Not only is the main point of the game navigating a new planet or world but also signifies that it’s somewhat branching from the main series.)
Sort of leaning on FFXIV styled Subtilte names. Why not Xenoblade X: Star-bound? It gets the surface idea of "Oh Hey, this is a Sci-Fi story with space travel as a setup" across well. It also has subtext implications if you break it into two words, Star and Bound. Star can refer to planet, but also the star-like effect that occured when Earth was destroyed, but also implies that Earth/Our Solar system isn't the only "Star" that has experienced tragedy in the story. Bound gives the general idea of travel and harks on "Wayward-bound", implying the travel to Mira and Adventure/Open World elements. It also can act as subtile foreshadowing to the fact that the humans in X are effectively bound to Mira now due to SPOILERS,.
Ok concept, what if the subtitle are the important weapon like the monado or the aegis and make it seem like the subtitle is answering what is exactly the "xenoblade" is.
You said 'Frontier' when coming up with an X title and you could definitely play with that a little, to differentiate it from the 'World' games while keeping the same general theme. Some quick ideas from me; 'Xenoblade X: The New Frontier'; 'Xenoblade X: Lost in the Stars' or 'Xenoblade X: Finding Life'.
To continue this to 3, the subtitle could either be "The Eternal World" or "The World Eternal" which also makes it fit in a cool way as a trilogy. (I've had this idea since the trailers, I got it from the name "Aionios" and the party using the Oroborus symbol, in the context of the story it only got more fitting.) I saw a comment on some video that said that each game is also about either the past present or future, which gave me an interesting idea for an alternative set of subtitles. (spoiler warning) "Xenoblade: Eyes to the Future" because seeing the future is a major thing and because of Egiel being driven by fear of a future event, "Xenoblade 2: Chains of the Past" because a lot of the cast is motivated by trauma from the past, and "Xenoblade 3: Forever in the Present" because of the "endless now" and forces keeping it in place. I don't know what you would do for X in this though, it could be different because it's a spinoff.
If you want to stick with the Worlds Heading, I think a good subtitle for XC2 would be "Worlds Between"/"The Worlds Between". For reasons that are subtle enough to not spoil anything while also keeping you guessing after playing one game, and having a good realization after playing both games, but could as well be given a wider more meta meaning being *Spoilers* two/three connected worlds in a vast multiverse.
That's gonna be a big disagree from me on this one, I also strongly disagree with your statement that Final Fantasy should have subtitles but that is not the point of this comment. For one thing, they are already three games in with using 'Chronicles', and if you were to have subtitles then that would be way too much name clutter if that was also there, and even outside of that I don't think any of the suggestions are that good. Starting with the first game, 'Beginning of the World' gives away way too much in my opinion and removes a large part of the mystique of the world. And going on to 2, 'End of the World' is an even worse title then the one for one is, for one it makes the games seem WAY more connected then they are. Aside from that you also need to remember that the name should NOT be in context of both 2 and Torna, it should ONLY in context of base 2, as that would be everything people would have for context. And lastly, it just doesn't fit the game at all, that title only makes sense in context of 1 which is not what you want when the games aren't direct sequels. And then giving X a subtitles that also brings to mind the other two would be an even bigger mistake in my book sine that game doesn't even have the ending connection that 1 and 2 does, further adding to the confusion of continuity. The reason the Saga subtitles work so well is because 1) they have had them since the first game and the clear theme only works because the games are direct sequels to one another and 2) they don't really give much of anything away, they help set a tone without compromising the mystery. TLDR: As is now it would only add to the confusion of continuity between the games for newcomers and might also give too much away about the story and world. Sorry if this ended up kind of rambly, I wrote this while tired just before going bed. And of course this is all opinion so if you disagree that's fine, just don't be an ass about it.
That’s why he specifically mentioned to take away the chronicles part of the title so it wouldn’t get long and confusing. But you could also go with even shorter titles like “Xenoblade X: Lifehold”, “Xenoblade 2: Holy Grail” , and “Xenoblade: Manado” making it revolve around a certain important object in that games story for note I got holy grail from the Japanese name of the Aegis
@@Kayaba01 I know he said that, I made a mention of that they have already used Chronicles for a bit now so I wouldn't count on it going anywhere, even though I would prefer it to. And I actually do like the shorter names more, but the localization for 2 is already set and done so 'Holy Grail' wouldn't work for it, You could still go with 'the Aegis' I suppose. Edit: Fixed a spelling mistake.
@@Kayaba01 The localization also makes the scene in Torna where they show of "the Aegis" really awkward, since it was in Torna, and not the base game, I'm honestly surprised they didn't change it to a shield or something for the localized release.
I think 1 should be something in the style of "a tale of a blond man", that seems to be shulk at the beginning but you understand it actually talk about zanza too once you advance the story. I think it could be cool and sounds better than "beginning of the world" imo, and also less spoilers
Actually, if I would change anything about the title, it would be to actually give Xenoblade 1 its 1. Then the numbers could refer to the amount of cores from the Trinity Processor in the game, assuming Pyra and Mythra no longer share the same core after their reawakening.
While I couldn't think of a clever subtitle for Xenoblade X whilst considering how the game's Japanese title is pronounced as *"Xenoblade Cross"* - best I got was *"Earth-Torn Refugees"* and *"New World Pioneers"* - I personally think a better subtitle for Xenoblade 2 would be something along the lines of *"In Search for Elysium"* partially to clarify that Xenoblades 1 & 2 are indeed seperate universes (something that *"Beginning of the World"* and *"End of the World"* may muddy a little) but also because of how XC2's narrative kinda challenges what Alrest's version of Elysium could possibly be on both a geographic and spiritual level
Xenoblade: Beginning of the world Xenoblade: Fog of the empire Xenoblade X: Builders of a legacy Xenoblade 2: Till death do us part Xenoblade 2 Torna: The Promised land Xenoblade 3: The clocks of life
2 should definitely be "Torna the Fallen/Lost Empire/Country/World" to tie it to "Torna the Golden Country". Very obviously tying it to Xenoblade 1 would be a huge spoiler and a mistake. X should be "Survivors Of the World's End", "Lost Children" or "Legacy of Man/The Gods"
I think we could still use one of the song names as a subtitle for 2, maybe "Xenoblade: Elysium of the blue sky" would be a fitting name because the whole game revolves around getting Pyra to Elysium
My guess is they currently want to give subtitles to continuations in the same universe, but leave the first game in a new continuity subtitleless. Kind of how many movie series are doing it
X1: breaking a cycle XX/X2: "break of the cycle" Shulk don't become a god?/ yaldabaoth wins? X2/XX: Shulk break the cycle and becomes the god > creates a second cycle . AHHHHHHDONOOOO ;;
Xenoblade X: Stranded Frontier Xenoblade X: Uncharted Territory Xenoblade X: Mysteries Of The Planet Mira (Xenoblade X ~Mystery Planet~) all corny but here you go
The Final Fantasy thing gets even worse because many of the games have sequels, so they just throw in a whole different naming convention. You've got Final Fantasy X and its sequel Final Fantasy X-2, and you've got kinda the same thing with Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII-2, but then the third one isn't called Final Fantasy XIII-3, I think it's called Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII? The sequel to IV is called IV: The After Years, and later IV: Interlude was released, I think as part of a bundle, to connect the two. The various parts of Compilation of Final Fantasy VII (which is a terrible name for that series btw lmao) have very nice subtitles, but they tell you virtually nothing about when they take place relative to each other, save for Before Crisis taking place before Crisis Core (I think?). Plus you've got some Final Fantasy spinoff games being titled something other than Final Fantasy in some regions, and then games not originally intended as Final Fantasy games getting titled as such in some regions, and the name of one game in one region being the same as a different game in another region.
Here are my ideas for subtitles. Just to be clear, I also think it looks silly to have this many Tildes across the titles, but I really liked having the Xeno Blade in the subtitle and wanted to separate it from the sub-subtitle. Xenoblade Chronicles: Monado ~ Beginning of the World Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Aegis ~ End of the World Xenoblade 3: (Important Object) ~ A New World Xenoblade Chronicles X: Lifehold ~ Another World Xenoblade Chronicles: Bionis Shoulder ~ Future Connected Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna ~ The Golden Country Naming the games like this can give you a better idea of what each game is about, but it also means you can refer to the games with as little as the important object from that game. FC could alternatively be titled "Fog King ~ Future Connected" and Torna could be changed to "Malos ~ History Connected" to keep in line with this naming scheme as well as let them better parallel each other.
if the next game is called xenoblade chronicles 3 what colour will the 3 be this time i wonder, seen a lot of mock ups which use purple, but i think green
I think the ambiguity of the titles works for me. Xenoblade Chronicles X is a bit out there though, I admit I was a little confused when that was announced.
Why not use the word "planet" for X? It has all the advantages of "world" but also give a space opera vibe I know it's kinda memey but "stuck on a different planet" or "something about this planet" could potentially work (with some refinement of course) EDIT : Also, I don't know if it was a real question but the Xenoblade numeration does make a lot of sens when you think about developers intent and story structure
subtitles are just neat for adding more punch to your series like NieR Gestalt sounds awesome but the others games its just numbers :( Drakengard 3 is prime for a wonderful subtitle for like this one Broken Choir is perfect
Oddly enough this whole phenomenon reminds me of classical music composers who named their works stuff like “Symphony No. 5 in Eb”… it _is_ accurate to what the work is, but from a marketing standpoint, terrible for giving anyone any emotional connection. The Xenoblade games aren’t nearly as bad, since “Xenoblade” has a strong enough connotation for most people, and there are visual elements of the games that are iconically tied to the title… but all in all, yes totally agree. Even a small subtitle (maybe there’s a better, less confusing word than subtitle, since that gets confused with in-game subtitles???) Could be super cool. Future Connected and Torna The Golden Country are awesome names.
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Xenoblade 1: You're done!
Xenoblade 2: Think you can take me?
Xenoblade X: Don't forget me.
This.
Xenoblade 3: Behave!
I'm at least glad Xenoblade 2 doesn't use a Roman numeral at the title, so this means Xenoblade Chronicles 30 won't be called "Xenoblade Chronicles XXX".
"what is your favorite game"
-I like Xenoblade X"
"Which one?"
-???
It's possible we get a Xenoblade Chronicles X3, which isn't exactly that, but it's close enough
Hahaha yeah
Xenoblade Xrd
(Glares at the Huckebein 30 in SRW 30)
I still wanna believe in X being 10 for no other reason than its nonsense and would be really fucking funny.
there are plenty of games that would be in between, it might not be too implausible for them to recreate Earth in that time.
Hopefully we get to its sequel befor 30 years
Maybe just "Xenoblade Chronicles X: Lifehold"
Simple and accurately depicting the story and objective of X
Xenoblade just has the best music I have ever heard in my life.
Xenoblade 2 should be Duality of the World. Leave End of the World for Xenoblade 3.
Xenoblade X: Bigger Guns for the Bigger World
What I came up with:
XC1: Beginning of the World
XC2: Cycle of the World
XCX: Perserverance of the World
Xenoblade 1: Monado, beginning of the world
Xenoblade X: Stuck on a different planet
Xenoblade 2: The Code of the Salvager
Indeed
Or
Xenobalde 2: A salvager's promise
A fitting subtitle for X would be "Core of the World". I think this would reflect its more exploration-based focus while also complementing the theme of the story. FF7's narrative is more anti-fascist than anti-capitalist. A Xenoblade subtitle that's over 4 words seems like it'd be pushing it in terms of being mouthful, you just gotta make it catchy!
I wouldn’t say FFVII really tackles fascism. Fascism is largely defined by its national chauvinism and romanticization of a largely fictional golden age of the nation, which are largely absent from VII. Wutai is the only examination of nationalism I remember in VII, but nationalism of the anti-imperialist national liberation variant rather than fascism’s national chauvinism. The roles of the state and corporations is also in reverse in VII: under fascism, corporations serve the state; in VII, the state is controlled by a corporation. So rather than being specifically anti-fascist, I would call VII more broadly anti-authoritarian.
The anti-capitalist themes, however, are definitely there. VII takes place in a world where a megacorporation has taken control of government and is draining the planet of its life for profit, all while much of the population lives in poverty caused in large part by the actions of said megacorporation. That’s definitely a critique of capitalism, not dissimilar to the critiques of capitalism seen in cyberpunk, which VII shares a lot with. It’s not a particularly radical critique, with nearly everybody being critical of corporate influence over government, but still a critique. I do think the environmental themes make VII’s critique a little more radical than other similar critiques of capitalism, but VII only really addresses the current problems without pointing to any particular solutions, and I could very well be reading my own anti-capitalist views into the game.
“Where We Used to Be” is literally perfect for Xenoblade 2, a game taking place in the original world that Xenoblade was separated from. “End of the World” really makes no sense at all because the game ends similarly to the first one, with the beginning of a new world.
Xenoblade Chronicles X: World of hope
I really don't think that End of the World is a good subtitle for 2, yeah it has the counterpart-to-1 thing based on your idea of that being Beginning of the World, but seriously think about how confusing that would have been in 2017 for newcomers when we didn't even know about the dlc or anything. Also, thematically, I just don't think it fits all that well. It does make it sound like the same type of story as 1 when they are wildly different in many respects
Ubisoft did a study and found that 90% of players leave subtitles on if they're on by default. So I personally think every game should have those on by default, or ask before the game starts.
But this video is actually about subtitles like Future Connected, The Golden Country, and so on. I usually like those too. I don't know if we need them yet, but if we start really getting into this third version of Perfect Works, then yeah, we might need them soon.
how did you resist "a whole different planet" for xenoblade X ?
If I follow your idea of keep the second part of "Monado : Beginning of the World" and the word "world", I would call the trilogy :
Xenoblade : Beginning of the World
Xenoblade X : World of Mira yes it's just the planet (aka world) name, but I think it's fit well for Sci-Fi
Xenoblade 2 : A World Ending the "a" is important for both the parallel universe and "world" in the sense of era aspects, and it's also reverse the wording.
But if we keep the "Monado" part, it will be :
Xenoblade : Monado
Xenoblade X : Mira's Lifehold again the name of the planet and the main aspect of the story (and also a little hint about the ending)
Xenoblade 2 : The Grail of Elysium both the fact Elysium is the main objective and will save the world, and a reference to the Aegis (Holy Grail in japanese)
Xenoblade X: I need a bigger gun
Xenoblade 2: Titan's Foot
That accually sounds good and I love it...
X: There's Something About This Planet
The Wheel of Time series usually takes a year for most people from what I've seen (it took me a year and 3 months).
i kind of disagree with the thought process that the Xenoblade games should have subtitles. and especially disagree with mainline FF games having them. but i would love a reverse-metroid situation where they have numbered titles in the marketing and on the box but in game they have a subtitle
For X the think “Xenoblade X: Lifehold” would work “
For 2 either keep yours or go with “Xenoblade 2: Holy Grail” in reference to the aegis’ Japanese name
For 1 keep it as it technically is already has one, but you could also do “Xenoblade: Manado”
I feel like a another good sub title for 2 could be despair and hope, since the game deals with these themes and that is basically the final boss theme.
please read the wheel of time, best fantasy series imo
I had this thought a while ago. My idea for the subtitle for XC2 was "Where it all Began". Based on the track of the same name that plays when the game opens with the title.
I think X’s subtitle would be best decided by what a theoretical X2 would be, but my suggestion is XCX: Journey of the White Whale. Clearly shows X as a different series while encompassing important parts of the plot.
On the subject of calling it _Monado_ instead of _Xenoblade,_ it wouldn't work. The only reference to the Monado in _X_ is Lin's hair decorations, and in _2,_ you don't wield the Monado. Shulk as a Blade doesn't count. Meanwhile, _Xenoblade_ can refer to things found in each game: the Monado in the first game, the organization BLADE in _X_ (not to mention one other thing...), and the Aegis, being a powerful Blade, the...uh...power-up partners, I guess you could say, in _2._
I mean technically you do wield a Monado, since the Aegis weapons could technically all be stated to be Monados but yeah you’re right
In two I assumed Xenoblade refers to Pyra/mythra and Malos
@@Dracomasterthefirst Pretty much. They're unusually powerful Blades, which makes them "strange (xeno) Blades."
@@TheCoolerDrilis xeno tends to mean foreign more than strange, but you’re still right since both the Monado and Aegis’ are foreign
Marketing wise I think it would be more appealing to new players if they got rid of number and just have subtitles for the game
True, like when you look at final fantasy, the main games just have numbers (like ffx, ffvii, ffxiv etc.) which is not very appealing to newcomers to the franchise
@@yoadhv I mean considering the sales of final fantasy games is that really stopping people
I actually quite disagree, I think it's more appealing and clear from a marketing perspective to keep the titles simple.
I personally don't want Xenoblade to have subtitles because it makes the game more mysterious in it's content. It lets certain elements of the story remain hidden until you get to that point in the story. If XC1 had 'Beginning of the World' as a subtitle I'd be expecting certain elements that happen in the game that I wouldn't have expected without the subtitle. Now, I'm not bashing subtitles in general (I'm eagerly awaiting BotW 2's), but for Xenoblade with it's deep stories, I'd rather go in without any expectations for it's story.
Edit: I also personally like the full title of 'Xenoblade Chronicles'. It makes it sound more grand to me even if just 'Xenoblade' is more convenient and easier to say/type.
Alright guys hear me out,
Xenoblade 2: Big-Tiddy Boogaloo
How about Xenoblade X: so nah, so fern? This would reference multiple things. For one it would be a callback to the old days of the Xeno series with its German subtitles and it would also reference a pretty popolar ost from that game, which also happens to be the main theme of one of the most important characters in the story and the title kinda fits the story too. So nah so fern (=so close, so distant) could be about the human race itself and its existance on mira. Since while the rest of humanity is so close on mira, yet the earth and by that the origin of humanity is so distant.
I'm a big fan of subtitles if not for the sole purpose of getting sick names like "Xenoblade: Beginning of the World" or "MGSV: The Phantom Pain". As long as we're not hitting "Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games" levels of clutter, I'd honestly be on board.
I also remember with Mega Man, everyone was holding onto the dream that Mega Man 9 would connect into Mega Man X somehow... Mega Man 10 laughed at this notion.
Now I want a video of your suggestions for subtitles for Final Fantasy games
I could see XCX having "Center Of The World" as a subtitle. The emphasis on humanity being not only the casulty of the Ganglion/Ghost battle but also being the distant relatives of the Samaarians, ultimate failsafe against the Ganglions & implied "Gods" of the Zarubaggons really makes it feel like humans are the actual center of X's world as a whole.
Mira being the one thing unifying all these different Xeno races together in one place makes me think it would work too.
Then there's the fact that the whole game is about finding the Lifehold Core which is the center of everyone's world in BLADE, metaphorically speaking.
Xenoblade Chronicles: A tale of Titans
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: A group of titans
Xenoblade Chronicles X: Big ship no Titans
It should be Xenoblade X: Crash Of the Space Titanic
Jesus Christ that thumbnail got me I saw it on my Apple Watch and thought that was the new Xenoblade game.
On that wheel of time thing I'm kinda scared to move onto those books. I've been working through Brandon Sandersons catalog recently and he is the man who got to finish the wheel of time series when the author died so I'm probably going to have to read that
You know, I think that the name of the legendary blade could be used as subtitle, and we could take out chronicles at the same time, something like:
Xenoblade: Monado Chronicles
Xenoblade 2: Aegis Crusades
Xenoblade X: Lifehold War
That's actually pretty clever, I like that.
Xenoblade X: Discovery of the World (if we want to stick with the world theme). I think not only does it point to the general gameplay elements, but also points to the core fact of humanity discovering not only new things about the world they have landed on, but all the life upon that world. Also 'Discovery' having a tie with 'space' therefore 'sci-fi' as a qausi link.
Hard agree with omitting ‘chronicles’ from mention of the game titles.
Xenoblade 1: beginning of the world.
Xenoblade 2: meaning in this world.
Xenoblade X: The new frontier.
I dont think all the xenoblade games should have world in their subtitles but since 1 and 2 are connected it makes sense for them to share it. 1s also references the fact that it is plot driven as appose to 2 which is character driven.
For X, something along the lines of "Off World" would be just as good as "Beginning of the World" and "End of the World" hinting to the ending of their respective games.
For 1, you literally create the new world.
For 2, you end the world as you know it (and start a new one).
For X, you find out you're off world and looking for a suitable habitat. (AFAIK I didn't play X, didn't have a WiiU)
Going off of the world motif here’s what I got:
Xenoblade 1: Beginning of the World
(Makes sense. No change is needed.)
Xenoblade 2: The World Tree
(World Tree is center-point for the game’s story and keeps the theming well)
Xenoblade X: New World
(I know it’s been mentioned before but it works really well. Not only is the main point of the game navigating a new planet or world but also signifies that it’s somewhat branching from the main series.)
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Sort of leaning on FFXIV styled Subtilte names.
Why not Xenoblade X: Star-bound?
It gets the surface idea of "Oh Hey, this is a Sci-Fi story with space travel as a setup" across well.
It also has subtext implications if you break it into two words, Star and Bound.
Star can refer to planet, but also the star-like effect that occured when Earth was destroyed, but also implies that Earth/Our Solar system isn't the only "Star" that has experienced tragedy in the story.
Bound gives the general idea of travel and harks on "Wayward-bound", implying the travel to Mira and Adventure/Open World elements. It also can act as subtile foreshadowing to the fact that the humans in X are effectively bound to Mira now due to SPOILERS,.
Ok concept, what if the subtitle are the important weapon like the monado or the aegis and make it seem like the subtitle is answering what is exactly the "xenoblade" is.
You said 'Frontier' when coming up with an X title and you could definitely play with that a little, to differentiate it from the 'World' games while keeping the same general theme. Some quick ideas from me; 'Xenoblade X: The New Frontier'; 'Xenoblade X: Lost in the Stars' or 'Xenoblade X: Finding Life'.
Finding Life sounds perfect imo
Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Zeke falls from a cliff into the could sea (again)
Maybe the best Xenoblade subtitles are the friends we made along the way.
To continue this to 3, the subtitle could either be "The Eternal World" or "The World Eternal" which also makes it fit in a cool way as a trilogy. (I've had this idea since the trailers, I got it from the name "Aionios" and the party using the Oroborus symbol, in the context of the story it only got more fitting.)
I saw a comment on some video that said that each game is also about either the past present or future, which gave me an interesting idea for an alternative set of subtitles. (spoiler warning)
"Xenoblade: Eyes to the Future" because seeing the future is a major thing and because of Egiel being driven by fear of a future event, "Xenoblade 2: Chains of the Past" because a lot of the cast is motivated by trauma from the past, and "Xenoblade 3: Forever in the Present" because of the "endless now" and forces keeping it in place. I don't know what you would do for X in this though, it could be different because it's a spinoff.
Maybe X could use "planet" as its running theme? Xenoblade X: Planet of... Mystery?
Xenoblade X: The Impossible Planet?
Xenoblade X: A whole different planet
@@gormottigrebel9978 Xenoblade X: Something About This Planet
If you want to stick with the Worlds Heading, I think a good subtitle for XC2 would be "Worlds Between"/"The Worlds Between". For reasons that are subtle enough to not spoil anything while also keeping you guessing after playing one game, and having a good realization after playing both games, but could as well be given a wider more meta meaning being *Spoilers* two/three connected worlds in a vast multiverse.
I think we can all agree the 'Chronicles' part should've been dropped a long time ago
That's gonna be a big disagree from me on this one, I also strongly disagree with your statement that Final Fantasy should have subtitles but that is not the point of this comment.
For one thing, they are already three games in with using 'Chronicles', and if you were to have subtitles then that would be way too much name clutter if that was also there, and even outside of that I don't think any of the suggestions are that good. Starting with the first game, 'Beginning of the World' gives away way too much in my opinion and removes a large part of the mystique of the world.
And going on to 2, 'End of the World' is an even worse title then the one for one is, for one it makes the games seem WAY more connected then they are. Aside from that you also need to remember that the name should NOT be in context of both 2 and Torna, it should ONLY in context of base 2, as that would be everything people would have for context. And lastly, it just doesn't fit the game at all, that title only makes sense in context of 1 which is not what you want when the games aren't direct sequels.
And then giving X a subtitles that also brings to mind the other two would be an even bigger mistake in my book sine that game doesn't even have the ending connection that 1 and 2 does, further adding to the confusion of continuity.
The reason the Saga subtitles work so well is because 1) they have had them since the first game and the clear theme only works because the games are direct sequels to one another and 2) they don't really give much of anything away, they help set a tone without compromising the mystery.
TLDR: As is now it would only add to the confusion of continuity between the games for newcomers and might also give too much away about the story and world.
Sorry if this ended up kind of rambly, I wrote this while tired just before going bed. And of course this is all opinion so if you disagree that's fine, just don't be an ass about it.
That’s why he specifically mentioned to take away the chronicles part of the title so it wouldn’t get long and confusing. But you could also go with even shorter titles like “Xenoblade X: Lifehold”, “Xenoblade 2: Holy Grail” , and “Xenoblade: Manado” making it revolve around a certain important object in that games story for note I got holy grail from the Japanese name of the Aegis
@@Kayaba01 I know he said that, I made a mention of that they have already used Chronicles for a bit now so I wouldn't count on it going anywhere, even though I would prefer it to. And I actually do like the shorter names more, but the localization for 2 is already set and done so 'Holy Grail' wouldn't work for it, You could still go with 'the Aegis' I suppose.
Edit: Fixed a spelling mistake.
@@33link333 oh yea I agree that aegis would work better than holy grail in terms of localization, I just liked the sound of it better
@@Kayaba01 The localization also makes the scene in Torna where they show of "the Aegis" really awkward, since it was in Torna, and not the base game, I'm honestly surprised they didn't change it to a shield or something for the localized release.
We like the idea of 2's subtitle being "end of a cycle" rather than "end of the world" but that's not based on much - we just like it.
Xenoblade 2: “The search for Elysium.”
I never thought I needed a Xenoblade 3-9 until now, but if that's what it takes to get X ported to something modern, so be it.
Xenoblade: Beginning of the world
Xenoblade 2: The other world
Xenoblade X: A whole different planet
holy shit love the wheel of time call out
Hey Luxin, any chance you will finish the xenogears recap videos. I really enjoyed the 1st 5 vid would love to see it completed. Thanks
I suppose you could make Xenoblade 2 "End of _a_ World". Ties it to the first game without directly implying that it's the same world.
I always turn on subtitle of any game if it's available.
Xenoblade 2: Phase Transition
I think 1 should be something in the style of "a tale of a blond man", that seems to be shulk at the beginning but you understand it actually talk about zanza too once you advance the story.
I think it could be cool and sounds better than "beginning of the world" imo, and also less spoilers
Actually, if I would change anything about the title, it would be to actually give Xenoblade 1 its 1. Then the numbers could refer to the amount of cores from the Trinity Processor in the game, assuming Pyra and Mythra no longer share the same core after their reawakening.
While I couldn't think of a clever subtitle for Xenoblade X whilst considering how the game's Japanese title is pronounced as *"Xenoblade Cross"* - best I got was *"Earth-Torn Refugees"* and *"New World Pioneers"* - I personally think a better subtitle for Xenoblade 2 would be something along the lines of *"In Search for Elysium"* partially to clarify that Xenoblades 1 & 2 are indeed seperate universes (something that *"Beginning of the World"* and *"End of the World"* may muddy a little) but also because of how XC2's narrative kinda challenges what Alrest's version of Elysium could possibly be on both a geographic and spiritual level
Xenoblade: Beginning of the world
Xenoblade: Fog of the empire
Xenoblade X: Builders of a legacy
Xenoblade 2: Till death do us part
Xenoblade 2 Torna: The Promised land
Xenoblade 3: The clocks of life
2 should definitely be "Torna the Fallen/Lost Empire/Country/World" to tie it to "Torna the Golden Country".
Very obviously tying it to Xenoblade 1 would be a huge spoiler and a mistake.
X should be "Survivors Of the World's End", "Lost Children" or "Legacy of Man/The Gods"
I think we could still use one of the song names as a subtitle for 2, maybe "Xenoblade: Elysium of the blue sky" would be a fitting name because the whole game revolves around getting Pyra to Elysium
xenoblade x: STUCK ON A DIFFICULT PLANET
My guess is they currently want to give subtitles to continuations in the same universe, but leave the first game in a new continuity subtitleless. Kind of how many movie series are doing it
I kinda like going into the games blind. I had no idea what a "Xenoblade" was.
Xenoblade X - it's something about this damn planet
No but seriously , planet would be a good word to use somewhere I just don't know his
Before i start i really hope my idea (inspiration of the world xc2) on Twitter got noticed even slightly in this
Xenoblade 3: got a rare Dooda right here
I agree, just look at Torna the Golden Country
yea this is something i’ve been wanting forever
X1: breaking a cycle
XX/X2: "break of the cycle" Shulk don't become a god?/ yaldabaoth wins?
X2/XX: Shulk break the cycle and becomes the god > creates a second
cycle .
AHHHHHHDONOOOO ;;
Xenoblade X: Stranded Frontier
Xenoblade X: Uncharted Territory
Xenoblade X: Mysteries Of The Planet Mira
(Xenoblade X ~Mystery Planet~)
all corny but here you go
The Final Fantasy thing gets even worse because many of the games have sequels, so they just throw in a whole different naming convention. You've got Final Fantasy X and its sequel Final Fantasy X-2, and you've got kinda the same thing with Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII-2, but then the third one isn't called Final Fantasy XIII-3, I think it's called Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII? The sequel to IV is called IV: The After Years, and later IV: Interlude was released, I think as part of a bundle, to connect the two. The various parts of Compilation of Final Fantasy VII (which is a terrible name for that series btw lmao) have very nice subtitles, but they tell you virtually nothing about when they take place relative to each other, save for Before Crisis taking place before Crisis Core (I think?). Plus you've got some Final Fantasy spinoff games being titled something other than Final Fantasy in some regions, and then games not originally intended as Final Fantasy games getting titled as such in some regions, and the name of one game in one region being the same as a different game in another region.
Xenoblade 1: beginning of the world
Xenoblade x: Escape to Mira
Xenoblade 2: power of the aegis
Done.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: The New Aegis War
The fact that Final Fantasy used roman numbers means one day we'll have Final Fantasy XXX.
Maybe they could've gone with Carl Jung's book titles this time around.
Here are my ideas for subtitles. Just to be clear, I also think it looks silly to have this many Tildes across the titles, but I really liked having the Xeno Blade in the subtitle and wanted to separate it from the sub-subtitle.
Xenoblade Chronicles: Monado ~ Beginning of the World
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Aegis ~ End of the World
Xenoblade 3: (Important Object) ~ A New World
Xenoblade Chronicles X: Lifehold ~ Another World
Xenoblade Chronicles: Bionis Shoulder ~ Future Connected
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna ~ The Golden Country
Naming the games like this can give you a better idea of what each game is about, but it also means you can refer to the games with as little as the important object from that game. FC could alternatively be titled "Fog King ~ Future Connected" and Torna could be changed to "Malos ~ History Connected" to keep in line with this naming scheme as well as let them better parallel each other.
if the next game is called xenoblade chronicles 3 what colour will the 3 be this time i wonder, seen a lot of mock ups which use purple, but i think green
I’m not sure about green considering how important it is to 2’s story especially later on or even purple for that matter considering malos is purple
I think the ambiguity of the titles works for me. Xenoblade Chronicles X is a bit out there though, I admit I was a little confused when that was announced.
Why not use the word "planet" for X? It has all the advantages of "world" but also give a space opera vibe
I know it's kinda memey but "stuck on a different planet" or "something about this planet" could potentially work (with some refinement of course)
EDIT : Also, I don't know if it was a real question but the Xenoblade numeration does make a lot of sens when you think about developers intent and story structure
subtitles are just neat for adding more punch to your series like NieR Gestalt sounds awesome but the others games its just numbers :( Drakengard 3 is prime for a wonderful subtitle for like this one Broken Choir is perfect
The next title just might have one…
Who knows?..
Xenoblade X: Ghosts in the Skells
Xenoblade X: Metal Life Stars
Xenoblade 3: Tora the Golden Country
For X I'd go for "A new start" as its detatched from the other two and fits thematically. Basic I know but ehh just thought I'd throw it out there.
How about:
Xenoblade: Monado
Xenoblade: Aegis
Xenblade: Mira
Xenoblade: Beyond the Known World
Why does your voice sync with Vandham's mouth so well?
Scrapping the bottom of the barrel eh?