Yeah, manga is great. I’m currently reading Monster by Naomi Urasawa. It’s about a surgeon that saves a young boy, that boy becomes a serial killer, the surgeon feeling responsible, now has to hunt the killer down. It’s Silence of the Lambs meets The Fugitive.
I really wish that show got a full dvd release. Viz started to release Monster about a decade ago, but couldn't finish it due to weird licensing issues.
The 5th best-selling manga in Japan is a story about volleyball. How's that for comics? I used to have a "It's just weird" attitude towards manga, but then I learned more about it, saw it for what it really was. All of this I discovered not long ago, after the comics let me down. So I guess Marvel and DC's failures did something right. Once I started reading those stories (the mangas I liked), I realized there are places that respected me as a customer. I watched PopCross' Artist reacts to Manga Art series on YT. That's when I realized manga artists put sweat and blood into their work, that's art. Whereas in comics from their creators I see a lot of, "You're lucky I even bothered to walk up to the printer," behavior.
@Chí Thiện Nguyễn Yeah but then my friend told me about the Penis-Headed Monsters that would come later on and I thought, "Nope,". It doesn't seem like my type of book. I have lots of admirantion for the author, though. The art in the later volumes is jawdroppingly masterful and I wish the book pulled me in so that I could've seen it in all its glory.
I didn't fully realize that people were criticizing manga/anime for not having LGBTQ representation. That's the most baffling take to me. When I was in middle school, outside of Alison Bechdel, Alan Moore, Howard Cruse, or the Vertigo Comics line, comics with regular LGBTQ representation weren't incredibly common. Outside of books, the first series with gay themes I ever read were all mangas. Series like Finder, Gravitation, No. 6, Cardcaptor Sakura, Sailor Moon, or Black Butler (to name the barest few). Anime likewise had LGBTQ content readily available. I think it's one of the reasons I find the celebratory attitude some of the marketing takes whenever Marvel or DC introduces an LGBTQ character so cringy and off-putting. Manga and anime have been doing this for a long time now and they're not looking for someone to pat them on the back. Maybe we shouldn't be too surprised that an industry that embraces fan service is able to find a healthy amount of success. Also, the LGBTQ representation in manga and anime doesn't always take itself so seriously. Yes, there's space to have more grounded and serious stories, like Nagata Kabi's "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" or "The Heart of Thomas" by Moto Hagio to more silly and light-hearted fares. Also, fabulous gay villains are still a common thing, and I love gay villains.
Akimi Yoshida is a popular manga artists in Japan for a long time and she is known for drawing gay stories. Her popular manga "Banana Fish" was serialized from 1985 to 1994 on a girls' manga magazine and it was currently animated. ruclips.net/video/jgup5Iear2I/видео.html You can see how girls at the comment section react. Akimi Yoshida naturally draw her manga like that so the readers naturally enjoy her stories as well ( I mean she doesn't have any agenda to preach people, she just likes to tell stories like that).
There's this funny story I heard about a kid growing up in a diverse neighbourhood, he goes to a kindergarten school where there're black kids, latino kids, asian kids all mixed in. This kid is asked to describe the first thing that comes to mind about his best friend, and he says his best friend is very tall. The best friend he points to is black. That's a kid who haven't been taught racial biases yet. It never occurred to him that the skin color could make his friend more different to him than height does. That's how want your diverse representations to be received. You don't want to draw attention to how your diverse characters are intrinsically different and alien to your readers. The gayness, queerness, blackness, etc... are not meant to be exotic traits to make your characters stand out. In the real world, those traits are used to create divisions. Meanwhile, it's very common to see manga readers not realizing how diverse the cast of characters in manga are until somebody points it out to them. That's the ideal state of diverse representation - when your readers look past the differences between them and the characters on the page to find relatability.
One of the reasons why is that to a lot of people, shonen = all of manga. They might not like shonen, dont know or dont care to know theres a sea of stuff that is nothing like shonen, and just conclude that they dont like all manga ( Ridiculous statement as manga is an enormous medium). Then theres people who use the word "cringe". Do not take those people seriously.
It doesn’t help that Shonen isn’t really a genre, but a demographic, and it’s WAY more then just battles and superpowers. Stuff like Welcome to the Ballroom and Smile Down the Runway, two manga that are about ballroom dancing and fashion, to be targeted at the Shonen demographic but there they are.
@@PhantomOfTheKnight Thank You! Some of my favorite shounen titles are simple wacky comedies like High School Kimengumi or the wackier scifi/romantic comedy fusions like Urusei Yatsura (from the author who gave us Ranma 1/2 and Inuyasha).
Pride. It's stupid. I love DC and Marvel. I just don't respect the business model. They literally cannot succeed using the Direct Market and having these endless reboots and universal events. It's shockingly inept. I mocked anime and manga endlessly... until I started actually reading manga. The quality is multiple, multiple levels over DC and Marvel now. It's not even close. The only reason people talks about comic book characters at all is because of the Marvel movies. No one reads the comics. It's not even an industry. Stuff is produced but very few end users/consumers actually buy it.
Not pride for me. I don't write or draw the books. I am however completely vested in these characters and universes since childhood. There is a certain amount of emotional attachment and care to see where they go. I don't care for manga. If and when I do feel like reading something outside of the superhero sphere or just something different there are plenty of novels on whatever genre I want that I'd rather read over any manga.
I might going out on a limb here but I think the problem is that a lot of people (specifically in the English speaking market mainly US fans from what I noticed) can't wrap their heads around the concept of comics or cartoons having different genres or at least more than 3. I think that's why the US comic industry is dominated mainly by superhero titles while other parts of the world namely Japan and Europe has so many different genres, tackling different themes and that attracts many different audiences or markets.
@@apolloman1608 and yet many people still have that perception that manga is "this and only this", in fact when you look at manga that sell big in the US it's mostly Shounen action titles like MHA, One Piece and DBZ, there are a few exceptions like Attack On Titan, which is more of a monster comic on paper and Sailor Moon manga but AOT is still has a lot of that Shounen feel and SM sells because the anime is super popular in the US Anime fandom.
I'm not surprised. True, most people who are exposed to American comics or western cartoons see only action, horror, romance, fantasy as genres available. And superheroes/mutants/vampires/werewolves as the ones who have superpowers. They think that beyond those genres or types of characters are impossible. And what comes to mind also is that the music genre on the American cartoons and kids series. You.only.hear.rock and upbeat music. When you watch anime the OST that accompanies it is so musically diverse, the music can be mellow/ballad, rock, pop and whatever music genre you can think of.
@@JoJoOnRUclips I think there's more pre conceived ideas of American comics than manga at this point. When people think American comics it's only DC and Marvel and they only publish one genre of comic. It's a shame but the industry done this to itself.
I used to think that I would never be into Manga. Conflated Manga with Shonen only. I liked Anime like Akira and Robotech but I wasn’t exposed to any Manga other than Shonen-style. That was in the 90’s. Now though it is so much easier to find a wide variety of Manga either at book stores, comic shop, or library. Do not dismiss it or overlook it or you are missing out. You don’t have spend a bunch of money. You can try different types of Manga from the library or just hang out at Barnes and Noble for a few hours and read for free. Find the stuff you like (it is out there) and start buying. In the last three years I’ve bought Akira box set, books by Junji Ito, Shintaro Kago, Osamu Tezuka, Yoshihiro Tatsumi, and Shuzo Oshimi. I also binged the entire I Am A Hero series and the first couple Barefoot Gen books from my local library.
I have a hard time to bring myself to try out new things and I have not read a ton if different Manga but with "Madd in Abyss" I alrady found the Manga that is fore me. I love that series. Both the Anime and the Manga. It preses all the right buttons on me. The writing feels like magic to me.
@You murdered that guy Yeah, that's a real cultural issue in Japan. I can see that being a barrier for entry into manga just generally. A lot of the more gendered interactions in a lot of manga and anime would be considered incredibly tasteful by western standards(or even criminal).
I personally think just about everyone should read Akira because it's important, influential work and it's not too much of an investment as it's a finite series. And I've been loving diving into the horror works of Junji Ito, which includes just some of the best horror related comics that have come out in the 21st century.
I recommend Otomo's Domu over Akira to people; similar in quality and tone, just shorter. If they dig it, then it's easy to point them at the long, dense works like Akira, Ghost in the Shell and Lone Wolf & Cub.
The thing that strikes me is the number of people who say they tried manga and didn't like it, then when you ask them what they read it's a volume or two of one or two titles. On the basis of that you've formed an opinion on that entire side of the comics industry? Nuts. Imagine the results if you did the same thing with a handful of Western trades and that was your total experience with Western comics. You might strike lucky, but odds are you'd think the whole field was trash. There's way more garbage out their than good stuff, East or West, but there's a manga *and* a comic out there for everyone. Need to put in the effort to find it, that's all - and gods know you'll find plenty of helpful recs from fans online to point you in the right direction to start. EDIT: "Anime adaptations match the manga pretty well..." Bold, bold words, Perch. Some of them are way better than others at that - and gods help you if Four Kids got involved in the localization. :)
One of the trickiest things in regards to both recommending and what people generally see in manga is only stuff’s that’s been licensed (or at least has an anime adaptation) and many other series still being available only in Japan, so what’s properly available in a legal manner is very limited.
Though I have a feeling that popular manga like the depressing high school shoujou title Oniisama...e (Dear Brother) (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Brother) or the lighthearted slice of life cooking seinen manga Cooking Papa (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_Papa) wouldn't find much of an audience among US comic readers especially compared to action shounen titles like DBZ, MHA or Demon Slayer.
Which manga are you talking about? There's been a lot of manga released in the past 20+ years. Viz, Dark Horse, and even Vertical have released a lot of non-shounen/shojou manga over the years. Manga and anime have become so popular, that they're even releasing light novels now. As someone who's been reading manga for more than 20 years, the idea that there isn't any manga you could recommend is a bit silly.
@@kidicarus2215 though it's mostly shounen action titles that are selling big numbers and outperforming superhero titles in the US comic market. I don't see a lot of Shojou or Senein titles doing that at least according to sources like Amazon bestseller lists for graphic novels.
@@Elementa2006 Why do they have to outsell shounen titles though? The very fact that seinen, shoujou, and josei titles, are available at Amazon or Barnes & Noble at all, is an insane accomplishment. 30 years ago, you'd be hard pressed to find anything outside of a handful of manga titles outside of Akira, Lone Wolf & Cub, and maybe Ghost In The Shell in comic shops. The fact that they're releasing seinen/mature manga in omnibus format, through major outlets, is something that I never thought would happen.
Except I personality found Fist of the North Star to be a more enjoyable read than your typical 90s comics especially Youngblood which to put in more nicer manner, I don't care for. Although I do like 90s comics like Savage Dragon and Spawn.
When I was younger, in France, we were lucky to be able to get American comics and Japanese comics quite easily (even more now), even in the late 80s and early 90s. I was part of those guys who read both European comics, Amercian comics and Japanese ones too. When I talked to people only liking one of them, it was fun to notice this kind of weird triangle with: One third thought every manga was the same about violence, big eyes and feminine guys. One third thought every European comics was the same with not funny dad jokes, big noses and old-ish colors and narration. The last third thought the American comics were all about muscled men in tights, scantilly clad women and USA first go, go, go. Of course, each of those one groups always thought the others were only thinking in stereotypes ;-)
@@uiron5755 Sadly, I couldn't really tell you. I'm mostly focusing on comics and my friends get the mangas... budget wise, it's hard to go in every directions (because there is also video games and boardgames to buy and boy do I love trying new restaurant and foods too ^^) and I do miss someone who would be taking care of the european comics part. What I can tell you though, when I look at them in the library is they incorporated a lot of foreign influences as many "new" creators grew up reading/watching japanese/american comics/movies. Other than that, it's very much an industry, meaning you'll have waves of the same kind of story as long as someone proved it worked and should be imitated. I could try to give you some maine theme but I'd probably be wrong or just give you stuff that were real 10 to 15 yeas a go... so not very accurate. From the few facebook posts I can read coming from French comics creator, it seems to have all the stereotypes of "only a few manage to live quite well off of it, while th 95% others struggle for minimum wage" or so. But, then again, it's been a while since I talked to someone on "the inside" so take my words with a grain of salt. Well sorry, I guess I wrote a big chunk of text just to say I couldn't give you much hindsight... Gomenasai ;-)
To be honest I'm just superheroes fan When I can find superhero stuff I will follow I read mangas too My Hero Academia One Punch Man Ultraman Kinnikuman Dragon Ball Super And I watch Kamen Rider and Super Sentai too
I had trouble with some of the art style at first because I was use to more “realistic” art and I preferred colored pages rather than black and white. But dang the stories are so much better.
Manga is like movies, in that they cover all genres and they all follow a very dynamic and action filled drawing style. After all the first manga produced was an attempt to make Disney movies in comic shape.
A few genre recommendations, for anyone interested: Mystery-thriller portion of some Batman stories: 20th Century Boys (or anything else by Naoki Urasawa) Artsy indie OGN stuff like Iscariot or Pistouvi: Oyasumi Pun Pun (or any other Inio Asano series) More adult superhero content like an Immortal Hulk or a Hellblazer: Vampire Hunter D Dark Sci Fi action like Oblivion Song or Low: Gantz Evolutionary fantasy epics like The Last God: Claymore
Gentle, the "smooth criminal" youtuber, is actually a really great "villain". The best example of the fallen villain akin to Two-Face. Overall, manga is amazing with a wide variety of genres and stories that I personally believe has way more quality in comparison to the western comics.
As someone who got into American comics long after I got into manga, there's so much more variety in the stortelling in manga. If I had to compare it to something in the American comics industry it has much more in line with the indies than anything else. Some of my favorites have been... One Piece: An epic tale of comradery, altruism and perseverance, featuring a crew of lovable, incredibly developed characters and a vast, lived-in world. Incredible attention to detail, long-term payoffs decades in the making, and subtle gags that people only notice years later (in addition to more overt ones). Akira: No description of this one is going to do it justice. This is the Watchmen of manga. Wholesale destruction that will leave you in awe, immensely-satisfying character-writing, and an outright fascinating backdrop of a dystopian alternate future involving pseudo-nuclear development. Chainsawman: A lovely story full of broken, dysfunctional people trying to survive and learn to be people in a world where the next day could very well be their last. Demons, demon hunters, and a body count that would make Quentin Tarantino proud. The art is at times incredibly detailed with a variety of shading techniques, and at others scratchy in an incredibly emotive way. Vagabond: Taking old samurai/western films to heart, this is just as exhilarating as those old classics, with some excellent philosophical beats to boot. Brush pen art with lifelike detail, fantastic emotion, and gorgeous double-page spreads.
I personally feel like a lot of the criticism that can be applied to the resistance from manga and/or comic readers to read new content from the other side is equal. In the same way many comic readers assume all manga is shonen, many manga readers assume that American comics are all superhero when there’s loads of stuff to enjoy on both sides. While I’ve consumed a lot of anime with a much greater preference for American comics generally, there’s so much amazing content to be read on both sides and it’s a shame so many people are unwilling to just enjoy it all. On a semi-related level, it would be super nice to have there be adaptations of comics that are as accurate as a lot of manga out there that can appeal to all ages. I’m hoping Invincible is not only another great stepping stone in further adaptations of indie comics, but also a step in giving more American comics the anime treatment. I think it would bring in a lot more readership all around like it has for manga readers. Great Video, Perch! Never commented before, but love all the videos!
People watch guys like him so they don't have to read the comics. They do it to keep in touch with the characters that they'll be seeing in movies. That's all.
@@StratumPress Yeah a few years ago I'd just put on one of his hour long videos and passively listen to it while doing more interesting things. I never did that with properties I cared about.
I’ll be honest, I was the same with Anime at first. The only ones I’d seen at the time was Dragon Ball Z and Pokémon. Not that I hate them, I just didn’t get into them and didn’t watch Anime for a long time. Then I watched the movies from Studio Ghibli, My Neighbour Totoro especially showed a much more whimsical yet somehow more mature story that I could easily get into. It’s like when people look down on Comics. You probably haven’t seen how great it could be if you just look deeper. **Edit I still like Shonen type anime too though.
To anyone who is hesitant about trying out manga but want to read a dark story with a somewhat comic type art style I recommend reading Berserk. It's not for the faint of heart but the story is insanely well written and it might give you a different perspective on what manga as a whole actually is and could be. You don't have to, but I fully recommend it!
When I lived in Japan, as a student, I was warned about "Z Culture." Everyone I knew looked down on anime fans. But, a lot of people liked Spider-Man. Both the Japanese and American versions. I think manga is different from Western comics. What I mean by that is the Japanese view magna differently than Westerners view comics.
How could people think Dragon Ball Z is the best anime/manga there is to offer? LMAO. To Your Eternity is a multi-era fantasy series that questions lie, death, and what it means to be human. And that's shonen.
People, like me, grew up with Dbz and are bias because of it. It was also my favorite manga at one point. Now that I’ve exposed myself with other manga, my love for dbz has decreased, but oh man do I cherish those childhood memories with it!
Manga is likely now in a similar situation as anime was in the 90's and early 00's, there are things that get a lot of traction but they don't necessarily represent the medium. This is exacerbated by manga being distributed in the West using a book model as opposed to the anthology periodical model that actually dictates a lot of how they're read where they are created. I think the biggest factor in the rise of manga in the West is little more than straight up oikophobia tbh
They tried to distribute them in periodical form and it didn’t last. The U.S. Shonen Jump magazine got discontinued in physical form and only exists digitally now. And Shojo Beat magazine got discontinued completely.
Manga is growing everywhere in the world. Is everyone suffering from oikophobia? Besides, US comics are losing market even where they are not native, so wouldn't that be against the oikophobia argument?
If all you know about Japan is from Toonami and action isn't your thing look into comedy manga like My Senpai is Annoying. Office workplace humor is pretty universal. Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid just keeps getting funnier every volume. Spy x Family is probably the best new manga series that came out last year. If you like slapstick comedy with lots of cute girls... and boobs. Seriously. Lots of boobs: Read Monster Musume. The one series where there is no wrong answer to "best girl".
In 2020 manga garned $15.59 billion Japan alone. Whereas in "the best year for comics" in 2019, the North American market garned $1.21 billion. And they had to dump manga, crowdfunding, web comics, newstand etc. to boost those numbers up.
I think it's partly because of toxic seriousness. They can't get over how attractive and cute manga looks (yes, even the dramatic/serious ones. You can't tell me Demon Slayer doesn't look cute. But it simultaneously also looks badass and manly. There is no conflict). Seriously, I often see this point whenever the topic comes up "it looks like it's for little kids" or something.
There is occasionally a case for manga, as part of the anime universe; but most of the time it should be taken alone and on its own. Alita: Battle Angel is perfect as an example. The manga wasn’t horrible but gave us very little information to inform as to Alitas’ background and backstory. GUNNM was more of the same, in many ways. The Alita: Battle Angel movie, not only gave the viewer a better read on Alita as a character and person, but now we had a believable back story and history for Alita. In this case (and happens more often than some believe) the movie vindicated everything that came before... ... and was a better story to boot.
@@linusgustafsson2629 Alita began as a manga in 1990. Mars Chronicle began in 2014. I think 24-years is far too long a wait to expand the manga. As I said the meaningful backstory for Alita very much needed the movie.
Keep the videos coming Perch! I value your level-headed, at times sarcastic takes, in and revolving around comics and the industry. In fact, I prefer you videos over the bigger comic RUclipsrs, because you don't have Click Bait titles and Hot Takes in order to get views. Plus, Perch + RUclips = Fun!
Uzumaki, vagabond, gundam, just started legends of the galactic heroes, Tokyo ghoul, hunter hunter, full metal al, one piece, cowboy bepop, samurai champlu, tri gun, helsing and a plethora others big two comics could never.
I started in manga way back in the mid 90s. The publisher was Studio Prometheus, long before they became part of Dark Horse. I started with Apple Seed, Black Magic, No Need for Tenchi, and Ah My Goddess. Gunsmith Cats Is still one of my favorite crime and bounty hunter mangas. While fighting mangas are not really my cup of tea, I did enjoy the Naruto books (all 70 some odd of them). The thing I love the most about mangas is the discipline in story telling and world building. No matter how extreme the world in the manga, the story told works within the framework of that world. The characters actions and decisions are formed and guided by the world created. Another aspect I like is most manga will keep the same creative team from start to finish. There are excepts, but the mangas in my personal collection run from a minimum of two volumes to 30 or 40. The series will have the same writer and artist for its entire run. In my personal collection I have science fiction, fantasy, slice of life, crime dramas, and lesbian romance. The range of content is breathtaking. And I still buy Supergirl, Batgirl, Batwoman, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn.
TL;DR You’re doing great, keep up the good work man. The longer version: Glad the numbers make you happy perch, they make me happy too! I also *really* appreciate that you put out as many videos as you do- your takes are encouraging and logical/levelheaded (which is a pleasure to listen to on its own, something about the grounded-ness of your takes is... soothing? In a world where everyone is vying for the hot take, a room temperature take is nice), and the 10-20 min videos are great timing wise, enough time to dig in to ideas, yet not too long to where it gets repetitive or boring! The occasional longer videos are fine, sometimes you need 40 min and those are good too, but your typical video being 10-20 is great. Lastly, it’s honestly kinda great that you leave in the car/ambient sounds of you doing other things, since I listen while I’m doing other things, it makes it feel like we are doing other things together, making it feel more conversational. That’s all to say, ignore what the dude said, there’s many of us (I assume I’m not the only one?) that really enjoy the way you present your thoughts and content!
I have rarely encountered a story as good as Kenshin. That's the thing. It has a beginning, a middle and an end. It's not intended to be infinitely extensible.
people look its not that difficult of a concept Berserk and Lady Death both exist, The Crow and Vagabond Exist, Predator and Hellsing Exist...like there are great stories and gorgeous artwork that are Bad A** in both manga and comics. It doesn't matter if your name is Brian Pulido or Junji Ito the passion is there. So my advice if you know what you love then go out and find it because it is undoubtedly waiting for you. 分かりますか？
I don't mind reading manga but I think I get more out of the story when I get the visuals, sound/music, color, and movement of anime all working together. If there's is no choice but to read the manga if you want the story I have no problem doing that but for now I'm always going to try the anime first. Though I may end up trying more manga that don't have anime now, recently watched Berserk and after that ending I felt I had no choice but to start reading the manga.
To be honest, I have never met anyone who refused to read a manga. Manga has more genres and a more organize way of Storytelling. There are different genres in Magna, Kodomo are children, Shonen are for teen boys, Shojo are for teen girls, seinen are for young adult men, josei are for young adult women. And to clean your own these examples, mangas do you have different genres for each individual for example Code Geass is a Alternate history mecha military seinen series which is produce by Sunrise, Rosario + Vampire is a Harem Romantic Comedy Harem Ecchi Supernatural Shonen, then there is Kannazuki No Milo is a mecha yuri manga series. I give a good example of three manga series that are completely opposite for one another. One is more serious and more dramatic and talks about Warfare discrimination and vengeance, another one is more of a goofy love triangle story between a guy and a bunch of Monster Girls, the other one is all about a tragic love romance between two female priestesses during a time where a God was Reawakening and unleashing giant robots upon the world. People who said they won't go into manga only had read one genre that is well-known yet truly don't understand the manga anime community and a profession that is much more flexible than comic books. Also, if you met anyone who hate Monger just because of Dragon Ball Z, bring up Code Geass, Berserk, Fullmetal Alchemist, XL Joushi, Rosario + Vampire, Dance With Devils, Kannazuki No Miko, Boku no Pico, Parasyte, Ghost in the Shell and many more that I can't list. I just listed just a simple small fraction of different Manga and Anime spinning completely in different genres from hilarious comedy, drama and tragedy, even sold their focus on gay and lesbian stories, people who hate manga only read one series and having experience the full library that manga and Anime have. for me, Comics need to be more like manga. Comics books need to have more flexibility in their storytelling, more flexibility in our art style, more flexibility in their genres, focusing more on telling good story then try to become a collector's item, trying to connect other mediums to that comic in order to prevent confusion or disorganized connection between the two franchise, and Comics needs to start bundling their stories into larger books and marking themselves much more better so the medium can grow as well.
Manga also very competitive as the works are published weekly instead of monthly. Hence that's mangakas hire assistants and sometimes famous mangakas are once assistants themselves.
@@Joshua_N-A I agree, part of the reason is their decision on reliant on black and white and don't forget that manga artist tend to work extremely hard and more harder than Western artist.
@@Joshua_N-A that is true and don't forget that many of these artists usually focus on one story or postpone a a manga to work on another project. Example this is berserk
@@MayanFrighter100000 Hiro Mashima does two mangas I think, one is Fairy Tail sequel and the other is Edens Zero. He is also known for his speed. It's said he can churn out few chapters in a week.
Manga art in the top selling mangas is more consistently good than most popular American comics, at least in the interior. American comics tend to show you an amazing piece of colored artwork on the cover, and then when you open the book it's a mishmash of different artists who range from great to awful. That's what always attracted me to manga.
I’m a fan of the amount of content you release now. And I was already big into manga before I started reading American comics. I think one of the traps is, similarly to a “all mainstream American comics are superhero books” statement, the “all mainstream manga are shonen battle manga” is a real thing. And if you look at just Jump magazines and, like, Shonen Sunday, or whatever, then you’ll find that a bunch of series have cookie cutter tropes and storytelling. So, although there is infinite selection and diversity in Manga storytelling, similarly w/ the indies in America it can be tricky to be aware of and find the right stuff you’re looking for.
i can see them complaining that it didn't represent them, or represent them in a bad way this happen also in anime game, example, honkai impact it's premise are heavily influenced by yuri theme with a bunch of girl shipping each other with no male character nearby those Lesbian and other LGBTQ found it and THINK they found something that represent them but then when they look closely, they didn't like what they found and went full ballistic the thing is, yaoi and yuri didn't represent them, those 2 are genre of Fetish yaoi are a bait for those fujoshi, while yuri are for lily-girl (and cultured men in general) it's a lewd literature, pretty much a porn book maybe try shonen ai / shojo ai for a story that more romance focused
Manga doesn't have LGBTQ+ representation????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? Go watch or read Shojo Manga / Anime. Just Sailor Moon alone has it all, Gay, Lesbian, cross dresser, transgender you name it!
There are really diverse story type. And excelent story telling. I currently do more manga ongoing that dc and marvel combined. Independent (image, Dark horse, Vault etc) and european comics are still the major chunk. Keep up the vídeos!
Hello ! , Ex comic book fan , currently reading Manga . Started with Jojo's bizzare adventure part 1 Phantom blood , currently reading part 7 Steel ball run , having the time of my life reading it . Honestly it feels like a journey unlike comic books that have like 1000's of reboots , though marvel is easier to follow DC is like messed up .
a subscription to digital shonen jump is only 2.15$ a month. you can check out a ton of manga to see if you like it. everything from dragonball to my hero academia. bleach to zombie powder. hard boiled cop and dolphin to moriarty the patriot. so very many titles to chose from. gotta catch'em all.
There are currently 962 episodes (including filler) of One Piece. I started at the beginning of the year with a goal to average about three episodes a day. By doing that I will catch up around November. I’m currently about 150 episodes in. My one problem with the show is that the characters can be too simple minded. The action and variety of the locations they go to is really great.
I get people don't like shounen because it can be cringe sometimes but just buy an adult-aimed manga? Akira, Berserk, Uzumaki, Gantz, Chainsaw Man, Sun-Ken Rock, Black Lagoon, e.x. There are so many genres and books to choose from I don't understand how you could definitively not like ALL manga. You just need something that's suited to your taste.
I was a big fan of stuff like Macross and Gatchaman back it the day when it was shown here as Battle of the Planets and Robotech. I also watched shows like Ultraman, Spectre Man, and Space Giants. During the last 10 years as I've become more disillusioned with american comics I found myself drawn to manga and anime more than ever.
Used to be a huge X-men/Spiderman fan.........however, I only read/watch manga/anime right now. Totally done with the Woke American comic. I like story with real development and real ending, which comics can never give to their readers, not to mention American comic writers went total woke, only care about their politics instead writing a good story.
Blood on the tracks. Volume 1 is a really good pick. Can not wait till i get the other volumes. It is unsettling and twisted. Its got tension. It has good art, and it is a very quick read ( 15 mins for 200+ pages ). Very much worth the buy.
I can’t get past the cartoony art style. It just doesn’t land with me. Probably “not helping” is that most of it that I have seen seems to be black and white. When I bother to read a black and white story, it is generally of exceptional quality like old Savage Sword magazines.
@@Master_of_Merol81 I looked up some images and that is definitely better. I probably still wouldn’t go for it because it’s black and white though. (I know, it sounds goofy, but keep in mind that I had to go back to a title that was cancelled 25 years ago to give as a good example of a B&W title that I purchased, so B&W really isn’t a big draw for me.) That said, the images were less cartoony and the level of detail was pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion.
Perch I suggest Bakuman and "skullface seller Honda san" since off the top of my head they explain some of the logistics of making a manga. I think that the distaste for manga is a cognitive dissonance like you said. The sheer variety of different genres is what American comics could have been had we not suffered some setbacks with censorship and business direction Also, my brief experience with European comics I feel like America should take a page or two from too
My thoughts: Manga doesn't have a good entry point for older comic audiences. (Let's not kid ourselves, those of us moaning about the way comics used to be are mostly older.) Also, those that do give it a go are given mainstream recommendations that dont fit them at all. Manga is easiest to get into when you are younger. Shonen (whether its One Piece/Bleach/Naruto, or My Hero/Demon Slayer) are written primarily for younger audiences. I got into it because the emotions were just... bigger than the cartoons I'd watch at the time. It would sweep me away, but those bombastic emotions about friendship etc don't jive as well with an older audience used to a faster pace and more 'adult' problems. Trying to get them into Seinen, what is there? Berserk goes beyond what they are used to. Comics have been in a weird middle ground of being silly, adult, but not particularly hardcore... Even getting the comic audience into anime is hard enough. Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell might be some of the better entry points I know... but that doesn't necessarily translate into entering manga. I've considered showing my dad My Hero since it was still super heroes, but seeing a bunch of children running around with their silly problems is a lot to overcome long before the good stuff happens. I dunno... just my thoughts. What do you think is the best point of entry for an older audience?
Well said. I will say that when I was starting to get into comics last year, I was having trouble knowing where to start. Thankfully, I did subbed a couple of comic RUclips channels for recommendations and can ask my brother about certain runs I should consider.
It is mostly about getting into it. I mean you can't get adults into western comics either by just showing them two random comics (Maybe one is MAD and the other is My Little pony). You have to know what they are looking for, and then guide them to those comics/manga. But assuming you know roughly what they are interested in, here are some suggestions. Adventure: One Piece. Many might not like it after a single volume, but everyone who gave it a chance fell in love with it. Mystery: Higurashi. You get to read mysteries, followed by reveals. If you solve it before the reveals, good on you. The backstory is extremely brutal however and made me sick. School Drama: GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka). Sometimes comedy, sometimes drama. School Drama 2: A silent voice. Good alternative if you want no comedy and a much more serious tone. Western: Tri-Gun. Space western, but still with a feeling of a western with crazy machines. Police: Gunsmith Cats. More adult content than most movies with police theme. Crime: Black Lagoon. Follow a lawless group trying to stay alive working in the world of crime. Sci-fi: From the new world. This one felt very unlike other manga and could probably be a good introduction to manga while still being a bit more like a hollywood movie. War: The saga of Tanya the Evil. Alternate history version where WW2 germany were not the aggressors, but the allies around them attacked first. Introduces magic. Space: Knights of Sidonia. Robots, spaceships, aliens, the usual. Comedy: Too many options for this. For me Monthly Girl's Nozaki-kun is one of many good options. I'd imagine the naked girls line of manga in general wouldn't be a first choice for getting people into the medium. But if you know they love porn, you could always introduce them to the porn-level of manga like Parallel Paradise, Destiny Lovers or How to build a dungeon. Though frankly just showing them hentai would probably be more of what they wanted than manga.
It depends on your audience/dad and their taste. What genre do they enjoy? Why do they enjoy that genre? If you can figure that out, you have a good chance of finding a decent entry point for them. There's a lot more than just Cowboy Bebop or GiTS. Let me know what he's interested in, and I can give you some recommendations. It might also help to check for suggestions on the manga subreddit.
I can agree with this im 19 i just started reading comics 5 years ago and i love most modern storylines same with most people my age that read comics because we dont know comics from the 80s and 90s
maybe start from more realistic topic and not school type (manga really like school stories after all) some that I had in top of my head is like: spice and wolf - about trade/romance/politics kakushigoto - about parenting and facing your loved one's death (altho there's a lot of Japanese pun and mangaka culture so it's hard to get into) spy x familiy - well about spy and family. so about more down to earth spy The Way of the House Husband - comedy of ex-yakuza becoming House Husband I'm also thinking about re: life, but not really sure about adult who become young again concept as you said, there's a lot of adult topic, but its pretty hardcore or executed from a young perspective do you think goblin slayer a little bit too hardcore? because for me it's just that early scene. the rest are pretty fine
Personally, my problem with mango, and Anime alike, is even if there is a lot of genre variety, there is not a lot of variety. What I mean by that, is that the series thrives on its troops, be at narrative or character. Its characters often repeat the same generic personalities. You can easily enter change characters from series, and it wouldn’t even change the outcome.There are mangoes that I do read, but they happen to be either fan published, or incredibly rare exceptions, where they do have their own distinct voice, and for that I praise them for it.
I think in some cases a genre require its tropes. I mean imagine a harem manga where the main boy isn't indecisive and just after chapter 1 proclaims "I'm going to marry this girl". Or the opposite, a harem manga where not a single female likes the main character. How would that work out? Some tropes are also usually just a very good thing. Like if the main villain actually wants to do something for the good of mankind, but in short term it means the deaths of thousands. many villains are like that, but that also happens to be a very believeable way to be evil. It is harder to accept the "Haha, I'm evil so I am going to kill people for fun!".
There was a type of early graphic novel called the emonogatari (written in Japanese Kanji as 絵物語, which means big square picture story), which was highly popular from the mid 1930s to the mid-late 1950s. A lot of characters which appeared in such graphic novels were styled in a manner that is currently considered to be deep within the uncanny valley by modern Japanese literary standards. In other words, Souji Yamakawa of Kenya Boy and Isamu of the Wilderness fame was the king of this literary medium; anime bodies combined with big uncanny valley eyes and rather creepy faces.
For me transitioning to manga is .... difficult. Even with the anime dubs I find myself at a loss because quite frankly it’s a medium made for one specific culture. Without understanding the Japanese culture I’m unable to laugh with subtle nuisances thrown leaving me at a loss. That said the entertainment value is far superior to the current crap the big two try to shove.
There are times I've had to Google or ask someone to explain a reference. But 99% of the time I can get enough of the meaning from context to make sense and then maybe go and find the nuance I missed later. (Frankly, I do a lot more googling as a newish X-Men reader than I do as a newish manga reader.)
Its natural to feel that way the first time u venture through a new comic from a diffrent country. After u get used to all the tropes of the manga may i suggest checking out the korean and then the chinese one.
It varies. If you read Hayate no Gotoku it is filled to the brim with references, and it was a ton of fun spotting every single one 10 years ago, but these days I suspect I miss half of them. But on the bright side missing them do not make the manga worse. But technically I guess it would make it even better if I did not miss them.
I got into manga when Shonen Jump launched in America. I really think it's the black and white that holds it back here. Because even though I did like all the titles in Shonen Jump, they would occasionally print full color chapters and it was so much more appealing.
I have been watching One Piece since I was kid, when It originally aired with the ForKidz dub. I decided to finally buckle down and catch up to the manga this year and what a great experience it has been to be current. Love the community, especially the great content creators here on youtube making One Piece videos.
I became a big fan of The Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service a few years ago. It's tagged as horror and has some morbid content but also quite a bit of humor and a lot of heart. Underrated. One Piece has become my pandemic book. Fifteen volumes down plenty to go.
Ever since I found out your warm spot for manga I've wanted your thoughts on Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, hopefully sometime my bugging will get you to try them.
If you don't like Shounen manga, there are fifteen other manga genres you can dable in, the sky's the limit. It's almost entirely dominated by superhero comics over here. Or, uh, gritty superhero. That's 90% of what you get.
I struggle with the right-to-left reading. That's a bit odd. But honestly I just have too many books to read to try it. I have 100 comic titles a month coming in, plus stacks of trades waiting, my favorite authors pumping out novels, and then some non-fiction books that need attention. I don't have time to bring on another set of books.
While I'm with you in that the section of Dragon Ball that is known as Dragon Ball Z (The Saiyan's arrival arc and onward) is not for me, the beginning era with Dragon Ball is one that I feel has a lot of crossover appeal with Western superhero audience. The Shonen Jump-style battle mangas definitely have a lot of crossover appeal with a Western superhero audience. (Shonen Jump has a variety though, but I feel the "battle manga" is what a superhero audience would enjoy.) As you've mentioned before, Rumiko Takahashi is the great comedy/"slice of life" writer. Horror and indie book fans would like the works of Satoshi Kon and Naoki Urusawa. I recently just read a manga memoir about a woman leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses. This is absolutely a topic I thought I would never see made let alone have any interest in reading, but it was amazing and I feel more educated on a random topic as a result. So yeah: I think the art style is a barrier for a lot people or they stereotype it as *just* the Shonen Jump stuff, but there's really a lot to enjoy.
Perch, you put out as many videos as you want to! I know I'm always going to have something to watch that way. And I like the fact that you make multiple videos about different subjects rather than just one long video that is all over the place. I would say one thing about Manga....At least in American, it's not very collectible. If you're going to get original books and you're going to have to do a lot of import collecting and that's not easy or cheap. And in America, you're looking at a lot of big paperbacks that are easily accessible. So, those 9.8 folks don't have any interest in it. The people buying it are reading it. I would say that one difference in Manga and American comics, it's just whatever style you're into. There is a variety of stories in America and in Manga. But if you're into the tropes in American comics, you might not care about the Manga. American comics tend to be very superhero oriented. Yeah, there are tropes within tropes. You can have serious super heroes. Silly super heroes. Light books about heroes fighting evil and having fun. Dark books about anti-heroes killing villains. You also have horror comics, sci-fi comics....The more you drift into the indies, the more diversity you'll find. Manga has it's own tropes and the people that love super heroes might not be as interested in those type of stories. You tend to have schools fighting each other, harems formed around some special dude, and a special dude who finds a bunch of friends to fight some evil and the characters get more and more overpowered as it goes along. And, just like American comics, the deeper you dive, the more diversity you'll find. There are several factors other than these differences that can cause a rift. American comic readers tend to feud with manga people. With the strange state of the world where the traditional bullies seem to be going back into the woodwork somewhat, geeky schoolkids seem to be turning on each other and their hobbies more than in the old days. American comics and D&D have become accepted facets of life now, so these kids aren't getting beat up like in the old days as much for being into these things. So, rather than banding together and kind of sharing their hobbies, they "hobby focus" and feud about it. So, you've got Manga kids vs. Comic kids. Another factor is probably some jealousy. Manga is moving from book stores into comic stores, and the comic fans are probably annoyed they're sharing space with Manga kids. Those books with cute girls on the covers they used to occasionally pick up on a lark are now starting to fill up shelves that used to be filled with Batman trades. And when someone comes in the store, they're not necessarily talking about how they love or hate X-Men, but what they love about So I Married a Slime. The same thing happened with comic fans when stores started selling Magic cards. Something different taking up space in the store and people talking about something other than Infinity War. They get over it, but they might never do it themself. I'm all over the place. I've read both. I used to pick up Shonen Jump back in the day and I liked it. Dragonball Z, Yu-Gi-Oh, One Piece....I can read them. Not bad stuff and they're their own thing. It's like American comics....If you can find the GOOD ONES, you'll probably have a good time! But, there is also plenty of knock-offs and crap, and if that is the first thing you pick up, it could ruin you. Just like American comics. I mean, Dragonball, it's not for everyone, but it's good on it's own. But if you get one of those Dragonball knock-offs, it could turn you off. The Japanese are just like Americans. If something does well, copy that formula and hack out as much as you can before the trend wears off. That is why you see so many Kaiju movies from the 60's, Power Rangers clones....Well, even to this day! The thing in Japan is that they won't stop producing if the trend slows down. They'll keep producing it until the trend catches back on! Kind of like American comics. If super heroes are boring, that's fine! Keep putting them out until the public comes back again! Anyway, Manga is just like American stuff. If you find something you like, there is probably enough of the same thing to keep you going! I'm more of an American comics kind of guy, but I'll read Manga. I'll watch some Anime. But there just isn't enough time in the day to devour it all. I've got a job. I like to read novels as well as comics. I like to watch movies and tv. I also try to have a teeny bit of a life and get out and exercise and do things in public. So, when it comes to my sit-at-home entertainment, I tend to choose the American comics over manga. I don't hate it. I just don't have time for a deep dive if I'm going to keep doing my super hero stuff. But Manga IS a good alternative if you're tired of seeing Batman have wars with the Joker twice a year. And when you get tired of seeing if Hiroshi will marry Yuna the slime or Kava the Barbarian Princess from the Stellar Ganymede Empire, then you might want to check out Immortal Hulk. It's good to be flexible.
I've slowly started picking up manga. DEFINETLY studying the art style, story telling and cultural impact (thanks to your channel) I have Naruto 1 and read through it. The backwards reading is a bit to get used to but not bad. Artwork is top notch! Great storytelling from panel to panel. My main problem is some of the Japanese to English translation is a bit off. It's a direct translation in most parts and doesn't fit grammatically to me. Again, not a deal breaker and it's my first Manga so I'm not holding it against the entire medium. I haven't gotten more into Manga as my Marvel, DC, Western Indie comics "To Read" pile is astronomical and to add more isn't utilizing my time as well lol.
I like manga. I prefer western comics, but I do read manga occasionally. I like the slice of life stuff and other non-action stories. My favorite manga is Crayon Shin-chan. It is funny and easy for me to read in Japanese. I also like Chibi Maruko Chan for the same reasons. I don't like action manga. One Piece is difficult for me to read in Japanese and I don't really care for the art. I also don't like the pacing of action manga. I find that I can really only enjoy action manga when I'm binging it. I prefer American comics because I like the art and storytelling style. I find it much easier to stay interested in an "Ame-comi" while it is still ongoing. I also like that they are in color and told from an American perspective. I think manga is great and people should check it out. I also think people should check out American comics because they're pretty good as well.
I jumped on the manga bandwagon in mid 2017 and have no regrets. I recommend a historical fiction manga, Riyoko Ikeda's 'Poland's Secret Story: To the Borders of Heaven' because it has Tadeusz Kosciuszko in manga form. Her Rose of Versailles was also great.
I personally think uploading so much videos is good and bad. It's good because it's more content, and if one video doesn't interest me, there will be another really soon. That's always good. And, if I like a topic or a type of video, and you do a lot of that kind of videos, it's a win win. However, with such a giant library of videos, there is almost 0 chance that people will see even a small part of the catalogue (that's because of the algorithm) to put it simply: your content its like Shonen jump. It's a lot, every week. Its, and I don't mean to disrespect, kinda disposable (again, as jump) So, what does jump do? The collected editions, for the people who missed the weekly mag. When you publish so many videos a day, there is just not enough time for RUclips to promote the video and that video reaching more and new audience. A good way to combat this, and take advantage of your staggering upload schedule, is to make a very clear "best of perch" or "essentials" Playlist in your channel homepage. A lot of us who sometimes miss a good amount of your videos, or maybe just want to be reminded of your best, will appreciate it. And new people will have a good jumping point to your RUclips library.
Since I rambled in my prior comment, it is only fair that I provide some comic/manga recommendations: Curse of the Worgen, The Mask of Fudo Vol. 1, Magus of the Library, The Witch's Monstrous Paintings, #1. I'm a spider so what?, Ragna Crimson, Rising of the Shield Hero, Renjoh Desperado, Goldfisch, Black Torch, Ayanashi, Izunas, Burning Hell (Mass Market Paperback), Arifureta, Grimms Monster, Yin and the Dragon, Die Wolke, Gleipnir, The dynasty of dragons, Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher, Grimms Manga
Tbh everyone will have their own perception to things new to them , after that period pass and they found something that's click with them , then it's smooth sailing from their. It's hard to find that first click though. Most common genre which is easily find which is shounen might non suit for adult audience taste , but seinen manga are not so easy to find or as popular as shounen . I myself find romcom as my most favorite genre which is not so hard to find , but something like psychological, thriller or horror are rather rare to find a physical copy.
If you like Kaijus stories, here with a very interesting take, read Kaiju 8 If you like martial arts, Breaker and its follow up Breaker New Wave, awesome manhwa (korean manga), or Kenichi : Mightiest Disciple One Punch Man meets Harry Potter : Mashle : Magic and Muscles
My girlfriend is hesitant to some manga because of tropes that she doesn't like that at times are pervasive such as the pervert character etc. Ironically she said that she didn't like the art style of American comics. She did not realize there was not one definitive style for all American comics.
I tried reading Akira, but it didn't catch me the way i hoped it would. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but it just didn't. Next one i'll try is Fist of the northstar when viz releases new collection this year.
I think its simply because people who grew up with dark and brooding batman with his PTSD and "edgier than thou" attitude doesnt want to admit japanese comics is far more superior. I was a DC fan for almost half my life but I got tired of their sh*t storytelling and political agendas. I simply moved to marvel, and guess what, its the same over there.
I guess from someone who comes from the manga side and lacks interest outside of it (well sometimes I do especially if there's a friend), they are really good at trying the most obscure idea into a properly good story. If you just go read synopsis from a random manga catalog, chances are you gonna find a weird story concept that may not be explored before. and sometimes, it may not be the clearest execution, but it still could be a solid story.
I got five hardbound volumes of Berserk so far... Getting Vagabond.. Digitally I read Violence Jack.. I'm blown away at these different styles.. I been punched in the guts in a way I've never been with Marvel Comics, which I enjoyed mostly of the 70s and 80s and early 90s.. But yes manga is the way now.. Fist of the North Star is my next project.. Also Samurai X with battousai the slasher I can't remember the real name it's called.. Also I couldn't do black-and-white when I was 19 and 20.. Now the black-and-white detailers brilliant
Yeah, manga is great. I’m currently reading Monster by Naomi Urasawa. It’s about a surgeon that saves a young boy, that boy becomes a serial killer, the surgeon feeling responsible, now has to hunt the killer down. It’s Silence of the Lambs meets The Fugitive.
Monster is the BEST.
20th century boys is great too!
I really wish that show got a full dvd release. Viz started to release Monster about a decade ago, but couldn't finish it due to weird licensing issues.
Like urasawa , Pluto , billy bat, 20th , monster and even happy were fun to read
I want to read this one but I have a feeling it will do my brain in.
The 5th best-selling manga in Japan is a story about volleyball. How's that for comics?
I used to have a "It's just weird" attitude towards manga, but then I learned more about it, saw it for what it really was. All of this I discovered not long ago, after the comics let me down. So I guess Marvel and DC's failures did something right. Once I started reading those stories (the mangas I liked), I realized there are places that respected me as a customer.
I watched PopCross' Artist reacts to Manga Art series on YT. That's when I realized manga artists put sweat and blood into their work, that's art. Whereas in comics from their creators I see a lot of, "You're lucky I even bothered to walk up to the printer," behavior.
It's pure entertainment. That's why people consume so much of it. It's good.
@Chí Thiện Nguyễn Yeah, I got into the first volume and couldn't get into it. Not a fan of the main character.
@Chí Thiện Nguyễn Yeah but then my friend told me about the Penis-Headed Monsters that would come later on and I thought, "Nope,". It doesn't seem like my type of book. I have lots of admirantion for the author, though. The art in the later volumes is jawdroppingly masterful and I wish the book pulled me in so that I could've seen it in all its glory.
@Chí Thiện Nguyễn Alright, your arguments have been compelling thus far. Thanks for that.
@Chí Thiện Nguyễn whats the name of this comic?
I didn't fully realize that people were criticizing manga/anime for not having LGBTQ representation. That's the most baffling take to me. When I was in middle school, outside of Alison Bechdel, Alan Moore, Howard Cruse, or the Vertigo Comics line, comics with regular LGBTQ representation weren't incredibly common. Outside of books, the first series with gay themes I ever read were all mangas. Series like Finder, Gravitation, No. 6, Cardcaptor Sakura, Sailor Moon, or Black Butler (to name the barest few). Anime likewise had LGBTQ content readily available. I think it's one of the reasons I find the celebratory attitude some of the marketing takes whenever Marvel or DC introduces an LGBTQ character so cringy and off-putting. Manga and anime have been doing this for a long time now and they're not looking for someone to pat them on the back. Maybe we shouldn't be too surprised that an industry that embraces fan service is able to find a healthy amount of success.
Also, the LGBTQ representation in manga and anime doesn't always take itself so seriously. Yes, there's space to have more grounded and serious stories, like Nagata Kabi's "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" or "The Heart of Thomas" by Moto Hagio to more silly and light-hearted fares. Also, fabulous gay villains are still a common thing, and I love gay villains.
Akimi Yoshida is a popular manga artists in Japan for a long time and she is known for drawing gay stories. Her popular manga "Banana Fish" was serialized from 1985 to 1994 on a girls' manga magazine and it was currently animated. ruclips.net/video/jgup5Iear2I/видео.html
You can see how girls at the comment section react. Akimi Yoshida naturally draw her manga like that so the readers naturally enjoy her stories as well ( I mean she doesn't have any agenda to preach people, she just likes to tell stories like that).
card captor sakura have gay theme?
There's this funny story I heard about a kid growing up in a diverse neighbourhood, he goes to a kindergarten school where there're black kids, latino kids, asian kids all mixed in.
This kid is asked to describe the first thing that comes to mind about his best friend, and he says his best friend is very tall.
The best friend he points to is black.
That's a kid who haven't been taught racial biases yet. It never occurred to him that the skin color could make his friend more different to him than height does. That's how want your diverse representations to be received. You don't want to draw attention to how your diverse characters are intrinsically different and alien to your readers. The gayness, queerness, blackness, etc... are not meant to be exotic traits to make your characters stand out. In the real world, those traits are used to create divisions. Meanwhile, it's very common to see manga readers not realizing how diverse the cast of characters in manga are until somebody points it out to them. That's the ideal state of diverse representation - when your readers look past the differences between them and the characters on the page to find relatability.
@@kukuhpringgo Sakura's brother and Yukito
@@jessnalulila5552 yes 👍 but my understanding back then, yukito is genderless because he is a clow card/guardian 😄
One of the reasons why is that to a lot of people, shonen = all of manga. They might not like shonen, dont know or dont care to know theres a sea of stuff that is nothing like shonen, and just conclude that they dont like all manga ( Ridiculous statement as manga is an enormous medium).
Then theres people who use the word "cringe". Do not take those people seriously.
It doesn’t help that Shonen isn’t really a genre, but a demographic, and it’s WAY more then just battles and superpowers. Stuff like Welcome to the Ballroom and Smile Down the Runway, two manga that are about ballroom dancing and fashion, to be targeted at the Shonen demographic but there they are.
@@PhantomOfTheKnight Thank You! Some of my favorite shounen titles are simple wacky comedies like High School Kimengumi or the wackier scifi/romantic comedy fusions like Urusei Yatsura (from the author who gave us Ranma 1/2 and Inuyasha).
@@PhantomOfTheKnight Or bakuman the shonen manga about 2 guys writing a shonen manga
@@httohot isn't that one actually a biographic of death note writer life with a bit of exaggeration.
This
Pride. It's stupid. I love DC and Marvel. I just don't respect the business model. They literally cannot succeed using the Direct Market and having these endless reboots and universal events. It's shockingly inept.
I mocked anime and manga endlessly... until I started actually reading manga. The quality is multiple, multiple levels over DC and Marvel now. It's not even close.
The only reason people talks about comic book characters at all is because of the Marvel movies. No one reads the comics. It's not even an industry. Stuff is produced but very few end users/consumers actually buy it.
It's a strange sense of pride as it's a group of nerds that are too think they are too good to acknowledge another group of nerds.
Not pride for me. I don't write or draw the books.
I am however completely vested in these characters and universes since childhood. There is a certain amount of emotional attachment and care to see where they go.
I don't care for manga. If and when I do feel like reading something outside of the superhero sphere or just something different there are plenty of novels on whatever genre I want that I'd rather read over any manga.
@@562wiseguy "I don't care for manga." That's like saying "I don't care for movies." Close-minded and puerile.
If Americans want better comics, they need to learn from manga. Manga is doing things the American way from decades ago and it's working.
Is about culture "What's bad is Being weeb That abandons Your culture and personality for anime"
I might going out on a limb here but I think the problem is that a lot of people (specifically in the English speaking market mainly US fans from what I noticed) can't wrap their heads around the concept of comics or cartoons having different genres or at least more than 3. I think that's why the US comic industry is dominated mainly by superhero titles while other parts of the world namely Japan and Europe has so many different genres, tackling different themes and that attracts many different audiences or markets.
No my hero outsells most of marvel comics lol by itself
@@apolloman1608 and yet many people still have that perception that manga is "this and only this", in fact when you look at manga that sell big in the US it's mostly Shounen action titles like MHA, One Piece and DBZ, there are a few exceptions like Attack On Titan, which is more of a monster comic on paper and Sailor Moon manga but AOT is still has a lot of that Shounen feel and SM sells because the anime is super popular in the US Anime fandom.
I'm not surprised. True, most people who are exposed to American comics or western cartoons see only action, horror, romance, fantasy as genres available. And superheroes/mutants/vampires/werewolves as the ones who have superpowers. They think that beyond those genres or types of characters are impossible.
And what comes to mind also is that the music genre on the American cartoons and kids series. You.only.hear.rock and upbeat music. When you watch anime the OST that accompanies it is so musically diverse, the music can be mellow/ballad, rock, pop and whatever music genre you can think of.
It's ridiculous if anyone say they are "not into manga". That's like saying "I'm not into movies, I saw a few"
I don't see how it's any different than people saying "I'm not into comics"
@@JoJoOnRUclips nobody into American comic in my country and Asia
@@JoJoOnRUclips I think there's more pre conceived ideas of American comics than manga at this point. When people think American comics it's only DC and Marvel and they only publish one genre of comic. It's a shame but the industry done this to itself.
I used to think that I would never be into Manga. Conflated Manga with Shonen only. I liked Anime like Akira and Robotech but I wasn’t exposed to any Manga other than Shonen-style. That was in the 90’s. Now though it is so much easier to find a wide variety of Manga either at book stores, comic shop, or library. Do not dismiss it or overlook it or you are missing out. You don’t have spend a bunch of money. You can try different types of Manga from the library or just hang out at Barnes and Noble for a few hours and read for free. Find the stuff you like (it is out there) and start buying. In the last three years I’ve bought Akira box set, books by Junji Ito, Shintaro Kago, Osamu Tezuka, Yoshihiro Tatsumi, and Shuzo Oshimi. I also binged the entire I Am A Hero series and the first couple Barefoot Gen books from my local library.
Nothing wrong with shounen though. But people should really learn that there are anime out there that appeal to anyone.
@@heyarnold7256 agreed. Shonen is great if that is what appeals to you. Even among Shonen there are many different types and genres of story.
I have a hard time to bring myself to try out new things and I have not read a ton if different Manga but with "Madd in Abyss" I alrady found the Manga that is fore me. I love that series. Both the Anime and the Manga. It preses all the right buttons on me. The writing feels like magic to me.
Different stroke for different folks
That such how their QUIRKS
@You murdered that guy Yeah, that's a real cultural issue in Japan. I can see that being a barrier for entry into manga just generally. A lot of the more gendered interactions in a lot of manga and anime would be considered incredibly tasteful by western standards(or even criminal).
I personally think just about everyone should read Akira because it's important, influential work and it's not too much of an investment as it's a finite series. And I've been loving diving into the horror works of Junji Ito, which includes just some of the best horror related comics that have come out in the 21st century.
Great suggestion on Junji Ito.
Seconded. I read Uzumaki, and I’d definitely check out more of Junji Ito’s work
I'm reading Gyo right now and it is SICK. I love it.
I recommend Otomo's Domu over Akira to people; similar in quality and tone, just shorter. If they dig it, then it's easy to point them at the long, dense works like Akira, Ghost in the Shell and Lone Wolf & Cub.
Me reading Akira: "Building go boom boom!"
The thing that strikes me is the number of people who say they tried manga and didn't like it, then when you ask them what they read it's a volume or two of one or two titles. On the basis of that you've formed an opinion on that entire side of the comics industry? Nuts. Imagine the results if you did the same thing with a handful of Western trades and that was your total experience with Western comics. You might strike lucky, but odds are you'd think the whole field was trash. There's way more garbage out their than good stuff, East or West, but there's a manga *and* a comic out there for everyone. Need to put in the effort to find it, that's all - and gods know you'll find plenty of helpful recs from fans online to point you in the right direction to start.
EDIT: "Anime adaptations match the manga pretty well..." Bold, bold words, Perch. Some of them are way better than others at that - and gods help you if Four Kids got involved in the localization. :)
More Perch videos = more comics fun and discussion
What could possibly go wrong?
I misread that as "more comics fun and depression".
As long as he doesn't break from stress. Please stay rested Perch!
One of the trickiest things in regards to both recommending and what people generally see in manga is only stuff’s that’s been licensed (or at least has an anime adaptation) and many other series still being available only in Japan, so what’s properly available in a legal manner is very limited.
Though I have a feeling that popular manga like the depressing high school shoujou title Oniisama...e (Dear Brother) (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Brother) or the lighthearted slice of life cooking seinen manga Cooking Papa (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_Papa) wouldn't find much of an audience among US comic readers especially compared to action shounen titles like DBZ, MHA or Demon Slayer.
I wouldn't call it "very limited". I have a ton of concurrent manga I've been buying. Probably well over 50 titles. Probably under 100 titles.
Which manga are you talking about? There's been a lot of manga released in the past 20+ years. Viz, Dark Horse, and even Vertical have released a lot of non-shounen/shojou manga over the years. Manga and anime have become so popular, that they're even releasing light novels now. As someone who's been reading manga for more than 20 years, the idea that there isn't any manga you could recommend is a bit silly.
@@kidicarus2215 though it's mostly shounen action titles that are selling big numbers and outperforming superhero titles in the US comic market. I don't see a lot of Shojou or Senein titles doing that at least according to sources like Amazon bestseller lists for graphic novels.
@@Elementa2006 Why do they have to outsell shounen titles though? The very fact that seinen, shoujou, and josei titles, are available at Amazon or Barnes & Noble at all, is an insane accomplishment. 30 years ago, you'd be hard pressed to find anything outside of a handful of manga titles outside of Akira, Lone Wolf & Cub, and maybe Ghost In The Shell in comic shops. The fact that they're releasing seinen/mature manga in omnibus format, through major outlets, is something that I never thought would happen.
If you like 90s comics that were big on testosterone and action, try out Fist of the North Star.
Except I personality found Fist of the North Star to be a more enjoyable read than your typical 90s comics especially Youngblood which to put in more nicer manner, I don't care for. Although I do like 90s comics like Savage Dragon and Spawn.
omae wa mou shinderu
@@pyrophobia133 Nani?!!
I believe the manga will be reprinted in the US in a special 2-in-1 edition. I don’t know much about the manga, is it any good?
@@jonazWC Fist of the North Star a fun read, but it's very long (around 24 volumes).
When I was younger, in France, we were lucky to be able to get American comics and Japanese comics quite easily (even more now), even in the late 80s and early 90s. I was part of those guys who read both European comics, Amercian comics and Japanese ones too. When I talked to people only liking one of them, it was fun to notice this kind of weird triangle with: One third thought every manga was the same about violence, big eyes and feminine guys. One third thought every European comics was the same with not funny dad jokes, big noses and old-ish colors and narration. The last third thought the American comics were all about muscled men in tights, scantilly clad women and USA first go, go, go. Of course, each of those one groups always thought the others were only thinking in stereotypes ;-)
How are French comics these days?
@@uiron5755 Sadly, I couldn't really tell you. I'm mostly focusing on comics and my friends get the mangas... budget wise, it's hard to go in every directions (because there is also video games and boardgames to buy and boy do I love trying new restaurant and foods too ^^) and I do miss someone who would be taking care of the european comics part. What I can tell you though, when I look at them in the library is they incorporated a lot of foreign influences as many "new" creators grew up reading/watching japanese/american comics/movies. Other than that, it's very much an industry, meaning you'll have waves of the same kind of story as long as someone proved it worked and should be imitated. I could try to give you some maine theme but I'd probably be wrong or just give you stuff that were real 10 to 15 yeas a go... so not very accurate. From the few facebook posts I can read coming from French comics creator, it seems to have all the stereotypes of "only a few manage to live quite well off of it, while th 95% others struggle for minimum wage" or so. But, then again, it's been a while since I talked to someone on "the inside" so take my words with a grain of salt. Well sorry, I guess I wrote a big chunk of text just to say I couldn't give you much hindsight... Gomenasai ;-)
But American comic is always same. Muscular white guy show up and beat bad guy and save the world
there's also the DBZ fan that will not read or watch ANY other manga or anime.
Not to mention they often say Goku is the best manga character ever and can't be beaten by anyone
@@tylerensminger So true! Like Goku is not doing shit against Sailor Moon
Those people are extremely rare…..
you mean me.... (i do read other ones,but its hard to not come back to good old dragonball)
@@schlotzkovich6909 more common among millennials that grew up with DBZ. Had a few friends like that, and others that discovered more anime
To be honest I'm just superheroes fan
When I can find superhero stuff I will follow
I read mangas too My Hero Academia One Punch Man Ultraman Kinnikuman
Dragon Ball Super
And I watch Kamen Rider and Super Sentai too
I had trouble with some of the art style at first because I was use to more “realistic” art and I preferred colored pages rather than black and white. But dang the stories are so much better.
I found it hard to believe with ur statement when I could see u using pikachu as ur pfp.
Manga is like comics in that their are a ton of options and genres in the medium.
Even the vikings and spacecraft are depicted in a realistic way.
Manga is like movies, in that they cover all genres and they all follow a very dynamic and action filled drawing style. After all the first manga produced was an attempt to make Disney movies in comic shape.
A few genre recommendations, for anyone interested:
Mystery-thriller portion of some Batman stories:
20th Century Boys (or anything else by Naoki Urasawa)
Artsy indie OGN stuff like Iscariot or Pistouvi:
Oyasumi Pun Pun (or any other Inio Asano series)
More adult superhero content like an Immortal Hulk or a Hellblazer:
Vampire Hunter D
Dark Sci Fi action like Oblivion Song or Low:
Gantz
Evolutionary fantasy epics like The Last God:
Claymore
I love claymore it’s like a lite berserk, also try corpse delivery service or Franken fran if you like gore.
But I'm an isekai trash but i like what you suggest up there.
20th century boys my beloved
I wait patiently for 50 pages of Berserk yearly🤐
Rip man 😔
Gentle, the "smooth criminal" youtuber, is actually a really great "villain". The best example of the fallen villain akin to Two-Face.
Overall, manga is amazing with a wide variety of genres and stories that I personally believe has way more quality in comparison to the western comics.
As someone who got into American comics long after I got into manga, there's so much more variety in the stortelling in manga. If I had to compare it to something in the American comics industry it has much more in line with the indies than anything else. Some of my favorites have been...
One Piece: An epic tale of comradery, altruism and perseverance, featuring a crew of lovable, incredibly developed characters and a vast, lived-in world. Incredible attention to detail, long-term payoffs decades in the making, and subtle gags that people only notice years later (in addition to more overt ones).
Akira: No description of this one is going to do it justice. This is the Watchmen of manga. Wholesale destruction that will leave you in awe, immensely-satisfying character-writing, and an outright fascinating backdrop of a dystopian alternate future involving pseudo-nuclear development.
Chainsawman: A lovely story full of broken, dysfunctional people trying to survive and learn to be people in a world where the next day could very well be their last. Demons, demon hunters, and a body count that would make Quentin Tarantino proud. The art is at times incredibly detailed with a variety of shading techniques, and at others scratchy in an incredibly emotive way.
Vagabond: Taking old samurai/western films to heart, this is just as exhilarating as those old classics, with some excellent philosophical beats to boot. Brush pen art with lifelike detail, fantastic emotion, and gorgeous double-page spreads.
I personally feel like a lot of the criticism that can be applied to the resistance from manga and/or comic readers to read new content from the other side is equal. In the same way many comic readers assume all manga is shonen, many manga readers assume that American comics are all superhero when there’s loads of stuff to enjoy on both sides. While I’ve consumed a lot of anime with a much greater preference for American comics generally, there’s so much amazing content to be read on both sides and it’s a shame so many people are unwilling to just enjoy it all. On a semi-related level, it would be super nice to have there be adaptations of comics that are as accurate as a lot of manga out there that can appeal to all ages. I’m hoping Invincible is not only another great stepping stone in further adaptations of indie comics, but also a step in giving more American comics the anime treatment. I think it would bring in a lot more readership all around like it has for manga readers.
Great Video, Perch! Never commented before, but love all the videos!
Ugh, let me guess: Comicstorian. Or other comic storytime guy. He offered Zack similar "advice" years ago.
People watch guys like him so they don't have to read the comics. They do it to keep in touch with the characters that they'll be seeing in movies. That's all.
What happened I’m out of the loop
@@StratumPress Yeah a few years ago I'd just put on one of his hour long videos and passively listen to it while doing more interesting things. I never did that with properties I cared about.
I’ll be honest, I was the same with Anime at first. The only ones I’d seen at the time was Dragon Ball Z and Pokémon. Not that I hate them, I just didn’t get into them and didn’t watch Anime for a long time. Then I watched the movies from Studio Ghibli, My Neighbour Totoro especially showed a much more whimsical yet somehow more mature story that I could easily get into. It’s like when people look down on Comics. You probably haven’t seen how great it could be if you just look deeper. **Edit I still like Shonen type anime too though.
Also Perch, keep doing what you're doing, we like your video releases just the way it is.
To anyone who is hesitant about trying out manga but want to read a dark story with a somewhat comic type art style I recommend reading Berserk. It's not for the faint of heart but the story is insanely well written and it might give you a different perspective on what manga as a whole actually is and could be. You don't have to, but I fully recommend it!
It’s sure a masterpiece
Also if you like dark and violent with many gore well written plot I recommend you Gantz, I am a hero, Tokyo ghoul, vagabond, you won’t regret
When I lived in Japan, as a student, I was warned about "Z Culture." Everyone I knew looked down on anime fans. But, a lot of people liked Spider-Man. Both the Japanese and American versions. I think manga is different from Western comics. What I mean by that is the Japanese view magna differently than Westerners view comics.
It really sounds the same as how nerd culture was looked down on not too long ago.
How could people think Dragon Ball Z is the best anime/manga there is to offer? LMAO. To Your Eternity is a multi-era fantasy series that questions lie, death, and what it means to be human. And that's shonen.
People, like me, grew up with Dbz and are bias because of it. It was also my favorite manga at one point. Now that I’ve exposed myself with other manga, my love for dbz has decreased, but oh man do I cherish those childhood memories with it!
@@jonazWC doesn't make sense. Attack on titan for example is better but my love for dragon Ball has stayed the same, not decreased.
Oddly enough I went from Manga to Superhero comics. There is a lot of love in both mediums and both have strengths and weaknesses.
I was pretty much the same way, but swap out the manga for anime.
Finally someone with sense that can see the good and bad in things
Same
@@voiceoftheknight1939 ahaha true sick of people who hating on manga fans hating on comics vice versa
Same here, I use to be a huge weeb but over the past few years I started reading more comics.
Manga is likely now in a similar situation as anime was in the 90's and early 00's, there are things that get a lot of traction but they don't necessarily represent the medium. This is exacerbated by manga being distributed in the West using a book model as opposed to the anthology periodical model that actually dictates a lot of how they're read where they are created.
I think the biggest factor in the rise of manga in the West is little more than straight up oikophobia tbh
Oikophobia how so?
They tried to distribute them in periodical form and it didn’t last. The U.S. Shonen Jump magazine got discontinued in physical form and only exists digitally now. And Shojo Beat magazine got discontinued completely.
Manga is growing everywhere in the world. Is everyone suffering from oikophobia? Besides, US comics are losing market even where they are not native, so wouldn't that be against the oikophobia argument?
If all you know about Japan is from Toonami and action isn't your thing look into comedy manga like My Senpai is Annoying. Office workplace humor is pretty universal.
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid just keeps getting funnier every volume.
Spy x Family is probably the best new manga series that came out last year.
If you like slapstick comedy with lots of cute girls... and boobs. Seriously. Lots of boobs: Read Monster Musume. The one series where there is no wrong answer to "best girl".
It was actually the Dragon Maid anime that made me get into the manga.
I love Spy x Family so much. I'm so excited for the next volume
Your channel is one of the few I keep coming back to through the day to see if you have uploaded anything new...
In 2020 manga garned $15.59 billion Japan alone. Whereas in "the best year for comics" in 2019, the North American market garned $1.21 billion. And they had to dump manga, crowdfunding, web comics, newstand etc. to boost those numbers up.
This.
yeah that says it all really
I think it's partly because of toxic seriousness. They can't get over how attractive and cute manga looks (yes, even the dramatic/serious ones. You can't tell me Demon Slayer doesn't look cute. But it simultaneously also looks badass and manly. There is no conflict). Seriously, I often see this point whenever the topic comes up "it looks like it's for little kids" or something.
There is occasionally a case for manga, as part of the anime universe; but most of the time it should be taken alone and on its own.
Alita: Battle Angel is perfect as an example. The manga wasn’t horrible but gave us very little information to inform as to Alitas’ background and backstory. GUNNM was more of the same, in many ways.
The Alita: Battle Angel movie, not only gave the viewer a better read on Alita as a character and person, but now we had a believable back story and history for Alita.
In this case (and happens more often than some believe) the movie vindicated everything that came before...
... and was a better story to boot.
Actually the Mars Chronicles they are putting out now is explaining the backstory of Alita.
@@linusgustafsson2629
Alita began as a manga in 1990. Mars Chronicle began in 2014.
I think 24-years is far too long a wait to expand the manga.
As I said the meaningful backstory for Alita very much needed the movie.
Keep the videos coming Perch! I value your level-headed, at times sarcastic takes, in and revolving around comics and the industry. In fact, I prefer you videos over the bigger comic RUclipsrs, because you don't have Click Bait titles and Hot Takes in order to get views. Plus, Perch + RUclips = Fun!
Uzumaki, vagabond, gundam, just started legends of the galactic heroes, Tokyo ghoul, hunter hunter, full metal al, one piece, cowboy bepop, samurai champlu, tri gun, helsing and a plethora others big two comics could never.
I started in manga way back in the mid 90s. The publisher was Studio Prometheus, long before they became part of Dark Horse. I started with Apple Seed, Black Magic, No Need for Tenchi, and Ah My Goddess. Gunsmith Cats Is still one of my favorite crime and bounty hunter mangas. While fighting mangas are not really my cup of tea, I did enjoy the Naruto books (all 70 some odd of them). The thing I love the most about mangas is the discipline in story telling and world building. No matter how extreme the world in the manga, the story told works within the framework of that world. The characters actions and decisions are formed and guided by the world created. Another aspect I like is most manga will keep the same creative team from start to finish. There are excepts, but the mangas in my personal collection run from a minimum of two volumes to 30 or 40. The series will have the same writer and artist for its entire run. In my personal collection I have science fiction, fantasy, slice of life, crime dramas, and lesbian romance. The range of content is breathtaking.
And I still buy Supergirl, Batgirl, Batwoman, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn.
TL;DR You’re doing great, keep up the good work man.
The longer version:
Glad the numbers make you happy perch, they make me happy too! I also *really* appreciate that you put out as many videos as you do- your takes are encouraging and logical/levelheaded (which is a pleasure to listen to on its own, something about the grounded-ness of your takes is... soothing? In a world where everyone is vying for the hot take, a room temperature take is nice), and the 10-20 min videos are great timing wise, enough time to dig in to ideas, yet not too long to where it gets repetitive or boring! The occasional longer videos are fine, sometimes you need 40 min and those are good too, but your typical video being 10-20 is great. Lastly, it’s honestly kinda great that you leave in the car/ambient sounds of you doing other things, since I listen while I’m doing other things, it makes it feel like we are doing other things together, making it feel more conversational. That’s all to say, ignore what the dude said, there’s many of us (I assume I’m not the only one?) that really enjoy the way you present your thoughts and content!
I have rarely encountered a story as good as Kenshin. That's the thing. It has a beginning, a middle and an end. It's not intended to be infinitely extensible.
You mean rurouni kenshin? That's my favorite shonen manga.
My copy of One Piece Vol 1 arrived in the mail yesterday. I ordered it based solely on what I heard about on this channel.
Wish me luck 😃
See you in 1003 chapters from now ;)
Enjoy, my friend. You're in for a great ride
1004 as of last week :) need more of the overgrown koi fish kiado
@@altname4742 Thanks buddy
I hope you enjoy it. For me One Piece is too long for my taste, and the anime version has some serious pacing issues.
“Hentai” oh I know that one it’s quite voluminous 😂😆
people look its not that difficult of a concept Berserk and Lady Death both exist, The Crow and Vagabond Exist, Predator and Hellsing Exist...like there are great stories and gorgeous artwork that are Bad A** in both manga and comics. It doesn't matter if your name is Brian Pulido or Junji Ito the passion is there. So my advice if you know what you love then go out and find it because it is undoubtedly waiting for you. 分かりますか？
I don't mind reading manga but I think I get more out of the story when I get the visuals, sound/music, color, and movement of anime all working together. If there's is no choice but to read the manga if you want the story I have no problem doing that but for now I'm always going to try the anime first. Though I may end up trying more manga that don't have anime now, recently watched Berserk and after that ending I felt I had no choice but to start reading the manga.
To be honest, I have never met anyone who refused to read a manga. Manga has more genres and a more organize way of Storytelling. There are different genres in Magna, Kodomo are children, Shonen are for teen boys, Shojo are for teen girls, seinen are for young adult men, josei are for young adult women. And to clean your own these examples, mangas do you have different genres for each individual for example Code Geass is a Alternate history mecha military seinen series which is produce by Sunrise, Rosario + Vampire is a Harem Romantic Comedy Harem Ecchi Supernatural Shonen, then there is Kannazuki No Milo is a mecha yuri manga series. I give a good example of three manga series that are completely opposite for one another. One is more serious and more dramatic and talks about Warfare discrimination and vengeance, another one is more of a goofy love triangle story between a guy and a bunch of Monster Girls, the other one is all about a tragic love romance between two female priestesses during a time where a God was Reawakening and unleashing giant robots upon the world. People who said they won't go into manga only had read one genre that is well-known yet truly don't understand the manga anime community and a profession that is much more flexible than comic books. Also, if you met anyone who hate Monger just because of Dragon Ball Z, bring up Code Geass, Berserk, Fullmetal Alchemist, XL Joushi, Rosario + Vampire, Dance With Devils, Kannazuki No Miko, Boku no Pico, Parasyte, Ghost in the Shell and many more that I can't list. I just listed just a simple small fraction of different Manga and Anime spinning completely in different genres from hilarious comedy, drama and tragedy, even sold their focus on gay and lesbian stories, people who hate manga only read one series and having experience the full library that manga and Anime have. for me, Comics need to be more like manga. Comics books need to have more flexibility in their storytelling, more flexibility in our art style, more flexibility in their genres, focusing more on telling good story then try to become a collector's item, trying to connect other mediums to that comic in order to prevent confusion or disorganized connection between the two franchise, and Comics needs to start bundling their stories into larger books and marking themselves much more better so the medium can grow as well.
Manga also very competitive as the works are published weekly instead of monthly. Hence that's mangakas hire assistants and sometimes famous mangakas are once assistants themselves.
@@Joshua_N-A I agree, part of the reason is their decision on reliant on black and white and don't forget that manga artist tend to work extremely hard and more harder than Western artist.
@@MayanFrighter100000 colouring is time consuming. Usually used as opening of a chapter, the rest is B&W.
@@Joshua_N-A that is true and don't forget that many of these artists usually focus on one story or postpone a a manga to work on another project. Example this is berserk
@@MayanFrighter100000 Hiro Mashima does two mangas I think, one is Fairy Tail sequel and the other is Edens Zero. He is also known for his speed. It's said he can churn out few chapters in a week.
Manga art in the top selling mangas is more consistently good than most popular American comics, at least in the interior. American comics tend to show you an amazing piece of colored artwork on the cover, and then when you open the book it's a mishmash of different artists who range from great to awful. That's what always attracted me to manga.
I’m a fan of the amount of content you release now.
And I was already big into manga before I started reading American comics.
I think one of the traps is, similarly to a “all mainstream American comics are superhero books” statement, the “all mainstream manga are shonen battle manga” is a real thing. And if you look at just Jump magazines and, like, Shonen Sunday, or whatever, then you’ll find that a bunch of series have cookie cutter tropes and storytelling.
So, although there is infinite selection and diversity in Manga storytelling, similarly w/ the indies in America it can be tricky to be aware of and find the right stuff you’re looking for.
The sad thing is because marvel/dc are giants, their shadow cover the Indie comic companies so many people are unaware they exist.
Imagine if an American comics read picked up Berserk, they would say Griffith did something wrong!
Who would have guessed that Chris over a ComicsTropes had an angry side?
(NOTE: I'm kidding. Chris always comes across as a good-natured guy)
They're just upset they can't keep up with the perch train
People trashing manga because it doesn't have a LGBTQ content
Meanwhile Yaoi and Yuri genres: "am I a joke to you?"
i can see them complaining that it didn't represent them, or represent them in a bad way
this happen also in anime game, example, honkai impact
it's premise are heavily influenced by yuri theme
with a bunch of girl shipping each other with no male character nearby
those Lesbian and other LGBTQ found it and THINK they found something that represent them
but then when they look closely, they didn't like what they found and went full ballistic
the thing is, yaoi and yuri didn't represent them, those 2 are genre of Fetish
yaoi are a bait for those fujoshi, while yuri are for lily-girl (and cultured men in general)
it's a lewd literature, pretty much a porn book
maybe try shonen ai / shojo ai for a story that more romance focused
Listening to perch while bagging and boarding. The good life.
The great life.
Manga doesn't have LGBTQ+ representation????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????
Go watch or read Shojo Manga / Anime.
Just Sailor Moon alone has it all, Gay, Lesbian, cross dresser, transgender you name it!
There are really diverse story type. And excelent story telling. I currently do more manga ongoing that dc and marvel combined. Independent (image, Dark horse, Vault etc) and european comics are still the major chunk. Keep up the vídeos!
Hello ! , Ex comic book fan , currently reading Manga . Started with Jojo's bizzare adventure part 1 Phantom blood , currently reading part 7 Steel ball run , having the time of my life reading it . Honestly it feels like a journey unlike comic books that have like 1000's of reboots , though marvel is easier to follow DC is like messed up .
Great take on the X-Men. I miss 80's X-Men.
a subscription to digital shonen jump is only 2.15$ a month. you can check out a ton of manga to see if you like it. everything from dragonball to my hero academia. bleach to zombie powder. hard boiled cop and dolphin to moriarty the patriot. so very many titles to chose from. gotta catch'em all.
There are currently 962 episodes (including filler) of One Piece. I started at the beginning of the year with a goal to average about three episodes a day. By doing that I will catch up around November. I’m currently about 150 episodes in. My one problem with the show is that the characters can be too simple minded. The action and variety of the locations they go to is really great.
I've just started to get into modern manga, though I used to read a lot more of it when Eclipse and Dark Horse were doing them.
“People are afraid of what they don’t understand.”
preach ever thought about talking about European comics I always wonder what's happening there.
I get people don't like shounen because it can be cringe sometimes but just buy an adult-aimed manga? Akira, Berserk, Uzumaki, Gantz, Chainsaw Man, Sun-Ken Rock, Black Lagoon, e.x. There are so many genres and books to choose from I don't understand how you could definitively not like ALL manga. You just need something that's suited to your taste.
Cant go without mentioning Berserk, if you enjoy mature dark fantasy. Its got to be the best manga or comic media ive ever read.
I was a big fan of stuff like Macross and Gatchaman back it the day when it was shown here as Battle of the Planets and Robotech. I also watched shows like Ultraman, Spectre Man, and Space Giants. During the last 10 years as I've become more disillusioned with american comics I found myself drawn to manga and anime more than ever.
Used to be a huge X-men/Spiderman fan.........however, I only read/watch manga/anime right now. Totally done with the Woke American comic. I like story with real development and real ending, which comics can never give to their readers, not to mention American comic writers went total woke, only care about their politics instead writing a good story.
I'm LOVING your upload rate. I look forward to it daily.
Blood on the tracks. Volume 1 is a really good pick. Can not wait till i get the other volumes. It is unsettling and twisted. Its got tension. It has good art, and it is a very quick read ( 15 mins for 200+ pages ). Very much worth the buy.
I can’t get past the cartoony art style. It just doesn’t land with me.
Probably “not helping” is that most of it that I have seen seems to be black and white.
When I bother to read a black and white story, it is generally of exceptional quality like old Savage Sword magazines.
Maybe you shoud try Kentaro Miura's Berserk.
I was about to say the same thing.
@@Master_of_Merol81 I looked up some images and that is definitely better.
I probably still wouldn’t go for it because it’s black and white though. (I know, it sounds goofy, but keep in mind that I had to go back to a title that was cancelled 25 years ago to give as a good example of a B&W title that I purchased, so B&W really isn’t a big draw for me.)
That said, the images were less cartoony and the level of detail was pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion.
Perch I suggest Bakuman and "skullface seller Honda san" since off the top of my head they explain some of the logistics of making a manga.
I think that the distaste for manga is a cognitive dissonance like you said. The sheer variety of different genres is what American comics could have been had we not suffered some setbacks with censorship and business direction
Also, my brief experience with European comics I feel like America should take a page or two from too
Perch, whatever u do DONT READ THE BAKUMAN MANGA AT ALL COST.
@@annedrieck7316 why?
I don't know what the equivalent would be but the dr stone manga is great. It also has amazing artwork.
My thoughts: Manga doesn't have a good entry point for older comic audiences. (Let's not kid ourselves, those of us moaning about the way comics used to be are mostly older.)
Also, those that do give it a go are given mainstream recommendations that dont fit them at all.
Manga is easiest to get into when you are younger. Shonen (whether its One Piece/Bleach/Naruto, or My Hero/Demon Slayer) are written primarily for younger audiences. I got into it because the emotions were just... bigger than the cartoons I'd watch at the time. It would sweep me away, but those bombastic emotions about friendship etc don't jive as well with an older audience used to a faster pace and more 'adult' problems.
Trying to get them into Seinen, what is there? Berserk goes beyond what they are used to. Comics have been in a weird middle ground of being silly, adult, but not particularly hardcore...
Even getting the comic audience into anime is hard enough. Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell might be some of the better entry points I know... but that doesn't necessarily translate into entering manga.
I've considered showing my dad My Hero since it was still super heroes, but seeing a bunch of children running around with their silly problems is a lot to overcome long before the good stuff happens.
I dunno... just my thoughts. What do you think is the best point of entry for an older audience?
Well said. I will say that when I was starting to get into comics last year, I was having trouble knowing where to start. Thankfully, I did subbed a couple of comic RUclips channels for recommendations and can ask my brother about certain runs I should consider.
It is mostly about getting into it. I mean you can't get adults into western comics either by just showing them two random comics (Maybe one is MAD and the other is My Little pony). You have to know what they are looking for, and then guide them to those comics/manga. But assuming you know roughly what they are interested in, here are some suggestions.
Adventure: One Piece. Many might not like it after a single volume, but everyone who gave it a chance fell in love with it.
Mystery: Higurashi. You get to read mysteries, followed by reveals. If you solve it before the reveals, good on you. The backstory is extremely brutal however and made me sick.
School Drama: GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka). Sometimes comedy, sometimes drama.
School Drama 2: A silent voice. Good alternative if you want no comedy and a much more serious tone.
Western: Tri-Gun. Space western, but still with a feeling of a western with crazy machines.
Police: Gunsmith Cats. More adult content than most movies with police theme.
Crime: Black Lagoon. Follow a lawless group trying to stay alive working in the world of crime.
Sci-fi: From the new world. This one felt very unlike other manga and could probably be a good introduction to manga while still being a bit more like a hollywood movie.
War: The saga of Tanya the Evil. Alternate history version where WW2 germany were not the aggressors, but the allies around them attacked first. Introduces magic.
Space: Knights of Sidonia. Robots, spaceships, aliens, the usual.
Comedy: Too many options for this. For me Monthly Girl's Nozaki-kun is one of many good options.
I'd imagine the naked girls line of manga in general wouldn't be a first choice for getting people into the medium. But if you know they love porn, you could always introduce them to the porn-level of manga like Parallel Paradise, Destiny Lovers or How to build a dungeon. Though frankly just showing them hentai would probably be more of what they wanted than manga.
It depends on your audience/dad and their taste. What genre do they enjoy? Why do they enjoy that genre? If you can figure that out, you have a good chance of finding a decent entry point for them. There's a lot more than just Cowboy Bebop or GiTS. Let me know what he's interested in, and I can give you some recommendations. It might also help to check for suggestions on the manga subreddit.
I can agree with this im 19 i just started reading comics 5 years ago and i love most modern storylines same with most people my age that read comics because we dont know comics from the 80s and 90s
maybe start from more realistic topic and not school type (manga really like school stories after all)
some that I had in top of my head is like:
spice and wolf - about trade/romance/politics
kakushigoto - about parenting and facing your loved one's death (altho there's a lot of Japanese pun and mangaka culture so it's hard to get into)
spy x familiy - well about spy and family. so about more down to earth spy
The Way of the House Husband - comedy of ex-yakuza becoming House Husband
I'm also thinking about re: life, but not really sure about adult who become young again concept
as you said, there's a lot of adult topic, but its pretty hardcore or executed from a young perspective
do you think goblin slayer a little bit too hardcore? because for me it's just that early scene. the rest are pretty fine
Personally, my problem with mango, and Anime alike, is even if there is a lot of genre variety, there is not a lot of variety. What I mean by that, is that the series thrives on its troops, be at narrative or character. Its characters often repeat the same generic personalities. You can easily enter change characters from series, and it wouldn’t even change the outcome.There are mangoes that I do read, but they happen to be either fan published, or incredibly rare exceptions, where they do have their own distinct voice, and for that I praise them for it.
I think in some cases a genre require its tropes. I mean imagine a harem manga where the main boy isn't indecisive and just after chapter 1 proclaims "I'm going to marry this girl". Or the opposite, a harem manga where not a single female likes the main character. How would that work out?
Some tropes are also usually just a very good thing. Like if the main villain actually wants to do something for the good of mankind, but in short term it means the deaths of thousands. many villains are like that, but that also happens to be a very believeable way to be evil. It is harder to accept the "Haha, I'm evil so I am going to kill people for fun!".
There was a type of early graphic novel called the emonogatari (written in Japanese Kanji as 絵物語, which means big square picture story), which was highly popular from the mid 1930s to the mid-late 1950s. A lot of characters which appeared in such graphic novels were styled in a manner that is currently considered to be deep within the uncanny valley by modern Japanese literary standards.
In other words, Souji Yamakawa of Kenya Boy and Isamu of the Wilderness fame was the king of this literary medium; anime bodies combined with big uncanny valley eyes and rather creepy faces.
"What's bad is Being weeb That abandons Your culture and personality for anime" - fact
For me transitioning to manga is .... difficult. Even with the anime dubs I find myself at a loss because quite frankly it’s a medium made for one specific culture. Without understanding the Japanese culture I’m unable to laugh with subtle nuisances thrown leaving me at a loss. That said the entertainment value is far superior to the current crap the big two try to shove.
There are times I've had to Google or ask someone to explain a reference. But 99% of the time I can get enough of the meaning from context to make sense and then maybe go and find the nuance I missed later. (Frankly, I do a lot more googling as a newish X-Men reader than I do as a newish manga reader.)
Its natural to feel that way the first time u venture through a new comic from a diffrent country. After u get used to all the tropes of the manga may i suggest checking out the korean and then the chinese one.
You'll get used to it. Everybody has to start somewhere.
It varies. If you read Hayate no Gotoku it is filled to the brim with references, and it was a ton of fun spotting every single one 10 years ago, but these days I suspect I miss half of them. But on the bright side missing them do not make the manga worse. But technically I guess it would make it even better if I did not miss them.
I got into manga when Shonen Jump launched in America. I really think it's the black and white that holds it back here. Because even though I did like all the titles in Shonen Jump, they would occasionally print full color chapters and it was so much more appealing.
I have been watching One Piece since I was kid, when It originally aired with the ForKidz dub. I decided to finally buckle down and catch up to the manga this year and what a great experience it has been to be current. Love the community, especially the great content creators here on youtube making One Piece videos.
I became a big fan of The Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service a few years ago.
It's tagged as horror and has some morbid content but also quite a bit of humor and a lot of heart. Underrated.
One Piece has become my pandemic book. Fifteen volumes down plenty to go.
Ever since I found out your warm spot for manga I've wanted your thoughts on Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, hopefully sometime my bugging will get you to try them.
If you don't like Shounen manga, there are fifteen other manga genres you can dable in, the sky's the limit.
It's almost entirely dominated by superhero comics over here. Or, uh, gritty superhero. That's 90% of what you get.
I struggle with the right-to-left reading. That's a bit odd. But honestly I just have too many books to read to try it. I have 100 comic titles a month coming in, plus stacks of trades waiting, my favorite authors pumping out novels, and then some non-fiction books that need attention. I don't have time to bring on another set of books.
While I'm with you in that the section of Dragon Ball that is known as Dragon Ball Z (The Saiyan's arrival arc and onward) is not for me, the beginning era with Dragon Ball is one that I feel has a lot of crossover appeal with Western superhero audience. The Shonen Jump-style battle mangas definitely have a lot of crossover appeal with a Western superhero audience. (Shonen Jump has a variety though, but I feel the "battle manga" is what a superhero audience would enjoy.)
As you've mentioned before, Rumiko Takahashi is the great comedy/"slice of life" writer. Horror and indie book fans would like the works of Satoshi Kon and Naoki Urusawa.
I recently just read a manga memoir about a woman leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses. This is absolutely a topic I thought I would never see made let alone have any interest in reading, but it was amazing and I feel more educated on a random topic as a result.
So yeah: I think the art style is a barrier for a lot people or they stereotype it as *just* the Shonen Jump stuff, but there's really a lot to enjoy.
Perch, you put out as many videos as you want to! I know I'm always going to have something to watch that way. And I like the fact that you make multiple videos about different subjects rather than just one long video that is all over the place.
I would say one thing about Manga....At least in American, it's not very collectible. If you're going to get original books and you're going to have to do a lot of import collecting and that's not easy or cheap. And in America, you're looking at a lot of big paperbacks that are easily accessible. So, those 9.8 folks don't have any interest in it. The people buying it are reading it.
I would say that one difference in Manga and American comics, it's just whatever style you're into. There is a variety of stories in America and in Manga. But if you're into the tropes in American comics, you might not care about the Manga. American comics tend to be very superhero oriented. Yeah, there are tropes within tropes. You can have serious super heroes. Silly super heroes. Light books about heroes fighting evil and having fun. Dark books about anti-heroes killing villains. You also have horror comics, sci-fi comics....The more you drift into the indies, the more diversity you'll find.
Manga has it's own tropes and the people that love super heroes might not be as interested in those type of stories. You tend to have schools fighting each other, harems formed around some special dude, and a special dude who finds a bunch of friends to fight some evil and the characters get more and more overpowered as it goes along. And, just like American comics, the deeper you dive, the more diversity you'll find.
There are several factors other than these differences that can cause a rift. American comic readers tend to feud with manga people. With the strange state of the world where the traditional bullies seem to be going back into the woodwork somewhat, geeky schoolkids seem to be turning on each other and their hobbies more than in the old days. American comics and D&D have become accepted facets of life now, so these kids aren't getting beat up like in the old days as much for being into these things. So, rather than banding together and kind of sharing their hobbies, they "hobby focus" and feud about it. So, you've got Manga kids vs. Comic kids. Another factor is probably some jealousy. Manga is moving from book stores into comic stores, and the comic fans are probably annoyed they're sharing space with Manga kids. Those books with cute girls on the covers they used to occasionally pick up on a lark are now starting to fill up shelves that used to be filled with Batman trades. And when someone comes in the store, they're not necessarily talking about how they love or hate X-Men, but what they love about So I Married a Slime. The same thing happened with comic fans when stores started selling Magic cards. Something different taking up space in the store and people talking about something other than Infinity War. They get over it, but they might never do it themself.
I'm all over the place. I've read both. I used to pick up Shonen Jump back in the day and I liked it. Dragonball Z, Yu-Gi-Oh, One Piece....I can read them. Not bad stuff and they're their own thing. It's like American comics....If you can find the GOOD ONES, you'll probably have a good time! But, there is also plenty of knock-offs and crap, and if that is the first thing you pick up, it could ruin you. Just like American comics. I mean, Dragonball, it's not for everyone, but it's good on it's own. But if you get one of those Dragonball knock-offs, it could turn you off. The Japanese are just like Americans. If something does well, copy that formula and hack out as much as you can before the trend wears off. That is why you see so many Kaiju movies from the 60's, Power Rangers clones....Well, even to this day! The thing in Japan is that they won't stop producing if the trend slows down. They'll keep producing it until the trend catches back on! Kind of like American comics. If super heroes are boring, that's fine! Keep putting them out until the public comes back again! Anyway, Manga is just like American stuff. If you find something you like, there is probably enough of the same thing to keep you going!
I'm more of an American comics kind of guy, but I'll read Manga. I'll watch some Anime. But there just isn't enough time in the day to devour it all. I've got a job. I like to read novels as well as comics. I like to watch movies and tv. I also try to have a teeny bit of a life and get out and exercise and do things in public. So, when it comes to my sit-at-home entertainment, I tend to choose the American comics over manga. I don't hate it. I just don't have time for a deep dive if I'm going to keep doing my super hero stuff. But Manga IS a good alternative if you're tired of seeing Batman have wars with the Joker twice a year. And when you get tired of seeing if Hiroshi will marry Yuna the slime or Kava the Barbarian Princess from the Stellar Ganymede Empire, then you might want to check out Immortal Hulk. It's good to be flexible.
I've slowly started picking up manga. DEFINETLY studying the art style, story telling and cultural impact (thanks to your channel) I have Naruto 1 and read through it. The backwards reading is a bit to get used to but not bad. Artwork is top notch! Great storytelling from panel to panel. My main problem is some of the Japanese to English translation is a bit off. It's a direct translation in most parts and doesn't fit grammatically to me. Again, not a deal breaker and it's my first Manga so I'm not holding it against the entire medium.
I haven't gotten more into Manga as my Marvel, DC, Western Indie comics "To Read" pile is astronomical and to add more isn't utilizing my time as well lol.
Perch, you don't publish ENOUGH videos!
Go get em buddy 👍
I like manga. I prefer western comics, but I do read manga occasionally. I like the slice of life stuff and other non-action stories. My favorite manga is Crayon Shin-chan. It is funny and easy for me to read in Japanese. I also like Chibi Maruko Chan for the same reasons.
I don't like action manga. One Piece is difficult for me to read in Japanese and I don't really care for the art. I also don't like the pacing of action manga. I find that I can really only enjoy action manga when I'm binging it.
I prefer American comics because I like the art and storytelling style. I find it much easier to stay interested in an "Ame-comi" while it is still ongoing. I also like that they are in color and told from an American perspective.
I think manga is great and people should check it out. I also think people should check out American comics because they're pretty good as well.
I jumped on the manga bandwagon in mid 2017 and have no regrets.
I recommend a historical fiction manga, Riyoko Ikeda's 'Poland's Secret Story: To the Borders of Heaven' because it has Tadeusz Kosciuszko in manga form. Her Rose of Versailles was also great.
Please don't stop posting videos, I really enjoy them! :)
Hard to say for me. I'm Brazilian, and I grew up with anime (and eventually manga) since childhood.
In MHA, the young girl was the grand daughter of the family head he put in coma
I personally think uploading so much videos is good and bad. It's good because it's more content, and if one video doesn't interest me, there will be another really soon. That's always good. And, if I like a topic or a type of video, and you do a lot of that kind of videos, it's a win win. However, with such a giant library of videos, there is almost 0 chance that people will see even a small part of the catalogue (that's because of the algorithm) to put it simply: your content its like Shonen jump. It's a lot, every week. Its, and I don't mean to disrespect, kinda disposable (again, as jump) So, what does jump do? The collected editions, for the people who missed the weekly mag. When you publish so many videos a day, there is just not enough time for RUclips to promote the video and that video reaching more and new audience. A good way to combat this, and take advantage of your staggering upload schedule, is to make a very clear "best of perch" or "essentials" Playlist in your channel homepage. A lot of us who sometimes miss a good amount of your videos, or maybe just want to be reminded of your best, will appreciate it. And new people will have a good jumping point to your RUclips library.
Since I rambled in my prior comment, it is only fair that I provide some comic/manga recommendations: Curse of the Worgen, The Mask of Fudo Vol. 1, Magus of the Library, The Witch's Monstrous Paintings, #1. I'm a spider so what?, Ragna Crimson, Rising of the Shield Hero, Renjoh Desperado, Goldfisch, Black Torch, Ayanashi, Izunas,
Burning Hell (Mass Market Paperback), Arifureta, Grimms Monster, Yin and the Dragon, Die Wolke, Gleipnir, The dynasty of dragons, Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher, Grimms Manga
Tbh everyone will have their own perception to things new to them , after that period pass and they found something that's click with them , then it's smooth sailing from their.
It's hard to find that first click though.
Most common genre which is easily find which is shounen might non suit for adult audience taste , but seinen manga are not so easy to find or as popular as shounen . I myself find romcom as my most favorite genre which is not so hard to find , but something like psychological, thriller or horror are rather rare to find a physical copy.
If you like Kaijus stories, here with a very interesting take, read Kaiju 8
If you like martial arts, Breaker and its follow up Breaker New Wave, awesome manhwa (korean manga), or Kenichi : Mightiest Disciple
One Punch Man meets Harry Potter : Mashle : Magic and Muscles
My girlfriend is hesitant to some manga because of tropes that she doesn't like that at times are pervasive such as the pervert character etc. Ironically she said that she didn't like the art style of American comics. She did not realize there was not one definitive style for all American comics.
I tried reading Akira, but it didn't catch me the way i hoped it would. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but it just didn't. Next one i'll try is Fist of the northstar when viz releases new collection this year.
I think its simply because people who grew up with dark and brooding batman with his PTSD and "edgier than thou" attitude doesnt want to admit japanese comics is far more superior. I was a DC fan for almost half my life but I got tired of their sh*t storytelling and political agendas. I simply moved to marvel, and guess what, its the same over there.
I guess from someone who comes from the manga side and lacks interest outside of it (well sometimes I do especially if there's a friend), they are really good at trying the most obscure idea into a properly good story.
If you just go read synopsis from a random manga catalog, chances are you gonna find a weird story concept that may not be explored before.
and sometimes, it may not be the clearest execution, but it still could be a solid story.
I got five hardbound volumes of Berserk so far...
Getting Vagabond..
Digitally I read Violence Jack..
I'm blown away at these different styles..
I been punched in the guts in a way I've never been with Marvel Comics, which I enjoyed mostly of the 70s and 80s and early 90s..
But yes manga is the way now.. Fist of the North Star is my next project..
Also Samurai X with battousai the slasher I can't remember the real name it's called..
Also I couldn't do black-and-white when I was 19 and 20..
Now the black-and-white detailers brilliant