Ginny nails it once again, breaking down the materials available in a delightfully engaging fashion. My ADHD brain appreciates this *and* Ginny remains an excellent salesperson
Now we need Paizo to step up and pay for a video on Pathfinder for the trifecta where there's 3 different versions of Wisteria arguing over who gets to banish the demon Augury conjured.
Re: backgrounds vs. heritage, I really like the idea. Take Aragorn from LotR as an example. He has a noble heritage, being born into the line of kings and raised in Rivendell, but has an outlander background, travelling with the Dunedain and choosing to make himself a pariah by becoming Strider. Neat nuance to improve character backgrounds.
Great example. It also made me think of Baranor from Middle Earth: Shadow of War. He's ethnically a Haradrim, but was raised in Minas Ithil and culturally Gondorian.
I do like this. Rather than automatically giving everybody night vision, you can be a human with certain traits from other races. Or you can be mostly elf with Khajiit traits.
Holy Heck! Someone is actually adding a dedicated "Culture" step to D&Doid character creation! I've only been boring my group with the idea since early 4th edition.
I love this idea! It would work great for a few characters in our group, like the Tiefling who was raised by an Elf priest and ran away from home to join the circus and became a Bard or the Dhampir (homebrewed because 5e's was just vampire tbh) who was raised by Dwarven nobles and became a Paladin.
On the one hand, it's great that people who enjoy 5e, but are fed up with WotC, are going to have so many alternatives to choose from. On the other hand, I'm worried that the market is going to fragment so much that none of them will be able to pull in a large enough audience to stay in business. And pity the poor game store owner who has to figure out which of these "5e-alikes" to give valuable shelf space to...
^^ competition typically leads to better prices, and better quality products. I think this is great for the community. Sure it’s gonna be hard to fight for shelf space, but that’s what makes products better
Also remember that most game systems remain profitable enough to stay in print despite having a tiny fraction of the customers that 5e has had. Even if the community splintered into 10, each preferring their own system and absolutely no overlap, they'd still be more profitable than the average TTRPG.
Admittedly there aren't a lot of game shops in my country so this is based on two. But what I've seen so far is: 1) A run on Paizo books, with the Pathfinder Player's Handbook being out of stock everywhere and more space given to remaining Paizo stock/advertising 2) D&D books being given less space then they were before 3) More books that aren't related to D&D and don't have a medieval fantasy style setting on the shelves. I haven't noticed anything that's been kickstarted or that I recognise as a '5e-alike' on sale yet. I *have* seen more copies of things like Traveller, Rune Quest, Call of Cuthulu, Modipus' 2d20 system games etc. I've also seen a few I'd never heard of but didn't really seem 5e based, most recent was one set in 1800s Scandanavia with an occult mystery feel. From what I've seen there hasn't been a noticeable change in stocking for World of Darkness or Chronicles of Darkness. Still can't find physical copies of GURPs books for love or money but I think that's a long standing thing.
@@flyingblind5677 I’m just hoping that Wizards don’t retain enough power to still have no real competition. They’ve got the name brand after all. I’m just worried it’s going to be everyone fighting each other while Wizards sits cushy and doesn’t have to nor bother to improve their game.
"Your Wisteria sounds like kind of a mess." This comment is to our Wisteria's mental health what a hammer is to a nail. (Also canon Wisteria is now 'Messteria'.)
I love how, no matter what you create, I want to watch it. I'm a Pathfinder person, never done D&D 5E, and have no interest in WotC stuff, but I watch your channel all the time. Even when you do embedded sponsorships, I watch them because you make the whole thing so enjoyable: the writing, your delivery, it's just impressive. You rock.
Hell, I’m primarily a Cyberpunk RED and World of Darkness GM, but a lot of Ginny’s tips for creating interesting character backgrounds are still applicable enough that I often recommend her channel to my new players.
Simplifying the spell lists for classes is honestly a great idea. This can make some of the 1/2 like ranger or paladin have completely different builds and im stoked to see it!
@@DuelingDexperts The 5.5 playtest has 3 large spell lists though some classes get unique spells specific to their class such as the Warlock's Eldritch Blast.
@@XanderHarris1023 Which is a very smart way to implement it IMO. One of the main criticisms of shared spell lists is a loss of identity in classes that lean heavily on a specific unique spell, and so it makes sense to just make that spell a class feature instead of a single element justifying a whole unique list.
Tales of the Valiant, Pathfinder 2E Remaster, MCDM's RPG, DnD 5E.X whatever, Critical Role's Daggerheart, etc... so many choices... so finite resources...
I'm especially stoked about Daggerheart. Mostly because the Mercer style of "strong heroes getting even stronger, high stakes, fleshed characters" (Mercer subclasses are considered _strong_ for a reason) appeals to me quite a lot (which is also why a lot of OSR systems with death behind every corner don't appeal to me that much). And I'd expect Daggerheart, being created where it is, would facilitate this style well. That said, Tales of the Valiant also look cool.
Just LARP them Sure its more expensive starting out but the permadeath mechanic from when the city 'guards' take you out means you wont be spending too much ongoing.
Watching this, all I can say is... YES, YES, YES! I fell SO HARD in love with the ancestry/lineage and heritage systems outlined in An Elf and an Orc Had a Little Baby when you covered it, and I am SO GLAD that there is another system being developed with that baked in! It just makes so much sense; covering both nature and nurture.
Fantasy Hero has separated race and culture since 1985. It works fine as long as you want to separate ability and skill. It doesn't work so if magic comes from your bloodline.
Honestly, probably the most interesting thing to me of all the different companies doing their in-house versions of the 5E creative commons will be seeing what kind of things different companies will focus on. What exactly does "streamline" mean to Kobold Press, Onyx Path, Paizo, etc. And then, once theyre all released, make a horrifying nightmare gestalt of all if them. 👹
This trickiest thing about making a 5e variant won't be making better subclasses/etc but making compatible subclasses. It'll be really easy to overpower your book but that will just lead to more of a divide than a conglomeration of the player base.
@@seileurt I don't think this is meant to be compatible with 5th edition. You probably wouldn't play a ToV class in D&D any more than you'd, say, play a Masks playbook in Blades in the Dark.
Already have that planned. Mix all the bits I think work best along with a few of my own hot takes. I've already got my own idea to change how feats/ASI are gained which has created a few dead levels for some classes so I'll need to fill those with something.
@Coffee Man Wizards already has Marvel’s Fantasy Avengers on lock, so more power creeps would just be more of the same. The only real gamer base division would be between system agnostics and loyalists.
Black Flag looks interesting! I haven’t been hyped up by the existing play test material (yet), but I’ve been keeping my eyes open. Some of the rules this video brings up are concepts I might transfer into my 5e game. Even small tweaks to the existing action economy can make your combats way more flexible and dynamic. I’m waiting to see how they handle monsters and items in the future. Those 2 things are my biggest home brews since I rarely find things that suit my sandbox.
Lots of 5E mentioned here.. But most of these things were done by Pathfinder Second Edition such as Backgrounds granting a Feat, Ancestries & Heritages (Instead of Races & Sub-races), and four Magic Traditions (Arcane, Divine, Primal, and Occult). But all in all I think these are amazing and positive changes to embrace! I hope that they push forward and do some other things that Paizo is planning for their Pathfinder Second Edition Remastered changes!
I noticed that, but it makes sense. Even if they're using similar terms as Pathfinder 2e, they're adapting from 5e. Not to mention, Ginny's channel is focused on D&D so it's a better point of comparison for most viewers. Those that know Pathfinder 2e probably wouldn't need the explanation as much anyway.
Since it's rooted in the 5e creative commons, 5e felt like the most natural comparison, although of course lots of these ideas have been implemented in a number of different TTRPGs, including Pathfinder!
Also seems like all there changes are just what one D&D has been play testing. spell rings and rituals changes might be new? Heritages may be a little different( i do prefer their naming vs one D&D’s species)
Wisteria's magic appearing in the mirror is the kind of attention to detail that I aspire to. Chef's kiss. Edit to add my thanks for explaining her ears. I thought I was having a breakdown when I saw Wisteria with long ears. 😬
"Can I use your bathroom?" "Not if you're going to turn the toilet water into yogurt." *Sits down grumpily* That exchange killed me. Also major props for being straight with all of us about the good and the bad!
Besides, Mermaid Girlfriend is crashing in the bathtub this weekend. You really don't want to upset her.😁 Anyone out there remember Mermaid Girlfriend, by the way? Anyone?
Exactly! & a lot of the bad seems like stuff that we can just choose to pull from our other systems to address! We can still use the 5e tables for traits and flaws and stuff. & I Love the idea of separating out lineage, heritage, & backgrounds. Sounds cool to me.
It sounds like they're implementing a lot of interesting changes. I might borrow some ideas here or there once it's complete- if I'm not completely converted of course.
I'll admit to not being the biggest fan of the KP material I've picked up so far, but it sounds like they're putting a lot of thought into their new system. I'll have to float it by my table to see if they'd be interested in giving it a shot.
I've read the playtests, but your videos really highlights all the possibilities it opened up! I'm already excited to turn my D&D campaign into a Tale instead, if you will!
Love the interview style video. Really helped make things easier to understand, especially since a lot of the questions were questions I would have asked.
The closest thing to Cantrip Adept that I can think of in 5e is a Pact of the Tome warlock with a few key invocations. 3 extra cantrips, lots of customization on Eldritch Blast, and even more free spells from invocations.
I’m all for customization, but D&D/OGL is sounding like Starbucks, with all the vendi latte cappuccino ipso facto e pluribus unum yahtzee anal nathrach ooth vas bethud dochiel dien vei… and all I wanted to play is friggin Conan. 🤷🏿♂️
This sounds interesting -- kind of taking the best out of Pathfinder (ancestries and heritages and backgrounds [edit: and the four types of spells]) and D&D (no penalties and bonuses, which are super annoying) and meshing it together and improving upon it? I'm intrigued.
Thanks for the rundown! I wasn't particularly interested in switching, but between you showing how accessible, similar and logical TotV seems to be and just seeing Dave Thuamovore's video on how Wizards sent a Pinkerton agent (which have a long history of hostility to labor movements) to a you tuber's house for accidentally buying a accidentally pre released MTG set, I'm definitely interested in this Kickstarter.
So its seeming like Tales of the Valiant is going to be to 5th ed what Pathfinder was to 3.5. Neat. Will be worth checking out, though from what I have seen here not super in love with the spell lists. I kinda liked that there were certain spells that, outside of some feats or something, could only be used by certain classes.
You might be more into One D&D for that reason - they're kind of going to opposite direction. Today's UA release talks about introducing a bunch of class-exclusive spells. I can see the appeal of both directions, honestly!
@@GinnyDi Was checking that out earlier, there is some stuff I like there. Honestly I think both One DnD and Tales of the Valiant are looking pretty cool, and I do love having me some options when it comes to games to play with my friends!
I love your channel. And I respect you still enjoy the 5th Edition as I play it as well. However, I also love so many other great D&D-style Fantasy RPGs which I hope in the future you cover. Such as Castles & Crusades, Old School Essentials, Dungeon Crawl Classics and so many others ones that are out there that deserve your positive insightful reporting plus I feel learning new systems broadens your knowledge.
Neat. I keep a list-of-sorts of changes I would have made to the 5e system if I were to do something similar, and there are certainly some overlap between my ideas and the changes they've made. I question the choice to call two separate unrelated concepts "spell rings" and "spell circles", though. Seems like something that's bound to cause some confusion.
I gotta admit I was hoping Kobold was going to be making an actual new system instead of a 5e variant. It makes business sense for them to stay close to 5e but I find it disappointing that it's not a new system. I will likely back it but I'm more excited about Break, which I already backed. Anime RPG FTW!
Why act surprised? They've never created anything genuinely original. They've just homebrewed like every normal person around a table already does, and then pass it off as genius and profit off of it.
@Ominous I guess because they said it was going to be their own system when first announced. Several others said the same n are or have made new systems. Matt Carville is making his own. DM Coach system will be new n Shadowdark is new
@@timjfads I feel ya. But again, that would require actual work and they've never done that- just duped people into believing they do and or will. For all the hate that wotc gets, kobold press is arguably worse... they're just a tinier parasite on the bigger one lol.
Super helpful video! I forgot this system was coming so soon! If you get any other opportunities to make video content for Tales of The Valiant, I'm very very interested in hearing more of your takes on how it shakes out as a 5e alternative/supplement! Very cool
Me loving KP products and players have peaked into any of it 😢 so I’ve been gradually introducing things like hedgecrafting, geomancy, and rune knowledge via quest lines so I do hope ToV does remain 5e compatible so i can gradually get us there
Looks pretty sweet, and 5e??? The spell circles sound pretty cool with arcane, divine, primordial, and wierd, and especially the wierd and primordial; while maybe kinda a little more yuan-ti sorcerery or wizardy with seeing how it works?
I'd expect it being similar to PF2E's Arcane (Wizard-stuff), Divine (Cleric-stuff), Primal (=Primordial; Druid-stuff) and Occult (=Wyrd; Witch/Warlock-stuff).
First, great video breaking down the changes in a fun way. Second, I think Kobold Press is great. Third, I believe Tales of the Valiant will be very successful and last but not least, it's just not for me. We jumped to Shadowdark from 5E and my campaign and I prefer the easier OSR-like experience more than 5E/TotV. I genuinely wish Kobold Press all the success in their undertaking, but I hope Ginny will cover other systems like Shadowdark more in the future as well.
5:23 KOBOLDPRESS STOLE MY IDEA! I've explained a few times on DnDNext subreddit that I in universe refer to spell levels as spell gates and visualized it exactly like the nesting rings pictured in order to convey how opening an outer gate also opens up the lesser gates inside it. I haven't seen this idea portrayed anywhere else before except by me. IF they got the idea from my comments, that's pretty cool! They are just missing the part where I refer to spell slots as as charges on a key and how a key manifests in different ways depending on your class. For paladins and sorcerers, the keys rather violently force open the gates. Artificers and wizards do not really have keys but are instead keen studiers of lockpicking techniques. Bards are somewhere in the middle in how their keys are like a tuning fork that resonates with creativity, theorized to be the most primal form of magic, until the key semi-forcefully wiggles itself in to shape. Divine casters tap in to their intuitive connection to divine cosmic forces like a deity or nature itself ant that's how they gain their keys. Finally, warlocks are marked by their patron in a way that allows them to basically deceive the gates in to opening.
Great Vid. It's interesting to see how the post OGL thing is all shaking out. I feel WotC are putting a lot of energy into trying to keep market dominance, but I still feel there is this 'barrier' between the company and the fans; it feels like there is this big cloud of 'unsaid stuff' whenever they do a video, and the vibe has definately changed. However they do have some good ideas. I hope Tales of the Valient does well though!
Lineage and Heritage, Feats at lvl 1, Sounds just like Pathfinder? Oh wait, no weapon proffiencies for wizards...PF just allowed for Wizards to be Trained in simple weapons. It IS different! 😅❤ Great info and fun vid!
You're one of the very, very few that can do a fun sponsorship. Kudos! Also...this is the majestic power of open licenses - this system is combining aspects of 5e and PF2e and some of their own original design, creating a whole new interesting product!
It sounds like they've taken inspiration from other game systems as well, rather than sticking purely to the scope of 5e, which is exactly the attitude I respect in game design.
I would ask if she can turn the water into pudding, way more tasty than yogourt. Also this seems like a fun system to create fantasy characters for stories as well. I hope the kickstarter goes well. 🙂 Hum... I wonder if this can be adapted for sci-fi settings too.
I gotta say, with the name "black flag" i was majorly expecting a pirate themed fantasy game as opposed to another high fantasy medieval D&D-like game. Its really disappointing but at the same time, the content in the playtest doc looks really fun (havent had a chance to play it yet), so I'll give it a shot as soon as my current campaign ends seriously tho, why would they make the beta name "black flag" is that some reference to Kobold Press's work i dont know? Eeither way, how was anyone not supposed to expect pirates. Hopefully there could be a pirate themed supplement in the future
@@jedbex7070 I guess? It's more about how they removed their most iconic feature and just made them worse because they claim some DMs don't give short rests. Tough. Encourage those DMs to get better at running a game. Don't knee cap an entire class to accommodate them.
@@ElementalDAR a different RUclipsr (can't remember his name at the moment) once mentioned that he was concerned that WotC would get rid of short rests since the Tasha's subclasses and recent UA had (proficiency bonus)/long rest abilities instead of once/short rest abilities. Given what's happening to warlocks, I'm putting more stock into that RUclipsr's claim
I love this video format, and found myself laughing and your banter (you're really good at making this natural)... It made me wonder how your character's would react to each other.
Very reminiscent of An Elf and an Orc Had a Little Baby. I love that system (which I found from your video). It makes so much more sense, and gives significantly greater variety.
Really amazing video, thank you! I didn't know much about Project Black Flag and wasn't sure I'd be interested, but hearing your breakdown definitely makes me want to check out the KS.
It's a simple change, but I love that they've renamed spell levels as Rings. It helps to differentiate between the other uses of the word "level" (which is something Gary Gygax commented on way back in 1st edition-and then promptly ignored!), and by conveying the concept of expanding rings that contain lesser rings, it effectively communicates the idea that lesser ring spells can be cast with greater ring slots.
So many things here borrowed from the Wizard’s one D&D play test. I have very little utility for this system or any of its supplements unless they continue to also be fifth edition compatible.
I'm loving the new spell slot terminology. It's always felt weirdly meta to me when trying to discuss spells and spell slots in character because of the term "level". Even when running Pathfinder or 5e I may steal the ring term for my settings.
I look forward to incorporating Black Flag/Valiant content into my D&D games. I definitely like "Rings" for spells as they're a hell of a lot less confusing than "levels."
This feels really similar to the changes to One Dnd which personally I really enjoy and the differences are really interesting. Looking forward to hear more about it
Honestly: well done Ginny. This is such a professional and clear video and at this point I feel like you could sell me anything and I might get it just by being so impressed with you as a salesperson. Wizards hat off to you Ginny, you inspire me both creatively and professionally. 😍⭐
4:41 I must say, being a traveller and not having a dagger is like being a runner without shoelaces. That's a useful tool if you actually picture how you do stuff based on your inventory. And it's not like you can't use a dagger without proficiency to stab someone if you really need to.
That all sounds really cool. I wonder if the similarity to 5e would allow you to run 5e Campaign books/adventures you already own but with Valiant characters. Would especially be handy since Kobold Press has a bunch of 5e compatible books, and being able to still use those would clearly be beneficial.
The next two years or so are going to be *very* interesting in the fantasy RPG marketplace and community. I'm definitely considering adapting my current 5e homebrew game to another system (to paraphrase Edgin from *Honor Among Thieves*, 5e now has 'a stink on it'), so I will be watching this system carefully. Thanks for the wonderful video, Ginny!
Thank you thank you thank you for the spell ring concept, Kobold Press! That alone is almost enough to get me to switch - D&D drives me crazy by referring to spell tiers as “levels” which confuses so many new players when they’re level 3 and wonder why they can’t cast level 3 spells. And it so clearly illustrates the concept of upcasting, which is another tricky thing to explain at times.
One thing all my players and characters have is, a dagger. This goes back to second edition, but was popularized in NCIS with Gibbs Rule #9 "Never go anywhere without a knife." When new players question it, my brother asks "What do you use to cut up your apples?"
Omgggg I love that they used different words for spell levels/rings vs character levels, that's hands-down the most common thing new players I help or talk to are confused by.
This is a great way to present the differences. Also, TotV does seem like it'll be a great spin-off for those that don't want to stick with 5e the way that Pathfinder was for 3.5.
So Kobold are doing for 5E what Paizo did for 3.5 - nice move from them. I’m avoiding KS just now, but will definitely keep an eye on how things look when the books hit full release.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I yelled "Finally!" when you talked about spell levels being changed to spell rings. Spell levels in D&D always irked me because you'd think you'd get access to those spell levels when your character is that level, so finding out its a completely separate level track was hard to wrap my head around. Granted I was also confused by that because the first serious system my group actually played with was 13th Age. In that system you get access to different spells/powers/ maneuvers/ whatever at odd levels. So instead spells being 1-10, there are only odd numbered spell levels. So you starting at level one you get access to your class's level 1st spells, and when you hit third level you get access to the 3rd level spells. It's easy to know what spells you can use. So yeah, glad Kobold is making the language and imagery for spells a lot clearer in terms of spell levels.
So far, we can look forward to three different but (hopefully) compatible games: 5e 2014, 5e 2024, and Tales of the Valiant. Four, if Daggerheart is based on 5e too. That's a beautiful and fascinatingly messy idea and I'm all for it. Bring your characters from different systems to the table and let's see what happens. I wonder if Tales of the Valiant is going to be published under the ORC license, just to make things even more delicious. Also, I'd drop the "Tales of" part from the name. But I guess that's just me.
Seems interesting. My group moved over to pf2e and it's cool to see that Kobold press is using the same 4 categories of magic (switching occult to weird)
What bothers me about 3rd party content for DnD, and others, is the somewhat outrageous price for the material. I have a pretty confident feeling that these 2 books, if sold separately, will cost around $50 each. Questonomicon, for example, is around that price.. and many, many others are as well. Now, while some of us can afford to drop $50 on a book here and there, many of us cant. Especially kids who don't have money anyway. The argument is always made, anytime this topic comes up, that "Digital copies are cheaper." And that's fortunate, but I think most of us would prefer a hard cover copy for our books. Maybe it sounds like I'm just thinking cheap, but we're talking about 3rd party content specifically, because official books are as low as $15 on Amazon.. And that's why i own about 20 official books... and only 6 or 7 3rd party books. Because I can buy 2 or 3 official books on Amazon, get free shipping in 2 days, and save $5 for a red bull in the morning, for the price of just 1 3rd party book.
One concern that sticks out to me is the set value on how many rituals a caster can have. This is of course without real context, but after the general nerf to magic that 5e brought about (spell power and magic items) ..I dunno.
Ginny nails it once again, breaking down the materials available in a delightfully engaging fashion. My ADHD brain appreciates this *and* Ginny remains an excellent salesperson
Having Ginny do this video is the best thing they could have possibly done
SAME!!
Now we need Paizo to step up and pay for a video on Pathfinder for the trifecta where there's 3 different versions of Wisteria arguing over who gets to banish the demon Augury conjured.
@damnghen That would be quite entertaining and a good opportunity to compare systems, but I doubt we'll see that one
Re: backgrounds vs. heritage, I really like the idea. Take Aragorn from LotR as an example. He has a noble heritage, being born into the line of kings and raised in Rivendell, but has an outlander background, travelling with the Dunedain and choosing to make himself a pariah by becoming Strider. Neat nuance to improve character backgrounds.
Great example. It also made me think of Baranor from Middle Earth: Shadow of War. He's ethnically a Haradrim, but was raised in Minas Ithil and culturally Gondorian.
@@KABLAMM_ Aragorn? He sure was old for a human though...
I do like this. Rather than automatically giving everybody night vision, you can be a human with certain traits from other races. Or you can be mostly elf with Khajiit traits.
@KABLAMM. He’s Numenorean, living twice the lifespan of a normal human.
Holy Heck! Someone is actually adding a dedicated "Culture" step to D&Doid character creation! I've only been boring my group with the idea since early 4th edition.
I love this idea! It would work great for a few characters in our group, like the Tiefling who was raised by an Elf priest and ran away from home to join the circus and became a Bard or the Dhampir (homebrewed because 5e's was just vampire tbh) who was raised by Dwarven nobles and became a Paladin.
Pathfinder 2n ed has that option too. In case you want to compare (which I will because this seems more accessible)
We have that at least since Adavanced 5 E
@@thodan467 There's an Advanced 5e?
@@Zayfod It's called Level Up by Enworld Publishing.
On the one hand, it's great that people who enjoy 5e, but are fed up with WotC, are going to have so many alternatives to choose from. On the other hand, I'm worried that the market is going to fragment so much that none of them will be able to pull in a large enough audience to stay in business. And pity the poor game store owner who has to figure out which of these "5e-alikes" to give valuable shelf space to...
^^ competition typically leads to better prices, and better quality products. I think this is great for the community. Sure it’s gonna be hard to fight for shelf space, but that’s what makes products better
Also remember that most game systems remain profitable enough to stay in print despite having a tiny fraction of the customers that 5e has had. Even if the community splintered into 10, each preferring their own system and absolutely no overlap, they'd still be more profitable than the average TTRPG.
Ita going to be a small shogunate wars. Im bummed.
Admittedly there aren't a lot of game shops in my country so this is based on two. But what I've seen so far is:
1) A run on Paizo books, with the Pathfinder Player's Handbook being out of stock everywhere and more space given to remaining Paizo stock/advertising
2) D&D books being given less space then they were before
3) More books that aren't related to D&D and don't have a medieval fantasy style setting on the shelves.
I haven't noticed anything that's been kickstarted or that I recognise as a '5e-alike' on sale yet. I *have* seen more copies of things like Traveller, Rune Quest, Call of Cuthulu, Modipus' 2d20 system games etc. I've also seen a few I'd never heard of but didn't really seem 5e based, most recent was one set in 1800s Scandanavia with an occult mystery feel. From what I've seen there hasn't been a noticeable change in stocking for World of Darkness or Chronicles of Darkness.
Still can't find physical copies of GURPs books for love or money but I think that's a long standing thing.
@@flyingblind5677 I’m just hoping that Wizards don’t retain enough power to still have no real competition. They’ve got the name brand after all. I’m just worried it’s going to be everyone fighting each other while Wizards sits cushy and doesn’t have to nor bother to improve their game.
"Your Wisteria sounds like kind of a mess." This comment is to our Wisteria's mental health what a hammer is to a nail.
(Also canon Wisteria is now 'Messteria'.)
It was the 'yeah 🤷♀️' for me
I love how you constantly create stories to present information.
I love how, no matter what you create, I want to watch it. I'm a Pathfinder person, never done D&D 5E, and have no interest in WotC stuff, but I watch your channel all the time. Even when you do embedded sponsorships, I watch them because you make the whole thing so enjoyable: the writing, your delivery, it's just impressive.
You rock.
I agree with this sentiment.
I love Ginny's presentation and even though I don't run D&D I've applied concepts from her videos to other systems I run.
Hell, I’m primarily a Cyberpunk RED and World of Darkness GM, but a lot of Ginny’s tips for creating interesting character backgrounds are still applicable enough that I often recommend her channel to my new players.
Simplifying the spell lists for classes is honestly a great idea. This can make some of the 1/2 like ranger or paladin have completely different builds and im stoked to see it!
not to take anything from them implementing it that way, but Pathfinder uses pretty much that exact system
@@pupyasko1233as does the new 5e play test rules if I'm not mistaken
@@DuelingDexperts The 5.5 playtest has 3 large spell lists though some classes get unique spells specific to their class such as the Warlock's Eldritch Blast.
One D&D does basically the same.
@@XanderHarris1023 Which is a very smart way to implement it IMO. One of the main criticisms of shared spell lists is a loss of identity in classes that lean heavily on a specific unique spell, and so it makes sense to just make that spell a class feature instead of a single element justifying a whole unique list.
Tales of the Valiant, Pathfinder 2E Remaster, MCDM's RPG, DnD 5E.X whatever, Critical Role's Daggerheart, etc... so many choices... so finite resources...
the answer is Gurps and Mythras obviously
I'm especially stoked about Daggerheart. Mostly because the Mercer style of "strong heroes getting even stronger, high stakes, fleshed characters" (Mercer subclasses are considered _strong_ for a reason) appeals to me quite a lot (which is also why a lot of OSR systems with death behind every corner don't appeal to me that much). And I'd expect Daggerheart, being created where it is, would facilitate this style well.
That said, Tales of the Valiant also look cool.
Screw em all, I just gonna keep playing Swords & Wizardry!
@@KthulhuXxx good for you.
Just LARP them
Sure its more expensive starting out but the permadeath mechanic from when the city 'guards' take you out means you wont be spending too much ongoing.
Watching this, all I can say is...
YES, YES, YES! I fell SO HARD in love with the ancestry/lineage and heritage systems outlined in An Elf and an Orc Had a Little Baby when you covered it, and I am SO GLAD that there is another system being developed with that baked in! It just makes so much sense; covering both nature and nurture.
Pathfinder 2nd Edition also handles ancestry and heritage this way.
@@JohnRieping I thought I remembered so, but I wasn't confident so I didn't mention it.
Fantasy Hero has separated race and culture since 1985. It works fine as long as you want to separate ability and skill. It doesn't work so if magic comes from your bloodline.
Honestly, probably the most interesting thing to me of all the different companies doing their in-house versions of the 5E creative commons will be seeing what kind of things different companies will focus on. What exactly does "streamline" mean to Kobold Press, Onyx Path, Paizo, etc.
And then, once theyre all released, make a horrifying nightmare gestalt of all if them. 👹
"And then, once theyre all released, make a horrifying nightmare gestalt of all if them. 👹" This is the way.
This trickiest thing about making a 5e variant won't be making better subclasses/etc but making compatible subclasses. It'll be really easy to overpower your book but that will just lead to more of a divide than a conglomeration of the player base.
@@seileurt I don't think this is meant to be compatible with 5th edition. You probably wouldn't play a ToV class in D&D any more than you'd, say, play a Masks playbook in Blades in the Dark.
Already have that planned. Mix all the bits I think work best along with a few of my own hot takes. I've already got my own idea to change how feats/ASI are gained which has created a few dead levels for some classes so I'll need to fill those with something.
@Coffee Man Wizards already has Marvel’s Fantasy Avengers on lock, so more power creeps would just be more of the same. The only real gamer base division would be between system agnostics and loyalists.
Black Flag looks interesting! I haven’t been hyped up by the existing play test material (yet), but I’ve been keeping my eyes open.
Some of the rules this video brings up are concepts I might transfer into my 5e game. Even small tweaks to the existing action economy can make your combats way more flexible and dynamic.
I’m waiting to see how they handle monsters and items in the future. Those 2 things are my biggest home brews since I rarely find things that suit my sandbox.
Hi crispy! Hope you get the ideas you need
At this point, I think Crispy should just release his own rules variant lol. That ghast variant was so good.
Lots of 5E mentioned here.. But most of these things were done by Pathfinder Second Edition such as Backgrounds granting a Feat, Ancestries & Heritages (Instead of Races & Sub-races), and four Magic Traditions (Arcane, Divine, Primal, and Occult). But all in all I think these are amazing and positive changes to embrace! I hope that they push forward and do some other things that Paizo is planning for their Pathfinder Second Edition Remastered changes!
I noticed that, but it makes sense. Even if they're using similar terms as Pathfinder 2e, they're adapting from 5e. Not to mention, Ginny's channel is focused on D&D so it's a better point of comparison for most viewers. Those that know Pathfinder 2e probably wouldn't need the explanation as much anyway.
As mentioned on Roll for Combat many of WoTC's current designers helped create Pathfinder 2e.
Since it's rooted in the 5e creative commons, 5e felt like the most natural comparison, although of course lots of these ideas have been implemented in a number of different TTRPGs, including Pathfinder!
Also seems like all there changes are just what one D&D has been play testing. spell rings and rituals changes might be new? Heritages may be a little different( i do prefer their naming vs one D&D’s species)
Wisteria's magic appearing in the mirror is the kind of attention to detail that I aspire to. Chef's kiss.
Edit to add my thanks for explaining her ears. I thought I was having a breakdown when I saw Wisteria with long ears. 😬
Characters showing up are always such a great way to have these conversations!
"Can I use your bathroom?"
"Not if you're going to turn the toilet water into yogurt."
*Sits down grumpily*
That exchange killed me. Also major props for being straight with all of us about the good and the bad!
Besides, Mermaid Girlfriend is crashing in the bathtub this weekend. You really don't want to upset her.😁
Anyone out there remember Mermaid Girlfriend, by the way? Anyone?
@@dougmhd2006 that theme song was unbelievably catchy.
I was already dazed about the yogurt thing, then they brought it up again I just about died. The third time was pushing it though.
Exactly! & a lot of the bad seems like stuff that we can just choose to pull from our other systems to address!
We can still use the 5e tables for traits and flaws and stuff.
& I Love the idea of separating out lineage, heritage, & backgrounds.
Sounds cool to me.
I must say Tales of The Valiant looks very promising so far, the playtests sure got our GM exited.
I hope they were excited before they exited.
@Googie Gress The exile exited after being excited.
Your welcome… DANGIT, ALMOST HAD IT!!
Give us Gnomes Kobold Press! (This was really great! I haven't had a chance to see Tales of The Valiant/black flag project yet.)
It sounds like they're implementing a lot of interesting changes. I might borrow some ideas here or there once it's complete- if I'm not completely converted of course.
This video is so well made. Such a great intro/review/commentary on a brand new system. Definitely made me excited to try it out! 🤘🏻
Thanks friend!!
I am SO excited for this to come out! Also, I love how Ginny presents the info, it's entertaining and engaging.
Sponsored or not, that was still really well laid out and described. Thanks for the clarity Ginny!
I'll admit to not being the biggest fan of the KP material I've picked up so far, but it sounds like they're putting a lot of thought into their new system. I'll have to float it by my table to see if they'd be interested in giving it a shot.
After WotC sent a Pinkerton death squad after someone for a few leaked Magic cards, that was actually wizard's fault, I am resuming the boycott.
Yeah I was thinking maybe I'll give One D&D a look. Nope...
I am kinda loving the idea of 5e now being free to branch out in all these new projects. It's vety cool. :D
I've read the playtests, but your videos really highlights all the possibilities it opened up! I'm already excited to turn my D&D campaign into a Tale instead, if you will!
Love the interview style video. Really helped make things easier to understand, especially since a lot of the questions were questions I would have asked.
Agreed, but she might want to vet her choice in interviewees if they prefer making yogurt toilets. 🤣
The closest thing to Cantrip Adept that I can think of in 5e is a Pact of the Tome warlock with a few key invocations. 3 extra cantrips, lots of customization on Eldritch Blast, and even more free spells from invocations.
I’m all for customization, but D&D/OGL is sounding like Starbucks, with all the vendi latte cappuccino ipso facto e pluribus unum yahtzee anal nathrach ooth vas bethud dochiel dien vei… and all I wanted to play is friggin Conan. 🤷🏿♂️
Respect for giving honest critique with your overview, even while being paid to advertise Tales of the Valiant.
This sounds interesting -- kind of taking the best out of Pathfinder (ancestries and heritages and backgrounds [edit: and the four types of spells]) and D&D (no penalties and bonuses, which are super annoying) and meshing it together and improving upon it? I'm intrigued.
Thanks for the rundown! I wasn't particularly interested in switching, but between you showing how accessible, similar and logical TotV seems to be and just seeing Dave Thuamovore's video on how Wizards sent a Pinkerton agent (which have a long history of hostility to labor movements) to a you tuber's house for accidentally buying a accidentally pre released MTG set, I'm definitely interested in this Kickstarter.
So its seeming like Tales of the Valiant is going to be to 5th ed what Pathfinder was to 3.5.
Neat. Will be worth checking out, though from what I have seen here not super in love with the spell lists. I kinda liked that there were certain spells that, outside of some feats or something, could only be used by certain classes.
You might be more into One D&D for that reason - they're kind of going to opposite direction. Today's UA release talks about introducing a bunch of class-exclusive spells. I can see the appeal of both directions, honestly!
@@GinnyDi Was checking that out earlier, there is some stuff I like there. Honestly I think both One DnD and Tales of the Valiant are looking pretty cool, and I do love having me some options when it comes to games to play with my friends!
I love your channel. And I respect you still enjoy the 5th Edition as I play it as well. However, I also love so many other great D&D-style Fantasy RPGs which I hope in the future you cover. Such as Castles & Crusades, Old School Essentials, Dungeon Crawl Classics and so many others ones that are out there that deserve your positive insightful reporting plus I feel learning new systems broadens your knowledge.
You would make such a good teacher, you are so good at communication and breaking down huge bits of information into bite-sized pieces.
Neat. I keep a list-of-sorts of changes I would have made to the 5e system if I were to do something similar, and there are certainly some overlap between my ideas and the changes they've made. I question the choice to call two separate unrelated concepts "spell rings" and "spell circles", though. Seems like something that's bound to cause some confusion.
I gotta admit I was hoping Kobold was going to be making an actual new system instead of a 5e variant. It makes business sense for them to stay close to 5e but I find it disappointing that it's not a new system. I will likely back it but I'm more excited about Break, which I already backed. Anime RPG FTW!
Why act surprised? They've never created anything genuinely original. They've just homebrewed like every normal person around a table already does, and then pass it off as genius and profit off of it.
@Ominous I guess because they said it was going to be their own system when first announced. Several others said the same n are or have made new systems. Matt Carville is making his own. DM Coach system will be new n Shadowdark is new
@@timjfads I feel ya. But again, that would require actual work and they've never done that- just duped people into believing they do and or will. For all the hate that wotc gets, kobold press is arguably worse... they're just a tinier parasite on the bigger one lol.
This is great coverage! Loved the explanations of where things are like 5e, and where things are more intuitive than 5e 👍
Bob!
Thanks friend!! 🥰
In a world where the WotC is literally sending the Pinkertons after people, always test the waters for more inviting options. :)
Super helpful video! I forgot this system was coming so soon! If you get any other opportunities to make video content for Tales of The Valiant, I'm very very interested in hearing more of your takes on how it shakes out as a 5e alternative/supplement! Very cool
Fantastic video! I’m glad Kobold press is getting in contact with TTRPG creators.
Kobold Press has been sponsoring me consistently for years! They are very supportive of/connected with the TTRPG creator community.
@@GinnyDi I didn't know that that's terrific! I've liked the company for a while but I hadn't seen a lot of them but I must have missed those.
Me loving KP products and players have peaked into any of it 😢 so I’ve been gradually introducing things like hedgecrafting, geomancy, and rune knowledge via quest lines so I do hope ToV does remain 5e compatible so i can gradually get us there
Looks pretty sweet, and 5e??? The spell circles sound pretty cool with arcane, divine, primordial, and wierd, and especially the wierd and primordial; while maybe kinda a little more yuan-ti sorcerery or wizardy with seeing how it works?
I'd expect it being similar to PF2E's Arcane (Wizard-stuff), Divine (Cleric-stuff), Primal (=Primordial; Druid-stuff) and Occult (=Wyrd; Witch/Warlock-stuff).
I love the Cantrip adept subclass in my Tome of Heroes book. It is my favorite 3rd party book so far.
First, great video breaking down the changes in a fun way. Second, I think Kobold Press is great. Third, I believe Tales of the Valiant will be very successful and last but not least, it's just not for me. We jumped to Shadowdark from 5E and my campaign and I prefer the easier OSR-like experience more than 5E/TotV. I genuinely wish Kobold Press all the success in their undertaking, but I hope Ginny will cover other systems like Shadowdark more in the future as well.
5:23 KOBOLDPRESS STOLE MY IDEA! I've explained a few times on DnDNext subreddit that I in universe refer to spell levels as spell gates and visualized it exactly like the nesting rings pictured in order to convey how opening an outer gate also opens up the lesser gates inside it. I haven't seen this idea portrayed anywhere else before except by me. IF they got the idea from my comments, that's pretty cool!
They are just missing the part where I refer to spell slots as as charges on a key and how a key manifests in different ways depending on your class. For paladins and sorcerers, the keys rather violently force open the gates. Artificers and wizards do not really have keys but are instead keen studiers of lockpicking techniques. Bards are somewhere in the middle in how their keys are like a tuning fork that resonates with creativity, theorized to be the most primal form of magic, until the key semi-forcefully wiggles itself in to shape. Divine casters tap in to their intuitive connection to divine cosmic forces like a deity or nature itself ant that's how they gain their keys. Finally, warlocks are marked by their patron in a way that allows them to basically deceive the gates in to opening.
Great Vid.
It's interesting to see how the post OGL thing is all shaking out. I feel WotC are putting a lot of energy into trying to keep market dominance, but I still feel there is this 'barrier' between the company and the fans; it feels like there is this big cloud of 'unsaid stuff' whenever they do a video, and the vibe has definately changed.
However they do have some good ideas. I hope Tales of the Valient does well though!
Lineage and Heritage, Feats at lvl 1, Sounds just like Pathfinder? Oh wait, no weapon proffiencies for wizards...PF just allowed for Wizards to be Trained in simple weapons. It IS different! 😅❤ Great info and fun vid!
You're one of the very, very few that can do a fun sponsorship. Kudos!
Also...this is the majestic power of open licenses - this system is combining aspects of 5e and PF2e and some of their own original design, creating a whole new interesting product!
Oh fiddlesparks!
It sounds like they've taken inspiration from other game systems as well, rather than sticking purely to the scope of 5e, which is exactly the attitude I respect in game design.
I would ask if she can turn the water into pudding, way more tasty than yogourt.
Also this seems like a fun system to create fantasy characters for stories as well. I hope the kickstarter goes well. 🙂
Hum... I wonder if this can be adapted for sci-fi settings too.
@Scott's Precious Little Account I'm a fake comment? Do I get paid for this or just heartless ridicule?
I gotta say, with the name "black flag" i was majorly expecting a pirate themed fantasy game as opposed to another high fantasy medieval D&D-like game. Its really disappointing but at the same time, the content in the playtest doc looks really fun (havent had a chance to play it yet), so I'll give it a shot as soon as my current campaign ends
seriously tho, why would they make the beta name "black flag" is that some reference to Kobold Press's work i dont know? Eeither way, how was anyone not supposed to expect pirates. Hopefully there could be a pirate themed supplement in the future
"It worries me that I don't know what you'd consider to be weird..."
Just check the Weird spell list, I'm sure that'll clear it up.
i have to remind myself that you're just talking to yourself, the characterization is so good
Ginny you have to be the most entertaining and creative people when it comes to your ads and sponsored vids. A+
After reading what WotC just did to warlocks, yeah I'll check out Kobold Press.
Oh god what did they do?
@@InquisitorThomas The big thing is they now get spell slots and progression like a half caster. And they come back on a long rest.
So.. just go Paladin for better abilities?
@@jedbex7070 I guess? It's more about how they removed their most iconic feature and just made them worse because they claim some DMs don't give short rests.
Tough. Encourage those DMs to get better at running a game. Don't knee cap an entire class to accommodate them.
@@ElementalDAR a different RUclipsr (can't remember his name at the moment) once mentioned that he was concerned that WotC would get rid of short rests since the Tasha's subclasses and recent UA had (proficiency bonus)/long rest abilities instead of once/short rest abilities. Given what's happening to warlocks, I'm putting more stock into that RUclipsr's claim
I love this video format, and found myself laughing and your banter (you're really good at making this natural)...
It made me wonder how your character's would react to each other.
This sounded more like Pathfinder than dungeons& dragons which I'm on board for
yoghurt watercloset sounds like a new disney ride! BTW, I want a yoghurt spell, or maybe "reflavor" the Grease spell!
great vid Ginny!
Very reminiscent of An Elf and an Orc Had a Little Baby. I love that system (which I found from your video). It makes so much more sense, and gives significantly greater variety.
Really amazing video, thank you! I didn't know much about Project Black Flag and wasn't sure I'd be interested, but hearing your breakdown definitely makes me want to check out the KS.
It's a simple change, but I love that they've renamed spell levels as Rings. It helps to differentiate between the other uses of the word "level" (which is something Gary Gygax commented on way back in 1st edition-and then promptly ignored!), and by conveying the concept of expanding rings that contain lesser rings, it effectively communicates the idea that lesser ring spells can be cast with greater ring slots.
So many things here borrowed from the Wizard’s one D&D play test. I have very little utility for this system or any of its supplements unless they continue to also be fifth edition compatible.
Kobold Press: “We WON’T send Pinkerton goons to break your legs unlike THOSE OTHER GUYS, that’s a Kobold Press Guarantee! 😊”
I'm loving the new spell slot terminology. It's always felt weirdly meta to me when trying to discuss spells and spell slots in character because of the term "level". Even when running Pathfinder or 5e I may steal the ring term for my settings.
I look forward to incorporating Black Flag/Valiant content into my D&D games.
I definitely like "Rings" for spells as they're a hell of a lot less confusing than "levels."
I wonder how the Lineage and Heritage system differs from Pathfinder's Ancestry system, so I really am looking forward to it
This feels really similar to the changes to One Dnd which personally I really enjoy and the differences are really interesting. Looking forward to hear more about it
Honestly: well done Ginny. This is such a professional and clear video and at this point I feel like you could sell me anything and I might get it just by being so impressed with you as a salesperson. Wizards hat off to you Ginny, you inspire me both creatively and professionally. 😍⭐
This is an incredibly cute, effective, entertaining advertisement. I genuinely love watching your ad spots. :)
As someone that doesn't love the magic system in D&D this isn't super exciting to me. However I do like the sound of the lineage/heritage system.
I've always been hesitant to try out new systems, but this sounds like something I'd like to check out.
4:41
I must say, being a traveller and not having a dagger is like being a runner without shoelaces. That's a useful tool if you actually picture how you do stuff based on your inventory. And it's not like you can't use a dagger without proficiency to stab someone if you really need to.
1:31 "Have you ever been to the Cloud District? Ofcourse you haven't".
this does make me wonder what they're approach to martial classes is
Great ad Gini! Pretty top notch as far as any ad goes.
And epic skit - definitely feels like 2 of you in the room.
That all sounds really cool. I wonder if the similarity to 5e would allow you to run 5e Campaign books/adventures you already own but with Valiant characters. Would especially be handy since Kobold Press has a bunch of 5e compatible books, and being able to still use those would clearly be beneficial.
I think of all the 5e redesigns I've seen so far (One d&d, LuA5e, and this) Level Up Advanced 5e is my favorite one.
You should always fear when a big company starts on kickstarter, it means the high ups don't even believe in it...
Awesome! Thank you again Ginny for the fun video that I get to learn more ttrpg stuff with!
I like that you put the spell in the mirror on the desk. Nice attention to details.
The next two years or so are going to be *very* interesting in the fantasy RPG marketplace and community. I'm definitely considering adapting my current 5e homebrew game to another system (to paraphrase Edgin from *Honor Among Thieves*, 5e now has 'a stink on it'), so I will be watching this system carefully. Thanks for the wonderful video, Ginny!
The way they’ve defined and clarified lineage, heritage, and background is everything I’ve ever wanted.
Thank you thank you thank you for the spell ring concept, Kobold Press! That alone is almost enough to get me to switch - D&D drives me crazy by referring to spell tiers as “levels” which confuses so many new players when they’re level 3 and wonder why they can’t cast level 3 spells. And it so clearly illustrates the concept of upcasting, which is another tricky thing to explain at times.
One thing all my players and characters have is, a dagger. This goes back to second edition, but was popularized in NCIS with Gibbs Rule #9 "Never go anywhere without a knife." When new players question it, my brother asks "What do you use to cut up your apples?"
my TEETH
DM: The halfling grandmother who asked you to help make an apple pie looks on with horror.
Finally a video I can relate to! I'm so sick of all these dimension-hopping entities interrupting my dedicated erotic lizard fiction reading time.
Omgggg I love that they used different words for spell levels/rings vs character levels, that's hands-down the most common thing new players I help or talk to are confused by.
This is a great way to present the differences. Also, TotV does seem like it'll be a great spin-off for those that don't want to stick with 5e the way that Pathfinder was for 3.5.
So Kobold are doing for 5E what Paizo did for 3.5 - nice move from them. I’m avoiding KS just now, but will definitely keep an eye on how things look when the books hit full release.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I yelled "Finally!" when you talked about spell levels being changed to spell rings.
Spell levels in D&D always irked me because you'd think you'd get access to those spell levels when your character is that level, so finding out its a completely separate level track was hard to wrap my head around.
Granted I was also confused by that because the first serious system my group actually played with was 13th Age. In that system you get access to different spells/powers/ maneuvers/ whatever at odd levels. So instead spells being 1-10, there are only odd numbered spell levels. So you starting at level one you get access to your class's level 1st spells, and when you hit third level you get access to the 3rd level spells. It's easy to know what spells you can use.
So yeah, glad Kobold is making the language and imagery for spells a lot clearer in terms of spell levels.
So far, we can look forward to three different but (hopefully) compatible games: 5e 2014, 5e 2024, and Tales of the Valiant. Four, if Daggerheart is based on 5e too. That's a beautiful and fascinatingly messy idea and I'm all for it. Bring your characters from different systems to the table and let's see what happens. I wonder if Tales of the Valiant is going to be published under the ORC license, just to make things even more delicious.
Also, I'd drop the "Tales of" part from the name. But I guess that's just me.
Seems interesting. My group moved over to pf2e and it's cool to see that Kobold press is using the same 4 categories of magic (switching occult to weird)
I'm so proud of myself for recognizing you on The Party! You should put up a link, it is great.
I shared it on Twitter! RUclips is a kind of awkward place to share quick updates like that.
What bothers me about 3rd party content for DnD, and others, is the somewhat outrageous price for the material. I have a pretty confident feeling that these 2 books, if sold separately, will cost around $50 each. Questonomicon, for example, is around that price.. and many, many others are as well.
Now, while some of us can afford to drop $50 on a book here and there, many of us cant. Especially kids who don't have money anyway.
The argument is always made, anytime this topic comes up, that "Digital copies are cheaper." And that's fortunate, but I think most of us would prefer a hard cover copy for our books.
Maybe it sounds like I'm just thinking cheap, but we're talking about 3rd party content specifically, because official books are as low as $15 on Amazon..
And that's why i own about 20 official books... and only 6 or 7 3rd party books. Because I can buy 2 or 3 official books on Amazon, get free shipping in 2 days, and save $5 for a red bull in the morning, for the price of just 1 3rd party book.
"Streamline 5e,"
Pathfinder 1e Player: "How is that even possible?"
Lucky for Ginny she's not known for evil characters, those visits wouldn't go as well.
Basically a fusion between 5e and pf2e. Definitely want to try it
looks kinda neat, will be waiting for the Monk info
One concern that sticks out to me is the set value on how many rituals a caster can have. This is of course without real context, but after the general nerf to magic that 5e brought about (spell power and magic items) ..I dunno.
Very cool way to compare, contrast, explain, and highlight the new system!