3DConnexion SpaceMouse Enterprise, Test Drive/Functional Overview
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- A hands on functional overview of the flagship 3D Mouse from 3DConnexion, the SpaceMouse Enterprise. Looking in depth at the function buttons, how they can be used for productivity gains and some tips & tricks along the way.
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If you're interested in buying one, this is a global Amazon affiliate OneLink which will take you to your local Amazon page...
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Your reviews are absolutely amazing !! Your advice was really helpful towards my purchase. Thanks :)
AWESOME! Both your videos were exactly what I was looking for!
I agree, this was excellent!! Thanks now I know everything I need to. An hour ago I was sure I didn't need one, I mean what for when I have full control with mouse and keyboard. Then I read a comment about using it while using a tablet for sculpting or painting or similar and that's when I stayed on it a little longer and now found this detailed overview. I mean the movement is crazy!! I'm sure it takes some training but that it can look THAT good and fast, well I didn't expect that at all! Thanks
So my enterprise kit arrived today, thanks for the great review btw, and im like were have you been all my life mr spacemouse
The snap buttons are super useful for one thing, sketching. The amount of times I've tried to make references to other parts of an assembly and I never click the right line, edge, or contour is amazing when I'm not normal to my sketch plane, and having buttons for the cube was one of the many reasons I bought one of these
Best review of the controller I have seen thusfar!
Decided to purchase this after having the opportunity to use one at a company I am currently contracting with. I made a consciouss effort to try and learn it, and as you say the navigator puck itself is super easy to get used to, while the keys took a bit longer. However I wouldn't say it's as hard as you say it is, it's just retraining your muscle memory a bit. It took me a couple of weeks before I decided that this is teh sh1t.
Mind you I'm a 3DS max super user to the point I used to access most commands via command line, but I still find programmable buttons totally worth it in combination with the 6DOF movement. You just have to be smart and work out which commands you tend to use most often and program accordingly.
To anyone thinking of whether they should get this or not - I wouldn't go back to keyboard+mouse combo simply for the navigation if nothing else. It's true 3D navigation. No awkward pauses in between zooming and rotating with a mouse while swapping shortcuts, precision is through the roof compared to using mouse and keyboard combo as well, and it's just beautiful and smooth way to navigate your 3D software.
It's expensive though but as the reviewer mentioned in the review video this is a top quality product, and while doing my research I've come across more than one comment from people who have had a single 3Dconnexion product for 6,7 years straight, so it's not something you'll be swapping very often.
Great reviews. Btw, the top-front-side shortcut buttons are amazing in 3DS max architectural work, probably most used buttons for me.
Only 7400 subscribers??? How is this possible? Did you just start? Your videos are amazing!!! As professional as the enterprise :D I'm subscribing just because you have under a 100k!
Great review fella I have. Thinking of getting one , i got a stream deck xl after seeing your vid love it for the right hand side , space mouse left …… we will be living the. Dream Dow here in New Zealand enjoy your Chanel👷🏻♂️
Your reviews are wonderful, and though I may not have properly thought through the amount of learning required to take on the Enterprise, I am one of the on's who has NEVER used a 3D mouse, I have also never used CAD software either, but I decided if I were going to learn, than I would do all of it at the same time. I have bought Rhino 6.0 and the Enterprise at the same time, I hope I can make the prices of bother worth while. I will tell you in another year if I bit off far more than I can chew, lol.
I've used a 3D mouse for just a few minutes. Long enough to know it's something I want. The problem is: most 3D software uses lots of shortcut keys. Reviews I've seen of the entry level models point this out. In fact, some reviewers say they almost never use their 3d mouse because it requires so much hopping back and forth between the keyboard and the mouse. So I think you're wrong assuming this device is only for people that are already super familiar with 3D mice. I'm a novice and very interested in one of the more complex models.
I don't want to spend $130 on the basic mouse only to realize I should have spend $300-400 on the Pro/Enterprise.
I'm a CNC programmer and just bought one of these. I use Esprit CAM software and Solidworks CAD software. The buttons on the right work in Solidworks. But I haven't figured out how to get them to do anything in Esprit. But the big benefit to me is the way the left hand buttons become an extension of the keyboard. And second how quick I can rotate and zoom into any spot I want.
Hello from AUS. BTW, I'm well impressed with your reviews. Now, RE: comment about V1, V2 and V3 views. I'm yet to buy the Enterprise (currently in training on the Space Mouse wireless), but if the buttons are programable then I would reprogram them to named views. For example, in AutoCAD I use a view named "A1" for my paperspace tab which is our drawing sheet - I would re-program V1 to be this view. In a multi-user environment of SpaceMouse, this should negate the issues with others replacing your custom views.
i love the videos and i just started watching them. i video i would really like to see in the future is abbot how to set up the toolbars and stuff. if you hawent alredey made one. then i just havent found it yet. sry beeed english hehe:)
Hey! Thank for the review! Can you describe 'Context' feature? I can change my keys to different features when I'm in different modes of program?
I compare it to Razer device where I can use Razer shift button to double my keys or KEYMAPS where I can create 3 different keymaps so KEY 1 can can do 2-4-6 commands.
Do you have same functions on SpaceMouse Enterprise?
The forehead slaps at 12:29 caught me off guard. I laughed and spit saliva all over my screen. Thanks for that haha
I own the SpaceMouse Pro(wired) and it works well enough. I really only use it in Inventor as the camera gets screwed up a lot. In 3DS Max the camera is fine normally but the space mouse can do fly throughs. I don't really use it except for streaming and haven't tried keyframing a camera flythrough but it can probably be done.
2:52 "Okey dokey, time to take the Enterprise for a test drive!" *Displays model of a race car chassis*
Where do you get your models? I want to do any model that i see, but i`m still a novice in inventor so getting some practice will give me more self confidence. Can you point out some little projects? I`m watching your videos and some tutorials of parts and then assemble them, like a suspension, a car engine etc...
I think the view shortkeys are useful for architecture, etc. (esp. the top down view). For the kind of model you showed here not so much of course
Is the cap different to other products in the range or is that part always the same? On SolidSmack.com, the reviewer said navigation felt tighter/smoother with the Enterprise than with the Pro. But I only read that in that single short review, and I don't know if that might just be a placebo effect that's so common with products that you're excited about.
I'm planning to get my first 3D mouse, at a reduced price for students, and by layout the Pro looks ideal to me. SpaceNavigator seems a bit too minimalist for my liking, and the Enterprise a bit overkill with its button clusters and LCD display (and sheer size). But if it has a better sensor for the cap, then there'd be little reason to buy the Pro for €150 instead of the Enterprise for €200.
hello, can it also be used in the Maya 3D program?
Can this mouse be used with Photoshop or any Photo Editing Software
5 years feel so much older than it is on RUclips.
What about a shortcut to Ctrl + Z how would you do that?
Nice, now we want a left handed version :-)
I'll stick to my normal spacemouse .. 😎
3Dconnexion's documentation (help file) is frankly a bit of hot garbage, I have spent hour searching over the internet for a concise explanation of the view buttons for the enterprise spacemouse and you delivered yet again. Please keep at it!
When I get really busy on a project, I dust off the old Space Pilot and think to myself. Why don't I use this all the time, it rocks.
Did you make the model of the car used in the video?
No it's a data set from BAC which they gave to Autodesk to be used in demonstrations and presentations etc
Good review. These things rock v1 to v3 good to know. Seems like better just to use for macros other hotkeys. Yo know your stuff. How about 3dcon gestures ever use
I have a 3D Conn SpacePilot Pro. I have had it for more than 10 years. Probably 12 years. I have forgotten what it cost me. It has been the best investment for me working with 3D CAD every day. I get frustrated without it.
My first thought on the mechanical buttons was just that....the noise. It's horrible enough hearing it over VOIP when gaming, having it in an office environment would be horrendous.
Using the spacepilot pro though, for Revit, one of the things I have done is remapped the view cube buttons to buttons on the keyboard number pad. Doing this, I can effectively get 2 or more functions from a single button since I can have a modified version of the number pad key using ctrl for example. Really handy for mapping undo and redo to the same key.
+Barboron Yea I can't bear the noise of this keyboard, I'm considering swapping it out as it does my head in. But yea that debate actually happened, it's in the comments on the original review video!
On a totally different note, I'm buzzing that someone other than an Inventor user has come across my channel! I've been capped to Inventor for 2 years so it's good to see some variation around here haha
TFI CAD Tips It actually was from using Inventor that I came across your channel. Just a few months ago was finishing up an inventor course and ended up in a job with Revit. Not exactly what I imagined but the job gave me the spacemouse pro since nobody else in the office was using them and there's potential for some Inventor.
Videos are still useful, particularly that one you did some time ago on the Inventor benchmark with gaming cards and CAD orientated ones. Just need to convince the company I work for to get me the new GTX1080...
+Barboron That's actually what I'm going to be focusing on in the future. Just out of interest, what GPU do you use now and what are you hoping to see gains in with the 1080? Just straight up FPS in Revit?
TFI CAD Tips At home, I use a GTX970 but my work computer uses a Quadro K4200. I doubt my job would splash on the 1080 but would be nice just for the sake of having, especially if I don't pay for it. The spacemouse doesn't work so smoothly on lare models in revit unless I cut out a small section or work on a single part. Would like to see improvements there although it would seem doubtful
Great idea - one of my most frequently used keyboard shortcuts is undo/redo! That was one of my very first thoughts when watching the video. My main focus is eliminating as many keyboard-to-mouse transitions as possible.
For the record, mechanical switches don't need to be clicky, and don't need to be loud. I see you referred someone to the Cherry MX Silent keys elsewhere in the comments, but don't forget, every mouse has mechanical switches (at least, every one that I've ever used). My CST trackball has mechanical switches, as well. No one seems to get kicked out of their office for those clicks!
They've crammed a lot of buttons in small area so I think mechanical switches that are used in keyboards just wouldn't fit, or make the device much bigger and bulkier. The square microswitches that are used in mice would fit well though.
that LOCK view button is useful,old spacepilot pro dont have it
Oh, yes, it has! Actually there are 3 lock buttons on Space Pilot Pro! Check closer...
I wonder if it works well with ArchiCAD!
In your personal opinion, realizing that it's very difficult at this point to quantify productivity gains...what percentage productivity increase would you estimate a CAD professional could realize when transitioning from the SpaceNavigator to the Enterprise? I read through 3dconnexion's PDF regarding this issue, but realized they based their calculations on a user who is transitioning from a regular mouse/keyboard setup, not a SpaceNavigator. My seat-of-the-pants estimate was 20% productivity increase. Does that sound high/low?
Yea it's almost impossible to quantify that with a number. I'd say that any gain at all would need to be on the assumption that you're fluent with the SME and it's 31 buttons, or at least the buttons you need to use, what I mean by that is once you're past the stage of hesitating and looking at what you're pressing and build that muscle memory. Once you're at that point, this is a totally plucked-from-thin-air arbitrary percentage but yea something in the region of 20-30% more productive if you can become entirely fluent with it. The downtime reduced from moving hands between keyboard and device would add up over time
Perhaps in a few months I will time myself creating a part with each, much like your right-click-menu video. I'll let you know how my own personal productivity has increased! (my SME showed up today)
Hey, I have a quick question, probably pretty noobie but nonetheless I can't figure it out. In Inventor Pro 2017, I have an assembly with a couple of individual parts. I had to make some holes in one of the parts and the only way was to do it in the assembly so it lines up and all with the other part. But I hit save and opened the individual part files, and it doesn't look like it applied the changes I made in the assembly to the individual parts. Any idea on how I can save it so it changes the individual part files as well?
You have to edit each part in the assembly. Double click each part in turn to edit them. Be sure you aren't adding the hole to the assembly. That wont carry over to the parts. In other words, edit the part files from inside the assembly. Use "project geometry" to get perfect hole alignment.
I know this is old but changes made in the assembly (modeling wise) wont filter down to the part level. If you want to see the hole when entering/editing the part then you either need to create the hole by editing/opening each individual part OR create the hole using "Bolted Connections" and that WILL filter down to the part level. Just don't add any bolt or nut and it will just create a hole. I think TFI did a video on this. Hopefully this will help someone. - Jacob S.
Can you recommend a decent keyboard for CAD. I love the "click" sound of a mechanical keyboard and I know some have programmable keys. Any recommendations?
Good question, I wouldn't say there is a good mechanical keyboard that is CAD focused and mechanical keyboards are going to be frowned upon in offices. But there's the Corsair Strafe RGB which uses Cherry MX silent keys (they're not silent though), the Logitech G510s looks solid for programmable keys and isn't mechanical, or the Corsair K95 RGB which is mechanical has 18 custom keys but isn't cheap.
Does anybody have the same issue as I do? The side rubber pieces (between the 'metal' and the buttons) of my 3DConnexion CadMouse Wireless seems to be stretching with use and is now too big for the gap it is meant to be filling - and this after only using the 3DConnexion equipment for 5 months. This results in a very uncomfortable grip and that has been quite an embarrassment in the office after spending $160 on a mouse that now looks like a piece of broken equipment.
Did they ever fix that issue with the v1,2,3 buttons?
Yes, V1,2,& 3 now working as they should do.
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Anyone knows the difference between ISO1 and ISO2?
3:49 hahaha
Around minute 7:41; you talk about the view cube snaps, and how for you or most users it doesnt seem quite relevant when you can already pan so fast with the cup. Except for maybe those that want to go to exact perpendicular views. I just wanted to give you an insight as to when that action is absolutely necessarily, when using and building in CAD Civil3D. For one, COGO points (or coordinate geographical points) dont show up in ANY view other than exactly top view. As well when generating line work or using explcit overlays, there are numerous instances where you need to see in exact view cube faces. The moment you showed what those keys did, my first thought was "Im sold, i need one", as i program and build in Civil3D essentially everyday and the time snapping between cube faces alone is tedious and annoying.
Who noticed the same BUGS when using 3D-Mouse? - very often the center of rotation does not appear on the desired
part of the model, or it can be located outside the screen. You can try to change settings - but this happens again and again. Latest drivers
installed. How to solve this problem?
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V1/V2/V3 don't work - product not ready for prime time. Still charging astronomical price
Now I’m dizzy :)
i have thought a better device.
No RGB LED, no thanks.
Your reasoning for why there are no mechanical switches in the mouse is a bit rubbish there are pretty near silent mechanical switches. And mechanical switches indeed are superior. They have a way longer lifecycle. Rubber dome keys tend to get brittle with time making them less useful the more actuations of the key happen. A very high price model should come with longevity build in. If I have to buy another one 5years later that item becomes quite a lot more expensive than if it is usable for 10-20years.
Absolutely useless with mac os(
the most expensive gimmick ever invented