I get more dopamine from hearing this voice than anything else. I just know the next 5 minutes are informative, intriguing, and usually satisfying. Thanks science channel
There's a mention of the remote power disconnect feature. I'm sure employees of the utility who had to enter a property to turn off the power for non-payment of a utility bill and were confronted by a hostile customer appreciate that feature.
The smart meters here in France have no relay function built in, so they cannot be used to disconnect customer supply. All they have is a couple of dry contacts to drive your own day/night tariff relay.
in America they're still CONTACT tracing for COVID but they're not saying anything about it! nobody is talking about it or conversations are restricted! this sucks. another Bluetooth device phoning home. Google will certainly take advantage of it
In Hawai'i they are rolling these out in mass and the theory is when you use too much power during peek hours they can shut you off to "protect the grid"
They would disconnect at the distribution substation, not individually at the meter. There’s things called “underfrequency relays” which operate automatically when generation is severely deficient.
@@jeremyloveslinux The idea behind load shedding at the meter is that you can be way more granular and instead of being limited to just what you can disconnect at the substation you can now disconnect e.g. 1/3rd of the homes you would have had to disconnect. Also in practice if they're cutting load based on current high usage then you'd be able to do way less than that as one home with the dryer running and fast charging an EV will easily draw down the same power as 10 other homes that are lightly loaded just running lights and low load appliances. They would disconnect at the substation ordinarily, part of the promise of smart meters is being able to limit outages due to load shedding to a much smaller group of homes.
Excellent video. Over what radio frequency are these messages transmitted? They don’t drive around and pick this information up. Do they connect to the Internet somehow?
Most will have a sim card and use a cellular network. Edit: that's the standard where I live but in some cases they use RF to a nearby data collector, then that one uses some connection to pass on the data from multiple meters.
He is right. The frequency they use is close to the same frequency a garage door opener uses. The information is also encrypted so information can’t be stolen or someone outside of the company can’t kill the grid
The ones that My local utility company uses operate off of a either 850 or 900 MHz mesh network system meaning each meter acts as a repeater and then every so often there are access points mounted on the utility poles.
Uh I thought plastic is one of hardest materials to deteriorate? You know, that's kinda why we have so much of it in landfills and oceans. It doesn't degrade easily.
I used to work at a meter lab and I remember my boss telling me about a simple way that an electromechanical meter could be disabled without having to mess with magnets or anything similar, and impossible to prove tampering. All you needed was a magnifying glass (yes, I understood the theory what he was hinting at, and no, I will not share it).
@@observe_and_purport the visual inspection was usually from the distance, the distance where the numbers could be read. many times when there was a more detailed inspection (you knew when) the plastic cover was removed very carefully (the one with the hole) and another perfect one was added with 2 points of superglue. usually there were 2 inspectors per 2,3,4 localities and if they took a penny from each house that had this system without saying a word easy money...
When was that? Since the start of mass production of PCB based electronics there have been automated lines, before that electronic devices usually had no PCB and just ran wires from separate components which was a mess... Wave soldering has been around far longer so there was never really a time where humans had to do all the placement and soldering on PCBs...
I remember when all wiring in electronics was point-to-point, and also when the forerunners of the circuit board began to appear in small vacuum tube radios. They were called couplets and were small, flat, sealed assemblies of perhaps 6 components inside. Typically, 6 wires came out one edge and were soldered to pins of tube sockets, and so forth.
@@Raviolli96Are you guys still hiring?? I just completed my Pre-apprenticeship as an electrician like 2 weeks ago and im interested into getting an intership there
As cool as this is, i dont like the thought of being one misclick away from having everything in the house shut off. Which, depending on the situation, can become quite costly as both heating, fridges, lights, freezers, etc. all require power to function.
True. Every command is recorded with the user name attached to it. Only way to mistakenly disconnect someone is if the meter information is incorrect. Records are important
The guy from the Applied Science RUclips channel took one apart years ago. It's a quality video, all his videos are very neat, and he has a nice demeanor to listen to.
Then shows how much electricity used and when, making it easier to better control your energy use and it helps keep the person that use to check your meter from getting their ass kicked for disconnecting your service!!!
Scary that they can't disconnect and connect your electricity remotely. If in the future they decide you are using too much, they can just cut you off.....ughhhh.
if they don't like what you're doing they would just go to your house and disconnect the power regardless. A smart meter making a private company turning it off remotely makes no difference.
cant speak on the distrust part, but there’s a safety aspect of it too. Wouldn’t want homes with solar pumping energy back into the grid while someone’s working on it.
Yep, originally sold to the public as a time and money saving device for the electric company....But as usual, this key piece in the electrical supply for your home has been weaponized. Why do you think the globalists want to end hydrocarbon fuels? Takes a major portion of energy away from the populus and makes them dependent on ONE source of energy that can be managed remotely.....Sorry Mr. jones, you've run your alotment of energy credits out for this month.....Your service will be restored in 16 days....Have a nice day.
apparently these also make grandpas experts in electric devices since they make scientific claims that these emit harmful radiowaves and you can only cancel them with aluminium foil
Idk what a grandpas experts is but I can say I worked in this production facility with hundreds of other people. hundreds of these meters would be actively emitting rf at a time and it was not an issue for anyone. Which makes sense. It's all non ionizing radiation. Not any different than your cell phone or toy rc car or wireless home security system. And yes. Some of those meters use 3G 4G 5G or some other rf band. Some even communicate through the power lines themselves. Just depends on what the utility wants for whatever area.
But what about bidirectional smart electric meters? My utility's mobile app is very nice with plenty of detail down to the hour or less with averages on delivered, received and net.
Overcharging is relative, what these meters enable is monitoring how much and when you're using. Time-of-use is the major factor that will determine how hard in the pocket you will get hit.
@@WASTEOFTIMESTUDIOS At least in Germany, every energy meter, smart or not, used for billing purposes must be calibrated. No idea if the US do this too...
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t oh by the way here's a novel idea don't purchase one they're listening anyway if you have a cell phone in your pocket all the time don't you
@@wildlifewarrior2670 read my words closely, it says "another way" I'm well aware of the risk to privacy cellphones pose, additionally these are often times mandatory so its not as simple as don't get one for some people. find it weird your inclination to argue this with me but I've said my piece. Take care sheep!
We use itron meters and they don't have SIM cards or communicate on cellular networks, they talk to each via a mesh network on the Zigbee protocol which in turn talks to Pole Mounted Routers (that do have SIM cards and are pole mounted) that work on a redundant network of our own internal radio communications system as well as cellular networks.
Yes, that is the point of an electricity meter, to meter how much electricity you use... Next up: your vacuum cleaner turns on every time you use it!...
@@someguy4915 Nah dude, they can literally tell what you're using by its power signature. I work with these meters and their associated equipment and they can %100 tell when, how, and what and you are using.
@@Smokkedandslammed Nope, they know the total power consumption, but even stuff such as power factor isn't measured, meaning they cannot differentiate what type of consumers you are using such as the difference between an old light bulb and a computer. Something you would know if you worked '%100' with them, whatever that means.
@@Smokkedandslammed Okay, sure dude, whatever you want to believe... The 'power signature' does not exist, at best you can guess the type of device by checking the power factor, which these meters cannot do... Since you work with them, tell me what equipment I'm using...
@@someguy4915 Hold on, let me compute and enter some algorithms....Ok, got it....Ohhhh dang, you were right, I can't tell if you have your real doll heater plugged in or the heater for your flesh light tucked between your mattress and box spring. I can tell that what ever it is gets turned on and off a lot though...
Lol, try to OPT OUT of the smart meter. I had to get a Doctors Note, and threaten legal action to get mine removed. Now I pay a 10 a month fee for a reading, and it is always struggle on the price of the bill. But at least I don’t have that spyware in my home.
No reason to be sorry about that. Here in Belgium we're converting to smart meters atm and there's only downsides: - When you have solar panels, the old meters spun backwards on sunny days and forwards during the winter months. Now injection and consumption is measured separately and we get a LOT less money for the power we inject than we have to pay for the power we consume. - The old meters just registered how much power you used and you pay a fixed price per kWh. If you had a double meter you could have a different price for daytime and nighttime use but that's it. With the smart meters they also check how you spread your usage and adjust pricing on that: slightly cheaper if you spread out your consumption... but if like most people you don't use a lot of electricity during the day and then start cooking, laundry, watching TV, using the computer all at once, you have to pay a "peak tariff" supplement - With the old meters, if you missed a monthly payment, you got one or two free warnings before they forced you to get a payment plan, and you had to be a lot behind before they limited or shut-off the supply. With the new meters, by the time you get a second warning they already limited your supply to less than what an oven uses and they can even turn off the gas since those are "smart" now as well. The pros are basically nothing: - You don't have to mail in the reading and allow the meter person in every 2-4 years anymore, which isn't really a hassle at all - You can buy a device that plugs in to the smart meter to track your energy consumption real-time, but that was already possible before by installing a metering device between the analog meter and the fusebox, ánd it wasn't really necessary before since there was no price difference between consumption and injection, nor peak tariffs...
@@Candisa let me break it down old meter add solar onto number new ones dont cost more at some times if you are clever enough to not choose that tarrif
@@UKsystems oh, here in Belgium the old meters spun backwards when the solar panels produce more than you use but you paid a fixed annual fee based on the power of the solar system. The new ones register injection separately but you only get 5-15€ct/kWh for injection while paying 30+€ct/kWh for consumption, but you don't pay a fee based on the solar system anymore. The old system was better for people who inject a lot of power during the day in the summer, but consume mostly in the evening and winter, the new system is better for people who actually use as they generate, but people who work during the day really need a battery now.
@Kl Sc Source for this claim? 30w is complete bs, 2-3 watts would've been a somewhat believable claim and even that is way more than they consume. Typical power draw would be around 0.2-0.5 watts max consumption with typically the consumption within the lower milliwatts.
no, the meter takes its power before the metering happens. and yes because ultimately all those costs get passed on. you could say that you even paid for the meter but now you don't have to pay the guy to drive around to check them.
Hey just so you know it's not "Oh you didn't pay your electric bill so we are shutting off the power" it's you went over your limit for the month now we are shutting off your power until next month! Welcome to WEF 2030.
That's illogical. The power company (or the WEF if your claim is remotely true) would've stood a chance to profit more by charging more if you "went over your limit". If you're going to make a conspiracy theory, at least put "their" main intention (profit) in mind!
The smart meter can't see the difference between a 2000W vacuum or a 2000W washer/hob/powertool/airconditioner/... so no, unless there's a massive grid capacity problem they won't shut down your power if you use too much of it at once, they earn a lot of money when you use a lot of electricity, stopping you from doing that when the grid allows for it would be terrible business.
Smart meters actually have no idea what appliance youre using, they only know that power is being used, if you pull 2000W for example, it dosent know if its going to 1 vaccum cleaner or 20 lightbulbs
@@lickablestinkage7783 it's unlikely someone turns on and off 20 light bulbs at the same time once or twice per week. it's a vacuum. if still in doubt, look at the power factor and you'll know it's from a motor. yeah, it's a vacuum.
Me either, but makes sense that the option to add one could easily be added. The one-time cost of having it added to the meter could save an employee time and fuel from not having to drive out to the residence and pull the meter off, put on some little dielectric condoms over the contacts and put the meter back on (At least that's how most power companies cut power to a residence) It wouldn't be worth it though if the meter didn't already have remote connectivity, because over their lifetime, how often do you think most meters ever have to be disconnected?
And all the benefits of this new meter goes toooooooo ......... The utility company. Remote Disconnect, No human to read meter, real time read outs. If it had even 1 benefit for the home owner, they wouldn't have done this.
wireless connection.... connected by satelite? by wifi? bluetooth? or do they have a secret wireless service that if we knew, we could connect to the internet for free? why not showing the computer that reads ( wireless) all the (hundred)thousands smart electric meters... just asking. i'm not that smart.
4G cellular. The same network that your cellphone uses. They sometimes also have local connectivity (usually Zigbee) to talk to other smart meters in the area, or read by a device in a moving vehicle.
never will i allow this on my land. Private companies will never have control over what i do on my own land and in my own house. How sad it makes me that people are willing to give up so many of their rights to mega-corps.
I like the Science Channel a lot but when you just put out a 5 plus minute video I'm not going to watch them and I'm going to give them a thumbs down this one's going to get a thumbs up but come on guys y'all can put out one longer than 5 minutes.
@@someguy4915 It figures you would beleve something like that. As an engineer for 40+ years know the technology, and all you need to do is take the wool off and look at all the facts, not mine. Even the power companies ane the green people have said that is their plan to control our carbon foot print.
@@richardhendel8132 I didn't say what if anything I believe, just that you should take your medication. Funny how all you're doing is projecting onto me, some conspiracy theory on how 'big power' is going to control the world xD Also funny how you say 'they are gonna control energy' because they said they want to reduce carbon footprint... That is the same as saying I want to take over the world because I like to eat bread. It shows a serious disconnect within your logic, signalling that you're suffering from psychosis or some other delusion, thus it's time for your anti-psychotic medication buddy.
@@someguy4915 I can see there is no point in trying to have a useful conversation. You seem to take facts as conspiracy theory. I nearly pointed out that the technology is in place to use control this remotely, either by your phone or by the main office. I know the technology and what it can do, I worked on it.
@@richardhendel8132 Lol you aren't trying to have a useful conversation, you're just making random statements and claiming some connection between them. Funny how you went from a 40+ year engineer to being an electrical engineer, programmer, electrician and system administrator all in one comment. If 'big gov' or 'big power/electric' wants to turn off electricity they can already do so from the source, that would instantly drop millions into the dark, much more effective than turning millions of meters off... Why would there by a conspiracy to turn off power to houses? Who would gain anything from that? This is what I meant, you are talking about a conspiracy, some nonsensical rambling. Take those meds buddy.
By spicing into the power lines coming into your house, better not let the power company see it though, and if they see u drawing no power for a long time they might start to get suspicious
@@cypa3458 no i'm not from ukraine. however if they are allowed to shut you off, just use a hammer and destroy the meter and then say someone else did it.
Not possible unless you know to scan proprietary RF and then decipher their encryption and then reprogram the meter which then it wouldn't work on the network with their program with your code and then they would just replace it with a new one.
Hmmmm...power company can shut power off at their will with the push of a key? Where I'm at, they can shut the power off to the AC even if you've never missed a payment. Other people get to decide the temperature of your house when no money is owed.
Ours was forced on by our utility company ever since we went solar. The utility company wouldn't allow our solar company to turn it on unless they had thier "smart solar meter" installed.. It is also the only option they had available.
@@justindavis1546 I'd pay the fee. That's how they lure most people in. They create a perceived benefit. California is the first state that would weaponize this, though they're behind Europe. Once they get enough people on these, they won't have to ask you to not use too much power during certain hours. They can just stop service or implement surge pricing if you are.
I've been a customer of 4 different electric utilities in 2 states and all of them don't even give you a choice. If you don't already have a smart meter, they will just come onto your property and install it.
Burning down the house?🤨 But to be fair that's usually the result of faulty installation rather than faulty equipment. Burning down your life's savings though, that's another matter entirely. That reputation also precedes them with mind-blowing spikes in people's utility bills for no other reason than that the meter was changed and the analog meter is allegedly just that much less accurate. You can keep it, and sketchy solar companies too for that matter.
They have been laid off in most part. The utility keeps a few around for people who choose to pay extra to keep the radios in their meters off and for meters that have a hard time communicating.
@@someguy4915 as soon as you guys learn that kph means kilo per hour, it doesn't translate like mph, if you wanted to do it right you would have either done kmph or actually right and called it km/h
in the 70's as a kid, I remember the "meter man" making his rounds in the neighborhood.
We've come a long way since then.
now in my gen z days everything is all eletronic
That's funny, a guy literally came to my house today in ireland to read our meter.
They still come here.
those meters were easy to cheat :D using a magnet can't do it with the newer ones as they have magnet sensors in them
The gas man still comes around my neighborhood.
I get more dopamine from hearing this voice than anything else. I just know the next 5 minutes are informative, intriguing, and usually satisfying. Thanks science channel
Jash here too!!!
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This voice is as iconic as the Forensic Files narrator
USCSB guy is good too
You should listen to the good older one back in the day on the discovery channel. he was the OG
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It's been aired before
How It's Made is the best show on Science Channel and Discovery Channel :D
There's a mention of the remote power disconnect feature. I'm sure employees of the utility who had to enter a property to turn off the power for non-payment of a utility bill and were confronted by a hostile customer appreciate that feature.
Yes indeed, I’m grateful I no longer have to do power cuts.
The smart meters here in France have no relay function built in, so they cannot be
used to disconnect customer supply.
All they have is a couple of dry contacts to drive your own day/night tariff relay.
in America they're still CONTACT tracing for COVID but they're not saying anything about it! nobody is talking about it or conversations are restricted! this sucks. another Bluetooth device phoning home. Google will certainly take advantage of it
bring back "the secret life of machines" that series, while dated, is what sparked the maker in my nature
I have one of these on my house. Cool to see how they make them. Thanks Science Channel
Very cool. This is how most if not all electrical devices are made.
thank you for giving it all for free such knowledge it's awessome !!!
In Hawai'i they are rolling these out in mass and the theory is when you use too much power during peek hours they can shut you off to "protect the grid"
Peek hours? Is that when you peek trough the curtains?
The term is PEAK hours.
@@patverum9051 through*
@@frostbite1991 🤣🤣
They would disconnect at the distribution substation, not individually at the meter. There’s things called “underfrequency relays” which operate automatically when generation is severely deficient.
@@jeremyloveslinux The idea behind load shedding at the meter is that you can be way more granular and instead of being limited to just what you can disconnect at the substation you can now disconnect e.g. 1/3rd of the homes you would have had to disconnect. Also in practice if they're cutting load based on current high usage then you'd be able to do way less than that as one home with the dryer running and fast charging an EV will easily draw down the same power as 10 other homes that are lightly loaded just running lights and low load appliances. They would disconnect at the substation ordinarily, part of the promise of smart meters is being able to limit outages due to load shedding to a much smaller group of homes.
Excellent video. Over what radio frequency are these messages transmitted? They don’t drive around and pick this information up. Do they connect to the Internet somehow?
Most will have a sim card and use a cellular network.
Edit: that's the standard where I live but in some cases they use RF to a nearby data collector, then that one uses some connection to pass on the data from multiple meters.
He is right. The frequency they use is close to the same frequency a garage door opener uses. The information is also encrypted so information can’t be stolen or someone outside of the company can’t kill the grid
The ones that My local utility company uses operate off of a either 850 or 900 MHz mesh network system meaning each meter acts as a repeater and then every so often there are access points mounted on the utility poles.
The only thing I hate about this type of meters is that because the housing is plastic it deteriorates
Uh I thought plastic is one of hardest materials to deteriorate? You know, that's kinda why we have so much of it in landfills and oceans. It doesn't degrade easily.
Yeah and the next 30 year that might degrade
I love How It's Made!!
in the past we had these analog disk devices where we made a very small hole parallel to the disk and inserted a needle to stop it
I used to work at a meter lab and I remember my boss telling me about a simple way that an electromechanical meter could be disabled without having to mess with magnets or anything similar, and impossible to prove tampering. All you needed was a magnifying glass (yes, I understood the theory what he was hinting at, and no, I will not share it).
@@observe_and_purport the visual inspection was usually from the distance, the distance where the numbers could be read.
many times when there was a more detailed inspection (you knew when) the plastic cover was removed very carefully (the one with the hole) and another perfect one was added with 2 points of superglue.
usually there were 2 inspectors per 2,3,4 localities and if they took a penny from each house that had this system without saying a word easy money...
I remember when humans had to do all the placement and soldering of electronic boards
When was that? Since the start of mass production of PCB based electronics there have been automated lines, before that electronic devices usually had no PCB and just ran wires from separate components which was a mess...
Wave soldering has been around far longer so there was never really a time where humans had to do all the placement and soldering on PCBs...
I remember when all wiring in electronics was point-to-point, and also when the forerunners of the circuit board began to appear in small vacuum tube radios. They were called couplets and were small, flat, sealed assemblies of perhaps 6 components inside. Typically, 6 wires came out one edge and were soldered to pins of tube sockets, and so forth.
Welcome to the brand new world
I work at one of these plants and not all lines are automated, alot of them are still done by hand and it's so tedious
@@Raviolli96Are you guys still hiring?? I just completed my Pre-apprenticeship as an electrician like 2 weeks ago and im interested into getting an intership there
one good thing about the remote disconnect we can all agree on is that the fire fighters can get the electricity shut off on their way to the fire.
Also they can easily be manipulated by the power companies to scam customers.
@@rubiconnnand hacked.
It's a whole new fail point in an already weak system, except these fail points have millions of possibilities to access.
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 european ones takl to a comms board so one way without that possibility
As cool as this is, i dont like the thought of being one misclick away from having everything in the house shut off. Which, depending on the situation, can become quite costly as both heating, fridges, lights, freezers, etc. all require power to function.
True. Every command is recorded with the user name attached to it. Only way to mistakenly disconnect someone is if the meter information is incorrect. Records are important
AHHHHHH ITS BEEN 6 YEARS SINCE I HEARD THAT INTRO!
I'd be curious to see how the analog meters were made, but it's also been a while since I've seen one.
The guy from the Applied Science RUclips channel took one apart years ago. It's a quality video, all his videos are very neat, and he has a nice demeanor to listen to.
Had no idea that’s how components were placed on a PCB
I remember those. I worked on the Itron boards in 2019
The how it's made rabbit hole let's goooo!
Then shows how much electricity used and when, making it easier to better control your energy use and it helps keep the person that use to check your meter from getting their ass kicked for disconnecting your service!!!
Or attacked by a mean dog!!
Scary that they can't disconnect and connect your electricity remotely. If in the future they decide you are using too much, they can just cut you off.....ughhhh.
they will, if you don't have enougn carbon credit score or don't take all the goverment mandated vaccines.
if they don't like what you're doing they would just go to your house and disconnect the power regardless. A smart meter making a private company turning it off remotely makes no difference.
cant speak on the distrust part, but there’s a safety aspect of it too. Wouldn’t want homes with solar pumping energy back into the grid while someone’s working on it.
Or if you tweeted something against the government...
Or if you tweeted something against the government...
Maybe someday my small town will get these
Can't wait for the Hugbees version
Anybody else notice they can just shut your power off from anywhere anytime.
Yep, originally sold to the public as a time and money saving device for the electric company....But as usual, this key piece in the electrical supply for your home has been weaponized. Why do you think the globalists want to end hydrocarbon fuels? Takes a major portion of energy away from the populus and makes them dependent on ONE source of energy that can be managed remotely.....Sorry Mr. jones, you've run your alotment of energy credits out for this month.....Your service will be restored in 16 days....Have a nice day.
Safer way to disconnect for non payment. What are your thoughts?
Using a Flipper Zero to shut off power to houses. @@Amitech77
Easy enough to defeat
Sure, but utilities can't just shut power off for no reason. You get your power shut off for non payments or tampering.
Thanks science channel
apparently these also make grandpas experts in electric devices since they make scientific claims that these emit harmful radiowaves and you can only cancel them with aluminium foil
these meters send information over cellular network and only 1 or 2 times in one day, so they emit as much radiation as sending 2 text messages
@@piezku They don't use cellular. They uses a dedicated mesh networking system to carry the data.
@@overamped23042 depends on the device / location of installation
Idk what a grandpas experts is but I can say I worked in this production facility with hundreds of other people. hundreds of these meters would be actively emitting rf at a time and it was not an issue for anyone. Which makes sense. It's all non ionizing radiation. Not any different than your cell phone or toy rc car or wireless home security system. And yes. Some of those meters use 3G 4G 5G or some other rf band. Some even communicate through the power lines themselves. Just depends on what the utility wants for whatever area.
Here in Princeton, FL, we still have the 'dumb' meters because FPL has to come out to your house to remove the meter to cut power..
Nice and informative video.
Fairly old board design, you can see the date on the program running on that old version of Windows.
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The rad scale is off the charts for this one!
I work there 😊
But what about bidirectional smart electric meters? My utility's mobile app is very nice with plenty of detail down to the hour or less with averages on delivered, received and net.
More or less the exact same thing, different circuit board maybe.
The ability to shut off your power remotely is just one of the reasons not to allow them!
most manafactures have to aprove every time it is done
Now I know how to remove those auto remote shutoffs. Free energy tap
From support
Ay yes the tamper seal because yes
I wonder if these are always really accurate or will somehow overcharge you on your bill.
Overcharging is relative, what these meters enable is monitoring how much and when you're using. Time-of-use is the major factor that will determine how hard in the pocket you will get hit.
@@WASTEOFTIMESTUDIOS At least in Germany, every energy meter, smart or not, used for billing purposes must be calibrated. No idea if the US do this too...
It requires calibration by a third party to prevent something like that. But who knows 🤷♂️ it could have happened before
@@Archer198026 *does that too.
It is grammatically considered "the US, the country", therefore singular.
@@Gavriel-og6jv Congratulations, you found an error. You can keep it, have fun with it.
this is the only announcer i regard as legitimate
Just what we need, more ways for big brother to track, monitor and control us!!
Oh you're a conspiracy theorist
@@wildlifewarrior2670 a term coined by the cia to discredit those with opposing views. And you're a sheep i guess.
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t yeah sure okay
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t oh by the way here's a novel idea don't purchase one they're listening anyway if you have a cell phone in your pocket all the time don't you
@@wildlifewarrior2670 read my words closely, it says "another way" I'm well aware of the risk to privacy cellphones pose, additionally these are often times mandatory so its not as simple as don't get one for some people. find it weird your inclination to argue this with me but I've said my piece. Take care sheep!
Now tell me how they can be unmade.
This must have been that large recalled batch the was on the news. The wrong resistance was put in to allow more power to process and read incorrectly
Now i can turn the electricity back on my self by opening this
The metal tamper evidence system is easy to bypass
more fetures not shown
I saw a solenoid controls how they turn them on and off, so with a strong enough magnet at the right location, you could bypass that
caught doing that though you would be arrested
@@dawn1berlitz most certainly but it's nice to know in case you need electricity for an emergency 👍 you can get yourself a neodymium magnet 👍
@@dawn1berlitz I mean I guess if there was an emergency you could just knock the thing off the wall and then run a jumper 🤣👍
@@rvlifestylelivin not really as they will see an outage and go to investigate it
@@dawn1berlitz it will not come up as an outage, an outage would be detected because of lack of continuity
Those capacitors look like miniature oil refinery.
Lol
Lol
Do they have new episodes of this or is this an old episode?
This is current? We use itron at work and these meters look like the ones we use.
@@Smokkedandslammed they dont change them often
Smart meters have built in cell phones. That's why electric utilities have cell phone antennas along their transmission lines and sub stations.
We use itron meters and they don't have SIM cards or communicate on cellular networks, they talk to each via a mesh network on the Zigbee protocol which in turn talks to Pole Mounted Routers (that do have SIM cards and are pole mounted) that work on a redundant network of our own internal radio communications system as well as cellular networks.
some of them do, whatever is cheapest for each situation
Your meter is monitoring you and what you are using
Yes, that is the point of an electricity meter, to meter how much electricity you use... Next up: your vacuum cleaner turns on every time you use it!...
@@someguy4915 Nah dude, they can literally tell what you're using by its power signature. I work with these meters and their associated equipment and they can %100 tell when, how, and what and you are using.
@@Smokkedandslammed Nope, they know the total power consumption, but even stuff such as power factor isn't measured, meaning they cannot differentiate what type of consumers you are using such as the difference between an old light bulb and a computer.
Something you would know if you worked '%100' with them, whatever that means.
@@Smokkedandslammed Okay, sure dude, whatever you want to believe...
The 'power signature' does not exist, at best you can guess the type of device by checking the power factor, which these meters cannot do...
Since you work with them, tell me what equipment I'm using...
@@someguy4915 Hold on, let me compute and enter some algorithms....Ok, got it....Ohhhh dang, you were right, I can't tell if you have your real doll heater plugged in or the heater for your flesh light tucked between your mattress and box spring. I can tell that what ever it is gets turned on and off a lot though...
Lol, try to OPT OUT of the smart meter. I had to get a Doctors Note, and threaten legal action to get mine removed. Now I pay a 10 a month fee for a reading, and it is always struggle on the price of the bill.
But at least I don’t have that spyware in my home.
but when an analogue one expires they put one in
Some say there is camera built in so they can see whats going on in your yard
no
We still use traditional electric meters in the Philippines unfortunately
No reason to be sorry about that. Here in Belgium we're converting to smart meters atm and there's only downsides:
- When you have solar panels, the old meters spun backwards on sunny days and forwards during the winter months. Now injection and consumption is measured separately and we get a LOT less money for the power we inject than we have to pay for the power we consume.
- The old meters just registered how much power you used and you pay a fixed price per kWh. If you had a double meter you could have a different price for daytime and nighttime use but that's it. With the smart meters they also check how you spread your usage and adjust pricing on that: slightly cheaper if you spread out your consumption... but if like most people you don't use a lot of electricity during the day and then start cooking, laundry, watching TV, using the computer all at once, you have to pay a "peak tariff" supplement
- With the old meters, if you missed a monthly payment, you got one or two free warnings before they forced you to get a payment plan, and you had to be a lot behind before they limited or shut-off the supply. With the new meters, by the time you get a second warning they already limited your supply to less than what an oven uses and they can even turn off the gas since those are "smart" now as well.
The pros are basically nothing:
- You don't have to mail in the reading and allow the meter person in every 2-4 years anymore, which isn't really a hassle at all
- You can buy a device that plugs in to the smart meter to track your energy consumption real-time, but that was already possible before by installing a metering device between the analog meter and the fusebox, ánd it wasn't really necessary before since there was no price difference between consumption and injection, nor peak tariffs...
@@Candisa many old ones billed solar too but at a cost the payment for usage at times is the tarrif you are on not the meter
@@UKsystems I think my English is pretty decent, but after reading it 5 times, I have no clue what you're saying.
@@Candisa let me break it down
old meter add solar onto number
new ones dont cost more at some times if you are clever enough to not choose that tarrif
@@UKsystems oh, here in Belgium the old meters spun backwards when the solar panels produce more than you use but you paid a fixed annual fee based on the power of the solar system. The new ones register injection separately but you only get 5-15€ct/kWh for injection while paying 30+€ct/kWh for consumption, but you don't pay a fee based on the solar system anymore. The old system was better for people who inject a lot of power during the day in the summer, but consume mostly in the evening and winter, the new system is better for people who actually use as they generate, but people who work during the day really need a battery now.
So we get to pay for the current used from these "smart" meters. Great.
@Kl Sc Source for this claim? 30w is complete bs, 2-3 watts would've been a somewhat believable claim and even that is way more than they consume.
Typical power draw would be around 0.2-0.5 watts max consumption with typically the consumption within the lower milliwatts.
no, the meter takes its power before the metering happens. and yes because ultimately all those costs get passed on. you could say that you even paid for the meter but now you don't have to pay the guy to drive around to check them.
any meter uses power
Ok, how i can steal from smart electric meter
Bro his voice is for sure AI now ngl
Prolly will be when he dies. :/
Hey just so you know it's not "Oh you didn't pay your electric bill so we are shutting off the power" it's you went over your limit for the month now we are shutting off your power until next month! Welcome to WEF 2030.
That's illogical. The power company (or the WEF if your claim is remotely true) would've stood a chance to profit more by charging more if you "went over your limit". If you're going to make a conspiracy theory, at least put "their" main intention (profit) in mind!
@@scythal It's not about profits it's about controlling people.
@@stoner2439 but more control if you pay more
2023 smart meters: automatically shuts off power to your house when you turn on 2000W vacuum cleaner from 2004.
The smart meter can't see the difference between a 2000W vacuum or a 2000W washer/hob/powertool/airconditioner/... so no, unless there's a massive grid capacity problem they won't shut down your power if you use too much of it at once, they earn a lot of money when you use a lot of electricity, stopping you from doing that when the grid allows for it would be terrible business.
Smart meters actually have no idea what appliance youre using, they only know that power is being used, if you pull 2000W for example, it dosent know if its going to 1 vaccum cleaner or 20 lightbulbs
@@lickablestinkage7783 it's unlikely someone turns on and off 20 light bulbs at the same time once or twice per week. it's a vacuum. if still in doubt, look at the power factor and you'll know it's from a motor. yeah, it's a vacuum.
New technology lcd panel and board
Didn't know they had a remote disconnect in them.
Not all of them do.
Me either, but makes sense that the option to add one could easily be added. The one-time cost of having it added to the meter could save an employee time and fuel from not having to drive out to the residence and pull the meter off, put on some little dielectric condoms over the contacts and put the meter back on (At least that's how most power companies cut power to a residence)
It wouldn't be worth it though if the meter didn't already have remote connectivity, because over their lifetime, how often do you think most meters ever have to be disconnected?
When did the narrator learn to say "robot" correctly?
I work with itron equipment. It likes to break and do weird shit. >:[
And all the benefits of this new meter goes toooooooo ......... The utility company. Remote Disconnect, No human to read meter, real time read outs. If it had even 1 benefit for the home owner, they wouldn't have done this.
Now can someone tell me how to hack it??
But the meter will never read in dollars and cents what you have used. Yeah it is really smart.....
I want to know how it's work
wireless connection.... connected by satelite? by wifi? bluetooth? or do they have a secret wireless service that if we knew, we could connect to the internet for free?
why not showing the computer that reads ( wireless) all the (hundred)thousands smart electric meters...
just asking. i'm not that smart.
4G cellular. The same network that your cellphone uses.
They sometimes also have local connectivity (usually Zigbee) to talk to other smart meters in the area, or read by a device in a moving vehicle.
This is how it assembled not how it’s Made 😅
yep it does received the messages yep thats why some peeps pays only a cents per month
Smart cut off meters
Still do.old way
never will i allow this on my land. Private companies will never have control over what i do on my own land and in my own house. How sad it makes me that people are willing to give up so many of their rights to mega-corps.
I like the Science Channel a lot but when you just put out a 5 plus minute video I'm not going to watch them and I'm going to give them a thumbs down this one's going to get a thumbs up but come on guys y'all can put out one longer than 5 minutes.
they are making itron meters
These meters also give the utility co. And Gov. The ability to control your energy usage and shut it down if you are using to much in their opinion.
Time to take your meds again buddy.
@@someguy4915 It figures you would beleve something like that. As an engineer for 40+ years know the technology, and all you need to do is take the wool off and look at all the facts, not mine. Even the power companies ane the green people have said that is their plan to control our carbon foot print.
@@richardhendel8132 I didn't say what if anything I believe, just that you should take your medication.
Funny how all you're doing is projecting onto me, some conspiracy theory on how 'big power' is going to control the world xD
Also funny how you say 'they are gonna control energy' because they said they want to reduce carbon footprint... That is the same as saying I want to take over the world because I like to eat bread.
It shows a serious disconnect within your logic, signalling that you're suffering from psychosis or some other delusion, thus it's time for your anti-psychotic medication buddy.
@@someguy4915 I can see there is no point in trying to have a useful conversation. You seem to take facts as conspiracy theory. I nearly pointed out that the technology is in place to use control this remotely, either by your phone or by the main office. I know the technology and what it can do, I worked on it.
@@richardhendel8132 Lol you aren't trying to have a useful conversation, you're just making random statements and claiming some connection between them.
Funny how you went from a 40+ year engineer to being an electrical engineer, programmer, electrician and system administrator all in one comment.
If 'big gov' or 'big power/electric' wants to turn off electricity they can already do so from the source, that would instantly drop millions into the dark, much more effective than turning millions of meters off...
Why would there by a conspiracy to turn off power to houses? Who would gain anything from that?
This is what I meant, you are talking about a conspiracy, some nonsensical rambling.
Take those meds buddy.
Who comes up with is stuff? Unreal this is possible
It's actually been around for at least 10yrs since I started working with these meters.
Theyre actually really simple devices
You do not want this at your house!
Because you don't like them or why?
@@petergibbons607 because of broken logic
How my bills are made..
Can I order a new screen, mine is VERY dim after being in the sun all day for 5 years ?
Странно, ако е известно колко консумира даден квартал, може относително да изчислим консумацията.
How it's made; babies
:p
Better tell us how we can bypass them.
By spicing into the power lines coming into your house, better not let the power company see it though, and if they see u drawing no power for a long time they might start to get suspicious
sleeping a cold winter with out electricity. when you forget to pay payment
i doubt they are allowed to do that, just sue them and then buy a mansion with the proceeds
@@petergibbons607 i didnt get you are you. liveing in UK or something ?
@@cypa3458 no i'm not from ukraine. however if they are allowed to shut you off, just use a hammer and destroy the meter and then say someone else did it.
@@petergibbons607 i asked you live in UK or something?
@@petergibbons607 im not russian im indian for anonymous presents i choice this user name
Big Brother will not use it against you 🤯🤯
It'd honestly be pretty hard being that these meters are made by private companies.
@@LugW0rm Facebook and Twitter didn't work with the government to censor the public about the Chinese Flu
They can, and one day will be, used to control electricity use.
And they already are
I question the accuracy of these.
It's very high
Very accurate.
How to hack it so it can show less electricity them we use
Not possible unless you know to scan proprietary RF and then decipher their encryption and then reprogram the meter which then it wouldn't work on the network with their program with your code and then they would just replace it with a new one.
It’s been done. Simple computer hack to the meter
Hmmmm...power company can shut power off at their will with the push of a key? Where I'm at, they can shut the power off to the AC even if you've never missed a payment. Other people get to decide the temperature of your house when no money is owed.
they will be deciding alot more soon, depending on who you vote for, what injections you take, how you speak and then how you think.
I'd like to say I'm surprised that people are stupid enough to get these installed, but it really doesn't surprise me anymore.
Ours was forced on by our utility company ever since we went solar. The utility company wouldn't allow our solar company to turn it on unless they had thier "smart solar meter" installed.. It is also the only option they had available.
PG&E gave out two options; 1. They install a smart meter. 2 They charge you a service fee every month to have someone come out and read your meter.
@@justindavis1546 I'd pay the fee. That's how they lure most people in. They create a perceived benefit. California is the first state that would weaponize this, though they're behind Europe. Once they get enough people on these, they won't have to ask you to not use too much power during certain hours. They can just stop service or implement surge pricing if you are.
I've been a customer of 4 different electric utilities in 2 states and all of them don't even give you a choice. If you don't already have a smart meter, they will just come onto your property and install it.
You don’t own the meter on your home. If you don’t like it, start generating your own power and STFU
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Burning down the house?🤨
But to be fair that's usually the result of faulty installation rather than faulty equipment. Burning down your life's savings though, that's another matter entirely. That reputation also precedes them with mind-blowing spikes in people's utility bills for no other reason than that the meter was changed and the analog meter is allegedly just that much less accurate. You can keep it, and sketchy solar companies too for that matter.
What did this mean for all the human readers??? 😞
Their jobs were probably destroyed by people like me😅
@@projectmoonlight7413 do you make circuit boards?
I remember seeing a reader take the measurements at my grandma's house. They got binoculars and a portable resit printer
@@TheNamesArif well hey praise the lord!!
They have been laid off in most part. The utility keeps a few around for people who choose to pay extra to keep the radios in their meters off and for meters that have a hard time communicating.
Windows Need update.
Smart Electric Meter or Dumb Old Electric Meter. They both know exactly how to steal your money each month.
Go off grid and see how you like that....
Make your own power through solar cells; boycott big energy utility corporates.
Not paying the bill ontime? Few keystrokes and you are back in the dark ages reading your paper with candles
If you got money for the newspaper (who still buys those?...) and candles you have money to pay your bills...
Wait til the 5G nutters get to the comments.
Wait, they’re already here. Took less than 24 hours
Please learn to pronounce solder! It’s sold-er, not sodder!
As soon as you guys learn how to spell color:)
@@pinkiepie1656 Not until you guys learn to stop calling petrol 'gas'.
@@someguy4915 brits when they dont know the difference between gasoline and petroleum (theyre not the same thing)
@@lickablestinkage7783 Americans when they don't know punctuation.
@@someguy4915 as soon as you guys learn that kph means kilo per hour, it doesn't translate like mph, if you wanted to do it right you would have either done kmph or actually right and called it km/h