For the bit about Luna getting carried across the ocean by her silk- I know it sounds implausible, but what I THINK Tui was trying to describe in that scene was a phenomenon called "ballooning", which is a method of travel some baby spider species use after hatching to disperse their numbers so they don't end up competing for resources in the same area. Maybe Luna tried to make a ton of silk at once and accidentally made a balloon in the process?
“There is a dragon Starbucks somewhere in these hives and I will not rest until I see it.” Is that a challenge? Because now I wanna draw a dragon Starbucks with dragon names for the coffee drinks
" 'Scale Beverages' " "Now serving Chilled Honeydrops, Silk Net Sundaes and More! Along with old favourites, Bumble Brew, Moth Mochas and our famous Zebra Roast!"
I love that clearsight moved to an entirely different continent and what did she do over there? Just casually, uh, *kiith* the native dragon species there.
I feel like Clearsight had a LOT of kids just to piss off Darkstalker. Imagine Darkstalker if he discovered that there was an whole continent full of his girlfriend’s kids who worship his girlfriend like a goddess.
I've just realized that HiveWings must be very inbred. No matter how many children Clearsight had, in order for the HiveWings to become a different species and not get 'blended' into the SilkWing population, they had to have offspring with their relatives for multiple generations.
@@jammingpython8986 y e a h is gonna be Uber honest, I can actually see him doing something similar to them plague wise. //like what he tried/attempted with the icewings 😭
I was under the impression that Sunstreak and Clearsight's dragonets just mixed in with the BeetleWings and 1500 years they split into two distincts species. Though now I'm laughing myself silly at the idea of just how busy Clearsight must have gotten with what turned out to be multiple BeetleWings to spark an emtire other species. Good on her. Litterally in this case. God ita probably a good thing Darkstalker never saw her again. That would be an AWKWARD conversation.
*Darkstalker appears on the continent* *Finds Clearsight* Darkstalker: Clearsight I missed you so much, let's go home and rule over the wor- I mean be together again ❤ Clearsight: Oh, Darkstalker, hi.. might have to have a change of plan. KIDS, COME OVER HERE! *Army of yellow stripey dragons suddenly bursts through the trees* Dragonettes: Yes, mama? Darkstalker: 👀
I think the reason they have more advanced technology is that a nightwing’s natural personality is an inventor, but with the nightwing’s on the main continent starving to death and therefore not having their natural personality little advancements where made While hivewings are half nightwing so they will get the nightwing personality without the starving side affects
I have a feeling that a Venomous Bite would be quite common too because in book 4 it states that Nightwings attack their prey, wait for the venom to kill the animal, and then eat the rotten corpse.
@@janea123 bit late to the convo, but that doesn't seem to be the case entirely. Nightwings seem to culture 'rot bite' in the sense of how we use to believe Komodo dragons did. Enough bacteria/viral grow in their saliva that they transfered directly into their preys blood and let them get sick and die. This seems to be supported by Starlight, Deathbringer and Moon not really having the same ability only because they eat fresh kills. I could be entirely wrong though.
Clear sight only had like 2-3 husbands in Pantala (couldn’t remember exactly) she just had a SH- TON of dragonets with them. My head cannon is that she had so many kids because of how strong her future sight was, so because she could already feel the love for them, she would be devastated if she never met them.
Yay! HiveWings are my favorite tribe. I’m pretty sure HiveWings can technically be named after any invertebrate animal (e.g. Lady Bloodworm), but most are named after insects and other arthropods (with the exception of butterflies and moths, which as you said are reserved for the SilkWings). Also, loved your passive-aggressive deconstruction of that plot point at 6:14 🤣
I'm not that surprised that wasp didn't die when pineapple melted her face, Queen Scarlet survived getting her face melted by Glory albeit she was permanently scarred
Yassss! Well I mean theyr'e both descendants of beetle wings so I don't see why not in a same vid! And ur vids r so fun and exiting to watch Charcoal! Keep up the good work! (I mean if u want UWU.) Hehe 3rd comment…
Imagine darkstalker finding out how many dragons clearsight mated with, i mean obviously he will be like: wowee such a bigg family cuz hes know peacemaker, but imagine the old darkstalker finding this out
I think it’s because it’s a touchy subject, but yeah, I don’t think arc 3 handled the slavery all that well, especially when they didn’t really focus on it anyway. I wish it was talked about a bit more.
The funny thing is all of the main villains got venom-spat at some point~ Darkstalker's eye got melted by Kinkajou, but he doesn't have a scar because he made himself invulnerable. So that's one thing all the villains have in common 🤣
It would be cool if Pantala had another species of dragon that was in hiding due to the breath of evil situation. Whether they're another type of sea dragon, or a different type that hid underground for the most part and wasn't seen
@@CharcoalsDen Also, it was mentioned in book 15 that the rule about one member of the household working was only in Bloodworm Hive. No hate meant by this, love your videos! ☺️
A note on Wasp's blood: Queen Wasp only had green blood because she'd been ingesting the Breath of Evil plant. While the rest of the tribe had all been injected with it in their eggs, the dosage is too small to permanently change their blood color, though it does affect the hue of the inside of their eggshell.
One question I'd like answered: After the rare Flame-stilk awakens from metamorphosis, would it be possible for it to then touch a Fire-scales Skywing like Peril without getting burned?
I really hope the next book really expands on silk wing abilities they could have done so much more with there antenna and silk. I also hope thry dont add to many new characters. I think more character development for blue is needed he was really only in the first book of the arc so making allot of return charaters is highly preferred for the next arc but 2-5 new characters wouldnt be bad also hope to see more of them on both continents
"There is a dragon Starbucks somewhere in these hives, and I will *NOT* rest *UNTILL* I see it!" Do you not? Or is someone smuggling coffee to you? Maybe that's why your so hyper. Well my OC Hydatid knows where a Dragon Starbucks is, and he will tell no one. Sorry!
Something I noticed while reading is that Hivewings are just supposed to have paralyzing venom from their stingers, but in book 15, when the Hivewing stabs Moon in the next, it knocks her out, even though it's supposed to just paralyze her. Can someone explain this to me?
This is my theory, in the first arc it is revealed that NightWings bite their prey and let it rot. I think NightWings might be immune to this venom/bacteria because it is in their mouth, and they then eat the prey that was poisoned with it. HiveWings are descended from NightWings, so she might also be immune to this HiveWing venom. (This heavily relies on my Theory that NightWings are immune to their own venom)
Welcome to Coffee Wing! (TM). Here is our menu, we now sell breakfast foods and dessert as well! (the $ symbol after the number is how many scales it costs) -Star Latte. 10$ -Roast Wildebeef Sandwich. 60$ Fell free to give menu item recommendations because I am lazy :p
I need to make a correction. Moon didnt take a drink that allowed her to communicate with the hivemind, pineapple took a drink that made him get overtaken by the hivemind.
I don't like either of them because of their eight wings. I'm all for the classic dragon design with four legs and two wings, but I draw the line at four legs and eight wings. As a side note, Wings of Charcoal made a good point stating that the Pantalan tribes were always doomed to be overshadowed by the Pyrrhian tribes. Let's face it: The Pyrrhian tribes are more charismatic than the Pantalan ones!
I still dont get how silk wings are not powerful like- they should still be beetle wings where the hive wings branched of from them- AHFJSBHSFDSJFJSDNkajkjsd
@@CharcoalsDen Same :P For real though - I've been thinking about setting up a collab with some of the big WoF analysis youtubers. Would you be interested?
Clearsight certainly made up for lost opportunities to have kids. I don't blame her. After getting away from a toxic relationship with a lunatic that happily committed patricide, I'd say she deserved a life of bliss. To put it another way, she earned a life of Heaven since she spent so much time in Hell.
I don’t know 100% but I think you pronounce Pyrria as F - ear- ia Or it might just be how I spell it…(Phyrria, although it looks and sounds better lol)
Considering that almost every butterfly species has black on them somewhere, and that silkwings are based on butterflies, the fact that silkwings cant be black seems pretty unrealistic to me. I know this is a fantasy world, but im pretty sure silkwings should be black. Wait a minute; you said their SCALES cant be black. That doesnt mean their wings cant be black.
For the bit about Luna getting carried across the ocean by her silk- I know it sounds implausible, but what I THINK Tui was trying to describe in that scene was a phenomenon called "ballooning", which is a method of travel some baby spider species use after hatching to disperse their numbers so they don't end up competing for resources in the same area. Maybe Luna tried to make a ton of silk at once and accidentally made a balloon in the process?
That's actually a solid theory
bro that isn't a bad theory, I remember is Charlotte's web, Charlotte's babies did that
I agree this is what I thought too!
Yeah, that was what I was thinking! That doesn’t make it any less strange for a dragonet though… that must’ve been a lot of silk
Yeah
“There is a dragon Starbucks somewhere in these hives and I will not rest until I see it.” Is that a challenge? Because now I wanna draw a dragon Starbucks with dragon names for the coffee drinks
Wingbucks
Moonbucks
Starwings
Take your pick
Seeing as how advanced Pantala is and the fact that they have coffee already, there probably is some kind of Pantalan Starbucks coffee place thing
What's next HiveWing's developing, cannons and crossbows? Jeez.
" 'Scale Beverages' "
"Now serving Chilled Honeydrops, Silk Net Sundaes and More!
Along with old favourites, Bumble Brew, Moth Mochas and our famous Zebra Roast!"
Now serving order no. 4! Order... Uhhh.. order contents, 3 Sugar wasps, 6 Silk Sundaes, 4: Honey Hives, aaaaaand, 2: Mega Honey flavored scaleffee.
I love that clearsight moved to an entirely different continent and what did she do over there? Just casually, uh, *kiith* the native dragon species there.
not even because of spell, she just left.
I feel like Clearsight had a LOT of kids just to piss off Darkstalker. Imagine Darkstalker if he discovered that there was an whole continent full of his girlfriend’s kids who worship his girlfriend like a goddess.
@@enderwalkgang what? Wow
I've just realized that HiveWings must be very inbred. No matter how many children Clearsight had, in order for the HiveWings to become a different species and not get 'blended' into the SilkWing population, they had to have offspring with their relatives for multiple generations.
@@jammingpython8986 y e a h is gonna be Uber honest, I can actually see him doing something similar to them plague wise.
//like what he tried/attempted with the icewings 😭
I was under the impression that Sunstreak and Clearsight's dragonets just mixed in with the BeetleWings and 1500 years they split into two distincts species.
Though now I'm laughing myself silly at the idea of just how busy Clearsight must have gotten with what turned out to be multiple BeetleWings to spark an emtire other species.
Good on her. Litterally in this case.
God ita probably a good thing Darkstalker never saw her again. That would be an AWKWARD conversation.
*Darkstalker appears on the continent*
*Finds Clearsight*
Darkstalker: Clearsight I missed you so much, let's go home and rule over the wor- I mean be together again ❤
Clearsight: Oh, Darkstalker, hi.. might have to have a change of plan. KIDS, COME OVER HERE!
*Army of yellow stripey dragons suddenly bursts through the trees*
Dragonettes: Yes, mama?
Darkstalker: 👀
Now that I think of it. Doesn't this technically mean that all hivewings/silkwings inbreds?
@@veronicameldrum1527 hivewings are, silkwings aren't since they're from the beetle wings who didn't breed with Clearsight
@@flamepelt3092 oh okay. thank you :)
@@veronicameldrum1527oof
I totally agree, none of the pantalan tribes are actually bad, it’s just that they haven’t had as much in order to explain or establish them.
Clearsight slept around enough to make an entire tribe… WOW
Please refrain from repeating that.
Clearsight slept around enough to make an entire tribe...WOW
>=)
Probably just trying to fill the void that Darkstalker left 😂😅
Lol it looks like Cricket is screaming at Blue. She’d never do that though :)
Of course not :)
Yeah!
Mmmmmmmmmm
TIME LAP TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
Silk wing biology: 0:35
Hive wing biology: 1:06
Society: 1:50
Religion: 2:56
Naming (silk wings): 3:08
Naming (hive wings): 3:12
History: 3:18
Rating/end: 8:03
tanks
I think the reason they have more advanced technology is that a nightwing’s natural personality is an inventor, but with the nightwing’s on the main continent starving to death and therefore not having their natural personality little advancements where made
While hivewings are half nightwing so they will get the nightwing personality without the starving side affects
wars also hinder invention that doesnt directly benefit the war
I believe that it’s actually more common for Hivewings to not have weapons rather than less common.
I have a feeling that a Venomous Bite would be quite common too because in book 4 it states that Nightwings attack their prey, wait for the venom to kill the animal, and then eat the rotten corpse.
@@janea123 Nightwings have no venom, they have bacteria living in their mouths
@@janea123 bit late to the convo, but that doesn't seem to be the case entirely. Nightwings seem to culture 'rot bite' in the sense of how we use to believe Komodo dragons did. Enough bacteria/viral grow in their saliva that they transfered directly into their preys blood and let them get sick and die. This seems to be supported by Starlight, Deathbringer and Moon not really having the same ability only because they eat fresh kills.
I could be entirely wrong though.
I'm so excited for this someday soon please do a closer look at the leafwings
Tui is so good writing lore that made not only a fantastic continent, but two
Clear sight only had like 2-3 husbands in Pantala (couldn’t remember exactly) she just had a SH- TON of dragonets with them. My head cannon is that she had so many kids because of how strong her future sight was, so because she could already feel the love for them, she would be devastated if she never met them.
Makes sense since she already grieved over the dragonets she never had with Darkstalker. She probably wouldn’t want to feel that way again
That makes alot of sense
Yay! HiveWings are my favorite tribe.
I’m pretty sure HiveWings can technically be named after any invertebrate animal (e.g. Lady Bloodworm), but most are named after insects and other arthropods (with the exception of butterflies and moths, which as you said are reserved for the SilkWings).
Also, loved your passive-aggressive deconstruction of that plot point at 6:14 🤣
I'm not that surprised that wasp didn't die when pineapple melted her face, Queen Scarlet survived getting her face melted by Glory albeit she was permanently scarred
Pineapple is an worthy subject of Queen Glory he was following her Scarlet-makeup
"Pineapple had splashed her face with his venom and SOMEHOW SHE SURVIVED"
So he doesn't think it's possible
Queen scarlet:*glances around nervously*
Vengeance: *starts blinking nervously*
Lol 🤣🤣🤣 20th like
@@banhtec um he lived only to be killed by battlewinner (at least I think so)
@@zay4401 yup, survived but later killed by battlewinner. Correct.
@@ScpDrRisha yep
Yassss! Well I mean theyr'e both descendants of beetle wings so I don't see why not in a same vid! And ur vids r so fun and exiting to watch Charcoal! Keep up the good work! (I mean if u want UWU.) Hehe 3rd comment…
I'm going to make a Silk-Hive hybrid soon
Hahaha, I was also confused about how the flamesilk parachute worked.
I have an OC that's a HiveWing-SilkWing. I just hope you didn't forget the BeetleWing part of their history!
Imagine darkstalker finding out how many dragons clearsight mated with, i mean obviously he will be like: wowee such a bigg family cuz hes know peacemaker, but imagine the old darkstalker finding this out
Nobody's talking about how arc three is about slavery.
And victimizing the abusers
Just now realized that
I think it’s because it’s a touchy subject, but yeah, I don’t think arc 3 handled the slavery all that well, especially when they didn’t really focus on it anyway. I wish it was talked about a bit more.
Cinnabar was described as having black scales, but SilkWings don’t have black scales, so my headcannon is that she is half HiveWing.
I hoped you did a closer look on Nightwings but this is cool too
@@goatinatrenchcoat sorry for the late response! I agree tho nightwings is an interesting tribe!
Coming back to watch the video when I read the rest of the book
Yas! Can’t wait :D
Edit: Just finished the video! It was amazing. Can’t wait for your next one.
Silk wings are one of my favourite types of dragons
Okay, hear me out.
*scarlet and wasp are scar buddies now.*
The funny thing is all of the main villains got venom-spat at some point~ Darkstalker's eye got melted by Kinkajou, but he doesn't have a scar because he made himself invulnerable. So that's one thing all the villains have in common 🤣
Not just that there both evil queens
Me: *confused screaming*
Yeah, both evil queens, both got hit in the face with rainwing venom
I love your vids and I hope your channel grows
7:34
It didn’t kill scarlet… so maybe the same thing happened?
I’m excited for this! Only because I love this channel, and plus I know literally barley anything about those tribes XD
this is going to be the best video ever
It would be cool if Pantala had another species of dragon that was in hiding due to the breath of evil situation. Whether they're another type of sea dragon, or a different type that hid underground for the most part and wasn't seen
"...a dragon Starbucks somewhere in these hives..."
i will never stop thinking that some hivewings have the power to be stinky is the funniest thing ever
Btw, Dusky isn’t an orphan, I believe he has parents but they are briefly mentioned.
I know they found his parents or at least his mother, but for all the government knew at the time he was an orphan
@@CharcoalsDen Also, it was mentioned in book 15 that the rule about one member of the household working was only in Bloodworm Hive. No hate meant by this, love your videos! ☺️
His father died in a construction accident he reunited with his mother in the epiloge of the flames of hope
Sorry I didn’t know, haven’t fully read the 15th book yet @@zay4401
YESS!! So excited!
I am so excited for this!!
This will be good. How can I tell? It was made by wings of charcoal
I love wings of fire and you charcoal make my day I love you charcoal. #wings of charcoal for life
Remember queen scarlet survived rain wing venom so it makes sense that queen wasp did
7:34 same thing happened to queen Scarlett must've been a epic battle
Dragon slayer has the best map ever.
Here be dragons?
Here be dragons.
Here be dragons, probably.
Here be dragons.
Here be underwater dragons.
A note on Wasp's blood: Queen Wasp only had green blood because she'd been ingesting the Breath of Evil plant. While the rest of the tribe had all been injected with it in their eggs, the dosage is too small to permanently change their blood color, though it does affect the hue of the inside of their eggshell.
I love silk wings and hive wings
Thank you for the spoiler warning I just finished the 13 book so I'm glad I had a chance to stop
Looks like that HiveWing are angry RainWings
The poison didn’t kill scarlet so it makes sense that wasp survived.
I love silkwings and hivewings
"because that makes sense" i died laughing
One question I'd like answered: After the rare Flame-stilk awakens from metamorphosis, would it be possible for it to then touch a Fire-scales Skywing like Peril without getting burned?
it was like how scarlet survived glorys attack
I wanna see a hivewing asking for a pink drink now lol
Lil fun fact, coffee was mentioned in book ten, so pyrryia has coffee.
I really hope the next book really expands on silk wing abilities they could have done so much more with there antenna and silk. I also hope thry dont add to many new characters. I think more character development for blue is needed he was really only in the first book of the arc so making allot of return charaters is highly preferred for the next arc but 2-5 new characters wouldnt be bad also hope to see more of them on both continents
When I saw bumble bee I was terrified I thought bumble bee looked cute but instead she looks like a possessed demon…
"There is a dragon Starbucks somewhere in these hives, and I will *NOT* rest *UNTILL* I see it!" Do you not? Or is someone smuggling coffee to you? Maybe that's why your so hyper. Well my OC Hydatid knows where a Dragon Starbucks is, and he will tell no one. Sorry!
dragon starbucks no hivebucks
6/10??? wow I'd think at least an 8/10 bc of all their history and society. Their world seemed more fleshed out than the other dragons
2:56 Lets talk about everyones favorite topic.
(in for some reason cultish sounding monotone voice) * REliGioN *
I'm pretty positive that only BloodWorm Hive had the law that at least 1 silkwing had to have a job
Something I noticed while reading is that Hivewings are just supposed to have paralyzing venom from their stingers, but in book 15, when the Hivewing stabs Moon in the next, it knocks her out, even though it's supposed to just paralyze her. Can someone explain this to me?
This is my theory, in the first arc it is revealed that NightWings bite their prey and let it rot. I think NightWings might be immune to this venom/bacteria because it is in their mouth, and they then eat the prey that was poisoned with it. HiveWings are descended from NightWings, so she might also be immune to this HiveWing venom. (This heavily relies on my Theory that NightWings are immune to their own venom)
Welcome to Coffee Wing! (TM). Here is our menu, we now sell breakfast foods and dessert as well! (the $ symbol after the number is how many scales it costs)
-Star Latte. 10$
-Roast Wildebeef Sandwich. 60$
Fell free to give menu item recommendations because I am lazy :p
Personally hivewings are my fave 10/10,silkwings on the other hand are okay but not my fave 5/10 (rating may change later on though)
R.I.P. NIghtwings
There is a time and place for everything, but not now
Hivewings is my favorite tribe
i agree that. THERE IS a Starbucks on pantala
I need to make a correction.
Moon didnt take a drink that allowed her to communicate with the hivemind, pineapple took a drink that made him get overtaken by the hivemind.
When this video reached 7:31, I had to stop cuz I wanna see what happens in book 15 since I’m up to book 14.
That’s it, time to draw a dragon Starbucks
I don't like either of them because of their eight wings. I'm all for the classic dragon design with four legs and two wings, but I draw the line at four legs and eight wings.
As a side note, Wings of Charcoal made a good point stating that the Pantalan tribes were always doomed to be overshadowed by the Pyrrhian tribes.
Let's face it: The Pyrrhian tribes are more charismatic than the Pantalan ones!
eight wings? did you mean eight limbs?
hivewings and silkwings only have 4 wings
though i do agree the eight limbs throw me off too
No, four wings. SilkWings and HiveWings have four; LeafWings have two.
What the hell clearsight
To be fair about Wasp not dying from Pineapple, Scarlet didn't die from Glory.
Me to!!!
What are the Pantalan winglets?
There are none currently
Who’s cottonmouth?
I like silk wings and hive wings
Do we have any proof that Bumblebee is an orphan? Or did Cricket kidnap a random egg/dragonet? In hopes to save it?
Idk if it proof but there was Orphan written on the egg
Yeah each egg had where it was supposed to go written on it. Bumblebee’s said “orphanage”
Casually just says Luna's boyfriend LOL
Why haven’t you done a Nightwing one yet? 😢
There’s a time and place for everything, but not now
D-D- The darkstalker
Pineapple scarlet survived
Man why are ther everywhere book 15 spoilers.
You were warned
The discord link is invalid?
I archived that server, a link to the new one is in my About page
I still dont get how silk wings are not powerful like- they should still be beetle wings where the hive wings branched of from them- AHFJSBHSFDSJFJSDNkajkjsd
do you know jade mountain archive? you kinda sound like him lol
Yep I'm aware
@@CharcoalsDen you two should do a collab
@@CharcoalsDen Same :P For real though - I've been thinking about setting up a collab with some of the big WoF analysis youtubers. Would you be interested?
Sure, why not? If you have Discord you can reach me at WingsOfCharcoal#5865
@@JadeMountainArchive that is gonna be the best collab ever
Clearsight certainly made up for lost opportunities to have kids. I don't blame her. After getting away from a toxic relationship with a lunatic that happily committed patricide, I'd say she deserved a life of bliss. To put it another way, she earned a life of Heaven since she spent so much time in Hell.
Didn't kill Scarlet so Wasp survived
Pov: You didn't watch the stream
hello
Uhhh aren't the hivewings related like the ENTIRE tribe
NO I WANNA WATCH BUT I HAVENT FINISHED BOOK 15 oh well ILL FORGET
Why do peoplehave to make weird comments, like, how hard is it jot to be inappropriate?
I don’t know 100% but I think you pronounce Pyrria as F - ear- ia
Or it might just be how I spell it…(Phyrria, although it looks and sounds better lol)
Dragon Starbucks lol
Bees and butterflies are not beetles
Considering that almost every butterfly species has black on them somewhere, and that silkwings are based on butterflies, the fact that silkwings cant be black seems pretty unrealistic to me. I know this is a fantasy world, but im pretty sure silkwings should be black. Wait a minute; you said their SCALES cant be black. That doesnt mean their wings cant be black.
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I hate wasp. Go sequoia!