Yikes! His 'buffer' at NYU are 'sensitivity readers'. God help us. When Aretha Franklin gets a 'trigger warning' in the Blues Brothers, for describing Jake and Elwood as 'two honkys dressed like Hasidic diamond dealers' all will be lost.
If this guy would have been a big fish in early 2000s, you'd not have watched Denzel playing Alonso in "Training Day"... "Because it doesn't portrait a man of color in a 'good way'" lol
Yeah, some of the buffer anecdotes are rubbing me a bit wrong, and I can see I’m not the only one. My personal pendulum is beginning to swing back towards wanting to see those “off” scenes and not letting producers decide what I can take
I hate tone policing. Granted, a stereotypical character is more a product of bad writing, but it should be addressed that way instead of accusing the writing of hating a particular group. I love writing female characters because they are afforded far more emotional range than male characters are, but there is a blatant lack of female characters who are awful people with no redeeming qualities because showing that will be translated into hating women. There are no movies where the hero guns down a series of female henchwomen John Wick-style because that would be interpreted as promoting violence against women. There seem to be fewer and fewer depictions of Amber Heard-type characters who don't also outsmart everyone and win in the end like in Gone Girl (a movie I love, btw). It has become increasing difficult for writers to freely write complex non-white/hetero/male characters who are flawed and imperfect and perhaps terrible people without being hit with accusations of some sort.
What is he talking about? -I've read a script about X, it was not good, it shows A, B and C in bad light, I told him to change it. Literally zero useful information.
If we can’t write about anything offensive you don’t have anything interesting. Why don’t these people look at the hero’s journey and read the part about how conflict and being pushed out of your comfort zone helps you grow. I hope they lose millions to see that most people don’t want this safe for everyone stale material.
Ridiculous perhaps, but he’s right about potential boycotts So the industry will never improve until the audience themselves first get their act together
If you grew up around whites then you can probably depict them accurately and authentically. I think the issue is when due diligence is not taken. And this producer is talking very frankly about very nuanced choices he encountered in his career, which I am grateful for.
@@hiplessboy But who’s defining “due diligence” to begin with? I feel like the bar gets raised every year, and only for purely superficial reasons; I refuse to believe even a single corporation’s shareholders seriously give a single crap about minorities of any kind lol
I am a Puerto Rican woman and I don’t understand the problem with the scene. But I don’t go around feeling offended for being a woman or Puerto Rican so why would I.
So basically what this guy is saying is that if your script isn't a feminist, "BIPOC" queer-fest, it will get rejected in Hollywood. You're not allowed to be funny, entertaining, or real anymore. Main message of the interview: don't f*ck with this guy or any of his homies in the film industry. No sh*t Sherlock 😂🤦♂
A lot of people on here seem to be triggered by the notion that gender/race/ethnicity stereotypes and poorly informed character cliches are simply bad writing by lazy and or ignorant writers, and that makes for a bad film usually, so producers aren’t interested.
'one of my goals is to make sure that I work and empower women, BIPOC and queer communities'. No need to be deliberately obtuse. @@adventurefilmclub2549
Writing is representing what’s in real world and stereotypes are part of the real world. There is no way to write a whole screenplay without having in it at least one thing we see in real life bad perceived or good. This has nothing to do with being offensive. But as a reader if you are sensitive and spend usually a lot of time through twitter and instagram comments, then your mind is rotted by other people’s opinions. You need to work on yourself before writing.
Legendary producer here! Lol, seeing people in the comments here who have clearly haven't had half the success in producing as this guy. If you were a good producer, you'd be getting interviewed, but all y'all can do is watch and whine. Go out and make a movie and touch grass
Pretty sure everyone is happy with their life in the comments, and they are commenting on some wack sh-t this guys is saying. As another commenter said "What is he talking about? -I've read a script about X, it was not good, it shows A, B and C in bad light, I told him to change it. Literally zero useful information."
Do you know why your last screenplay was rejected?
It wasn't a woke script
@@imadivergentandantinormiep7877 Bot?
Yikes! His 'buffer' at NYU are 'sensitivity readers'. God help us. When Aretha Franklin gets a 'trigger warning' in the Blues Brothers, for describing Jake and Elwood as 'two honkys dressed like Hasidic diamond dealers' all will be lost.
that was the icing on the cake, this interview turned way south after hearing that
Apparently, it was rejected because I never sent it. Typical Hollywood bullshit.
If this guy would have been a big fish in early 2000s, you'd not have watched Denzel playing Alonso in "Training Day"... "Because it doesn't portrait a man of color in a 'good way'" lol
Yeah, some of the buffer anecdotes are rubbing me a bit wrong, and I can see I’m not the only one. My personal pendulum is beginning to swing back towards wanting to see those “off” scenes and not letting producers decide what I can take
Just look back at the 70s where some serious issues were tackled with no filter and creates groundbreaking cinema in the process
A hard working latina bar tender is offensive??? Lmao.
Unreal right? It's disturbing how some people look at things with the intent to being offended or something.
Terrible interface. This is so typical of the motion picture industry today
I hate tone policing. Granted, a stereotypical character is more a product of bad writing, but it should be addressed that way instead of accusing the writing of hating a particular group. I love writing female characters because they are afforded far more emotional range than male characters are, but there is a blatant lack of female characters who are awful people with no redeeming qualities because showing that will be translated into hating women.
There are no movies where the hero guns down a series of female henchwomen John Wick-style because that would be interpreted as promoting violence against women. There seem to be fewer and fewer depictions of Amber Heard-type characters who don't also outsmart everyone and win in the end like in Gone Girl (a movie I love, btw). It has become increasing difficult for writers to freely write complex non-white/hetero/male characters who are flawed and imperfect and perhaps terrible people without being hit with accusations of some sort.
Jackie Chan beats 4 women villains once, in Armour of God (1986), that was cool.
No wonder movies suck today... they have to pass a gauntlet of raw nerves.
The only thing that gets through that sieve is pabulum.
What is he talking about?
-I've read a script about X, it was not good, it shows A, B and C in bad light, I told him to change it.
Literally zero useful information.
American cinema is dead. The best movies are coming from abroad.
If we can’t write about anything offensive you don’t have anything interesting. Why don’t these people look at the hero’s journey and read the part about how conflict and being pushed out of your comfort zone helps you grow. I hope they lose millions to see that most people don’t want this safe for everyone stale material.
Being picky and get a second opinion can sometimes weed out the crap, it's very situational.
So, should I have a white person help me write a story with a white protagonist? Honestly, this is getting ridiculous.
Ridiculous perhaps, but he’s right about potential boycotts
So the industry will never improve until the audience themselves first get their act together
If you grew up around whites then you can probably depict them accurately and authentically. I think the issue is when due diligence is not taken. And this producer is talking very frankly about very nuanced choices he encountered in his career, which I am grateful for.
@@hiplessboy
But who’s defining “due diligence” to begin with? I feel like the bar gets raised every year, and only for purely superficial reasons; I refuse to believe even a single corporation’s shareholders seriously give a single crap about minorities of any kind lol
@@corpsefoot758
Woke boycotts never make a dent, because it's a small number of pampered kids being very loud.
I am a Puerto Rican woman and I don’t understand the problem with the scene. But I don’t go around feeling offended for being a woman or Puerto Rican so why would I.
These Rock!
So basically what this guy is saying is that if your script isn't a feminist, "BIPOC" queer-fest, it will get rejected in Hollywood.
You're not allowed to be funny, entertaining, or real anymore.
Main message of the interview: don't f*ck with this guy or any of his homies in the film industry.
No sh*t Sherlock 😂🤦♂
Can anyone tell what does "misandry" mean?
“Their truth” loooooool
A lot of people on here seem to be triggered by the notion that gender/race/ethnicity stereotypes and poorly informed character cliches are simply bad writing by lazy and or ignorant writers, and that makes for a bad film usually, so producers aren’t interested.
No, he clearly says that he will only produce films that represent group x,y or z in a positive light. That canary in the coal mine? Dead years ago.
@@philthymcnasty4034 didn't hear him say that. Maybe you're hearing what you want to hear...
Maybe one of us is being deliberately obtuse@@adventurefilmclub2549
'one of my goals is to make sure that I work and empower women, BIPOC and queer communities'. No need to be deliberately obtuse. @@adventurefilmclub2549
Writing is representing what’s in real world and stereotypes are part of the real world. There is no way to write a whole screenplay without having in it at least one thing we see in real life bad perceived or good.
This has nothing to do with being offensive. But as a reader if you are sensitive and spend usually a lot of time through twitter and instagram comments, then your mind is rotted by other people’s opinions. You need to work on yourself before writing.
I write for myself.
Horrible.
Very informative
yawn
Legendary producer here! Lol, seeing people in the comments here who have clearly haven't had half the success in producing as this guy. If you were a good producer, you'd be getting interviewed, but all y'all can do is watch and whine. Go out and make a movie and touch grass
Pretty sure everyone is happy with their life in the comments, and they are commenting on some wack sh-t this guys is saying. As another commenter said "What is he talking about?
-I've read a script about X, it was not good, it shows A, B and C in bad light, I told him to change it.
Literally zero useful information."
Legendary? Yeah he's real Kathleen kennedy, and I say that unironically.
informative interview
Fascinating. Eye opening. Super helpful interview
The eye tha the sun can't reach
An awful interview
Great interview