With DR boost, Panasonic said that the raw file is a 16bit container and this is stunning as a M43 camera (all others were 12bit except the GH5S which is 14bit)
Gh6 combined with 42.5mm f1.2 is amazing portraits camera. I wanted to buy few days ago but i went with R5. But I think gh6 very commpact with 35mm-100mm f2.8 and 42,5mm f1.2
Not mainly for photos, but for photos too. I´m glad with the results so far (first week with the GH6). Camera is definately superior to my G9 and GX9 (but yes, you have to spend some money). 25MPx with a bit better noise handling are much appreciated and the high-res is really good. Were able to shoot wildlife (also birds and deer needs to sit still) with 500mm (Olympus 150-400 Pro, TC 1.25) handheld high res with some really good results. Never expected that this is possible.
It would be a huge mistake if Panny failed to follow-up the video-centric GH6 with a photo-centric G9 replacement. The GH6 is obviously a great camera, but no battery grip provision and a lack of certain other features available on the G9 (plus extraneous video-centric features photographers don't need along with the extra bulk and complexity of the cooling system) means a lot of us will continue to use the G9 for now (and even consider the OM-1). BtW, the GH6 can go as low as 50 ISO (the G9 can go down to 100 extended--it can also shoot at 1/32,000). Also, for every supposed advantage of "FF" (we called 135 "small format" in the film days), MFT has even greater advantages. There simply is no significant IQ edge to larger-format sensors that can be detected in any print viewed at an appropriate distance.
@@PaulAntonescu Sensor size is but one element affecting DoF and I can easily get whatever DoF I want with MFT (and even smaller sensors) by adjusting FL, f-stop (I have f/0.95 but rarely use it), or distance to subject. It's also easy to achieve that look in post in those rare cases when I want it, plus super-shallow DoF is often way overdone--to farcical levels in some cases. More importantly, except for relatively few situations, there is a distinct advantage in having deeper DoF, not shallower. Ansel, et al, formed Group f/64 because they valued having everything in focus, and IMO, for most photography, that's still the better way to go.
Hi Richard. Thank you for your videos! For hobbyist Nature photography I don't see any improvement from my G9 to the GH6 photos for online publishing and small prints. In fact I actually get better photos in that respect with my G9 than anything I've seen from GH6 reviews. I am having fun experimenting with video, but not there yet to buy a new camera for thousands of dollars for a little bit extra quality. Enjoying the upgrade to G9's auto focus with peaking helping me move away from having to use manual for everything I shoot.
That's how I do it, I'm waiting for the G9 successor. My money is ready, Panasonic just has to take it! I don't know what Panasonic is waiting for, the development work is already done, without the special film features and the cooling pack everything into a modernized body of the G9 and I press the order button!
After using my GH6 for about 2 weeks, I find the video dynamic range a big step up from previous Panasonic MFT cameras with bright shadows and more retained detail in highlights. I like the extra detail and improved color, especially skin tones which no longer have the reddish tint. Even the auto focus is quite improved and I no longer have seen the background pulsing. Its not perfect but it seems useable. However, I am not sure what Panasonic did, but the photo dynamic range is quite poor and seems mostly unusable to me for photography. Panasonic have said the Dynamic Range Boost doesn't work the same for video as it does for photography and when taking photos, it is automatic and can't be turned on or off. They also don't tell you which ISOs it is on and which it is off unlike in video mode which is 800 for all profiles except V-Log and 2000 for V-Log when set to on. In video when its on, using V-log ISO 2000 is the minimum and the noise is comparable to a much lower ISO when properly exposed and cleans up well in editing. In Photography at lower ISOs the noise seems a bit worse. Testing it side by side with my GH5, the low ISO dynamic range is bad with crushed shadows easily, especially in contrasty scenes. I found at ISO 800 (the native ISO for video) the dynamic range is the lowest good ISO for useable dynamic range, but you get noisy shadows and even then, it falls behind the GH5, GH5 MK2 and G9 as they have better dynamic range, especially the GH5 MK2. I initially liked the inclusion of hi resolution mode, but with the poor dynamic range, its not worth it. I am glad I kept my GH5 when I upgraded so I can use that for photography and use the GH6 when I am taking videos.
@@aiseurnae5976 With the RAW photos, I don't really know, but in video it seems that ProRes files have slightly less noise reduction and a bit more detail compared to the other video codecs in the camera.
I ended up going with an OM1 , as my main interest for this purchase was possible sporting use and compact size. However, there would definitely be times - landscapes etc - where I'd appreciate the extra resolution and lower base iso of the GH6 so it's not impossible that I end up running both at some point. Either body is cheaper than changing systems with new lenses etc, so I'm happy to see how they go before deciding whether to shift to a Z series camera.
Thanks for the commentary. So many people talk about the video modes and skim over the 📸 mode. I'm not going g to buy one (at the moment) but we'll see what the futures holds.
Quite interesting. Nevertheless, I think I'll wait for a G9 successor and hope that that one gets even better dynamic range. Clipping highlights are biggest concern with MFT and am used to underexpose more than I would like to.
The change in megapixels from the GH5 to the GH6 is basically insignificant. A 20 x 30" print from the GH5 becomes a 22.3 x 33.4" print from the GH6. Please let me know which client will ever notice that difference? The real benefit of the increased mp in the GH6 seems to be with open gate where the vertical size allows 4K-DCI in the vertical crop.
Love how detailed your videos are! If you still have the GH6, maybe you can help clear up some of the confusion around the dynamic range of the GH6 at low ISO values, like ISO 100 or 200. Many are reporting that the dynamic range is LESS than the GH5. This would be bad for anyone shooting landscapes. What are you finding?
Removing 4K/6K Photo was a mistake. While video focussed, most of us use our cameras as hybrid shooters, and I take a lot more photographs than video clips. I love 4K/6K photo, and hope that if we ask for it enough it can be implemented via buttons on the monitor.
I am a Nikon z shooter, i am really considering going a gh6 route over the z9 because of its size and flexability. I really like my z7 and z50, but i think the m43 would give me a different perspective as it's not like any other camera
Hey Barry, the m43 definitely is quite a good system to go with the full frame cameras. Different pros and cons and that's why I use both formats side by side for quite a long time.
How is the GH6 C-AF in low light for example at a wedding when people are dancing. When I was shooting weddings with my Olympus OMD E-M5 I was shooting S-AF and stopping not to f7.1 with my Olympus 12-40mm f2.8. When I got my Olympus OMD E-M1ii the C-AF is really good in low light and I stop down to f4 and sometimes even open up to f2.8 and the camera can stay in focus with phase detection a lot better then just uses contrast detection in low light.
If you primarily shoot landscapes, real estate/architecture or product photography, the hi res mode is as good a promised. I'm really impressed. But if you shoot wildlife or street, you'll be happier with the OM-1.
Hello, I am a user who changed from full frame Sony m4 to g6 after watching your video. I bought it to do it with photos and videos, and I'm currently watching this video very well. I'm looking forward to 100 million pixel functions. I'm thinking of adding 10-25,25-50,50-200 to give it a good quality 12-60,45-200.
I highly recommend 10-25. It's my beloved lense. I've got 50-200, 12-60 and Olympus 60 macro as my work horses as well. Looking forward to get 25-50 as soon as possible to replace this focal length gap with the better light.
Great nice comparison! Soon I will have to buy a new camera and I am very undecided between the GH6 and the new OM1, do you plan a comparison between these 2 models? Thank you very much.
You do wonderful videos and I appreciate your content. However I was hoping for less stats and features, and a bit more practical answer to the simple question of how does using this camera for photography, compare to other cameras that are designed more specifically for photography? For example, how does the new sensor compare to full frame photographs?
If you're more photo-centric, the OM-1 makes a lot more sense due to the phase-detect autofocus and AI deep learning. The stacked sensor also improves performance at higher ISOs. Plus, it still takes excellent video, albeit not at GH6 levels. Sure, the GH6 has a few more megapixels, but I don't know if that will make much of a difference. They probably did that more so the camera could take 5.7K video.
Daniel, the OM1 definitely looks like an awesome photo camera! I really want to get my hands on one and try it out. Unfortunately there is no more Olympus here and i don't know of anyone here bought one so ... :( But i do feel the GH6 offers some advantages over OM-1 or any other micro four thirds cameras in the market for photographers, so it really depends on what is most important to you when making the decision :)
Lol. It is not a few megapixels. GH6 shoots 4:2:2 10 bit with Apple Prores. That is a huge difference compared to an H.264 or HVEC. HVEC is really Iphone quality in terms of dynamic range and cannot even be compared to what 422 HQ offers in post. And anamorphic support on top of everything is just insane for that price tag.
I thought it and you said it in this video. I do find the jpg to be much improved. I don't know about raw photos because I don't have a program that works with them yet. My Adobe Light Room will not open them.
I'm very curious to see the High Resolution Mode with the shift adapter with a nikon lens for Architecture Photography! I use the adapter with the small GX80, but with the hi res will be cool.
Unfortunately it's the same for all new cameras, it takes 1-3 months to get the official raw support. Especially when it has a complete new sensor like the gh6.. but I think support from adobe...etc shouldn't be too far away now.
Hello Richard, just found your channel and subscribed already. Great job! Thank you for the informative video. I've got the GH52 already and my GH6 has arrived a few days ago. I am impressed as far, but definitely it does need more time to explore the new body. I'm gonna use the GH52 as a backup and the extra camera that I need in some video projects. Application: mainly for videos and still photography is my secondary activity.
Has anyone seen the DPReview where they exposed to the right at low ISO and then brought up the details in lowlights and the noise was terrible? I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else so perhaps they just had a duff model? I trust both DPReview (my go-to for camera reviews for nearly 20 years) and also Richard Wong (great end user analysis) - I'd be interested to see if the same scenario can be reproduced to see if the issue is replicated.
Hey Dan, i haven't seen DPReview's latest video yet. But I've added it to my watch list so will watch it when i have some spare time. (always love watching their videos!) I do not have a GH5 with me at the moment but when i get hold of one I would like to do some comparison as well and see if i can reproduce what you've mentioned, and maybe some other tests that I didn't get around to do yet.
@@TheRealRichardWong Brilliant stuff thanks. it's a great video, I was so disappointed when I saw the base ISO shadow noise (ISO 100). People often obsess over high ISO, but low ISO noise is a bigger issue. I've just rewatched their video and they had the same results in their other lab using the colour charts so seems like it isn't specific to the unit they were using for the video. This is a big disappointment and I'm hoping it can be fixed with a firmware update, with this being such a new camera I'm expecting a few Firmware updates to tweak a few things.
As a wildlife photographer I'm waiting for the G9 successor but I'm getting impatient. I'll give Panasonic a few more months to announce something or I'll probably change to Canon R7.
I got tired of waiting for the G9 upgrade and just bought the GH6. Will use mostly for photography, but also video. It is on sale now (11-21-22) at a 500 discount! I just could not resist!
There are two Focus Limiter short cut you can assign the Fn key to, One is to enable/disable Focus Limiter, one is to set the range. They are both available under Fn2 -> 1 -> First AF menu
Well. I don't see any other 100 MP ProRes Internal with the industry best IBIS that looks like a machine out there for under 4k or 1.5k. But for some reason people keep taking digs at the GH6, instead of just going over and just buy the Sony FX6 or Canon C70, nope, all over the internet they complain about the AF, which really works well, except in a few well known circumstances... The 100MP ability tipped the scales for me, I'm primarily a photographer.
This review makes me think, I recently have become interested in astro photography. The GH6 looks tempting, as I am a long time Panasonic micro 4/3 fan is this a good buy ? I don't care about videos too much but they are nice as an addition to stills.
hi Richard, great video as usual! What about noise at low iso? I have both m4/3 and FF Lumix cameras and there's quite a difference between my S5 and G9 at low iso as well. The files produced by the S5 are cleaner, without any doubt, while the G9 is more grainy (it's particularly visible on blue skies). I wonder if the new GH6 sensor, with base iso at 100 is cleaner than the old G9 sensor, being closer to the S5. I don't care so much about high iso, since 99% of the pictures I take are at lower iso ;)
The new sensor of the GH6 comes close to the performance of an aps-c sensor and certainly not to that of the great S5 camera, I do not know its needs but I believe that the video performance of the S5 is more than excellent.
In recent YT video, former Lumix Ambassador Matti Sulanto did preliminary review & was without a Raw converter but noted GH6 JPGs looked better than S5 SOC, presumably due to new sensor & Venus Engine.
It definitely is better than the g9, especially jpg. For raw, I do really want to wait for adobe support to draw more conclusion but from what I have seen using silkypix as raw converter it is improved too
I was waiting for Adobe Raw support before replying, and I can now say with confidence that both RAW and JPG are superior on the GH6 vs my G9. I still love the G9, but the hi res mode on the GH6 is now my go-to for landscapes.
I use gh5 and em1 m2. I want to upgrade ti new m4/3 sensor to the best ibrid camera. Gh6 is fenomenal video camera. For photo I think om1 is better like old gh5 and em1. But gh6 probably is the best ibrid..
Kia Ora Richatd. May I ask how GH6 works with Olympus lenses. I have 40-150 f2.8, 7-14 g2.8, 25 f1.2. I know manual exposure clutch would not work, but how how about everything else? I heard there is am opinion that it is better to stick to native lenses. Thanks. Andrew
Kia Ora Andrew! I haven't tested too many Olympus lenses with the gh6 to be honest, but when I test it with the Olympus 60mm macro it works quite well, even continuous autofocus in video mode works pretty ok! But yes special features like clutch won't work.
Richard, I wanted to ask an important question to you. I was asking my online friend Steven Litton who has a GH6/Lumix channel. We were talking about extracting still photos from 4K video. I shoot often wildlife from my raft on the river. It's very unstable. The waves/wind and the boat is rocking and it's awkward to hold the camera steady while siting. When I shoot video there are always many frames that are in focus intermittently that are good. I rely heavily on grabbing stills from video. I told Steve I would ask you. He is also a fan of your channel. So the question is this. Do you have an opinion on what is my best video mode to use when thinking to extract many still frames. Now I'm using 4K 60P. I am wondering, would I be better shooting 5.8 K 60P or maybe even 4K 120????? Also would it be a better grab if I shot in 800mbps in 4K as opposed to 600. Does it matter what I use. Can I improve my video still frame grabs by using different settings. Please let me know.
Hi again Richard. I decided to watch this video again. I watched it when it came out. I see in this video you touch on the still image grab. So 120P was an example you used. I have used the internal GH6 still frame grab feature. Do you think it is better to use this feature instead of grabbing a still in adobe premiere? I think it's probably better to grab in camera. If you have any more thoughts on the matter, please let me know. Do you think 120 is better than 60P. I think that auto focus works better at higher frame rates and shutter speeds.
Richard, Sorry for so many questions but I wanted to ask one more thing. I shoot in Vlog video. If I use the internal still grab on GH6 will it be in vlog or does it give it a color profile? Is there a choice?
re frame rate, 30/60/120. i think it really depends on how fast things happen. Is there a chance shooting a 60 or 120 would give you the better "moment" than shooting at 30? if not, i would shoot in 30p to save some memory card space. That is assuming you don't need the high speed video for slow motion playback anyway. In general DFD autofocus works faster when shooting in high frame rate, but if you don't care too much about the focus transition smoothness and just want to grab a short video clip/screengrab, you can increase the AF sensitivity and speed to get faster autofocus performance (but downside is AF transition won't be quite as smooth and AF is a bit more unstable) Re 5.8k vs 4k, to me, the biggest difference is the aspect ratio, 5.8k is 3:2 an 4k is 16:9. What is the output aspect ratio you want for your photo? If you are not sure, i would choose 5.8k as you have more option to crop during editing. For the codec, i would shoot in All-I for sure, but 800mbps vs 600mbps i think if you can do 800mbps then go for that to get you best quality I also suggest you pay attention to the shutter speed/aperture as those settings would probably impact how the image look greatly If you shoot in VLOG, i would import the video to your video editing software and then do the colour grading from your 10bit video and screen grab there as that would give you a lot more flexibility in terms of colour grading /editing hope that helps
Richard I turn to you for the truth. Many major channels are claiming the GH6 shoots 4K 10 bit 422 at 120FPS. Mine does not. Do yours. Why would major reviewers say such things. Is it true.?
hi SUTV, I'm pretty sure the GH6 can't do 4k 120 at 10bit 422. It is 420 10bit at 4k 120fps (still really good). Which channel claims it can? maybe they made a mistake as there are so many specs it's really easy to make a mistake
@@TheRealRichardWong Well you are a nice person to think that it's a simple mistake because that is a very gigantic spec. It surely doe not shoot 10 bit 422 4k in 120 FPS. I get mad because many of the major channels who really know their stuff say it. If you watch PRO Av TV they say it loud and clear and put it in bold type on the screen. I realize 420 10 bit if fine but why so many BS about it. I'm a rookie and know very well the camera cannot do that. Anyhow. Thank You Richard.
Hi SUTV, I do genuinely think some channel may have just made a mistake. For each of my video, I always double or triple check my scripts and test results before I film .. then after edited everything together I usually re watch a few times to pick up any errors. And I can honestly tell you there are still quite a lot of errors in my videos. And I absolutely hate it as once you have published something, RUclips doesn't allow you to edit your errors unless you delete the video completely which is something we really avoid to do. But yeah check a few sources esp if you notice something that is not consistent between different review channels, I really made mistakes too so I won't ask you to just trust whatever I said :)
if you want flexibility, i would suggest just shoot in RAW and in that case, the profile doesn't matter much (just don't use VLOG). Otherwise if you only want shoot in JPG, i would choose something that has a lower contrast like FLAT.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the prompt response Richard! I’ve been producing video for a long time and only recently started doing event stills and I’ve been shooting RAW with a slightly adapted Natural profile. Good to know that I have the dynamic range needed for stills post production in basically any profile (except vlog.) Thanks again!
Sorry i can't answer this question as it's really subjective. usually the larger the print means we would view it from a further distance so you can say you could print it as large as you want.
Yeah the af is fast, but for video the pulsing still is bad. They really need to go to pdaf like oly has... I do want to use mine to try some sports for the longer lenses I have over my canon R5.
I hope that a successor to the G9 comes out with all this, but the OM1 sensor that is better than this one. Give it enhanced video, no cooling, 5,7 MP 0.83 EVF, better backscreen, surely HH Highres and OM1 speed in shooting AND OSPDAF...I'll buy it for 2000 euro.
"Panasonic Lumix GH6 which would benefit photographers Camera gear used to film this video" Come on Richard. We don't film with video we VIDEO with video, we film with film. Your work is great! Your understanding of the difference is lost in translation. Using the word film to describe digital video robs everyone of understanding and learning the difference. This video was shot, recorded, videoed. NOT filmed. There is a film crew right now, filming, with film. Not to be compared with the gear used for VIDEO. You are talented and smart. Keep up the good work, don't let the misinformed masses sway you into using language that is incorrect.
Er... as someone who has worked in the film industry for two decades and personally experienced the shift from celluloid to video, I can tell you that the word "film" has been used for video motion picture production ever since video was first introduced into the industry. Words change meaning over time, in case you haven't noticed.
@@BurfieldPhoto1 Er... as someone that has worked in the film and television industry for 40 years. I have worked on sit-coms, I am a certified Avid Editor, worked with CMX non-linear editor, television news, movie production, music videos and have edited numerous book on the history of motion picture and television history. The word film has only been used to describe FILM and the evolution of calling VIDEO film started when the smartphone showed up. We never described video production as filming. When every amature ended up with a video camera in their hand (smartphone) the general consumer started using a word they were familiar with since video tape was no longer necessary. We went from filming to taping to solid state drive. At that point there was to languistic markers to describe the process and the general population defaulted to film. The professional knew better. Saying, "the word "film" has been used for video motion picture production ever since video was first introduced into the industry." Is total nonsence. Clearly you understanding of the history of the technology is limited. It's sad. It shows lack of pride in the craft and understanding of the technology we use. And, dumbs down the individual and those that want to learn.✌
@@Rocketryman there's a lot I could say about my own experiences on set and the filmmakers I've worked with in reply, but I'm just going to make this point to illustrate to everyone how farcical your assertions are. ARRI use "film" and "filmmaking" in reference to their Alexas. I'm pretty damn sure their understanding of the history of the technology is better than yours.
@@BurfieldPhoto1 pretty sad that the only answer you have is what they say. Sadly ARRI is at a loss as well. Yes even ARRI can be wrong. If you made a tiny effort to understand. And clearly your own experiences don't mean much since you don't know the difference. But hey ARRI says so. Really sad how little you appreciate or understand the craft. Filmmakers use film. We are videographers. Be proud not a follower.
There were some tests that show the GH6's dynamic range is lower than GH5 for low ISO settings. It is possible it is the trade off of the new higher sensor which has some improvements in other areas.
Doesn`t make sense to compare any product to another one that is 3 or more years older! Why not compare to a LEADING product in the same range? Yes I know - always in the same manufacturer so the winner ist always... the manufacturer.
Has anyone bought a GH6 mainly for photos? Or planning to do that? What is the most attractive feature or improvement to you?
With DR boost, Panasonic said that the raw file is a 16bit container and this is stunning as a M43 camera (all others were 12bit except the GH5S which is 14bit)
yes I watched Sean's livestream too
Gh6 combined with 42.5mm f1.2 is amazing portraits camera. I wanted to buy few days ago but i went with R5. But I think gh6 very commpact with 35mm-100mm f2.8 and 42,5mm f1.2
I plan to wait for a G9-2 with fewer video bells but those missing features (and cheaper and smaller)
@@Alex-mc4fh awful? i have sony, olympus and pana, and it is not as great, but i would not call it awful.
Not mainly for photos, but for photos too. I´m glad with the results so far (first week with the GH6). Camera is definately superior to my G9 and GX9 (but yes, you have to spend some money). 25MPx with a bit better noise handling are much appreciated and the high-res is really good. Were able to shoot wildlife (also birds and deer needs to sit still) with 500mm (Olympus 150-400 Pro, TC 1.25) handheld high res with some really good results. Never expected that this is possible.
I just wish the burst shooting on the GH6 would’ve been like 20 fps with continuous AF and exposure.
Wow really? Handheld high res at 500mm? That's impressive
It would be a huge mistake if Panny failed to follow-up the video-centric GH6 with a photo-centric G9 replacement. The GH6 is obviously a great camera, but no battery grip provision and a lack of certain other features available on the G9 (plus extraneous video-centric features photographers don't need along with the extra bulk and complexity of the cooling system) means a lot of us will continue to use the G9 for now (and even consider the OM-1). BtW, the GH6 can go as low as 50 ISO (the G9 can go down to 100 extended--it can also shoot at 1/32,000). Also, for every supposed advantage of "FF" (we called 135 "small format" in the film days), MFT has even greater advantages. There simply is no significant IQ edge to larger-format sensors that can be detected in any print viewed at an appropriate distance.
The depth of field is so different on a FF
@@PaulAntonescu Sensor size is but one element affecting DoF and I can easily get whatever DoF I want with MFT (and even smaller sensors) by adjusting FL, f-stop (I have f/0.95 but rarely use it), or distance to subject. It's also easy to achieve that look in post in those rare cases when I want it, plus super-shallow DoF is often way overdone--to farcical levels in some cases. More importantly, except for relatively few situations, there is a distinct advantage in having deeper DoF, not shallower. Ansel, et al, formed Group f/64 because they valued having everything in focus, and IMO, for most photography, that's still the better way to go.
Hi Richard. Thank you for your videos! For hobbyist Nature photography I don't see any improvement from my G9 to the GH6 photos for online publishing and small prints. In fact I actually get better photos in that respect with my G9 than anything I've seen from GH6 reviews. I am having fun experimenting with video, but not there yet to buy a new camera for thousands of dollars for a little bit extra quality. Enjoying the upgrade to G9's auto focus with peaking helping me move away from having to use manual for everything I shoot.
Looks great but I'll wait to see if there's a g9 successor. Thanks for your excellent videos Richard.
Thanks for watching. I am also curious what is the next camera from Panasonic that uses this sensor.
That's how I do it, I'm waiting for the G9 successor. My money is ready, Panasonic just has to take it!
I don't know what Panasonic is waiting for, the development work is already done, without the special film features and the cooling pack everything into a modernized body of the G9 and I press the order button!
S5 all the way for stills, there are some good deals with 20-60 and 50mm "kits" from time to time.as well.
After using my GH6 for about 2 weeks, I find the video dynamic range a big step up from previous Panasonic MFT cameras with bright shadows and more retained detail in highlights. I like the extra detail and improved color, especially skin tones which no longer have the reddish tint. Even the auto focus is quite improved and I no longer have seen the background pulsing. Its not perfect but it seems useable. However, I am not sure what Panasonic did, but the photo dynamic range is quite poor and seems mostly unusable to me for photography.
Panasonic have said the Dynamic Range Boost doesn't work the same for video as it does for photography and when taking photos, it is automatic and can't be turned on or off. They also don't tell you which ISOs it is on and which it is off unlike in video mode which is 800 for all profiles except V-Log and 2000 for V-Log when set to on.
In video when its on, using V-log ISO 2000 is the minimum and the noise is comparable to a much lower ISO when properly exposed and cleans up well in editing. In Photography at lower ISOs the noise seems a bit worse.
Testing it side by side with my GH5, the low ISO dynamic range is bad with crushed shadows easily, especially in contrasty scenes. I found at ISO 800 (the native ISO for video) the dynamic range is the lowest good ISO for useable dynamic range, but you get noisy shadows and even then, it falls behind the GH5, GH5 MK2 and G9 as they have better dynamic range, especially the GH5 MK2. I initially liked the inclusion of hi resolution mode, but with the poor dynamic range, its not worth it. I am glad I kept my GH5 when I upgraded so I can use that for photography and use the GH6 when I am taking videos.
Thank you for this comment, I read the GH6 has some noise reduction applied to raw files as well, is it true ?
@@aiseurnae5976 With the RAW photos, I don't really know, but in video it seems that ProRes files have slightly less noise reduction and a bit more detail compared to the other video codecs in the camera.
@@DynamixWarePro Thanks, will try ProRes
I ended up going with an OM1 , as my main interest for this purchase was possible sporting use and compact size. However, there would definitely be times - landscapes etc - where I'd appreciate the extra resolution and lower base iso of the GH6 so it's not impossible that I end up running both at some point. Either body is cheaper than changing systems with new lenses etc, so I'm happy to see how they go before deciding whether to shift to a Z series camera.
Yeah the OM1 and GH6 has their own both pros and cons! Enjoy your OM1
OM1 has high rez shooting too, and base iso of GH6 is actually 800.
Thanks for the commentary. So many people talk about the video modes and skim over the 📸 mode. I'm not going g to buy one (at the moment) but we'll see what the futures holds.
Thanks Jesse!
Quite interesting. Nevertheless, I think I'll wait for a G9 successor and hope that that one gets even better dynamic range. Clipping highlights are biggest concern with MFT and am used to underexpose more than I would like to.
Maybe the dynamic range boost compensates it
The change in megapixels from the GH5 to the GH6 is basically insignificant. A 20 x 30" print from the GH5 becomes a 22.3 x 33.4" print from the GH6. Please let me know which client will ever notice that difference?
The real benefit of the increased mp in the GH6 seems to be with open gate where the vertical size allows 4K-DCI in the vertical crop.
Love how detailed your videos are! If you still have the GH6, maybe you can help clear up some of the confusion around the dynamic range of the GH6 at low ISO values, like ISO 100 or 200. Many are reporting that the dynamic range is LESS than the GH5. This would be bad for anyone shooting landscapes. What are you finding?
hey Alan, I don't have a GH5 with me at the moment so need to borrow one and do some more testing with the GH6 to check the dynamic range.
Removing 4K/6K Photo was a mistake. While video focussed, most of us use our cameras as hybrid shooters, and I take a lot more photographs than video clips. I love 4K/6K photo, and hope that if we ask for it enough it can be implemented via buttons on the monitor.
Yes keep asking and we may see it!!
I am a Nikon z shooter, i am really considering going a gh6 route over the z9 because of its size and flexability. I really like my z7 and z50, but i think the m43 would give me a different perspective as it's not like any other camera
Hey Barry, the m43 definitely is quite a good system to go with the full frame cameras. Different pros and cons and that's why I use both formats side by side for quite a long time.
I use both. they each have their benes.
Hopefully they will upgrade the G9 for photography centered users.
How is the GH6 C-AF in low light for example at a wedding when people are dancing.
When I was shooting weddings with my Olympus OMD E-M5 I was shooting S-AF and stopping not to f7.1 with my Olympus 12-40mm f2.8. When I got my Olympus OMD E-M1ii the C-AF is really good in low light and I stop down to f4 and sometimes even open up to f2.8 and the camera can stay in focus with phase detection a lot better then just uses contrast detection in low light.
I’ve been waiting for a video like this I’m a photographer who shoots on a g9 and don’t want to go full frame
If you primarily shoot landscapes, real estate/architecture or product photography, the hi res mode is as good a promised. I'm really impressed. But if you shoot wildlife or street, you'll be happier with the OM-1.
Hello, I am a user who changed from full frame Sony m4 to g6 after watching your video.
I bought it to do it with photos and videos, and I'm currently watching this video very well.
I'm looking forward to 100 million pixel functions.
I'm thinking of adding 10-25,25-50,50-200 to give it a good quality 12-60,45-200.
Those 3 are really great lenses!! I would love to buy a 10-25 myself
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I highly recommend 10-25. It's my beloved lense. I've got 50-200, 12-60 and Olympus 60 macro as my work horses as well. Looking forward to get 25-50 as soon as possible to replace this focal length gap with the better light.
Great nice comparison!
Soon I will have to buy a new camera and I am very undecided between the GH6 and the new OM1, do you plan a comparison between these 2 models? Thank you very much.
Hey Paolo, i would love to compare it with the OM1, unfortunately there is no more Olympus here in NZ so i don't have contacts with Olympus anymore
You do wonderful videos and I appreciate your content. However I was hoping for less stats and features, and a bit more practical answer to the simple question of how does using this camera for photography, compare to other cameras that are designed more specifically for photography? For example, how does the new sensor compare to full frame photographs?
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions Lance
If you're more photo-centric, the OM-1 makes a lot more sense due to the phase-detect autofocus and AI deep learning. The stacked sensor also improves performance at higher ISOs.
Plus, it still takes excellent video, albeit not at GH6 levels. Sure, the GH6 has a few more megapixels, but I don't know if that will make much of a difference. They probably did that more so the camera could take 5.7K video.
Daniel, the OM1 definitely looks like an awesome photo camera! I really want to get my hands on one and try it out. Unfortunately there is no more Olympus here and i don't know of anyone here bought one so ... :(
But i do feel the GH6 offers some advantages over OM-1 or any other micro four thirds cameras in the market for photographers, so it really depends on what is most important to you when making the decision :)
Lol. It is not a few megapixels. GH6 shoots 4:2:2 10 bit with Apple Prores. That is a huge difference compared to an H.264 or HVEC. HVEC is really Iphone quality in terms of dynamic range and cannot even be compared to what 422 HQ offers in post. And anamorphic support on top of everything is just insane for that price tag.
I thought it and you said it in this video. I do find the jpg to be much improved. I don't know about raw photos because I don't have a program that works with them yet. My Adobe Light Room will not open them.
Adobe support should come quite soon!
I'm very curious to see the High Resolution Mode with the shift adapter with a nikon lens for Architecture Photography! I use the adapter with the small GX80, but with the hi res will be cool.
That should work i suppose? Unforuntately i don't have any shift adaptor to test/verify this for you.
Good video, some great content for the photography modes
Glad you like the video :)
Takes great pictures. But the raw files are barely supported by many softwares currently
Unfortunately it's the same for all new cameras, it takes 1-3 months to get the official raw support. Especially when it has a complete new sensor like the gh6.. but I think support from adobe...etc shouldn't be too far away now.
Happy to report Adobe Raw now supports the RW2 files from the GH6.
I like 4K/6K Photo mode on my GH5 so I will wait for G9 mkii (i hope it will have that mode)
Hello Richard, just found your channel and subscribed already. Great job! Thank you for the informative video.
I've got the GH52 already and my GH6 has arrived a few days ago. I am impressed as far, but definitely it does need more time to explore the new body. I'm gonna use the GH52 as a backup and the extra camera that I need in some video projects. Application: mainly for videos and still photography is my secondary activity.
Thank you so much! If you mainly shooting video and a bit of photo, i think the GH6 is great!
Has anyone seen the DPReview where they exposed to the right at low ISO and then brought up the details in lowlights and the noise was terrible? I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else so perhaps they just had a duff model? I trust both DPReview (my go-to for camera reviews for nearly 20 years) and also Richard Wong (great end user analysis) - I'd be interested to see if the same scenario can be reproduced to see if the issue is replicated.
Hey Dan, i haven't seen DPReview's latest video yet. But I've added it to my watch list so will watch it when i have some spare time. (always love watching their videos!)
I do not have a GH5 with me at the moment but when i get hold of one I would like to do some comparison as well and see if i can reproduce what you've mentioned, and maybe some other tests that I didn't get around to do yet.
@@TheRealRichardWong Brilliant stuff thanks. it's a great video, I was so disappointed when I saw the base ISO shadow noise (ISO 100). People often obsess over high ISO, but low ISO noise is a bigger issue. I've just rewatched their video and they had the same results in their other lab using the colour charts so seems like it isn't specific to the unit they were using for the video. This is a big disappointment and I'm hoping it can be fixed with a firmware update, with this being such a new camera I'm expecting a few Firmware updates to tweak a few things.
As a wildlife photographer I'm waiting for the G9 successor but I'm getting impatient. I'll give Panasonic a few more months to announce something or I'll probably change to Canon R7.
I got tired of waiting for the G9 upgrade and just bought the GH6. Will use mostly for photography, but also video. It is on sale now (11-21-22) at a 500 discount! I just could not resist!
Richard - you mentioned setting up Function buttons for near and distant focus - would you mind posting a link as to how to do this? Tony
There are two Focus Limiter short cut you can assign the Fn key to, One is to enable/disable Focus Limiter, one is to set the range.
They are both available under Fn2 -> 1 -> First AF menu
Thanks for the vid! I'm curious how much effect the DR boost has on stills output. And does it work with flash?
hey Kevin, It should work with flash? as the camera is still just taknig a single exposure.
Well. I don't see any other 100 MP ProRes Internal with the industry best IBIS that looks like a machine out there for under 4k or 1.5k. But for some reason people keep taking digs at the GH6, instead of just going over and just buy the Sony FX6 or Canon C70, nope, all over the internet they complain about the AF, which really works well, except in a few well known circumstances... The 100MP ability tipped the scales for me, I'm primarily a photographer.
This review makes me think, I recently have become interested in astro photography. The GH6 looks tempting, as I am a long time Panasonic micro 4/3 fan is this a good buy ? I don't care about videos too much but they are nice as an addition to stills.
For astro the gh6 should be great as it has better high iso than the previous 20mp and 16mp sensor micro 43 cameras.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks Richard, now I am saving my pennies for a GH6.
The GH6 is great for stills. The only downside is the size.
hi Richard, great video as usual! What about noise at low iso? I have both m4/3 and FF Lumix cameras and there's quite a difference between my S5 and G9 at low iso as well. The files produced by the S5 are cleaner, without any doubt, while the G9 is more grainy (it's particularly visible on blue skies). I wonder if the new GH6 sensor, with base iso at 100 is cleaner than the old G9 sensor, being closer to the S5. I don't care so much about high iso, since 99% of the pictures I take are at lower iso ;)
The new sensor of the GH6 comes close to the performance of an aps-c sensor and certainly not to that of the great S5 camera, I do not know its needs but I believe that the video performance of the S5 is more than excellent.
In recent YT video, former Lumix Ambassador Matti Sulanto did preliminary review & was without a Raw converter but noted GH6 JPGs looked better than S5 SOC, presumably due to new sensor & Venus Engine.
It definitely is better than the g9, especially jpg. For raw, I do really want to wait for adobe support to draw more conclusion but from what I have seen using silkypix as raw converter it is improved too
I was waiting for Adobe Raw support before replying, and I can now say with confidence that both RAW and JPG are superior on the GH6 vs my G9. I still love the G9, but the hi res mode on the GH6 is now my go-to for landscapes.
Hi - very good video - does the GH6 do live composite (similar to olympus EM1)? THANKS!
No it doesnt
I got GH4 and GH5... GH6 seems like a better hibrid camera than the a7iii at the same price in my country.
There are definitely a lot of things the gh6 does better than the a7iii especially if you also shoot a bit of video
I use gh5 and em1 m2. I want to upgrade ti new m4/3 sensor to the best ibrid camera. Gh6 is fenomenal video camera. For photo I think om1 is better like old gh5 and em1. But gh6 probably is the best ibrid..
Kia Ora Richatd. May I ask how GH6 works with Olympus lenses. I have 40-150 f2.8, 7-14 g2.8, 25 f1.2. I know manual exposure clutch would not work, but how how about everything else? I heard there is am opinion that it is better to stick to native lenses. Thanks. Andrew
Kia Ora Andrew! I haven't tested too many Olympus lenses with the gh6 to be honest, but when I test it with the Olympus 60mm macro it works quite well, even continuous autofocus in video mode works pretty ok! But yes special features like clutch won't work.
Richard, I wanted to ask an important question to you. I was asking my online friend Steven Litton who has a GH6/Lumix channel. We were talking about extracting still photos from 4K video. I shoot often wildlife from my raft on the river. It's very unstable. The waves/wind and the boat is rocking and it's awkward to hold the camera steady while siting. When I shoot video there are always many frames that are in focus intermittently that are good. I rely heavily on grabbing stills from video. I told Steve I would ask you. He is also a fan of your channel. So the question is this. Do you have an opinion on what is my best video mode to use when thinking to extract many still frames. Now I'm using 4K 60P. I am wondering, would I be better shooting 5.8 K 60P or maybe even 4K 120????? Also would it be a better grab if I shot in 800mbps in 4K as opposed to 600. Does it matter what I use. Can I improve my video still frame grabs by using different settings. Please let me know.
Hi again Richard. I decided to watch this video again. I watched it when it came out. I see in this video you touch on the still image grab. So 120P was an example you used. I have used the internal GH6 still frame grab feature. Do you think it is better to use this feature instead of grabbing a still in adobe premiere? I think it's probably better to grab in camera. If you have any more thoughts on the matter, please let me know. Do you think 120 is better than 60P. I think that auto focus works better at higher frame rates and shutter speeds.
Richard, Sorry for so many questions but I wanted to ask one more thing. I shoot in Vlog video. If I use the internal still grab on GH6 will it be in vlog or does it give it a color profile? Is there a choice?
re frame rate, 30/60/120. i think it really depends on how fast things happen. Is there a chance shooting a 60 or 120 would give you the better "moment" than shooting at 30? if not, i would shoot in 30p to save some memory card space. That is assuming you don't need the high speed video for slow motion playback anyway. In general DFD autofocus works faster when shooting in high frame rate, but if you don't care too much about the focus transition smoothness and just want to grab a short video clip/screengrab, you can increase the AF sensitivity and speed to get faster autofocus performance (but downside is AF transition won't be quite as smooth and AF is a bit more unstable)
Re 5.8k vs 4k, to me, the biggest difference is the aspect ratio, 5.8k is 3:2 an 4k is 16:9. What is the output aspect ratio you want for your photo? If you are not sure, i would choose 5.8k as you have more option to crop during editing.
For the codec, i would shoot in All-I for sure, but 800mbps vs 600mbps i think if you can do 800mbps then go for that to get you best quality
I also suggest you pay attention to the shutter speed/aperture as those settings would probably impact how the image look greatly
If you shoot in VLOG, i would import the video to your video editing software and then do the colour grading from your 10bit video and screen grab there as that would give you a lot more flexibility in terms of colour grading /editing
hope that helps
Richard I turn to you for the truth. Many major channels are claiming the GH6 shoots 4K 10 bit 422 at 120FPS. Mine does not. Do yours. Why would major reviewers say such things. Is it true.?
hi SUTV, I'm pretty sure the GH6 can't do 4k 120 at 10bit 422. It is 420 10bit at 4k 120fps (still really good).
Which channel claims it can? maybe they made a mistake as there are so many specs it's really easy to make a mistake
@@TheRealRichardWong Well you are a nice person to think that it's a simple mistake because that is a very gigantic spec. It surely doe not shoot 10 bit 422 4k in 120 FPS. I get mad because many of the major channels who really know their stuff say it. If you watch PRO Av TV they say it loud and clear and put it in bold type on the screen. I realize 420 10 bit if fine but why so many BS about it. I'm a rookie and know very well the camera cannot do that. Anyhow. Thank You Richard.
Hi SUTV, I do genuinely think some channel may have just made a mistake. For each of my video, I always double or triple check my scripts and test results before I film .. then after edited everything together I usually re watch a few times to pick up any errors. And I can honestly tell you there are still quite a lot of errors in my videos. And I absolutely hate it as once you have published something, RUclips doesn't allow you to edit your errors unless you delete the video completely which is something we really avoid to do. But yeah check a few sources esp if you notice something that is not consistent between different review channels, I really made mistakes too so I won't ask you to just trust whatever I said :)
Suberb video. have a great weekend / Ulf
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for the good video !!
Thanks for watching
thankyou, that was helpfull
Thanks for watching
Some people reported the dynamic range for photography was worse than GH5 and G9, what are your thoughts about this ?
i didn't really notice much difference. If the GH5/G9 has better DR, the difference would be minimal.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thank you
Have you tried bracketing with the GH6, I need to know if it’s a issue with my camera or is it across the board.
What issue do you have Damion?
@@TheRealRichardWong when attempting to bracket exposures on the GH6 3 or 5 it only produces two images.
Hi Richard, great video. Just wondering what colour profile is best for stills on the GH6 to get the best flexibility in editing during post?
if you want flexibility, i would suggest just shoot in RAW and in that case, the profile doesn't matter much (just don't use VLOG).
Otherwise if you only want shoot in JPG, i would choose something that has a lower contrast like FLAT.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the prompt response Richard! I’ve been producing video for a long time and only recently started doing event stills and I’ve been shooting RAW with a slightly adapted Natural profile. Good to know that I have the dynamic range needed for stills post production in basically any profile (except vlog.) Thanks again!
I like the way you pronounce mode haha
6k to photo do u know what Raw mb was for this ? on G9 ?
How big can you print the 100 megapixel file and have a print with high detail ?
Sorry i can't answer this question as it's really subjective. usually the larger the print means we would view it from a further distance so you can say you could print it as large as you want.
Is the GH6 shutter as sensitive as the G9? 'cos the G9 shutter is driving me insane.
it is quite sensitive as well.
Yeah the af is fast, but for video the pulsing still is bad. They really need to go to pdaf like oly has... I do want to use mine to try some sports for the longer lenses I have over my canon R5.
The problem wih gh6 now is the price
Its more expensive than s5 with lens 😌
I hope that a successor to the G9 comes out with all this, but the OM1 sensor that is better than this one. Give it enhanced video, no cooling, 5,7 MP 0.83 EVF, better backscreen, surely HH Highres and OM1 speed in shooting AND OSPDAF...I'll buy it for 2000 euro.
Let's wait and see, hopefully we will see something from Panasonic soon!
The video started in 144p and I was so confused... I was like why would anyone want this camera for photo
144p!
"Panasonic Lumix GH6 which would benefit photographers Camera gear used to film this video" Come on Richard. We don't film with video we VIDEO with video, we film with film. Your work is great! Your understanding of the difference is lost in translation. Using the word film to describe digital video robs everyone of understanding and learning the difference. This video was shot, recorded, videoed. NOT filmed. There is a film crew right now, filming, with film. Not to be compared with the gear used for VIDEO. You are talented and smart. Keep up the good work, don't let the misinformed masses sway you into using language that is incorrect.
Er... as someone who has worked in the film industry for two decades and personally experienced the shift from celluloid to video, I can tell you that the word "film" has been used for video motion picture production ever since video was first introduced into the industry.
Words change meaning over time, in case you haven't noticed.
@@BurfieldPhoto1 He does it on facebook too. Complaining about weird things all the time.
@@BurfieldPhoto1 Er... as someone that has worked in the film and television industry for 40 years. I have worked on sit-coms, I am a certified Avid Editor, worked with CMX non-linear editor, television news, movie production, music videos and have edited numerous book on the history of motion picture and television history. The word film has only been used to describe FILM and the evolution of calling VIDEO film started when the smartphone showed up. We never described video production as filming. When every amature ended up with a video camera in their hand (smartphone) the general consumer started using a word they were familiar with since video tape was no longer necessary. We went from filming to taping to solid state drive. At that point there was to languistic markers to describe the process and the general population defaulted to film. The professional knew better. Saying, "the word "film" has been used for video motion picture production ever since video was first introduced into the industry." Is total nonsence. Clearly you understanding of the history of the technology is limited. It's sad. It shows lack of pride in the craft and understanding of the technology we use. And, dumbs down the individual and those that want to learn.✌
@@Rocketryman there's a lot I could say about my own experiences on set and the filmmakers I've worked with in reply, but I'm just going to make this point to illustrate to everyone how farcical your assertions are. ARRI use "film" and "filmmaking" in reference to their Alexas. I'm pretty damn sure their understanding of the history of the technology is better than yours.
@@BurfieldPhoto1 pretty sad that the only answer you have is what they say. Sadly ARRI is at a loss as well. Yes even ARRI can be wrong. If you made a tiny effort to understand. And clearly your own experiences don't mean much since you don't know the difference. But hey ARRI says so. Really sad how little you appreciate or understand the craft. Filmmakers use film. We are videographers. Be proud not a follower.
they dropped a live-composite feature :(
yeah i know :(
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why some people say gh6 photos have less dynamic range than gh5? gh6 has higher dynamic range i cant belive the photos are worse.
There were some tests that show the GH6's dynamic range is lower than GH5 for low ISO settings. It is possible it is the trade off of the new higher sensor which has some improvements in other areas.
@@TheRealRichardWong what is low iso settings? I always shoot at 400 iso
The graph I saw, gh6 is worse at iso 100 &200. At 400 it's almost da same, from 800 onwards gh6 is better
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you very much, so this issiue does not bother me.😁
Doesn`t make sense to compare any product to another one that is 3 or more years older!
Why not compare to a LEADING product in the same range?
Yes I know - always in the same manufacturer so the winner ist always... the manufacturer.