A crucial safety fact that nobody seems to notice is that, because it uses ducted fans rather than large, exposed propellers, the Lilium Jet is the only EVTOL that won't risk cutting the stringers to its emergency parachute. Imagine an asymmetrical power loss during the vertical climb phase. The craft will likely roll to one side as the paracute is automatically deployed. Even with extremely fast rotor braking, the time to stop the props will still count against the time needed to deploy the chute. With this low altitude phase taking place at least twice per true EVTOL flight, the safety of a shrouded powerplant should not be overlooked
How many years have they been around? How many full-scale prototypes do they have flying? How much can they carry? All they have essentially is an interior mockup. All they've really done is waste money, and that's gonna end sooner than later
They haven't wasted the money. They've taken it from the very rich and some poor investors, and made themselves richer. Just a bit of wealth transfer. In five years there will be nothing left of Lillium. That's my guess.
Talking about safety: claimed 110 miles range (I love these round numbers) with no hint of an ice protection system! For that matter only a few miles in icing conditions would be enough to doom an aircraft. So, 110 miles range in non icing conditions or lilium stays on ground. Where's the icing protection system? By the way, no eVTOL thing seem to have any hint of such a fundamental system for safe aviation... Next time we talk about air conditioning... Do the 110 mile include a working VCS and heating system?
It is cool, but a few points. 1) the electricity has to come from somewhere, 2) the plants and the oceans need CO2 to survive then they produce oxygen, 3) are the batteries lithium, since we know how well they are doing in cars? But it would be an excellent alternative for short range helicopters. Helicopter rotors are very noisy and the Lilium can to one thing helicopters can't; glide.
Any RC pilot can tell you ducted fans use more current than is optimal. They look awesome and do work, but a design that uses traditional props will be more energy efficient in my opinion. Beta Technologies has already outperformed with manned flight in their non-vtol configuration.
It uses more current only on landing and take off. When on flight mode it s not only very efficient but also more stable as well as faster than regular eVTOL with rotors.
@@livingroomguitarist7 Yes that s what matters. Most part of the flight will be about the forward flight. Take off and landing only few seconds of the whole journey. Lilium design makes it very efficient on forward flight also faster and stable, more like jet actually, not helicopter like other eVTOL. It s also relatively quite and have the most load on board.
@@livingroomguitarist7 Their first jets will be delivered 2026 with the range of about 175 km with full load, with upgraded battery after that. They will have first full scale flight test early 2025 and ground test late this year. So they are building two full scale prototype while we speak now.
My first time watching this channel, I'm thinking, I'm amazed at the aviation innovations, very futuristic. Then i say to myself, it's not futuristic, it's present day.
There have been some very reasonable questions asked about why there isn't a full sized prototype flying showing that it can achieve the load and range required for commercial work of this nature. The competitors are already doing this - Joby, Archer etc. There have also been some disturbing analysis shared by aeronautical engineers shedding light on the shortcomings for the engineering of this aircraft. They are building batteries which is completely unnecessary since CATL already have better battery technology suitable for flight.
elicopter and more economical . This aircraft can also be a game changer for islands like in the Maldives 🇲🇻. Instead of using a sea plane to get from the airport to a resort passengers can use this eVtol. Even in Africa where certain mines are very difficult to reach by road the Lillium jet can fly workers to a mine area quickly and then fly them back to the city quickly without taking a long aching road trip. Maybe if Amazon gets one for rural shopping orders, delivery people can fly the eVtol to the farm, land by the farm house and deliver the order. I think is a great alternative to helicopters 🚁 because Lillium jet has less running costs and it’s more efficient than a helicopter 🚁 because it can fly like an airplane . I think eVtols have a lot of potential and beneficial to the environment and customers. I wish Lillium nothing but great success for the future and since I live in Middle East I would definitely book a ticket on one of the jets when they come to Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
Why do they keep pushing the "noise profile" sure it is quieter in normal flight but hovering noise/wind will be immense and limit where they can be deployed.
Theranos Blood testing made Billions in investment - Nickola Hydrogen Truck made Billions in investment - Lithium Jet will make Billions in investment. Can you see the pattern?
You left out one word. He said "Zero OPERATING emissions". Which is fairly close to truth. They are not denying emissions in manufacturing or in generating the electricity.
@@5353Jumper thank you Jupiter, i missed that. I need to correct myself it wasn’t BS it was clever BS. As sustainable as the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
@@5353Jumper Jumper you are right i missed the word “Operating”. So i need to correct myself .. “i’m allergic to both BS and clever BS”. This thing is as sustainable as the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
@krusty1974 all flying cars are a terrible idea, this is no exception. VTOL is never energy efficient. But yes, in operation, this thing has nearly zero carbon emissions.
@@5353Jumper ..unfortunately as CO2 is “the gas of life”, the more the better. So really nothing environmentally positive out of this plastic toy. I still think it’s very cool and a very well done project. If they could just cut out the “Sustainable” BS from its advertisement…
For those who think this is just a concept with no actual flight demonstrator even flying yet, go watch this video: _Lilium Jet Achieves Full Transition On Wings And Canard_ You'll see the prototype in flight.
Yes, fantastic. They showcased a takeoff, transition, and landing, something myriad companies have done in far less time. It's odd that they don't show any performance figures like cell heating, discharge rates, final SOC, and PAYLOAD. They are selling you and everyone else a lie. They reason they don't show you payload and useable range is because it's BAD. Lilium is going to crash and burn hard. This video is meant to give the impression that they have it figured out. I don't know a SINGLE engineer that doesn't laugh when Lilium is brought up. Unless they are sitting on pack-level energy densities that are astronomically higher than anyone else, they are done.
This is only a mockup. They dont even have a full scale test model yet. No control surfaces. Major power failure and you are done. It would drop out of the sky out of control.
I am doing research on it's infrastructure facilitation by installing solar power plants and Tesla /BYD kind of battery banks for night charging etc and the charging station distance like cell towers maximum 100 miles from each others. so it will be a hybrid solution what nearest resources available near a charging station .
Man I've been following the development of this plane for 3 or 4 years, you guys must be onto something because the level of haters in the comments section is worse than any political Channel currently on the internet. I thought the company doing development was working out of Arizona, and was American owned has there been a change in ownership or am I misremembering? Keep up the work look forward to seeing this in production.
It was always German actually haha, the company started in Munich, Germany. But they do in fact plan to have the US as an important market, especially Florida in the beginning and they already signed a lot of MoU there. So u guys in the US probably will see the Lilium Jet before Germany can xD
Better than Rocket is here Easy lift off Easy land on with antigravity Spaceship No Fire No Explosion No Flame Just Spin and Lift off Powered by Baterry Work base on Gravity just spinning by using Battery can fly in bad weather, plunge in the ocean even in outer space Can lift more than 100 Ton Earth which weight predict 600 trillion ton does not fall at the Sun because of centrifugal in orbitting, on the contrary it does not be thrown far go out the orbit line of hold by gravity at the Sun as orbit center. Gravity and centrifugal is equal called Equillibrium, thats why until now Earth which we was inhabited always rotate and circulate the Sun. Now we justly take example : how if the gravity used and centrifugal is negated? The Earth will float far leave the Sun. So that centrifugal can be used to fly far away if gravity eliminated. Finally how to eliminate gravity? It’s way rotate part of aircraft by horizontal. When that rotation faster centrifugal force getting greater and the gravity getting smaller, finally it lose the gravity and the aircraft start flying. Of course people would surprise: how the aircraft can keep rotate without fulcrums? Thats why we named that aircraft Shuttling System that is aircraft likes two disc adjoining attached in the midle as fulcrums: A. The Top part, we name Positive rotate to right, and the edges is getting thicker and havier. B. The Buttom part, we name Negative rotating to left, and the edges is getting thicker and havier. C. Middle Part , we name Neutral, air crew placed and also machine and everythings turning Negative and Positive at the same time. The aircraft can liftup added with explosion from the engine. However that aircraft construction later, let the engineer doit it, and we are sure the aircraft will bulletproof and also waterproof. . . In modern civilization where human being generally using flying saucer as vehicle, will a lot of change in lives either in materialism and in psychological. In materialism area will apply the change in life like. People no longger need roadway and rel road which spend large of energy, money, places, things and time, object place and time. People would utilize that area for habitat or for other need:
Rocket is complicated and dificulte Low safety and high cost We need somethings better Developing technologies to enable human access to space at dramatically lower cost and increased reliability #FeelFree
Poor diddums. An aircraft with a low range, no anti/de-icing capability, poor hot and high performance that will expensively solve problems that don’t exist.
I'll bet anybody 100k$ that it wont enter service in 2026. They seem more interested in making deceptive luxury mockups than making anything actually work. 90m$ funding by 2017, 224m€ more in 2020. And have yet to fly with a person or person equivalent weight. That's impressive.
Charging the battery and the making of said batteries did a lot of damage before anyone even purchased, the environment isn't self sustained if your rip winning lithium for garbage electric vehicles.
Marshall J Corbett of Grumman patented laser generated cold plasma going back to Mary Kenney's patented Ground based STOL fans are essential for urban arial mobiltiy.
Just like with normal aircraft, it probably stays grounded in extreme weather. Otherwise refer to EVs operating in the extremes of Northern Norway or e.g. Death Valley. Not saying it's not a challenge but it's a predictable issue with predictable performance that can be tested for that in practice isn't stopping people from using EVs either.
110 miles??? A trip from the city mansion to the country estate in one hour - perfect for any millionaire... Wait, he already has a Land Rover for that?!
@@EarthCreature.No. A jet is a gas turbine engine powered by the expansion of jet fuel burning with air. This is just a ducted fan. A propeller in a tube.
This is only a mockup. They dont even have a full scale test model yet. No control surfaces. Major power failure and you are done. It would drop out of the sky out of control.
Clearly this will have no success without a three or four hundred mile range. 100 miles, you jump in the Lambo and have a great ride. And for that to happen a new battery technology must be found.
Lilium = 😛 Me = 🤔 Until there's some convincing evidence otherwise, Lilium to me is just another religion. Faith, belief, shiny props, bright-eyed disciples, talk of techno-miracles, and the promise of a wonderful future is all very well, but we've still not seen one in operation. No, not a sleek scale model; I mean a crude, full-size prototype. A test-mule, if you will. Show me the donkey! It doesn't have to look good, just be complete enough to prove the idea works in the real world. We need to see passengers getting carried away before we get... carried away.
So far, so good. we have seen CGI. We have seen mockups, models, and prototypes. It's a beautiful design. When will we see a full-sized prototype in the air? The man said by the end of the year, so we presume he means some time in 2024. Looking forward to that. Perhaps by the time they get it airborne, some improved batteries will be available.
Sister, we‘ve seen a full sized 5-seater prototype in the air since 2019. Your comment defo is one of the most clueless I‘ve ever read. Why is it so hard to first think or do research, and then write a comment?
A 100 mile range for an electric plane is awful, it sucks. Almost all electric air craft have a better range and all cars. So what's the holdup? New batteries promise to double or triple the range of electric air craft with a 500 watt/hour per pound range, they are already in production and others will copy them soon.
Lilm has been using Palantir software for research, manufacturing, maintenance, supply chain and many things. It will be successful for sure soon, no doubt.
electric air taxis, have they not learned anything from the automotive industry. Many of these companies are going to end up on the trash heap of history.
Vtol is unnecessary for normal operations. And electric aircraft should be built with a glide ratio that can stay airborne if something fails. Flying electic with no redundancy is dumb.
Having 30 ducted fan proppelers means having 30 motors that can fail. Redudancy? No , no just lack of aerodynamics . These 30 propellers cause too much drag. Less is more, simplicity is the way to go. Learn from the birds, or from Embraer's EVE minimalist evetol which has attracted almost 3000 pre-orders. The Brazilian invented the plane (Albert Santos du Mont) and they are go to invent the Evetols
100 miles range.150 m/hour speed. That's less than 45 mins fight time. Charge time also 45 mins. Only useful for very short trips, but if the trip is too short, a car take about the same time, with less hustle. Meaning is only useful people that frequently take 50-100 mile trips, or for those who are willing to fight 45 mins, charge 45, repeat all the way. That's if you don't take into account the pre-fight checks for safety. Not to mention bad weather. Is the cost of this new toy worth it? The market for it appears to be very limited, because even if you had the money, it would still be more efficient to have a car for short trips, and a regualar plane for long trips. Also, a bit suspicious they don't have sound on the demo video... A small drone with only 4 propellers is very loud, so I doubt this is much better than a helicopter. Not trying to hate. The concept looks cool, but is just not very practical, and therefore not realistic... especially not with that range. They should try to make a regular fuel version... But they won't, because they love pushing the "we have to go all electric" message.
Don't ya think you should fly it 1st with a representative payload?? Has never flown with ANY payload except for the batteries which last less than 15 minutes. SCAM ALERT
The test aircraft had ordinary Li-Ion batteries, for the real model they have developed batteries with 330 Wh/kg. How do you know they didn't simulate the payload?
@@aleksanderpegan4015 330wh/kg is very possible but perhaps you should look at the power consumption of a ducted fan. No way this pencils out unless the energy storage reaches 700-800 wh/kg. No time soon. Very inefficient.
@@aleksanderpegan4015 it would be 90% if you could get fully out of the hover within 5 seconds... Sure. Research the energy/min/lb thrust of a ducted fan. Half the battery shot for takeoff and landing. Where ya going?
@@brianschaernot so good with math? They are claiming ranges approaching 45 minutes to almost an hour with the launch batteries. So say the flight is only 30 minutes. What is 10 percent of even such a short flight? Yeah, 3 minutes. Specs say that is a short flight and so 10 percent of a full range flight is much longer.
So, I've worked on lots of black projects for the government and the military, and NASA, whom I'm currently trying to forge a contract with to produce and sell antigravity motors of my design, for 30% of the profits on each motor produced under license. They've also been given a sample to study the technology. I also have a complex understanding of the fundamental basics of avionics (aerodynamics, control surfaces, gyroscopes, thrust to lift and weight ratios) Electric motors and gear systems (alternators, dynamos, motors, magnetic gear systems, power distribution) Batteries (from ancient acid batteries to lithium batteries, magnetic batteries, and the storage of a nuclear reaction in a stable environment) Manufacturing processes Combustion engines (steam, fuel, pistons, or not, rockets) Computing And I've also developed a program to turn old cars into aircraft. So, soon I will begin patenting and marketing flying cars to the average person. We have computing abilities to limit people from reckless flying.
I own and love an EV car. I don't see a future in battery powered aircraft, they're just too heavy and don't have enough range. Maybe when we can transmit power via ground lasers and recharge while in the air, but generally lasers and aircraft don't mix. Maybe green hydrogen has a future in aviation instead of current fossil fuel.
@@keyserxx problem is hydrogen is currently produced from methane, until that changes its not a clean source of energy. Infrastructure needs to be built which requires demand
A solution in desperate search of a problem. Long haul flights will never ever be possible on electric power and for the short trip we’ve invented the helicopter long ago. Chapter closed.
A crucial safety fact that nobody seems to notice is that, because it uses ducted fans rather than large, exposed propellers, the Lilium Jet is the only EVTOL that won't risk cutting the stringers to its emergency parachute.
Imagine an asymmetrical power loss during the vertical climb phase. The craft will likely roll to one side as the paracute is automatically deployed. Even with extremely fast rotor braking, the time to stop the props will still count against the time needed to deploy the chute. With this low altitude phase taking place at least twice per true EVTOL flight, the safety of a shrouded powerplant should not be overlooked
That's idiocy, you are aware there's a minimum altitude for deployment right? That LILM would need a parachute is bad enough.
@@user-lh4yg6hj7i ⏲️
@@user-lh4yg6hj7i Intersting point. Which one of these non - spin certifyable EVTOLS are being built without CAPS?
@@LostAnFound What are you babbling about? Most aircraft aren't spin certified as it's consider aerobatics.
It will need an emergency parachute, as it has no control surfaces in the event of major power failure.
It’s always nice to see companies working to innovate. Kudos to them and others like them.
You mean fail?
Sure. Making the plane take power from Sunlight using solar panels would help breakeven.
@@solapowsj25 idiocy
How many years have they been around? How many full-scale prototypes do they have flying? How much can they carry? All they have essentially is an interior mockup. All they've really done is waste money, and that's gonna end sooner than later
They haven't wasted the money. They've taken it from the very rich and some poor investors, and made themselves richer. Just a bit of wealth transfer.
In five years there will be nothing left of Lillium. That's my guess.
Talking about safety: claimed 110 miles range (I love these round numbers) with no hint of an ice protection system! For that matter only a few miles in icing conditions would be enough to doom an aircraft. So, 110 miles range in non icing conditions or lilium stays on ground. Where's the icing protection system? By the way, no eVTOL thing seem to have any hint of such a fundamental system for safe aviation... Next time we talk about air conditioning...
Do the 110 mile include a working VCS and heating system?
It is cool, but a few points. 1) the electricity has to come from somewhere, 2) the plants and the oceans need CO2 to survive then they produce oxygen, 3) are the batteries lithium, since we know how well they are doing in cars? But it would be an excellent alternative for short range helicopters. Helicopter rotors are very noisy and the Lilium can to one thing helicopters can't; glide.
As a German & pilot I'd love to see this taking off (finally). But it is not going to deliver. Do your own research.
clarify.
Erkläre es uns.
Any RC pilot can tell you ducted fans use more current than is optimal. They look awesome and do work, but a design that uses traditional props will be more energy efficient in my opinion. Beta Technologies has already outperformed with manned flight in their non-vtol configuration.
It uses more current only on landing and take off. When on flight mode it s not only very efficient but also more stable as well as faster than regular eVTOL with rotors.
@@jonpetter8921 it’s only efficient in forward flight if somehow doesn’t need to use the 30 electric motors without drag penalties.
@@livingroomguitarist7 Yes that s what matters. Most part of the flight will be about the forward flight. Take off and landing only few seconds of the whole journey. Lilium design makes it very efficient on forward flight also faster and stable, more like jet actually, not helicopter like other eVTOL. It s also relatively quite and have the most load on board.
@@jonpetter8921 so far lillium has not hit their target range. Their range is less than the S4 with their test aircraft
@@livingroomguitarist7 Their first jets will be delivered 2026 with the range of about 175 km with full load, with upgraded battery after that. They will have first full scale flight test early 2025 and ground test late this year. So they are building two full scale prototype while we speak now.
I am from Pakistan but I love airplanes. Afte Honda jet elite II this is one of my favourite
Does it have a parachute for the those aircraft? In case of any unexpected issue?
Supposedly optional, perhaps. Will require it. No control surfaces. Major power failure and you are done. It could drop out of the sky out of control.
Projected power output from battery advancements?
Lilium❤
Soon 💔
@@MrRevancheRay Never ever :D
Can one operate in icing conditions ?
Doubt it.
Some people have been trying to push down stock price of LILM.
LILM is why LILM is low.
They want to short Lilium‘s stock or push the competitors‘ stocks.
Well, they've succeeded lol. They're gonna get delisted soon if they don't get it above $1.
My first time watching this channel, I'm thinking, I'm amazed at the aviation innovations, very futuristic. Then i say to myself, it's not futuristic, it's present day.
There have been some very reasonable questions asked about why there isn't a full sized prototype flying showing that it can achieve the load and range required for commercial work of this nature. The competitors are already doing this - Joby, Archer etc. There have also been some disturbing analysis shared by aeronautical engineers shedding light on the shortcomings for the engineering of this aircraft. They are building batteries which is completely unnecessary since CATL already have better battery technology suitable for flight.
elicopter and more economical . This aircraft can also be a game changer for islands like in the Maldives 🇲🇻. Instead of using a sea plane to get from the airport to a resort passengers can use this eVtol. Even in Africa where certain mines are very difficult to reach by road the Lillium jet can fly workers to a mine area quickly and then fly them back to the city quickly without taking a long aching road trip. Maybe if Amazon gets one for rural shopping orders, delivery people can fly the eVtol to the farm, land by the farm house and deliver the order. I think is a great alternative to helicopters 🚁 because Lillium jet has less running costs and it’s more efficient than a helicopter 🚁 because it can fly like an airplane . I think eVtols have a lot of potential and beneficial to the environment and customers. I wish Lillium nothing but great success for the future and since I live in Middle East I would definitely book a ticket on one of the jets when they come to Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
I don’t sell my 50000 Lilm shares.
Are they not going under?
Guess that didn't work out for you since they weren't bankrupt
Can this be used for drone hunting in conflict areas?
Why do they keep pushing the "noise profile" sure it is quieter in normal flight but hovering noise/wind will be immense and limit where they can be deployed.
Theranos Blood testing made Billions in investment - Nickola Hydrogen Truck made Billions in investment - Lithium Jet will make Billions in investment. Can you see the pattern?
Exactly.
Ducted fans but they call it a jet. 🙄
It's a German thing, I guess. Just look at Porsche, and their (fully electric) Taycan Turbo S 😅
Yep 😂
It will sound like a jet LOL with fans going 10,000+ rpm.
@darrell857
Nope. Quieter than an ICE power train. Check out Joby's eVTOL sound test.
At the “zero emission” BS i stopped the video … following this project since day one .. absolutely love it. Unfortunately i’m deeply allergic to BS.
You left out one word. He said "Zero OPERATING emissions". Which is fairly close to truth.
They are not denying emissions in manufacturing or in generating the electricity.
@@5353Jumper thank you Jupiter, i missed that. I need to correct myself it wasn’t BS it was clever BS. As sustainable as the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
@@5353Jumper Jumper you are right i missed the word “Operating”. So i need to correct myself .. “i’m allergic to both BS and clever BS”. This thing is as sustainable as the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
@krusty1974 all flying cars are a terrible idea, this is no exception.
VTOL is never energy efficient.
But yes, in operation, this thing has nearly zero carbon emissions.
@@5353Jumper ..unfortunately as CO2 is “the gas of life”, the more the better. So really nothing environmentally positive out of this plastic toy. I still think it’s very cool and a very well done project. If they could just cut out the “Sustainable” BS from its advertisement…
Informative, thx
So Joby has the same top speed and range? Joby for the win then
A biofuel based power generator may would be way lighter than the battery pack? So cheaper and more efficient in the air.
Nice! Does it have a form of Auto Gyro down tot he ground like a helicopter? Or does one dead stick onto a field?
Lilm is her to stay lilm TO MOON
For those who think this is just a concept with no actual flight demonstrator even flying yet, go watch this video:
_Lilium Jet Achieves Full Transition On Wings And Canard_
You'll see the prototype in flight.
Yes, fantastic. They showcased a takeoff, transition, and landing, something myriad companies have done in far less time. It's odd that they don't show any performance figures like cell heating, discharge rates, final SOC, and PAYLOAD. They are selling you and everyone else a lie. They reason they don't show you payload and useable range is because it's BAD. Lilium is going to crash and burn hard. This video is meant to give the impression that they have it figured out. I don't know a SINGLE engineer that doesn't laugh when Lilium is brought up. Unless they are sitting on pack-level energy densities that are astronomically higher than anyone else, they are done.
Nobody is investing in this unsustainable vehicle.
@kjflyte5088 OF course we are. You're a special kind of incompetent it seems.
This is only a mockup. They dont even have a full scale test model yet. No control surfaces. Major power failure and you are done. It would drop out of the sky out of control.
@@dubes what kind of engineer? instead of a bunch of empty arguments, support your allegations with scientific data...aeronautic to start with...
I am doing research on it's infrastructure facilitation by installing solar power plants and Tesla /BYD kind of battery banks for night charging etc and the charging station distance like cell towers maximum 100 miles from each others. so it will be a hybrid solution what nearest resources available near a charging station .
What’s your opinion on the recent events on LILIUM? Any advice will be very much appreciated
They have yet to fly a full scale prototype autonomously, remotely, or piloted.
Man I've been following the development of this plane for 3 or 4 years, you guys must be onto something because the level of haters in the comments section is worse than any political Channel currently on the internet.
I thought the company doing development was working out of Arizona, and was American owned has there been a change in ownership or am I misremembering?
Keep up the work look forward to seeing this in production.
It was always German actually haha, the company started in Munich, Germany. But they do in fact plan to have the US as an important market, especially Florida in the beginning and they already signed a lot of MoU there. So u guys in the US probably will see the Lilium Jet before Germany can xD
Better than Rocket is here
Easy lift off
Easy land on with antigravity Spaceship
No Fire
No Explosion
No Flame
Just Spin and
Lift off
Powered by Baterry
Work base on Gravity just spinning by using Battery
can fly in bad weather, plunge in the ocean even in outer space
Can lift more than 100 Ton
Earth which weight predict 600 trillion ton does not fall at the Sun because of centrifugal in orbitting, on the contrary it does not be thrown far go out the orbit line of hold by gravity at the Sun as orbit center. Gravity and centrifugal is equal called Equillibrium, thats why until now Earth which we was inhabited always rotate and circulate the Sun. Now we justly take example : how if the gravity used and centrifugal is negated? The Earth will float far leave the Sun. So that centrifugal can be used to fly far away if gravity eliminated. Finally how to eliminate gravity?
It’s way rotate part of aircraft by horizontal. When that rotation faster centrifugal force getting greater and the gravity getting smaller, finally it lose the gravity and the aircraft start flying. Of course people would surprise: how the aircraft can keep rotate without fulcrums? Thats why we named that aircraft Shuttling System that is aircraft likes two disc adjoining attached in the midle as fulcrums:
A. The Top part, we name Positive rotate to right, and the edges is getting thicker and havier.
B. The Buttom part, we name Negative rotating to left, and the edges is getting thicker and havier.
C. Middle Part , we name Neutral, air crew placed and also machine and everythings turning Negative and Positive at the same time.
The aircraft can liftup added with explosion from the engine. However that aircraft construction later, let the engineer doit it, and we are sure the aircraft will bulletproof and also waterproof.
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In modern civilization where human being generally using flying saucer as vehicle, will a lot of change in lives either in materialism and in psychological. In materialism area will apply the change in life like.
People no longger need roadway and rel road which spend large of energy, money, places, things and time, object place and time. People would utilize that area for habitat or for other need:
Rocket is complicated and dificulte
Low safety and high cost
We need somethings better
Developing technologies to enable human access to space at dramatically lower cost and increased reliability #FeelFree
Poor diddums. An aircraft with a low range, no anti/de-icing capability, poor hot and high performance that will expensively solve problems that don’t exist.
Describing people who have some criticisms as "haters" is very juvenile.
0:45 he sayd the F***OT's sustainable 😂😂😂😅
We intend to disrupt the disruptors. :-))
I'll bet anybody 100k$ that it wont enter service in 2026. They seem more interested in making deceptive luxury mockups than making anything actually work.
90m$ funding by 2017, 224m€ more in 2020. And have yet to fly with a person or person equivalent weight. That's impressive.
Agree. LD ratio is less than 10, no range. Wing is choke in cruise mode.
doubt it will ever enter service
@@user-lh4yg6hj7i that's also my impression but theoretically they could get their act together, they have the money.
@@DanFrederiksen I love how you're missing out on the opportunity a lifetime.
@@EarthCreature. you mean invest in them? computer says no :)
Charging the battery and the making of said batteries did a lot of damage before anyone even purchased, the environment isn't self sustained if your rip winning lithium for garbage electric vehicles.
Have not heard what these EVTOLS will cost. So what is the price of this Lilium?
7-10 M $
Marshall J Corbett of Grumman patented laser generated cold plasma going back to Mary Kenney's patented Ground based STOL fans are essential for urban arial mobiltiy.
Emission free? How do you figure that? Power just magically charges the battery from where?
How does it perform in extreme cold or hot temperature, and in heavy rain or snow?
Just like with normal aircraft, it probably stays grounded in extreme weather.
Otherwise refer to EVs operating in the extremes of Northern Norway or e.g. Death Valley. Not saying it's not a challenge but it's a predictable issue with predictable performance that can be tested for that in practice isn't stopping people from using EVs either.
It doesn't perform in any weather.
We should have much more options to fly.
110 miles is not much. It becomes useful really at around 300miles. But batteries with 800Wh/kg are emerging. I guess their are around 300Wh
amazing stuff
Lilium - flying the future
110 miles??? A trip from the city mansion to the country estate in one hour - perfect for any millionaire... Wait, he already has a Land Rover for that?!
They need to get thier stock price under control and fly this thing. At least build another one.
why is it called jet? e is not jet.
i think mostly because it can fly horizontally like a jet and the others can’t.
2:51 here u can see it
@@g_pazzini It is a jet. Even squids use a jet. You don't understand what a jet is apparently
@@EarthCreature.No. A jet is a gas turbine engine powered by the expansion of jet fuel burning with air. This is just a ducted fan. A propeller in a tube.
@@dancampbell992 jet stream
Will she glide?? Like a glider.? She is pretty
Ummm No.
Nice !
Attractive aircraft
Why not put a small efficient engine in there and make it a hybrid 100 miles of range is tiny
Cool jetman
This is only a mockup. They dont even have a full scale test model yet. No control surfaces. Major power failure and you are done. It would drop out of the sky out of control.
a chopper...how does it fall?
Go lilium 👍✌️
Clearly this will have no success without a three or four hundred mile range. 100 miles, you jump in the Lambo and have a great ride.
And for that to happen a new battery technology must be found.
True
as long you have a ...road....
So you’re only gettin 1 hour of flight ? Got it
There's still no strong use case for this type of craft.
True. It's too expensive and not efficient as ESTOL and electric aircraft.
It was so obvious for so long that this fiasco would not end well. I tried to warn people for years but no, they would not listen. Sad.
@@BlueEyed888 joby and archer will end up the same way.
Lilium = 😛 Me = 🤔
Until there's some convincing evidence otherwise, Lilium to me is just another religion. Faith, belief, shiny props, bright-eyed disciples, talk of techno-miracles, and the promise of a wonderful future is all very well, but we've still not seen one in operation. No, not a sleek scale model; I mean a crude, full-size prototype. A test-mule, if you will.
Show me the donkey!
It doesn't have to look good, just be complete enough to prove the idea works in the real world.
We need to see passengers getting carried away before we get... carried away.
Soon
Every time its a prototype fakin software prototype
So after 200 miles you have to land and sit around waiting for it to recharge?
I think its more of a inner city or neighbouring city thunj
polluting batteries & electricity from power stations dont equal emisions-free
100 dollars a mile. For the first thousand trips. Then who knows.
The time and speed doesn’t jive.
Germany has betrayed a good company and its emplyees
Germany has betrayed a good company and its employees
Lilium is the millionaire maker of our lifetime
@@Wi2Low You're missing a chromosome
So far, so good. we have seen CGI. We have seen mockups, models, and prototypes. It's a beautiful design. When will we see a full-sized prototype in the air? The man said by the end of the year, so we presume he means some time in 2024. Looking forward to that. Perhaps by the time they get it airborne, some improved batteries will be available.
Sister, we‘ve seen a full sized 5-seater prototype in the air since 2019. Your comment defo is one of the most clueless I‘ve ever read. Why is it so hard to first think or do research, and then write a comment?
True. They say 2025 for testing, but realistically, 2030 for service entry at best.
@@kingplays5369 It's not true the only thing we've seen fly is a remote controlled empty 1:1 model without a pilot
Its wings are too long, taking up lots of space. The most recent flying cars are a better option for road + air transport.
There is an extremely incredibly huge amount of space in the sky, don’t hate
A 100 mile range for an electric plane is awful, it sucks. Almost all electric air craft have a better range and all cars. So what's the holdup? New batteries promise to double or triple the range of electric air craft with a 500 watt/hour per pound range, they are already in production and others will copy them soon.
RIP Lilium . Scammed $1.5 Billion from private investors
Zero emission? So where does the power come from?
Solar ?
Coal
zero locally
@@goodfodder😂
Solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, tidal, invest in clean energy.😊
Now describing ducted fans as "jets". 🤦♂
Lilm has been using Palantir software for research, manufacturing, maintenance, supply chain and many things. It will be successful for sure soon, no doubt.
The biggest challange will be money.
Ready for takeoff 🛫
electric air taxis, have they not learned anything from the automotive industry. Many of these companies are going to end up on the trash heap of history.
@@mitchellcrane9809 but some win
Very true.
trying to re-invent the wheel. Just start making better airships, Airplanes are not the answer.
True
No, it's better, imagine a ambulance lilum jet pick up an injured person ASAP to the hospital much cheaper than a helicopter and faster
Vtol is unnecessary for normal operations. And electric aircraft should be built with a glide ratio that can stay airborne if something fails. Flying electic with no redundancy is dumb.
There's no such thing as emissions free.
곧 상폐??
상장시 10달러…
지금 0.1달러…100분1 됐네~ㅠㅠ
It is NOT a jet.
looks really great but unfortunately.. europe. eeks
hace 1000 años que están con eso, nunca lo vi volando con personas adentro !!!
Very true.
Just the hate on this evtol just means its success, hater hate 😂
Having 30 ducted fan proppelers means having 30 motors that can fail. Redudancy? No , no just lack of aerodynamics . These 30 propellers cause too much drag. Less is more, simplicity is the way to go. Learn from the birds, or from Embraer's EVE minimalist evetol which has attracted almost 3000 pre-orders. The Brazilian invented the plane (Albert Santos du Mont) and they are go to invent the Evetols
45 mins hell nah
🤣🙃😂Good luck!🤣🙃😂
100 miles range.150 m/hour speed.
That's less than 45 mins fight time. Charge time also 45 mins. Only useful for very short trips, but if the trip is too short, a car take about the same time, with less hustle.
Meaning is only useful people that frequently take 50-100 mile trips, or for those who are willing to fight 45 mins, charge 45, repeat all the way. That's if you don't take into account the pre-fight checks for safety. Not to mention bad weather.
Is the cost of this new toy worth it? The market for it appears to be very limited, because even if you had the money, it would still be more efficient to have a car for short trips, and a regualar plane for long trips.
Also, a bit suspicious they don't have sound on the demo video... A small drone with only 4 propellers is very loud, so I doubt this is much better than a helicopter.
Not trying to hate. The concept looks cool, but is just not very practical, and therefore not realistic... especially not with that range. They should try to make a regular fuel version... But they won't, because they love pushing the "we have to go all electric" message.
My thoughts, it‘s possible but not viable from an economic perspective. But the buzz allows a lot of people to make a lot of money.
I.e, just like most helicopter flights in urban environments.
For 15 minutes.😂
more like 5
smoke and mirror
🤩
Don't ya think you should fly it 1st with a representative payload?? Has never flown with ANY payload except for the batteries which last less than 15 minutes. SCAM ALERT
The test aircraft had ordinary Li-Ion batteries, for the real model they have developed batteries with 330 Wh/kg. How do you know they didn't simulate the payload?
@@aleksanderpegan4015 330wh/kg is very possible but perhaps you should look at the power consumption of a ducted fan. No way this pencils out unless the energy storage reaches 700-800 wh/kg. No time soon. Very inefficient.
@@brianschaer in vertical flight is this correct, but in horizontal flight is efficient and this is 90 % of it's flight.
@@aleksanderpegan4015 it would be 90% if you could get fully out of the hover within 5 seconds... Sure. Research the energy/min/lb thrust of a ducted fan. Half the battery shot for takeoff and landing. Where ya going?
@@brianschaernot so good with math? They are claiming ranges approaching 45 minutes to almost an hour with the launch batteries. So say the flight is only 30 minutes. What is 10 percent of even such a short flight? Yeah, 3 minutes. Specs say that is a short flight and so 10 percent of a full range flight is much longer.
Lots off bla bla for 10 years but limited progress. Get on with it already
So, I've worked on lots of black projects for the government and the military, and NASA, whom I'm currently trying to forge a contract with to produce and sell antigravity motors of my design, for 30% of the profits on each motor produced under license. They've also been given a sample to study the technology.
I also have a complex understanding of the fundamental basics of avionics (aerodynamics, control surfaces, gyroscopes, thrust to lift and weight ratios)
Electric motors and gear systems (alternators, dynamos, motors, magnetic gear systems, power distribution)
Batteries (from ancient acid batteries to lithium batteries, magnetic batteries, and the storage of a nuclear reaction in a stable environment)
Manufacturing processes
Combustion engines (steam, fuel, pistons, or not, rockets)
Computing
And I've also developed a program to turn old cars into aircraft.
So, soon I will begin patenting and marketing flying cars to the average person.
We have computing abilities to limit people from reckless flying.
mushrooms?
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Where's the BEEF!..er jet. Another woke title.Maybe it identifies as a jet.
I own and love an EV car.
I don't see a future in battery powered aircraft, they're just too heavy and don't have enough range. Maybe when we can transmit power via ground lasers and recharge while in the air, but generally lasers and aircraft don't mix.
Maybe green hydrogen has a future in aviation instead of current fossil fuel.
@@keyserxx problem is hydrogen is currently produced from methane, until that changes its not a clean source of energy. Infrastructure needs to be built which requires demand
A solution in desperate search of a problem. Long haul flights will never ever be possible on electric power and for the short trip we’ve invented the helicopter long ago. Chapter closed.
helicopters is too complicated, i think automating these is much easier compared to outdated helicopters
a garbage
Except for the coal fired power plants that generate the electricity 😂
Renewables can cover that.