I think the reason there is a lot of attention on blue lock's animation is because of a mixture of a lot of things. Firstly, a lack of momentum. The first half of season 1 was pretty decently animated with some very well animated moments (isagi's first goal, some moments in team z vs team v, etc) but starting from episode 14ish, the animation went downhill and was pretty much only reserved for big moments (barou's awakening, some moments with chigiri, etc). But because of the momentum of the first half of the season and because people were so invested in the story by that point, there wasn't as much of a spotlight on the animation and people were just enjoying what was being presented. Most of the goals from season 1 part 2 were not well animated at all, and when a player would dribble past another player it would be through a sequence of 2-3 still shots. Second thing was the movie release. Most fans were worried about the movie announcement because they thought that the time and effort of the production team would be better spent working on season 2, as not many people were interested in the movie anyways. This is where the beginning of the worry about season 2 started afaik. The movie itself was meh which increased the worry about season 2, and when the trailer for season 2 dropped, all hell broke loose. The trailer showed some of episode 1 and some of the worst moments from episode 2, which led to people believing that this was the best that the animation for the season was going to look like. At this point, pretty much everyone was talking about how bad the trailer was and how the animation for the season was going to be garbage, etc. So, once the season actually dropped, everyone was hyper focused on the animation and nothing else. Objectively speaking, the animation from season 2 so far is pretty much on par with the second half of season 1, besides the fact that season 1 had hair and shirt animations during the "still frames" as well as running animations. Episode 4 added some of this, which is why people are saying that it is the best animated episode so far. If they added those animations in episodes 2 and 3, I don't think there would have been nearly as big of an uproar. The biggest factor though, imo, is the fanbase and popularity of Blue Lock increasing. When a show gets that popular, not only do the expectations rise, but some people get annoyed by the attention its getting and begin to hate watch to try to find things wrong with the show. I've seen people on Twitter who post clips of the Blue Lock episodes like 20 minutes after the episode airs making fun of it. Then, RUclipsrs who react to Blue Lock hear about all the hate the animation is getting, and when they react to the episodes, they naturally focus more on the animation than anything else that is happening, and every other comment they make is about how bad it is. They add fuel to the fire, and that's how you get the kind of attention that Blue Lock has been getting. Thankfully you guys actually use your own brains and not rely on what people are saying about something to form your opinion on it.
perfectly put I honestly feel for fans who thought things would get better. I'm just a bit sour that we got so much shit, i banned a bunch of douchey commenters who were calling us stupid for calling the animation of last season what it was, and giving honest criticism to the show. But we went into this season prepared to hold back a lot and be more forgiving to the downfalls of the show. And all of the sudden, its now the IT thing to shit on blue lock, when in reality, while there has been a downgrade from the first half of season one, that downgrade happened far before season 2 aired and like you said there are many reasons why people didn't notice or chose to ignore it and defend it at the time. You could say its petty, but the backlash the production is getting now really stings for us. Its like being told you're wrong by everyone, only for everyone to hop on your bandwagon after you've gotten off. But hey, if the new thing is justifiably criticizing things, then maybe its time for BOLDcast to make a true and honest comeback
@@BOLDcast Yeah the main things that drew me to your guys' channel was the fact that you guys have actual critical thinking skills, and are not afraid to say something is bad when it is bad. Seeing that you guys are holding onto your opinions about the show and staying consistent with them even when they're not popular reminds me of why I started watching you guys in the first place. I feel like most reactors just watch the episode, make some meaningless comments during it, get hyped at the hype parts, then end the reaction by saying "oh yeah I liked this part and that part" and that's it. Most reactor's reactions to season 1 of Blue Lock followed that exact formula. Now that its popular to hate on Blue Lock, almost every comment they make is a negative one. Watching your guys' reactions is a breath of fresh air because it feels like I'm watching actual humans with their own thoughts and opinions, rather than someone who just takes the amalgamation of the general audience's opinion and regurgitates it as their own. If you guys stopped giving your honest opinions and critique, you would just become like every other reactor on the platform, which would be a big shame.
Disagree. For one, the issue S1 part two faced was budget. Animation was reserved for the big moments just like you said, and the rest was filled with just CGI and still frames. But still, they tried to at least make an effort. Here, they just took the still frames just so they can meet the deadline. An animator who worked on episode 2 already spoke up about it. Plus, looking at the overall story, it was necessary to well animate Isagi's goal, as well as giving more importance to Rin's and Shidou's clash. These two things have an impact later in the future. U-20 might be the most hyped up arc but that doesn't mean that's the only arc with important moments. Each episode had different directors as well like wth?
@@Rinnegan_user756 "For one, the issue S1 part two faced was budget" We as an audience don't really know the budget of these productions, so who's to say that season 2 isn't facing those same budget restrictions? "But still, they tried to at least make an effort. Here, they just took the still frames just so they can meet the deadline." The only difference between the stills from S1 and S2 are that the ones from S1 have hair and clothing animations, while S2 does not, at least not in episodes 2 and 3. I agree that adding those animations make those stills less "PNGy", but the stills from S1 are hardly enough to be considered "animation". "Plus, looking at the overall story, it was necessary to well animate Isagi's goal..." Was it "necessary"? How did the animation of that scene affect the story? I wish the goal looked better, sure, but I could say that for so much of the series. "...as well as giving more importance to Rin's and Shidou's clash...that doesn't mean that's the only arc with important moments." I totally agree, I have no idea why they omitted those parts. Maybe they will show them in the next episode, but that seems to be more of an issue with direction rather than animation. Again, I am not saying that S2 animation is good by any means, but I am saying that the uproar online is not proportionate to the decrease in quality of animation from S1. I understand why this uproar is happening, which is what my post was about, but I do not think it is warranted to be at the level that it is at. I love Blue Lock and I wish it had great animation throughout, but that's just not case and has never really been the case.
@@BOLDcast Blue lock had a "humble"-ish start. I remember just looking through the raws since the manga wasn't even translated yet, so for those circumstances season 1 was fine, but blue lock gained some serious success and with it serious money since season 2. Its a bestselling manga for a long time and sprouted into so much more. Imagine one of the big titles producing an anime so poorly.
Thing is season 1 animation started out pretty good, it just took a nosedive after the first selection ended, so I guess people just remember the first few episodes
That's exactly it, BUT there were still some good animated moments (Bachira's awakening, Nagi's goal against Rin, etc). We didn't get anything like that this season yet.
The issue with the animation isn't about "suddenly" changing for the worse, it's about blue lock being "too successful" prior to have this be a glorified visual novel which somehow manages to be worse than the manga. Context, blue lock outsold for a period of time titles like jujutsu kaisen, one piece, chainsaw man, etc. so imagine the outrage if any of those titles presented a visual novel. It's "pretty", but that's further salt in a wound as it's there to hide and distract from nothing being animated.
If you think the animation from season 1 and 2 is the same, then you are just blind period, they just got better at lighting in season 2, other than that, it is not the same😭
Yeah the conversation around the animation between s1 and s2 is mostly due to good will, back in s1 BL was the popular new show and the first part had decent animation so viewers ended up giving a past to the second part Now there’s a lot of expectations because the next arc is considered the best one and no decent first half to soften public reception, that combined with the fact that trashing on Png lock is just the popular thing to do right now and some really actual egregious mistakes, there’s one scene in ep2 that has an actual powerpoint transition and an animator has spoken out about bad working conditions which fuels the fire. So despite not much changing about the actual anime quality, public opinion shifted completely. I get where your frustration comes from. I think your mindset about it is probably the best way to go.
The quality is change, season 1 animation has it's own flawed but at least things still moving, in season 2 many frames is literally froze, even the animators admit that the animation is bad
Thanks for been real and dont following the hate train. Each episode the animation is getting better, and acording to what Isagi VA say, i had hopes for the U-20 match.
The start of season 1 started off pretty good actually with moments such as Bachira's dribbling, the second half was very noticeably worse and on par with season 2's 'PNG'ness but people excused it as the studio wanted to rush it out for the world cup so you didn't see as much hate for it. But yes the second half of season 1 was as bad if not worse than right now.
you're the only reactors that have actually realised its not much different to the first season lol. its really not that much worse if that. to me its not that much of a change at all
they used to at least run a bit and actually animate their moves now its png lock with powerpoint transitions and their moves are cg even the animators has spoken out, its not that they didnt do the work but the director is cutting out the animation they made because there isnt enough time to draw them out. In another universe we could have gotten a much more palatable season 2 (its still 8bit so its not going to be peak)
If they really think the animation isnt much differences with the first season then not only they are blind but also have no idea what they are talking about, season 1 animation has it's own flawed but at least it's still moving, many of frames in season 2 (especially ep 2) is literally didn't move at all. Like previous comments said even the animators has admit that it's bad, this is just boldcast think they are smarter than peoples in the industry like usual
Yeah they're lying if season 2 is the same as season 1. The problem with season 1 is the consistency is now where to be found but some scene is amazingly animated and they use more low fps to make char moving when the budget is gone meanwhile season 2 just png with visual effects and more CGI even tho it's close up moment .
No it is a lot different season 1 you saw people move and actually run. was it the best animation ever no, but there was far more animation than whatever this is. Blue lock season 1 had maybe poor animation at times sometimes okay season 2 has almost no animation its people standing still characters barely run. Everything is a still which wasn't the case in season 1. They used run a bit move around a bit. you see characters move the ball while passing somebody.
Your blind. Mabye some of the later episodes thats true. But in the first half of the season. It was 100x better. Even epaidoes in the second half are too
I will say the first half of season 1 did great, it’s the second half where they used a ton of still frames. I chalked it up to a rushed release and didn’t overly critique it because they showed what they were capable in the first half. I expected them to bring that again in season 2, unfortunately thats hasn’t been the case. I’ll continue to hold hope for the U-20 game because Im so desperate for that game to be as amazing as it was in the manga but it’s pretty grim.
To be honest the animation wasn't particularly great in the first season, but they've somehow managed to make it worse, like if you watch all of season 1 again you'll realize compared to this its actually good (this seasons is literally just sliding pngs). Also, as a manga fan, the next two arcs cement this story as one of, if not, the best sports manga of all time, so its immensely disappointing to see such fuckin cool artwork by the mangaka turned into this shit. Love the reactions tho guys keep it up!!!
Yeah its not like season 1 had great animation but its just that it was way better than this you actually saw people move a lot more there were not nearly this many still shots.
Yes, after the beginning season 1 animation was just on average level with some spotlights(basocally like most shows). But season 2 while has much better style in terms of each frame, there is barepy any animation at all to the pount where it becomes much more daring to eye. I literally rewatched season 1 before season 2 and i never felt that bad about s1 in comparison with what we have now. Some animators even talked about how rushed season was with a lot of cuts of completed animations simply because there is not enough time to finish it fully.
I just love this Reo's boylove shit with Nagi (I know it's not that, the mangaka clearly makes those jokes atleast as per subs). It's so corny but funny!
You guy's just weren't around when jojo part 4 was airing because best believe people were talking about the bad animation in part 4 and even in part 6 there was some discussion but nobody talked about part 6 because Netflix absolutely ruined any hype around it
@@307nishchay8 Meatriding season 1 based of what? nobody said season 1 was done by the people who animate for makoto shinkai i don't know what you are yapping about...... i think you not comprehending what people are saying. People are not saying blue lock season 1 had some amazing animation or anythin peopel are saying the animation in season 2 is barely existant in comparison. Yes season 1 didn't have movie animation either but nobody said it did.' Season 1 just had a lot more movement did it have super good animation no but its not really about season 1 being meatridden it was just better its just the truth.
@@307nishchay8S1 still had actual animation in every episode my guy. There were terrible CGI and a lot of still frames for sure. But still, there was actual animation for the most important parts in each episode. If you think S2 isn't different from S1, then you're clearly blind.
I saw an idea which said that they may have done this season from the end to the beginning to focus more time on the U-20 match and so they didnt have much time for the first episodes. And honestly with the quality "rising" by each episode, I am kinda starting to belive it lol (im coping immensely).
Guys I just want to let you know Blue lock story from next arcs are peak shonen indeed. I know the animation lacks and thats somehow sad but not to the point of all this hate (fans). But I do think fans, you guys and other youtubers should talk about it so maybe if they see it here or in reddit or anywhere else They can change that in the future,I mean for me only chainsaw man had flawless animation, (recent animes)even jujutsu kaisen was bad at times but blue lock story deserves so much better.
I'm kind of in the middle on this because while I do agree the Twitter hate train has vastly exceeded anything constructive or well-informed at this point, Blue Lock is something that by all rights ought to have gotten the Haikyuu/KnY treatment. Some of the most impactful and detailed weekly manga spreads in the industry right now, and it was the best selling manga by a landslide in 2023, even outpacing goliaths like One Piece. For THAT to ultimately result in typical seasonal fare like this, even if by conventional metrics it's serviceable, is pretty disappointing.
Listen, you can feel however you like but it’s not even that the animation got worse, per say, but that it didn’t get better 😭 salt in the wound, basically.
how do u guys feel about episode nagi? i think the first half is really fun but the second half i really didnt need to see the whole team z match again they couldve cut out like 20 minutes to make it shorter and they just put in a spoiler at the end without warning lol
People just shifted to the manga after season 1 and from its popularity and from how good the manga art is people had higher expectations and ontop of the art being better so the bad animation stands that existed frim season 1 out more people are complaining
The reason people don't hate as much in season 1 because it's not as popular as it is now, because it's a popular series it's suddenly cool to point out low effort animation when you'd find as much in season 1 if people slow down and zoom in the episodes like they did for this season
You dont need to ''slow down and zoom'' to notice that the entire episodes are colored pictures with 0 motion at all... season 1 had its dip in quality in the 2nd half but the 1rst half had good animation and 2nd half also had its moments. And btw, people were complaining about the CGI running wideshots in the 1rst season, now they even CGI the close ups and dont even animate the dribbling and goals.
season 1 animaton was not great,but i think it is disingenuous to say that it has not got worse this season.as for jojo i only watched this year and was surprised at the lack of animation in many episodes.but i think it is saved by the distinct art style
1:51 animation was at least there in a bare minimum needed with getting better at important moments. In this season even important moments don't have minimum level of animation which makes them so bad to look at in motion.
Yall keep talking about color blue lock need they credit one year compared to them other animals they doing good on color in animation just as last session in the story line
In general I don't see much of a difference too, but there are some moments, like Isagi's direct shot on episode 11 of season 1 that looked way better animated. In episode 4, when Yukimiya dribbles past Shidou, Reo compares his dribbling style to Bachira and we get a flashback of season 1 Bachira dribbling and right after Yukimiya dribbles past Shidou. You can clearly see the difference in motion.
I think this is a result of brain rot meme drama on twitter, ppl believe making fun of the series with powerpoint jokes is more appealing than looking at what really is with the good and bad.
Yes it has blue lock season 1 was never the king of animation but there is a clear difference between now and season 1 if you didn't notice how much more stillframes this show has right now you gotta get your eyes checked.
@@DBZFANX1000 honestly in moments where weird CGI would be used in season one they’re replaced with stills in this season and typically better drawn/highlighted to keep the tone, on top of the CGI this season being better overall tbh. Not saying it’s the greatest direction but it’s an understandable one. I hope there’s an increase for U20 considering we’ve seen nothing from that even in trailers.
I'm with you on this. People suddenly complain but the animation hasn't been the best often in season 1. What I htink happened is that people got hyped for season 2 and especially an arc that will later be animated so when they saw a couple of still frames they started freaking out. Personally I'm enjoying this show and will continue to do that. It's simple: If you like something, don't let other people destroy it for you.
its definitely worse than last season. but i hear your point last season was not good but the difference is they made more money than any other manga in 2023 and still failed to have good animation
To start of, first season didn't look good. If you think that looked good.. watch animes which actually have good animation. And good animation is not just action animation. Now, the second season, the hate is because ig ppl must have had high hopes that this season will look better than the (already average) first season's animation, but the 2nd season looks even worse than that. I agree with the art direction being good but that is never enough for a sports anime (ik its a battle shonen but it has football which is a sport), it should to the least have some movement. And the story in general isn't that good to keep watching it with below average animation. The reason why early one piece works with average animation and terrible pacing is because the story is too damn good! But for a show like blue lock to work it needs better animation, at least above average. Also nothing against the animators, they just need to be given sufficient time. Also watch AO ASHI😂
Well yeah i think we all knew blue lock season 1 didn't have super good animation but there was still a lot more animation than right now there was still movement you still saw people run a lot more. You saw the ball and feets move a lot more. and thats still a million times better than what it is right now. I think people misunderstand saying season 2 animation is worse than 1 as in saying oh season 1 had some god tier animation no nobody is saying season 1 had makoto shinkai on the studio but that doesn't change the fact that season 2 just looks obviously worse.
I think the reason there is a lot of attention on blue lock's animation is because of a mixture of a lot of things. Firstly, a lack of momentum. The first half of season 1 was pretty decently animated with some very well animated moments (isagi's first goal, some moments in team z vs team v, etc) but starting from episode 14ish, the animation went downhill and was pretty much only reserved for big moments (barou's awakening, some moments with chigiri, etc). But because of the momentum of the first half of the season and because people were so invested in the story by that point, there wasn't as much of a spotlight on the animation and people were just enjoying what was being presented. Most of the goals from season 1 part 2 were not well animated at all, and when a player would dribble past another player it would be through a sequence of 2-3 still shots.
Second thing was the movie release. Most fans were worried about the movie announcement because they thought that the time and effort of the production team would be better spent working on season 2, as not many people were interested in the movie anyways. This is where the beginning of the worry about season 2 started afaik. The movie itself was meh which increased the worry about season 2, and when the trailer for season 2 dropped, all hell broke loose. The trailer showed some of episode 1 and some of the worst moments from episode 2, which led to people believing that this was the best that the animation for the season was going to look like. At this point, pretty much everyone was talking about how bad the trailer was and how the animation for the season was going to be garbage, etc. So, once the season actually dropped, everyone was hyper focused on the animation and nothing else.
Objectively speaking, the animation from season 2 so far is pretty much on par with the second half of season 1, besides the fact that season 1 had hair and shirt animations during the "still frames" as well as running animations. Episode 4 added some of this, which is why people are saying that it is the best animated episode so far. If they added those animations in episodes 2 and 3, I don't think there would have been nearly as big of an uproar.
The biggest factor though, imo, is the fanbase and popularity of Blue Lock increasing. When a show gets that popular, not only do the expectations rise, but some people get annoyed by the attention its getting and begin to hate watch to try to find things wrong with the show. I've seen people on Twitter who post clips of the Blue Lock episodes like 20 minutes after the episode airs making fun of it. Then, RUclipsrs who react to Blue Lock hear about all the hate the animation is getting, and when they react to the episodes, they naturally focus more on the animation than anything else that is happening, and every other comment they make is about how bad it is. They add fuel to the fire, and that's how you get the kind of attention that Blue Lock has been getting. Thankfully you guys actually use your own brains and not rely on what people are saying about something to form your opinion on it.
perfectly put
I honestly feel for fans who thought things would get better. I'm just a bit sour that we got so much shit, i banned a bunch of douchey commenters who were calling us stupid for calling the animation of last season what it was, and giving honest criticism to the show. But we went into this season prepared to hold back a lot and be more forgiving to the downfalls of the show. And all of the sudden, its now the IT thing to shit on blue lock, when in reality, while there has been a downgrade from the first half of season one, that downgrade happened far before season 2 aired and like you said there are many reasons why people didn't notice or chose to ignore it and defend it at the time.
You could say its petty, but the backlash the production is getting now really stings for us. Its like being told you're wrong by everyone, only for everyone to hop on your bandwagon after you've gotten off.
But hey, if the new thing is justifiably criticizing things, then maybe its time for BOLDcast to make a true and honest comeback
@@BOLDcast Yeah the main things that drew me to your guys' channel was the fact that you guys have actual critical thinking skills, and are not afraid to say something is bad when it is bad. Seeing that you guys are holding onto your opinions about the show and staying consistent with them even when they're not popular reminds me of why I started watching you guys in the first place.
I feel like most reactors just watch the episode, make some meaningless comments during it, get hyped at the hype parts, then end the reaction by saying "oh yeah I liked this part and that part" and that's it. Most reactor's reactions to season 1 of Blue Lock followed that exact formula. Now that its popular to hate on Blue Lock, almost every comment they make is a negative one. Watching your guys' reactions is a breath of fresh air because it feels like I'm watching actual humans with their own thoughts and opinions, rather than someone who just takes the amalgamation of the general audience's opinion and regurgitates it as their own.
If you guys stopped giving your honest opinions and critique, you would just become like every other reactor on the platform, which would be a big shame.
Disagree. For one, the issue S1 part two faced was budget. Animation was reserved for the big moments just like you said, and the rest was filled with just CGI and still frames. But still, they tried to at least make an effort. Here, they just took the still frames just so they can meet the deadline. An animator who worked on episode 2 already spoke up about it. Plus, looking at the overall story, it was necessary to well animate Isagi's goal, as well as giving more importance to Rin's and Shidou's clash. These two things have an impact later in the future. U-20 might be the most hyped up arc but that doesn't mean that's the only arc with important moments. Each episode had different directors as well like wth?
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"For one, the issue S1 part two faced was budget"
We as an audience don't really know the budget of these productions, so who's to say that season 2 isn't facing those same budget restrictions?
"But still, they tried to at least make an effort. Here, they just took the still frames just so they can meet the deadline."
The only difference between the stills from S1 and S2 are that the ones from S1 have hair and clothing animations, while S2 does not, at least not in episodes 2 and 3. I agree that adding those animations make those stills less "PNGy", but the stills from S1 are hardly enough to be considered "animation".
"Plus, looking at the overall story, it was necessary to well animate Isagi's goal..."
Was it "necessary"? How did the animation of that scene affect the story? I wish the goal looked better, sure, but I could say that for so much of the series.
"...as well as giving more importance to Rin's and Shidou's clash...that doesn't mean that's the only arc with important moments."
I totally agree, I have no idea why they omitted those parts. Maybe they will show them in the next episode, but that seems to be more of an issue with direction rather than animation.
Again, I am not saying that S2 animation is good by any means, but I am saying that the uproar online is not proportionate to the decrease in quality of animation from S1. I understand why this uproar is happening, which is what my post was about, but I do not think it is warranted to be at the level that it is at. I love Blue Lock and I wish it had great animation throughout, but that's just not case and has never really been the case.
@@BOLDcast Blue lock had a "humble"-ish start. I remember just looking through the raws since the manga wasn't even translated yet, so for those circumstances season 1 was fine, but blue lock gained some serious success and with it serious money since season 2. Its a bestselling manga for a long time and sprouted into so much more. Imagine one of the big titles producing an anime so poorly.
Thing is season 1 animation started out pretty good, it just took a nosedive after the first selection ended, so I guess people just remember the first few episodes
That's exactly it, BUT there were still some good animated moments (Bachira's awakening, Nagi's goal against Rin, etc). We didn't get anything like that this season yet.
The issue with the animation isn't about "suddenly" changing for the worse, it's about blue lock being "too successful" prior to have this be a glorified visual novel which somehow manages to be worse than the manga.
Context, blue lock outsold for a period of time titles like jujutsu kaisen, one piece, chainsaw man, etc. so imagine the outrage if any of those titles presented a visual novel.
It's "pretty", but that's further salt in a wound as it's there to hide and distract from nothing being animated.
If you think the animation from season 1 and 2 is the same, then you are just blind period, they just got better at lighting in season 2, other than that, it is not the same😭
Yeah the conversation around the animation between s1 and s2 is mostly due to good will, back in s1 BL was the popular new show and the first part had decent animation so viewers ended up giving a past to the second part
Now there’s a lot of expectations because the next arc is considered the best one and no decent first half to soften public reception, that combined with the fact that trashing on Png lock is just the popular thing to do right now and some really actual egregious mistakes, there’s one scene in ep2 that has an actual powerpoint transition and an animator has spoken out about bad working conditions which fuels the fire. So despite not much changing about the actual anime quality, public opinion shifted completely. I get where your frustration comes from. I think your mindset about it is probably the best way to go.
The quality is change, season 1 animation has it's own flawed but at least things still moving, in season 2 many frames is literally froze, even the animators admit that the animation is bad
Thanks for been real and dont following the hate train.
Each episode the animation is getting better, and acording to what Isagi VA say, i had hopes for the U-20 match.
Rewath season 1 episode 1 the animation was really good ,the animation was really good until episode 13 of season 1
Most people only remember the latter half of s1 when they compare it to s2
The start of season 1 started off pretty good actually with moments such as Bachira's dribbling, the second half was very noticeably worse and on par with season 2's 'PNG'ness but people excused it as the studio wanted to rush it out for the world cup so you didn't see as much hate for it. But yes the second half of season 1 was as bad if not worse than right now.
A lie. Second half still had way better moments than seaosn 2 right now
.. if you can't se it your blind.. there's a ton more movement
You are blind if you think second half was on the level of this s2 mess
you're the only reactors that have actually realised its not much different to the first season lol. its really not that much worse if that. to me its not that much of a change at all
they used to at least run a bit and actually animate their moves
now its png lock with powerpoint transitions and their moves are cg
even the animators has spoken out, its not that they didnt do the work but the director is cutting out the animation they made because there isnt enough time to draw them out. In another universe we could have gotten a much more palatable season 2 (its still 8bit so its not going to be peak)
If they really think the animation isnt much differences with the first season then not only they are blind but also have no idea what they are talking about, season 1 animation has it's own flawed but at least it's still moving, many of frames in season 2 (especially ep 2) is literally didn't move at all. Like previous comments said even the animators has admit that it's bad, this is just boldcast think they are smarter than peoples in the industry like usual
Yeah they're lying if season 2 is the same as season 1. The problem with season 1 is the consistency is now where to be found but some scene is amazingly animated and they use more low fps to make char moving when the budget is gone meanwhile season 2 just png with visual effects and more CGI even tho it's close up moment .
No it is a lot different season 1 you saw people move and actually run. was it the best animation ever no, but there was far more animation than whatever this is. Blue lock season 1 had maybe poor animation at times sometimes okay season 2 has almost no animation its people standing still characters barely run. Everything is a still which wasn't the case in season 1. They used run a bit move around a bit. you see characters move the ball while passing somebody.
Your blind. Mabye some of the later episodes thats true. But in the first half of the season. It was 100x better. Even epaidoes in the second half are too
I will say the first half of season 1 did great, it’s the second half where they used a ton of still frames. I chalked it up to a rushed release and didn’t overly critique it because they showed what they were capable in the first half. I expected them to bring that again in season 2, unfortunately thats hasn’t been the case. I’ll continue to hold hope for the U-20 game because Im so desperate for that game to be as amazing as it was in the manga but it’s pretty grim.
Animators themselves said that they are not happy at all with how it went with season 2
To be honest the animation wasn't particularly great in the first season, but they've somehow managed to make it worse, like if you watch all of season 1 again you'll realize compared to this its actually good (this seasons is literally just sliding pngs). Also, as a manga fan, the next two arcs cement this story as one of, if not, the best sports manga of all time, so its immensely disappointing to see such fuckin cool artwork by the mangaka turned into this shit. Love the reactions tho guys keep it up!!!
Yeah its not like season 1 had great animation but its just that it was way better than this you actually saw people move a lot more there were not nearly this many still shots.
Yes, after the beginning season 1 animation was just on average level with some spotlights(basocally like most shows). But season 2 while has much better style in terms of each frame, there is barepy any animation at all to the pount where it becomes much more daring to eye. I literally rewatched season 1 before season 2 and i never felt that bad about s1 in comparison with what we have now. Some animators even talked about how rushed season was with a lot of cuts of completed animations simply because there is not enough time to finish it fully.
I just love this Reo's boylove shit with Nagi (I know it's not that, the mangaka clearly makes those jokes atleast as per subs). It's so corny but funny!
that intro was fire holy moly
U gotta rewatch first half of s1 a lot of people forget how good animation was at the beginning
not really I rewatched it , sure it was better than what we are getting but definitely not good ,a lot of still frames
@@AdityaThakur-kn8tybro you can't make a 24 episode of football anime with constant movement.
@@MrMolorik but there is so little movement man ,literally just frames with effects , once you start noticing it then you can't stop
the title is so funny actually lmao
You guy's just weren't around when jojo part 4 was airing because best believe people were talking about the bad animation in part 4 and even in part 6 there was some discussion but nobody talked about part 6 because Netflix absolutely ruined any hype around it
If you guys can't see the clear difference between s1 and s2 you're either blind or you don't remember anything about season 1.
Aside from first 10 ep, s1 had nothing special animation. Maybe you are just meatriding s1 too much.
Even the animator admit how bad the animation is, this is just boldcast think they are smarter than people in the industry as usual
@@307nishchay8 Meatriding season 1 based of what? nobody said season 1 was done by the people who animate for makoto shinkai i don't know what you are yapping about...... i think you not comprehending what people are saying. People are not saying blue lock season 1 had some amazing animation or anythin peopel are saying the animation in season 2 is barely existant in comparison. Yes season 1 didn't have movie animation either but nobody said it did.'
Season 1 just had a lot more movement did it have super good animation no but its not really about season 1 being meatridden it was just better its just the truth.
@@307nishchay8S1 still had actual animation in every episode my guy. There were terrible CGI and a lot of still frames for sure. But still, there was actual animation for the most important parts in each episode. If you think S2 isn't different from S1, then you're clearly blind.
Womp womp. You all can continue crying and bitching and people will still enjoy the show.
I saw an idea which said that they may have done this season from the end to the beginning to focus more time on the U-20 match and so they didnt have much time for the first episodes. And honestly with the quality "rising" by each episode, I am kinda starting to belive it lol (im coping immensely).
I am guessing 'The Flow' is going to be like 'The Zone' from koroko's basketball?!
Can understand the disappointment but I'll hold my thoughts until we actually see the U20 match, since thats big part of the season
Guys I just want to let you know Blue lock story from next arcs are peak shonen indeed. I know the animation lacks and thats somehow sad but not to the point of all this hate (fans). But I do think fans, you guys and other youtubers should talk about it so maybe if they see it here or in reddit or anywhere else They can change that in the future,I mean for me only chainsaw man had flawless animation, (recent animes)even jujutsu kaisen was bad at times but blue lock story deserves so much better.
I'm kind of in the middle on this because while I do agree the Twitter hate train has vastly exceeded anything constructive or well-informed at this point, Blue Lock is something that by all rights ought to have gotten the Haikyuu/KnY treatment. Some of the most impactful and detailed weekly manga spreads in the industry right now, and it was the best selling manga by a landslide in 2023, even outpacing goliaths like One Piece. For THAT to ultimately result in typical seasonal fare like this, even if by conventional metrics it's serviceable, is pretty disappointing.
Listen, you can feel however you like but it’s not even that the animation got worse, per say, but that it didn’t get better 😭 salt in the wound, basically.
Guys, guys… Blue Lock? More like PNG Lock! Am I right guys?
Guys?
how do u guys feel about episode nagi? i think the first half is really fun but the second half i really didnt need to see the whole team z match again they couldve cut out like 20 minutes to make it shorter and they just put in a spoiler at the end without warning lol
People who complain probably never saw seven deadly sins final season animation
Nah, the animation this season was WAY WORSE this season
Damn, Peak intro Carson
People just shifted to the manga after season 1 and from its popularity and from how good the manga art is people had higher expectations and ontop of the art being better so the bad animation stands that existed frim season 1 out more people are complaining
The reason people don't hate as much in season 1 because it's not as popular as it is now, because it's a popular series it's suddenly cool to point out low effort animation when you'd find as much in season 1 if people slow down and zoom in the episodes like they did for this season
The problem here is absolutely not "low effort".
You dont need to ''slow down and zoom'' to notice that the entire episodes are colored pictures with 0 motion at all... season 1 had its dip in quality in the 2nd half but the 1rst half had good animation and 2nd half also had its moments. And btw, people were complaining about the CGI running wideshots in the 1rst season, now they even CGI the close ups and dont even animate the dribbling and goals.
season 1 animaton was not great,but i think it is disingenuous to say that it has not got worse this season.as for jojo i only watched this year and was surprised at the lack of animation in many episodes.but i think it is saved by the distinct art style
1:51 animation was at least there in a bare minimum needed with getting better at important moments. In this season even important moments don't have minimum level of animation which makes them so bad to look at in motion.
Canva stocks are on the rise with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️
People do talk about jojo animation all the time you just don't see it
Dw U20 is gonna cook 🔥🙏
I think carson forgot that in season 1 there was actual animation. Now there is none. Sooo yeah.
Yall keep talking about color blue lock need they credit one year compared to them other animals they doing good on color in animation just as last session in the story line
Have you guys decided to react to Blue Box?
Episode Nagi and Haikyu the dumpster battle please😸
ep 4 animation was crazy good
In general I don't see much of a difference too, but there are some moments, like Isagi's direct shot on episode 11 of season 1 that looked way better animated. In episode 4, when Yukimiya dribbles past Shidou, Reo compares his dribbling style to Bachira and we get a flashback of season 1 Bachira dribbling and right after Yukimiya dribbles past Shidou. You can clearly see the difference in motion.
I think this is a result of brain rot meme drama on twitter, ppl believe making fun of the series with powerpoint jokes is more appealing than looking at what really is with the good and bad.
It’s significantly worse than s1
finally a breath of fresh air someone actually sees that the animation has not changed that drastically
It in fact has.
Yes it has blue lock season 1 was never the king of animation but there is a clear difference between now and season 1 if you didn't notice how much more stillframes this show has right now you gotta get your eyes checked.
@@DBZFANX1000 honestly in moments where weird CGI would be used in season one they’re replaced with stills in this season and typically better drawn/highlighted to keep the tone, on top of the CGI this season being better overall tbh. Not saying it’s the greatest direction but it’s an understandable one. I hope there’s an increase for U20 considering we’ve seen nothing from that even in trailers.
Finally some people with common sense.
I'm with you on this. People suddenly complain but the animation hasn't been the best often in season 1. What I htink happened is that people got hyped for season 2 and especially an arc that will later be animated so when they saw a couple of still frames they started freaking out. Personally I'm enjoying this show and will continue to do that. It's simple: If you like something, don't let other people destroy it for you.
Please watch episode nagi!
You guys should watch the episode Nagi movie. Better animation and canon contents about Reo, Nagi and Barou
its definitely worse than last season. but i hear your point last season was not good but the difference is they made more money than any other manga in 2023 and still failed to have good animation
Nah s2 is much worse compared to s1
To start of, first season didn't look good. If you think that looked good.. watch animes which actually have good animation. And good animation is not just action animation. Now, the second season, the hate is because ig ppl must have had high hopes that this season will look better than the (already average) first season's animation, but the 2nd season looks even worse than that. I agree with the art direction being good but that is never enough for a sports anime (ik its a battle shonen but it has football which is a sport), it should to the least have some movement. And the story in general isn't that good to keep watching it with below average animation. The reason why early one piece works with average animation and terrible pacing is because the story is too damn good! But for a show like blue lock to work it needs better animation, at least above average.
Also nothing against the animators, they just need to be given sufficient time. Also watch AO ASHI😂
Well yeah i think we all knew blue lock season 1 didn't have super good animation but there was still a lot more animation than right now there was still movement you still saw people run a lot more. You saw the ball and feets move a lot more. and thats still a million times better than what it is right now.
I think people misunderstand saying season 2 animation is worse than 1 as in saying oh season 1 had some god tier animation no nobody is saying season 1 had makoto shinkai on the studio but that doesn't change the fact that season 2 just looks obviously worse.