This SIMPLE WOODWORKING PROJECT Is Making Me Easy Money

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @AreBaloni
    @AreBaloni  Год назад +3

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  • @nathanpegler1580
    @nathanpegler1580 Год назад +43

    Brutal well spoken honesty. Its a grind and a struggle out here every day. The world is upside down and making the best of it, staying busy, mentally focused and spiritual is a balancing act

  • @jadekennedy3619
    @jadekennedy3619 Год назад +17

    I have run a small business for 10+years. You are on the right track. Sell what people will pay for. Then slowly add products that cost more as you get more well known. Takes time, but slowly increase your prices. Eventually you can get to a healthy income by carving out your niche market. Best of luck!

  • @bennoble-vick3677
    @bennoble-vick3677 Год назад +87

    Finally a video for the normal woodworkers who don't have all the fancy equiptment.
    Keep it up and keep it simple

    • @oh-totoro
      @oh-totoro Год назад +1

      For real. I'm fed up of seeing every woodworking RUclipsr decked out with every Festool product going.

    • @-fuglabur-2980
      @-fuglabur-2980 Год назад +1

      but he does have a table saw and those tools soo what do you mean?

    • @BaBaBenny
      @BaBaBenny Год назад +1

      Have you seen the price on that Mirka sander? He has WELL more money in tools than the "average" woodworker. Just saying

    • @Andy-te6jj
      @Andy-te6jj Год назад

      I agree

    • @MrTresto
      @MrTresto 11 месяцев назад

      It might not be fancy brand (except for the Mirka sander) but it's not your average home shop either, it's very complete. Band saw, table saw, miter saw, router, big bench, etc. Honestly the fancy brand ones (at least Festool) mostly have SIGNIFICANTLY better dust collection. And are more pleasant/easy to use. But in the end, it's just a table saw, a palm router, etc. Except for the domino, Festool does nothing particularly unique.... You can do all of it with a Ryobi set that might cost under $1000 ...

  • @PandorasFolly
    @PandorasFolly Год назад +7

    I know of one guy who does the whole super high end custom furniture thing. Amazing inlays, beautiful joinery, sometimes exotic woods, etc. Spenda a month or more on a single project.
    Said he got his start on that path when he went to a large arts and crafts show in Santa Fe, NM. And he showed up with 2 chairs and matching table, an armoir, a room divider, and a 1000 business cards. One lady bought everything the second day and he made over $24,000. He only had 300 business cards left.
    Now this was back about 2002 or so the internet was not as nearly as omnipresent but the leason still stands. I guess make a splash and know your worth. "If someone is willing to pay 7000$ for custom table they will pay $12000 or $20000 for a custom table" is what he said. Was told something similar by a ultra high end cabinet maker

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli Год назад +29

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @haideralikhan8364
    @haideralikhan8364 Год назад +21

    I am an amateur woodworker and found your video to be very practical and inspiring. I especially loved the advice regarding wasting time on finishing. Hats off and respect to your grandfather who truly a great man planted the seeds in your soul.

  • @bushman4124
    @bushman4124 8 месяцев назад +3

    your grandfather was a smart man, business takes time to build up but you are on the right track, i started with smaller items to build up my name.

  • @maximus1847
    @maximus1847 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love your honesty mate!

  • @jameymikels1886
    @jameymikels1886 Год назад +10

    Been a Woodworker/Cabinetmaker/Furniture Maker for 50 years..... have a full shop..... and I spent more than than I made..... but I finally made it to the upper brackets in the last 10 years...... I opened a couple Laundromats..... now I am comfortable spending more than I make with woodworking..... Your Grandfather and my Parents were right! LOL

    • @amorton94
      @amorton94 7 месяцев назад +1

      Laundromats still make money?

    • @jameymikels1886
      @jameymikels1886 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@amorton94 They do.... everyone needs clean clothes

    • @amorton94
      @amorton94 7 месяцев назад

      @@jameymikels1886 Did you start them yourself or purchase them already established?

  • @AbdulAkrami-fs6cv
    @AbdulAkrami-fs6cv 3 месяца назад

    I’m a furniture designer and furniture maker. You’re a wonderful person. Actually you can be a good teacher.

  • @joelsolo302
    @joelsolo302 Год назад +27

    I enjoyed the video. I am a custom woodworker that went to school for woodworking and still struggle with what I like to think of as imposter syndrome when making high end pieces. I really can relate to charging high prices and it not feeling justified. It seems to me that you have figured out some very important "self realizations" about where to place yourself with your skill level and charging for it. That alone makes you successful no matter what level you are. But i must tell you that if you wanted to get "better" it is in you, you just have to know it. Thanks again for the video. Good luck to you and keep allowing yourself to grow in the trade!

    • @oTAP3Ro
      @oTAP3Ro Год назад

      A good thing to do to get over thinking you are charging to much is add a zero to the end of your asking price. So if you are selling something for $800 it would be $80,000. Too much? Well now if you only double your price it doesn't seem as unreasonable!

  • @lorismiotto88dilegnoamano
    @lorismiotto88dilegnoamano 3 дня назад

    I do like your working philosophy. About seating, to get comfortable sits, the rear part if the sit has to be lower than the front. Believe me. Ciao from Treviso Italy.

  • @scotttatlock3188
    @scotttatlock3188 Год назад +4

    I like to do wood working and I like to go metal detecting. I wanted to buy a little more serious metal detector, but could not justify spending that much. I took a few months of making stuff out of pallet wood. Stuff would sell almost immediately cause it was unique and at an easy price point. I got the pallets for free at work. I totally get your thing about your hourly rate. I did not make anywhere enough to do as a job, but it was enough to fund another hobby

  • @adriaanvaneyndhoven1159
    @adriaanvaneyndhoven1159 Год назад +10

    The beauty of the Mirka Deros is its dust extraction capabilities. So please get yourself a shop vacuum. The pressure treated wood is quite toxic. But great work and even greater explanation.

    • @AusWorkshop
      @AusWorkshop Год назад +1

      Yes, it's the main reason I don't like using it. There's enough danger in dust without the extra pollution of working with this stuff and having it in my bandsaw, sander, dust collection system and workshop environment. Even though I always wear a mask when using machines or power tools it would still be hanging around all the time on your property. Over many years surely that's not good.

    • @Patenhtc
      @Patenhtc Год назад

      Got here to write the same thing. That dust is no joke

  • @ronsaenz9033
    @ronsaenz9033 Год назад +31

    I just simply love the simplicity and yet elegance of the bench design. Great work!! I also agree with your findings about selling things. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @damianmaynard2592
    @damianmaynard2592 Год назад +3

    LIke what you are saying and what you are doing. You touch on the many perils of woodworking, the personal life style goals, the imposter syndrome ( we all have it ) 😅. The realisation of profit and time, the expenses of materials and tools, and dropping the ego and making what people want rather than what you want them to buy, all spot on. I have spent 25 years struggling in the woodwork world and its great to see somebody realise these problems, drop the ego and bang on with making some money, whilst still enjoying the work, well done pal.

  • @wahinenuiloa
    @wahinenuiloa 6 месяцев назад

    I appreciate how candid you are about what you are doing! Thank You!!

  • @Michael-my6jo
    @Michael-my6jo Год назад +2

    Nice work and a very good job. 20+ year union cabinetmaker here, and I love this video and your work. Thank you! Best of success to you, and may God grant you many years.

  • @D_J_F_4
    @D_J_F_4 Год назад +9

    Love the style of your video. Very well explained and the stories/wisdom from your grandpa is a beautiful touch that really gives the video a very unique and warm feel. Kudos my friend!

  • @huntermccomack3693
    @huntermccomack3693 Год назад

    I enjoyed the tongs at the end quite a bit. Top notch.

  • @352508
    @352508 Год назад

    Good solid furniture! Keep making what will sell and you can still have time to make what you want.

  • @bradleytuckwell4881
    @bradleytuckwell4881 11 месяцев назад

    Sounds like your grandfather made a lot of sense. At least you tried it your way and come full circle. It is a great design and well priced good luck on your journey and of course it’s well worth a sub

  • @joelg4849
    @joelg4849 Год назад

    I saw this video come up and wasn't going to watch it (idk why) but then it came up again today, and I clicked on it. I'm really glad I did! Very laid back and informative video.

  • @MrPibass
    @MrPibass Год назад +1

    Do I only profit if I point at the numbers with tongs at the end?

  • @ziopapa1777
    @ziopapa1777 5 месяцев назад

    That’s an amazing sander!!!

  • @skipanardoross6805
    @skipanardoross6805 Год назад

    You are wise beyond your years. Very good and useful advice. Best of luck to you.

  • @Rmez-m1s
    @Rmez-m1s Год назад

    Complete new b to carpentry and I got soooo much out of this video. Thank you for uploading

  • @deb-77d
    @deb-77d 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing your experiences

  • @HampsteadHomestead
    @HampsteadHomestead Год назад

    I like the pointing device!

  • @brianknowles7130
    @brianknowles7130 Год назад

    Admiration and respect for your honesty. thks fm UK.

  • @nadiemequire
    @nadiemequire Год назад +6

    Very interesting video and quite unusual in that you don't just talk about making money, you put the figures out there for everyone to see. You do quality work which is also a plus.

  • @JaapKreling
    @JaapKreling Год назад

    Nice to see you back Are!

  • @scottbionicnerf8727
    @scottbionicnerf8727 Год назад

    I'm glad I stumbled across one of your project videos a few days ago, I just didn't get to watch the whole video. I'm a subscriber now, so I won't miss any of your uploads and now I can go back and watch them when I'm out for knee surgery in the coming months.😎

  • @HardBeBold
    @HardBeBold Год назад

    Thanks a lot for your video and for you clean English I'm understand almost all things without translator ! Thanks again 👍

  • @TCGEricAnon
    @TCGEricAnon Год назад +6

    I really appreciate the vulnerability you bring with this video. I'm working on a project right now for a client and I really connected with what you said about your hourly rate. I've put in a couple weeks of focused time and attention trying to get a few tables done perfectly for this client but I'm not gonna get paid what I deserve for them. I'm making this choice intentionally, but its an unfortunate situation either way.
    I just relate to the imposter syndrome thing. Like, I'm putting in all this time because I feel like my client deserves the best product I can give her, but I also know she can't afford the full value of my labor. This experience has definitely taught me to be more selective with my clients as well as spending more time up front planning, even if the planning process is difficult and frustrating.
    For context, my client is disabled and needs specially designed tables to accommodate her disability. She's not in the best spot financially and is already forking out a few grand for just the materials. I'm probably gonna make around a grand even though I've put in probably 30-35 hours already. My hourly rate is normally $50-55 so this is definitely a big hiccup for me.

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 Год назад +2

      Well it seems to me that you made an exception for this one lady, and perhaps word of mouth will bring you more business in return… oh yeah, and also Karma!

  • @tutunuitekanawa3940
    @tutunuitekanawa3940 11 месяцев назад

    great tips from you and your grandad bro, thank you

  • @editboy23
    @editboy23 Год назад

    I love that you include hourly rates. It's something I really started thinking about when I built flower boxes this summer. I had an overly complicated design that took me almost 3 hours to build. Found another that cut the time in half, which hugely increased my profits. Love your vids, you earned a sub!

  • @ZS6JON17
    @ZS6JON17 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent advice and Tips
    Thank you

  • @caterinac534
    @caterinac534 Год назад

    Great job! Watching from Canada.

  • @ryanm2214
    @ryanm2214 Год назад +1

    I am going through the same, realizing too much time is spent without the experience or confidence to sell high and realizing there is no path to success sticking with that. Still seeking my niche though. Appreciate what you said here!

  • @mikeleuluai7647
    @mikeleuluai7647 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing your journey and your work.

  • @Bwdwoods
    @Bwdwoods Год назад

    Thanks for all the tips. I'm currently in the same position are you were in. I need to change myself as a woodworker.

  • @laurentolivares
    @laurentolivares 9 месяцев назад

    Honesty and tips, i'm in, suscribed.

  • @ArkusWoodworking
    @ArkusWoodworking Год назад

    I’m going to make a set and see how it goes, thanks friend!

  • @papplaszlo787
    @papplaszlo787 Год назад

    Good luck and wish you all the best!

  • @keithmccann2640
    @keithmccann2640 Год назад

    Good honest video, thanks

  • @germcrazyshokoff3623
    @germcrazyshokoff3623 Год назад

    Great job. I love the discussion of the money and marketing as much as I like watching the building.

  • @simonr6793
    @simonr6793 Год назад +12

    Are, you have managed to hit the nail right on the head with this build idea. It looks awesome and above all it looks to be very sturdy and will last the folks that buy them years, which is obviously well worth the price!!!
    One other thing, you really need to be using a dust collection system either a heppa shop vac or something similar as the Mirka Deros sander has fantastic dust collection and your sanding pads will last you a lot lot longer if you use a vac or something similar. I have the same sander and it's brilliant on the dust side of things when using a vac, the pads last me ages compared to when not using dust extraction. As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.

  • @ronin2963
    @ronin2963 Год назад

    Welcome back! I hope things are going well for you.

  • @joephillips8244
    @joephillips8244 Год назад

    Good job and good luck!
    Great video!

  • @edtsch
    @edtsch Год назад +1

    Shipping? Are you only selling to people who can pick them up?

  • @thecelt4807
    @thecelt4807 Год назад

    good on ya mate . grandfather was right greets from Australia

  • @paulmaryon9088
    @paulmaryon9088 9 месяцев назад

    Top work and top man, be lucky, thanks for the video

  • @chrispark11
    @chrispark11 Год назад

    Smooth background music.

  • @JohnTodler
    @JohnTodler Год назад

    Nice Job and good luck !!

  • @irohyes
    @irohyes Год назад

    Hey man. From Texas, US and I gotta say you're doing something right here! Keep up the good work 💪

  • @peterschmidt4341
    @peterschmidt4341 Год назад

    Good Job!
    I guess it will work.
    Best wishes!

  • @kenea3226
    @kenea3226 Год назад

    Well done Are. You earned another subscriber.

  • @soledude
    @soledude Год назад

    Fascinating and enlightening. 👏👏👏

  • @Poppy_love59
    @Poppy_love59 Год назад

    Great Business plan!

  • @NancyHafler
    @NancyHafler Год назад

    Thank you for the inspiring video!

    • @AreBaloni
      @AreBaloni  Год назад

      Thanks for watching, Nancy!

  • @stephenlogan1115
    @stephenlogan1115 Год назад

    Very nice. Thank you!

  • @YouHeckinBetcha
    @YouHeckinBetcha Год назад

    Great video and story. Keep it up!

  • @myhoneyshandmade1077
    @myhoneyshandmade1077 Год назад +1

    Good video. I made an outdoor set last year for. Customer. It turned out great.

  • @craigjok
    @craigjok Год назад

    Excellent video and great skills. Thanks

  • @bjames1200
    @bjames1200 Год назад +1

    This is one of the nicest-looking simple designs I have seen. Great work. 👍

  • @tokyoguy9
    @tokyoguy9 Год назад

    Hey there! I just came upon your channel in a moment of idle browsing woodworkers. I ended up staying and watching the whole video and really enjoyed getting your insight and experience. It resonated with me because it was also my Grandfather who got me into woodworking. He's in my mind every time I touch a piece of lumber--although I am just a hobbiest. I really like where you came landed with your outdoor furniture project. It is beautiful and stands out through it's simplicity and authenticity. Nice work

  • @Awkwave
    @Awkwave Год назад

    space for all this is super important, wish i had good space

  • @chrisa1125
    @chrisa1125 Год назад

    Really cool, thanks for sharing. I'm not a woodworker or carpenter but I hope you make gobs of money for this custom made furniture.

  • @craigcolbourn8351
    @craigcolbourn8351 10 месяцев назад

    Really great design! Thank you for sharing this vid.
    Just subscribed

  • @matthewmills6452
    @matthewmills6452 Год назад +1

    I made a table very similar to this. I put the table top boards just like you did, alternating the growth rings up and down. The boards with the growth rings facing down have all cupped. Tough lesson, as the material was quite expensive. If you pause the video at 7:16, the outer and middle boards will stay flat because the support and screws should stop them from cupping. The second and fourth board will cup away from the support. May never be an issue if they seal it and use it in a covered area. Outdoors, like mine is, it will be cupped shortly.

    • @Knatterbart
      @Knatterbart Год назад

      why would you alternate the growth pattern if you're not glueing the boards together? As far as I know that's the only case where that is of use. Otherwise, boards will always cup in the direction you mentioned, if not held down by screws or else, I guess

    • @matthewmills6452
      @matthewmills6452 Год назад

      I put the best looking sides up. It just so happened that was alternating. Putting screws on the outside edges of wide boards to hold them down is a recipe for problems@@Knatterbart

    • @Knatterbart
      @Knatterbart Год назад

      @@matthewmills6452 but then why did only those boards cup? did I get you wrong? I thought what you did was screwing them down

    • @matthewmills6452
      @matthewmills6452 Год назад

      @@Knatterbart The boards are screwed in from the underside, and only at the centers, to allow for wood expansion and contraction along it's width. The ones installed correctly stayed flat because the support pieces kept them flat. The ones I installed wrong all warped, because there's nothing above to resist that. I was stupid, lol.

    • @Knatterbart
      @Knatterbart Год назад

      @@matthewmills6452 ah okay..now I get it. Well, now you know better! 😀

  • @mek90703
    @mek90703 Год назад

    I completely agree with your assessment on fine furniture! I see guys on RUclips selling these epoxy tables for thousands and thousands of dollars! Where do they find these people? I made one for my family and I was asked by a friend how much I would sell it for? I told him considering how much time I had spent on it I would think $5000 was fair. He couldn't believe it and his reaction told me that there was no chance he'd pay that much for it, even though he really liked it. Keep doing what your doing! Your grandfather was a smart man!

    • @AndyWJP
      @AndyWJP 9 месяцев назад

      He finds them on social media by building an audience, also ads on a Craig's list kind of site. It's a waste of time trying to sell to friends and family.

  • @fritzkraemer1668
    @fritzkraemer1668 Год назад

    After all, your Grandpa was right! I think all of us start whit the dream of fine exclusiv Woodwork. I like your Set and the way you simply build it

  • @droneforfun5384
    @droneforfun5384 5 месяцев назад

    Bra jobbat!!

  • @flynow5614
    @flynow5614 Год назад

    Good job.

  • @agog86
    @agog86 Год назад

    Love the advice. I have had the same issues and this is extremely helpful.

  • @molinobeer
    @molinobeer 11 месяцев назад

    Why plug holes with untreated wood 4:35 on treated wood outdoor furniture? Wont that will root pretty fast?

  • @marwlan9854
    @marwlan9854 Год назад

    very good and nice job ,keep going.....

  • @ScottAnders62
    @ScottAnders62 Год назад

    Outstanding advice! I totally agree with so much of what you pointed out in this video.

  • @jaymesserly5868
    @jaymesserly5868 Год назад

    Awesome video, I appreciate that you're making these videos. Tusen takk

  • @FranciscoVelazquezGimenez
    @FranciscoVelazquezGimenez Год назад

    Very good man, keep going!

  • @MultiTom1956
    @MultiTom1956 Год назад +1

    Enjoyed watching 😊best wishes for your new endeavor 🙏

    • @AreBaloni
      @AreBaloni  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Glad to hear that :)

  • @TonyV_in_the_OC
    @TonyV_in_the_OC Год назад +3

    Well done. Nice explanation of your experience and how fine furniture requires the highest skill level woodworking. $83 an hour is over $172,000 usd a year. Good living even here in California!! Best wishes.

    • @nelus7276
      @nelus7276 Год назад +1

      I seriously doubt he could sell that much though. Also, he's not including the cost of having a workshop, making the sale, insurances, especially against disabilities incurred doing this kind of work. Include the fact that when he targets a larger customer base many are going to want it for $899 instead of $1200... There's room to improve efficiency though. All in all I don't think an operation like this is going to make him more than $80k a year in disposable income. Still pretty good for not having to deal with a boss, but he's going to have to deal with a LOT of customers and/or dealers.

    • @BoyvanHeugten
      @BoyvanHeugten Год назад

      You're building 40 hrs a week, 52 weeks a year? Yeah nah a third of that, at best.

  • @crushvapor1147
    @crushvapor1147 Год назад +2

    Great video, your furniture looks great.
    Great advice and stated perfectly and clearly, thanks.

  • @barryroberts6470
    @barryroberts6470 Год назад

    Very nicely made and it looks great as well, one tiny little tip, if you are showing your stuff beside the road i would personally put a chain and post of some sort to chain it up, the last thing you want is your hard work getting snatch by someone with a van or truck. Not sure if this is outside your workshop or not but it's worth thinking about especially if you have Power Tools and Ear Defenders on, you won't hear anything.
    Take Care and Stay Safe,
    Barry (UK)

    • @AreBaloni
      @AreBaloni  Год назад +1

      Thank you, Barry! I feel very safe putting my furniture by the road. It's been there for a few months now, and nothing's happened. Hopefully it will stay like that!
      All the best

  • @jimmcnett
    @jimmcnett Год назад

    Excellent video. I think you are on to a great idea.

  • @seacitadel
    @seacitadel Год назад

    Good for you dude 👍👍

  • @tallermyc
    @tallermyc Год назад

    Que bien verte por acá de nuevo. Excelente proyecto!! Saludos desde Chile.

  • @beasley8701
    @beasley8701 Год назад

    Just stumbled across your video! Great watch, lovely build, and interesting take on things! I’ll be stopping by to watch more!
    I have the same Mirka, and I would really recommend getting an extractor to use with it! You’ll thank me later!

  • @martinhair3935
    @martinhair3935 10 месяцев назад

    Great vid
    I am just starting out with my own little rented workshop after 30 years of construction carpentry
    Im unsure of what to make that will sell well enough to live by at least
    Thanks for the wise information young man

  • @ThePonderingWoodworker
    @ThePonderingWoodworker Год назад

    Nice video. You gained a new subscriber

  • @Randomiz500
    @Randomiz500 Год назад

    I like the look! :-D
    07:17 the first and third plank on the table are faced correct "smiling" the rest are going to cup over time and therefore rot faster.. 🙂

    • @mananddog9884
      @mananddog9884 Год назад +1

      Should you have the smile facing upwards then? Not like a ‘sad’ face pointing down?

    • @Randomiz500
      @Randomiz500 Год назад

      @@mananddog9884 Smiling yes. The bottom ring of the board should always face into the structure, and the curve go up at the side and out of the structure. 🙂

    • @nedcramdon1306
      @nedcramdon1306 11 месяцев назад

      @@mananddog9884 I've built many treated tables. None rotted unless the legs were in the mud.

  • @Tommysbuilds
    @Tommysbuilds Год назад

    i love that you hide the screws but to be honest make them stick out from the legs just slightly will make it look even better (and its less work)

  • @duck-fil-a3606
    @duck-fil-a3606 Год назад

    7:15 should the board be cupped up or down? I see some are up and some are down.

  • @Oesthassel
    @Oesthassel Год назад +4

    Bra vid, Are! Produksjonen er perf for views på yt! God miks av genuine tips og ASMR woodworking🤤 heier!!!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @AreBaloni
      @AreBaloni  Год назад

      Gøy å høre, Jacob! 🤩

  • @harrisedgar
    @harrisedgar Год назад

    Wonderful..!!! I'm subscribing..!!

  • @SteveWilliams4Life
    @SteveWilliams4Life Год назад

    I own a co in Pittsburgh that builds Floating Decks full time and we share the same philosophy of letting the customer color their piece! We've only ever had 1 single customer request that WE stain their deck! 💯

  • @sbrcchanel
    @sbrcchanel Год назад

    Hello from Indonesia ..you are good

  • @licklogacres
    @licklogacres Год назад

    Going to give the not finishing a product a try in my sales. Just getting started in my area with selling furniture but almost done with 3 outdoor benches. Going to finish 1 of the 3 for pictures / giving to wife's parents.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Год назад +1

      I’ve got a friend who has an autobody shop downstairs from my shop and he sometimes does furniture finishing when business is slow. If I decide to try try this outdoor furniture business, I think I’d sell it unfinished and refer clients to him if they didn’t want to do it themselves. Maybe he’d give me a commission.