I actually have an idea where they play the Rebellion over to get revenge on Palpatine. Oh and the Rebels reactivate the battle droids and reprogrammed them too.
Battle of Mustafar [Space] "Preventive Measures" "Although the Clone Wars were over, some people never seemed to get the message. The worst case of denial was Gizor Dellso, a Geonosian Separatist who'd somehow escaped Lord Vader's efforts to wipe out the remnants of the CIS. Lord Vader tracked him to Mustafar, and brought us in to finish the job. It seemed like a simple enough mission, but when we saw the fleet of droid ships, hovering over the planet, we suddenly realized that Delso's denial mechanisms were a little more dangerous than we'd imagined." "The slight whiff of nostalgia the 501st had enjoyed fighting the droid fleet over Mustafar had already grown sour by the time we'd established orbital positions. Now it was time to find out what this was all about." Battle of Mustafar "Tying up Loose Ends" "By the time we'd made our way to the molten surface of Mustafar, it was apparent that Dellso had been a busy little bug. All by his lonesome, he'd found a previously hidden droid factory, fired it up and cranked out his own private army of battle droids. Needless to say, this got the men of the 501st...a little hot under the helmet, and not just because of all that lava. Truth be told we'd all had our fill of those gear heads during the war, and we couldn't stomach the thought of going through another one. So we blew them up. Blew up the droids, blew up the factory, damn near blew up the planet." "The destruction of the mining facility put an end to any thoughts of a second droid rebellion. For the first time in years, the men of the 501st could relax, and get about the business of maintaining an Empire, rather than building one."
@@shoegazer93 Agreed. I will never forget playing it back on ps2 when I was kid. The first time I played as Darth Maul with his theme in the background was priceless.
When I hear of Tarkin's cruelty in the Empire, I wonder what was he like in the Republic outside of the very few times we got to see him in the Clone Wars show. Was he doing these terrible things then but covering it up or was he actually serving the Republic like other generals?
I think his time with the republic pushed him to what we saw in rebels and the original trilogy. He saw the republic as weak, corrupt and ineffective. There are a great many generals throughout history who started off decent enough, but eventually succumbed to easy control via horrible methods.
This is an awesome video theory I always just assumed the separatists disappeared or hid themselves after Anakin killed all the leaders, since the empire would wipe them out if ever found due to them being enemies of the republic
13:00 They were not all "Trade Federation leaders". The Trade Federation was just one of the groups that made up the Confederacy of Independent Systems, AKA the Separatist Alliance. The leaders Vader killed were from all the groups; Trade Federation, Techno Union, Banking Clan, etc.
Wish there were more battle droids that survived. Many of the later models were arguably sentient. All they need to survive is maintenance and electricity. What if a fleet went missing and escaped?
It would be super cool to see some stories from non clone stormtroopers about a terrifying squad of fully operational commando Droids or a utterly hopeless fight against a company of droideka supported by a few squads of super battle Droids
I just watched the clone wars earlier this year, and I absolutely loved the nuance that series depicted about the war. I wish they’d have shown some more of what happened politically and socially to the separatist systems after order 66. Imagine how some of them felt after their shadowy leader revealed himself to be in charge of both sides all along before siding with the enemy and quickly disbanding their army and executing their leaders leaving them literally no option but to surrender or die. They were betrayed the same as the Jedi and the citizens of the republic were. The time between Order 66 and the formation of the Rebel Alliance must’ve been heartbreaking for the individuals living on separatist planets.
Two things: 1: Tarkin and his doctrine of cruelty were the best generator of dissidents in The Empire. Even more than Palpatine. 2: Vader killed the corrupt CIS leaders that even the CIS members hated. I believe it may have been a major reason for a lot of their members to submit to The Empire; a demonstration of Palpatine's claimed desire to eliminate corruption in The Senate. As some of Rome's Emperors demonstrated, a single psycho, but both smart and intelligent, leader in charge is sometimes better than a bunch of corrupt bureaucrats.
The Antar Atrocity was the name given by the media to an operation undertaken by the Galactic Empire in which Imperial forces, led by Wilhuff Tarkin, carried out arrests, executions, and massacres on Antar 4, as punishment for Antar 4's allegiance to the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars.
I actually have an idea where they play the Rebellion over to get revenge on Palpatine. Oh and the Rebels reactivate the battle droids and reprogrammed them too.
What if it had been Grevious instead of Dooku that engaged Anakin and Obi-Wan to free the Chancellor. Maybe Dooku would have survived and seen what Palpatine really had in store for him (which was betrayal). Maybe he finds Yoda on Dagobah at some point and comes back to the light side. And/or he joins the rebellion as a High leader alongside Mon Mothma and Bail Organa.
We need a live action battle droid, still hoping for a B2 in Mando but a B1 main character would be amazing, also a tactical droid would be amazing, started building a tactical droid to scale but only done the head so far, need more irl references.
Makes me wonder what couldve been if the sequel trilogy was structured in the following way; Two states 1. The New Republic and 2. The New Confederacy are in a cold war with each other while the First Order is more of a terrorist organization trying to start another full blown war.
Omg! This is why the rebellion has so many separatist-looking ships and why they look like essentially a melting pot of people. I really enjoyed this video because I genuinly didn’t know this! I figured Palps just made them dissappear
What happened to the Separatists? They sighed afterwards then all had a slice of lemon meringue pie 🥧. And waited for Luke Skywalker to show up in a yellow jacket, black shirt, skinny brown pants, black boots, and a big silver oval belt buckle.
I know that we had the Rebles but i would love to see more of what life was like for the people after a lot of the fights went down. it would be nice to see how worse or better life got for them lol
Star Wars theory can you cover the topic of General Kalani after he left in rebels? I’ve never found anything about what he did with his squad that he took.
What if Chancellor Palpatine wasn’t a Sith Lord, but instead a very strategic mind with a genius level intellect? He would still be an ally to the Sith, but what if his plan destroyed both the Sith and Jedi while creating the Empire
A funny one, but one I have not found: what happened with the colonel after the clone wars? Did he become some kind of an imperial map reader, or something?😂😂
I knew josh was underestimating how long he’d need off. Man was acting like he didn’t have a whole human on the way 😂 hope all is well with the newborn n that nerdvengers can come back stronger than ever
I want to know who is in that test tube from that new game starwars survivor! Now that is interesting, also I want him to meet star killer! Awesome to see them both
Some of those pics from stormtroopers and rebels landing at night under terrible weather is such a good representation of what I would assume to be a majority of the battle in the SW galaxy. We get nice and pretty fluffed wars in the movies, but the reality of war even in sci fi is probably not much different than today. No vision, static and unreliable comms from massive storm systems, a planet nobody has been to, trying to exit the vehicle quickly as possible so you dont get gunned down, the only things visible are lightning and blaster bolts and you are trying to find or keep up with your squad in the chaos and friends fall all around you. Man SW has so much potential to be outstanding and instead we got Rey Cringewalker and Reva: The Annoying One
In a dark place tonight. Glad George Lucas had such a brilliant mind. And those that helped him craft his vision. Without it. This one thing. This different place. This beautiful place. I might not have much to hold onto. I’m still in the struggle. Fighting the dragon within. It is hard and it takes alot away from me and really pours when it rains. But I’ve fought this fight before. Sometimes you just have to. Goodluck to anyone else out there struggling with their mental. May the force be with you.
I think Star Wars Battlefront II game (campaign mode) touch on that subject by explaining the Post-Clone Wars Era when The New Galactic Empire quell the rest of what was left of The Separatists, who were now known as "The Droid Rebellion", and destroy the Droid facility on Mustafar and killed the Genesoian leader.
I was looking forward for seeing these droids in Kenobi show, but we didn’t get that & that’s fine… Maybe in Andor since we’re also getting Clones… Maybe even Quinlan Vos recruited them.
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It would be great if there were more dedicated stories about the CIS remnants aiding the Rebellion
Agreed
I actually have an idea where they play the Rebellion over to get revenge on Palpatine.
Oh and the Rebels reactivate the battle droids and reprogrammed them too.
Andors parents are separatists
I wish there were a Count Dooku series or movie, before the Prequel
@@karbonkilo There’s actually a book called Jedi Lost about Qui-Gon and Sifo Dias.
I think my favorite leader ever was General Kallani. The fact that he was smart enough to survive on his own after the Clone Wars was just incredible
Just finished the Onderon Arc of TCW and I can say that he’s my second favorite separatist general next to Trench
Mine too. It took me a while to realize he was the same droid as the one in Rebels, but once I did it made me love him so much
Relax man
Battle of Mustafar [Space] "Preventive Measures"
"Although the Clone Wars were over, some people never seemed to get the message. The worst case of denial was Gizor Dellso, a Geonosian Separatist who'd somehow escaped Lord Vader's efforts to wipe out the remnants of the CIS. Lord Vader tracked him to Mustafar, and brought us in to finish the job. It seemed like a simple enough mission, but when we saw the fleet of droid ships, hovering over the planet, we suddenly realized that Delso's denial mechanisms were a little more dangerous than we'd imagined."
"The slight whiff of nostalgia the 501st had enjoyed fighting the droid fleet over Mustafar had already grown sour by the time we'd established orbital positions. Now it was time to find out what this was all about."
Battle of Mustafar "Tying up Loose Ends"
"By the time we'd made our way to the molten surface of Mustafar, it was apparent that Dellso had been a busy little bug. All by his lonesome, he'd found a previously hidden droid factory, fired it up and cranked out his own private army of battle droids. Needless to say, this got the men of the 501st...a little hot under the helmet, and not just because of all that lava. Truth be told we'd all had our fill of those gear heads during the war, and we couldn't stomach the thought of going through another one. So we blew them up. Blew up the droids, blew up the factory, damn near blew up the planet."
"The destruction of the mining facility put an end to any thoughts of a second droid rebellion. For the first time in years, the men of the 501st could relax, and get about the business of maintaining an Empire, rather than building one."
The very best Star Wars game ever IMO
@@shoegazer93 Agreed. I will never forget playing it back on ps2 when I was kid. The first time I played as Darth Maul with his theme in the background was priceless.
Juno Eclipse, mmmm 😏
@@georgehouliaras7239 I don't recognise this game, which one is it?
@@mamienovacuisine The original Star Wars Battlefront 2, it was made back on 2005 around the the same time Episode 3 came out.
It would be very awesome to see the separatist droid army and the rebels to stand up against the empire
I’ve always thought about this. They’ve just sorta… disappeared. Anakin killed all the leaders so I guess that explains the fall of the army.
Yes. There is a scene of Anakin and sidious, sidious was like “contact the trade federation and shut down the driods”
When I hear of Tarkin's cruelty in the Empire, I wonder what was he like in the Republic outside of the very few times we got to see him in the Clone Wars show. Was he doing these terrible things then but covering it up or was he actually serving the Republic like other generals?
I think his time with the republic pushed him to what we saw in rebels and the original trilogy. He saw the republic as weak, corrupt and ineffective. There are a great many generals throughout history who started off decent enough, but eventually succumbed to easy control via horrible methods.
Ironic how the loyalists and separatists joined forces.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Loved the Seperatists/Trade Fed/Techno-Union/Banking-Clans since 1999 TPM. We need more of these stories, really AWESOME narration Theory👌
I enjoy seeing more about the seperatists and the government side of things.
I can't imagine not seeing some of this play out in Andor. A massive missed opportunity if it doesn't.
This is an awesome video theory I always just assumed the separatists disappeared or hid themselves after Anakin killed all the leaders, since the empire would wipe them out if ever found due to them being enemies of the republic
13:00 They were not all "Trade Federation leaders". The Trade Federation was just one of the groups that made up the Confederacy of Independent Systems, AKA the Separatist Alliance. The leaders Vader killed were from all the groups; Trade Federation, Techno Union, Banking Clan, etc.
Wish there were more battle droids that survived. Many of the later models were arguably sentient. All they need to survive is maintenance and electricity. What if a fleet went missing and escaped?
It would be super cool to see some stories from non clone stormtroopers about a terrifying squad of fully operational commando Droids or a utterly hopeless fight against a company of droideka supported by a few squads of super battle Droids
In a universe where the prequels were the originals, we would have droids helping the rebels
Sounds pretty cool
What if Yoda arrived to late with the Clones to save the Jedis at Geonosis? Would The Separatists last longer and replace The Empire?
One thing to remember is that Darth sidious (palpatine) was orchestrating the whole war behind the scenes
I just watched the clone wars earlier this year, and I absolutely loved the nuance that series depicted about the war. I wish they’d have shown some more of what happened politically and socially to the separatist systems after order 66. Imagine how some of them felt after their shadowy leader revealed himself to be in charge of both sides all along before siding with the enemy and quickly disbanding their army and executing their leaders leaving them literally no option but to surrender or die. They were betrayed the same as the Jedi and the citizens of the republic were. The time between Order 66 and the formation of the Rebel Alliance must’ve been heartbreaking for the individuals living on separatist planets.
Two things:
1: Tarkin and his doctrine of cruelty were the best generator of dissidents in The Empire. Even more than Palpatine.
2: Vader killed the corrupt CIS leaders that even the CIS members hated. I believe it may have been a major reason for a lot of their members to submit to The Empire; a demonstration of Palpatine's claimed desire to eliminate corruption in The Senate. As some of Rome's Emperors demonstrated, a single psycho, but both smart and intelligent, leader in charge is sometimes better than a bunch of corrupt bureaucrats.
Could you imagine if Andor shows us exactly what you just talked about? That would be a good show in my opinion
It is such a pity that you never see battle droids and sentient beings fighting alongside against the stormtroopers
I hope a lot of this is answered in TBB. Seeing Captain Rex and a Tactical Droid work together alongside each other against Stormtroopers and AT-ATs
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Awesome video General Theory 🤘
The Antar Atrocity was the name given by the media to an operation undertaken by the Galactic Empire in which Imperial forces, led by Wilhuff Tarkin, carried out arrests, executions, and massacres on Antar 4, as punishment for Antar 4's allegiance to the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars.
“The war is over… lord sidious promised us peace “
Never underestimate your fallen enemies, even if they end up becoming your ally.
These bits of lore always intrigue me.
I really wondered what happened to the CIs
* An Update to this for Jedi Survivor * The Battle Droids were also used by the new Bedlam Raiders, and easily chopped down.
i always thought Anakin killed most of them on Mustafar. despite their differences the 2 groups came together to fight the empire.
Separatist holdouts made a great story arc for original battlefront 2
Wow again the research and videos you do is insane love your channel nobody better
I love to think that the Separatist would've joined the rebellion if Count didnt gather them for the clone wars
I actually have an idea where they play the Rebellion over to get revenge on Palpatine.
Oh and the Rebels reactivate the battle droids and reprogrammed them too.
I hope they bring back Garm Bel Iblis one day, always liked his character in the Legends EU
What if it had been Grevious instead of Dooku that engaged Anakin and Obi-Wan to free the Chancellor. Maybe Dooku would have survived and seen what Palpatine really had in store for him (which was betrayal). Maybe he finds Yoda on Dagobah at some point and comes back to the light side. And/or he joins the rebellion as a High leader alongside Mon Mothma and Bail Organa.
Why wouldn't the Rebellion use droids?
We need a live action battle droid, still hoping for a B2 in Mando but a B1 main character would be amazing, also a tactical droid would be amazing, started building a tactical droid to scale but only done the head so far, need more irl references.
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You should do What If Darth Plagueis awoke from his sleep and killed Palpatine.
Makes me wonder what couldve been if the sequel trilogy was structured in the following way; Two states 1. The New Republic and 2. The New Confederacy are in a cold war with each other while the First Order is more of a terrorist organization trying to start another full blown war.
Omg! This is why the rebellion has so many separatist-looking ships and why they look like essentially a melting pot of people. I really enjoyed this video because I genuinly didn’t know this! I figured Palps just made them dissappear
The Trade Federation alone would have been a major faction in the ongoing battles for power after the fall of The Republic.
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That was interesting. I thought Anakin had killed all the separatist leaders on Mustafar.
What happened to the Separatists? They sighed afterwards then all had a slice of lemon meringue pie 🥧. And waited for Luke Skywalker to show up in a yellow jacket, black shirt, skinny brown pants, black boots, and a big silver oval belt buckle.
I know that we had the Rebles but i would love to see more of what life was like for the people after a lot of the fights went down. it would be nice to see how worse or better life got for them lol
We might see some in Jedi survivor
Given the leaks we were given from it.
Star Wars theory can you cover the topic of General Kalani after he left in rebels? I’ve never found anything about what he did with his squad that he took.
Reys family lineage should have been linked to the CIS.
What did CIS do after all of that? They called Saul.
I loved the CIS and what happened to them. They were actually right, Dooku and Palpatine just re organised it.
What if Chancellor Palpatine wasn’t a Sith Lord, but instead a very strategic mind with a genius level intellect? He would still be an ally to the Sith, but what if his plan destroyed both the Sith and Jedi while creating the Empire
To quote Ben Shapiro, “count dooku is not a villain, he is a free trade libertarian”
A funny one, but one I have not found: what happened with the colonel after the clone wars?
Did he become some kind of an imperial map reader, or something?😂😂
I knew josh was underestimating how long he’d need off. Man was acting like he didn’t have a whole human on the way 😂 hope all is well with the newborn n that nerdvengers can come back stronger than ever
Do red Kyber Crystals affect their owners in any way? Like incresed aggression or something when someone wears one as a talisman?
A busy little bug from Geonosis, Gizor Delso fired up the droid factory again in the Battlefront 2 (2005) campaign. Is that canon?
Legends
I want to know who is in that test tube from that new game starwars survivor! Now that is interesting, also I want him to meet star killer! Awesome to see them both
Some of those pics from stormtroopers and rebels landing at night under terrible weather is such a good representation of what I would assume to be a majority of the battle in the SW galaxy. We get nice and pretty fluffed wars in the movies, but the reality of war even in sci fi is probably not much different than today. No vision, static and unreliable comms from massive storm systems, a planet nobody has been to, trying to exit the vehicle quickly as possible so you dont get gunned down, the only things visible are lightning and blaster bolts and you are trying to find or keep up with your squad in the chaos and friends fall all around you. Man SW has so much potential to be outstanding and instead we got Rey Cringewalker and Reva: The Annoying One
Can you make a video about New Republic? I would like to know more about it
In a dark place tonight. Glad George Lucas had such a brilliant mind. And those that helped him craft his vision. Without it. This one thing. This different place. This beautiful place. I might not have much to hold onto. I’m still in the struggle. Fighting the dragon within. It is hard and it takes alot away from me and really pours when it rains. But I’ve fought this fight before. Sometimes you just have to. Goodluck to anyone else out there struggling with their mental. May the force be with you.
I'm not used to no nerd theory 🤣
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I think Star Wars Battlefront II game (campaign mode) touch on that subject by explaining the Post-Clone Wars Era when The New Galactic Empire quell the rest of what was left of The Separatists, who were now known as "The Droid Rebellion", and destroy the Droid facility on Mustafar and killed the Genesoian leader.
Could you remake what if quigonjinn survived his encounter with darth maul
In rebel where are there ?
isn’t Star Wars lore just amazing, I completely forget that I’m litsening to something made up
Currently working on Expanded Universe lore about CIS remnant forces massing and rebuilding either in Wild Space or the Unknown Regions.
Affirmative. Order acknowledgment. ♠️🟥
Really ?
why didn't the Separatists continue to use and make droids?
Why have you never done any video on what if ahsoka never left the Jedi Order?
What comic is the shot of Vader in a Eta-2 Actis-class light interceptor from???
Confederate Independent… i’ve seen this sort of thing before.
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Anakin killed them on mustafar
Big enough to rival the hutts ? Big enough to rival the Republik and they were also in the core
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do more what ifs
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I was looking forward for seeing these droids in Kenobi show, but we didn’t get that & that’s fine… Maybe in Andor since we’re also getting Clones… Maybe even Quinlan Vos recruited them.
What happened to your twitter theory?
Its like america trying to separate from britain with the aid from the mother of democracy, france
Roger Roger!
What is Obi Wan lost to Grievous? Please make this top comment we need this video
The Doids where shut down
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Love your vids but Disney probably redconned all of this in a few years…
I think we can all agree we want a live action sci-fi (no modern woke bs) true to the universe we fell in love with fleshed out.
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Duh; Order 67.
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