Lost and Wandering in Zion NP | Spiritual Retreat Goes Wrong
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Holly Courtier was traveling the country in a converted van and was visiting Zion National Park. She took a shuttle to the Grotto picnic area. Armed with a backpack filled with essentials, she ventured into the heart of Zion. Holly found a secluded spot, strung up her hammock between two sturdy trees in a vegetated area near the Virgin River, and affixed it. But as she went to sit on it, it swung back, causing her to hit her head on a tree. Her sense of direction failed her, and despite her best efforts, she found herself lost in Zion's clutches. As dehydration and exhaustion took their toll, Holly's situation grew dire. And as the days went on, this ordeal would become a compelling one as questions arose about her disappearance.
0:00 Introduction
0:34 Zion National Park
2:21 The Disappearance of Holly Courtier
4:25 The Search for Holly
8:55 Lost & Found
11:23 The Investigation
20:47 Conclusion/Survival Tips
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I was made aware of this story by another popular RUclipsr you all may know as well, and it piqued my interest. I wanted to approach the story with an open mind and give her the benefit of the doubt as that RUclipsr did. After delving into the details and scrutinizing various articles and the official NPS investigation report (the link in the description for those interested), finding her account hard to believe.
In creating content for this channel, desperation is a recurring theme in survival stories. Many involve injured or lost individuals, yet the common thread is the unwavering human will to survive. These stories often unfold in remote backcountry locations where encountering another person is a rarity. Even in those low-probability instances where someone else might be around, people typically shout, venture out, forage for sustenance, all in a desperate bid to stay alive. It's a common theme in tales of survival. The depths of human desperation to endure and survive.
What I find troubling with this story is the lack of desperation. For those familiar with Zion, the main Zion Canyon stands out as one of the most populated areas in the entire National Park System. The main cannon is really narrow as well. The scenic drive, where a shuttle passes by every five minutes, and the region near where Holly was supposedly found is close to a highly popular trail leading to the Emerald Pools. The Grotto shuttle stop is for the Angel's Landing hike, possibly the most popular hike in the entire NPS. Examining the search and rescue efforts, including the use of a drone with thermal and night vision, which operated during the night, adds further skepticism. Considering all these factors, getting lost in the Zion main canyon seems implausible unless one intentionally avoids being found.
Even someone with basic outdoor knowledge, perhaps even a city dweller, would understand that following a river often leads to civilization or help. In Zion, following the Virgin River downstream would inevitably lead to the Visitor Center and Springdale. If Holly had walked upstream, she would have encountered the Narrows, a popular destination. Taking all these elements into account, I share the questions raised by Sgt Cashin and Fitzgerald. Whether she intentionally avoided being found or sought sympathy through a potential hoax remains uncertain, but I cannot confidently believe that she was stranded in Zion for 12 days without food, water, and just yards away from safety.
I've been to Zion and the area Holly was found. At the time I could hear cars and traffic, not to metion hearing hellicopters miles away. The fact that Holly walked out and received minimal rescue aide is suspictious. There should be a deeper investigation for the parks sake, As for the Go Fund Me donors, do your research before blindly giving to every sob story; it's a perfect venue for scam artists! Thank you for another informative story.
The unfortunate reason scammers can get away with their schemes so easily. Folks don't research anything and playing on people's emotions + good will makes for easy victims tossing money at anything. I don't give anything to "GoFundMe" campaigns.
Had a former coworker who was RIGHTFULLY terminated. They turned around and attempted a massive "GoFundMe" campaign pretending to be a victim who was blindsided by their employer. Of course to play on people's emotions they made sure to have a picture of their family and mention how they're a big family that needs money! Thankfully they didn't get much of anything from the attempt.
Nothing about this lady's story makes any sense. We've visited Zion in October and the park is still very busy. There is no way anyone could spend days lost sandwiched in between the main road and the heavily used trail across the river. The area where she was found is less than 600ft from the main road (with constant traffic) and less than 500ft from the busy trail. She was coherent enough to remember that the Virgin river water is not safe to drink, but not coherent enough to remember that the river is 500ft from the main road? Zion's main canyon isn't some vast wilderness like Grand Canyon. It's an incredible place to visit, but the bottom of the canyon feels very narrow. It's about 1/4 mile wide, and most of that space is taken up by the road, the river and heavily used trails. If this had happened in the backcountry it would be believable, but getting lost in the main canyon is like getting lost in a city park.
Completely agree. Been to Zion a couple times. What makes it so beautiful is how narrow the canyon with these giant cliff all around you. Much more narrow than Yosemite. I didn't mention it, but some of the SAR folks mentioned that with all the elements used to try to find her, it's hard to get lost, unless you don't want to.
@@outdoordisasters100% that place is so crowded, you would hear some one & those trails are in a general in an out n back direction, it’s not crazy canopy cover either
I liken the main zion canyon to a shopping mall. Absolutely no way
Sounds like the Amanda Eller case...also a scam
Says someone who has seemingly never been off a trail. Because if you had, you'd know in wilderness or semi-deep woods it's fairly easy to get turned around and twisted up and lost. It's happened to me in 99 acres once. In woods I grew up in and had spent 100s if not 1,000s of hours exploring, romping, hunting, sleeping and playing in. With roads on 2 sides and the rest with a creek wrapping around. Without bumping my head. It took me probably close to an hour to escape from what was basically the backyard where my dad grew up. It was close to dark and I absolutely panicked for probably 15 minutes. And you believe this or not but I don't panic. Get off trail you might find out. I don't know or care about this lady and her story. But I do know when people talk about nonsense.
I'm way too suspicious about 5 dogs and teams with drones, day and night looking for her. How could she be that close to the main road and not be found?
I agree.
Maybe the docs and Helikopters where used searching in the more distant Parts of the Park…
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Having been to Zion during COVID, I'm highly skeptical she was so close to the grotto the entire time. Heavily traveled and explored.
You are actually admitting that you went Zion during COVID when they were asking people to STAY HOME makes you a plague rat, not an expert.
Yes, during Covid Zion was packed with people. I don’t believe she was lost . The water is not drinkable and the weather is extremely hot.
For all its beauty and splendor, nothing on this channel ends well. ❤
I’m so glad it was a good outcome . Another title for these stories could be ‘ how many ways can you needlessly endanger your life & those that have to rescue you ‘ Very interesting and informative , thank you
I've been to Zion dozens of times, both canyoneering and hiking. This story is sketchy at best. She could not have gotten lost anywhere in the narrow corridor along the Virgin River. It is the most traveled area of the park, with shuttles driving by every 15 minutes or so, and hikers climbing on trails near Emerald Pools and Angel's Landing. The hotel is nearby as well. The history of mental issues also raises questions in my mind.
Most outdoor disaster stories are sketchy at best, do you think any person would risk their health? I think the proof is in her condition when found.
@@HellyeahRook While I get what you're saying, this story is just so hard to believe. I was actually in the park while SAR was looking for her, and the area where they found her would be nearly impossible to get lost in. You're inside a canyon that's maybe about a quarter of a mile wide, so you can usually easily see both "walls" of the canyon, and there's a road running down the middle. Plus, while it may not have been peak season, there were still large crowds of people. The Grotto area is a heavily-trafficked area. From what I can tell, it would actually take effort to avoid being found in the area.
And then there's the water ordeal. Let's forget about food because there are stories of people going for weeks -- sometimes months -- without food. However, humans generally cannot go for more than a few days without water. The family originally claimed that Holly was able to survive because she had the river right next to her. However, the story changed when they found out about the toxic red algae bloom that would've likely made Holly very sick, so they went with the idea that she only used the water to wet her mouth. The problem with this idea is that now we have to assume she went 12 days without any significant consumption of water. And though they did say she was in the early stages of kidney failure, most people would likely be dead within 5-6 days. So we would expect someone who has been outside in the elements for 12 days without water to be dead, and at the very least (and this is being generous) be in multi-system failure, close to death. And in the miracle situation that the person is still alive, you'd expect them to have such electrolyte imbalances that they would not be able to stand up, much less walk the distance Holly did with minimal assistance.
So she somehow overcame overwhelming odds and survived for 12 days without any water -- not to mention it did get hot during the days and cold at night, likely speeding up the process of dehydration. And on top of that, she was able to walk with minimal assistance. She got a concussion right away, impacting her judgement, and ability to call for help or draw any kind of attention to herself. Yet she had the cognitive ability to get herself to a water source and also remember not to actually drink the toxic water. And she was also able to keep track of the days by marking them down with a marker? It's just odd that her judgement was seemingly impacted severely in some ways but not others.
Let me point out that I don't think it was a scam. I think Holly just felt the urge to run away and get away from everything else, or maybe had some kind of mental health crisis. I don't think this was to make money. I think she was just running away and was trying to avoid being found. Maybe at night after the crowds had left, she was sneaking over to the water fountains that would've been close by. Maybe when she actually started to deteriorate, she had second thoughts and allowed herself to be found.
Your writing and narration is fantastic. I really enjoy it.
Glad you enjoy it!
You’re an incredibly talented narrator, next level.
I always enjoy your content. I cannot imagine getting lost in Zion National Park. I got lost when I was little (around 7-years old), when I went into the woods behind our little farm. I kept going deeper in and then I got really disoriented. My Daddy was a policeman, so he was able to get the Sheriff's department to help search for me. It turned out that I had been walking in circles. Daddy found me, and I thought I was going to get a spanking, but he just grabbed me up and started crying. When Momma saw me in Daddy's arms, she just started crying. With that said, I cannot imagine making myself look lost and doing it for money. Why would someone want to cause that kind of heartache to others? It's really quite crazy!
actually people lost in the wilderness ( or anywhere else ) tend to walk in circles....Not only children, but also adults... It happened to me few years ago: I decided to walk from my new place (which I didn't know well that time). My plan was to walk more or less in straight line on various footpaths and anywhere I would have end up that evening I would take a taxi ride to home.... There was no wilderness, only a rural countryside, with some villages and small forests and fields.... Hours later to my surprise I ended up in the starting point of my walk!!! So much for walking in a straight line 😅😃.. Needless to say, I haven't had a map prior to that walk.
I've been interested in this story from the beginning. I was actually in the park while SAR was looking for her. My wife and I saw flyers pinned on signs in the park to be on the lookout for Holly Courtier and the equipment and attire she had with her. The area where they found her would be nearly impossible to get lost in. As others have noted, you're inside a canyon that's maybe about a quarter of a mile wide, so you can usually easily see both "walls" of the canyon, and there's a road running down the middle. Plus, while it may not have been peak season, there were still large crowds of people, and the Grotto area is a heavily-trafficked area. From what I can tell, it would actually take effort to avoid being found in the area.
And then there's the water ordeal. Let's forget about food because there are stories of people going for weeks -- sometimes months -- without food. However, humans generally cannot go for more than a few days without water. The family originally claimed that Holly was able to survive because she had the river right next to her. However, the story changed when they found out about the toxic red algae bloom that would've likely made Holly very sick, so they went with the idea that she only used the water to wet her mouth. The problem with this idea is that now we have to assume she went 12 days without any significant consumption of water. And though they did say she was in the early stages of kidney failure, most people would likely be dead within 5-6 days. So we would expect someone who has been outside in the elements for 12 days without water to be dead, and at the very least (and this is being generous) be in multi-system failure, close to death. And in the miracle situation that the person is still alive, you'd expect them to have such electrolyte imbalances that they would not be able to stand up, much less walk the distance Holly did with minimal assistance.
So she somehow overcame overwhelming odds and survived for 12 days without any water -- not to mention it did get hot during the days and cold at night, likely speeding up the process of dehydration. And on top of that, she was able to walk with minimal assistance. She got a concussion right away, impacting her judgement, and ability to call for help or draw any kind of attention to herself. Yet she had the cognitive ability to get herself to a water source and also remember not to actually drink the toxic water. And she was also able to keep track of the days by marking them down with a marker? It's just odd that her judgement was seemingly impacted severely in some ways but not others.
Let me point out that I don't think it was a scam. I think Holly just felt the urge to run away and get away from everything else, or maybe had some kind of mental health crisis. I don't think this was to make money. I think she was just running away and was trying to avoid being found. Maybe at night after the crowds had left, she was sneaking over to the water fountains that would've been close by. Maybe when she actually started to deteriorate, she had second thoughts and allowed herself to be found.
Well said. I couldn't had said it better.
When I went into this story, I came in with an open mind, more leaning towards this being a true survival story. But then as I researched the story more and read of the official NPS report that wasn't redacted, and the areas SAR searched, which they marked on a map along with the flight direction of the drone that used thermal and night vision tech at night to search the canyon, the searchers and the drone were very close to where they found her. So I came away with the only possibility was that she was never there and ended up at the spot later on, or she hid in some cavern or something at night. Where she was found, for sure she would've heard voices from people since the spot is right below the trail to Emerald Pools. And she was probably a 100-200 yards away from Zion Canyon rd which shuttles are passing by probably every few minutes. Being in that exact area a few months ago, I have a recent visual of that area and how narrow the canyon gets and how much traffic is in that area.
What gives me some pause about it not being a scam is how deliberate she had to be to avoid not being found. If she really wanted to get lost, Zion Canyon is probably the "worst" place to get lost since it's such a popular location in the one of the most visited parks in America. There are much more remote places in the park. I believe she probably was in a more remote area, and then when she wanted to be found, she moved to a populated area. I know it's hearsay, but that text from the person close to the family sent to the news station seems plausible. Plus, SAR officials, including Fitzgerald and Cashin had serious doubts about her case.
Thanks for your comment! That was some great observations!
@@outdoordisasters : Holly may not have been at Zion, except for the first and final day. She could have slept in the Grotto parking lot, where an accomplice had parked a car, full of provisions. She could have been "off campus" starving herself in the safety of her own home, and going without water the final two days. Being 4/10 of a mile away from the Grotto parking lot, she would have been able to hear cars coming and going. The only reason she wasn't found is because she didn't want to be. Choosing a location so close to the Grotto parking lot, an accomplice could have brought water to her and then carried away the empty bottles. No one would be the wiser.
Wow this was fantastic!! This has become my favorite channel!
IOW, when you're having mental health issues, or have wanderlust, that is NOT a time to go try to get a hug from Mother Nature all by yourself, skipping safety protocols.
I remember a commercial they used to have about margarine, A woman tasted margarine and she was fooled into thinking it was real butter. When she found out she had been fooled...Suddenly lightning struck and she became kinda terrifying and she said 'It's not nice to fool Mother Nature!'
It's even worse to fool rescuers because you're having mental health issues or need attention. It might not end well either. I share your skepticism.
This video is a great reminder to not romanticize nature to the point of being complacent or foolish. Mother Nature doesn't give hugs. It's survival of the fittest. And sometimes there's no survival no matter how fit you are. Most pilot error airline crashes are due to a little bit of complacency creeping in. One rule not followed, one skipped step, one bit of overconfidence.
I live in Utah, and these rescuers know what they're doing. I can't believe her story either.
This isn't the way to get mental help.
Well said.
I tend to lean towards the scamming side. If she was actually suffered the head bonk one the day she was lost,no way it would still present as a lump twelve days later. Also, as others have mentioned, it was in a small area, near many pathways. There is no way she wouldn't have been found if she had actually stayed in the hammock. Seems like she had lost her job and was looking for an easy payday. If she did scam people, she will have to give an account of this when she stands before the Lord.
Usually when someone bumps their head on a tree, they sit dey a$$ down. Not pack up and keep hiking.
This story is all 👀.
If considering the two general theories (an accident victim who couldn't manage a self-rescue, or a scammer trying to somehow profit off her fabricated survival story), both seem to present glaring questions and inconsistencies. Perhaps someday there will be a formal or independent investigation that can put all the pieces together to provide a more definitive answer.
two general theories: (an accident victim who couldn't manage a self-rescue, or a scammer trying to somehow profit off her fabricated survival story, *along with the added "benefit" of being the center of attention via victimization (a disturbing trend that appears to be growing b/c of social media)).* -respectfully amended by me
Holly was so close to the Grotto parking lot (4/10 of a mile) that she could have heard cars coming and going. I think she didn't want to be found, until the time was right. I also suspect she had an accomplice who would bring her water, and then pack out the used containers. Her accomplice may have spent the night with her and left early in the morning. It's also possible there was a vehicle in the Grotto parking lot that Holly slept in at night and was used to store water and other necessities.
Going on 65 K!!! Look at you!! 🙌🏼 100K is right around the corner!! AWSOME job! I knew this channel would be super successful! Can’t wait to see you hit 1 mil! I’ll be here for it!
Thank you so much! You rock!
None of the search team that looked for over a week never found her until the end and she was so close. I wonder if you could hear the road from where she was found. Does seem suspicious. Have a great day!
Still had a BIG bump on her head 2 weeks later?
Yea boii have a nice day everyone!
Thanks ❤
haven't heard yea boi in years, what a throwback ,,, have a great day !!
You too my friend!
if she did fake this just to make money off people’s good will.. what an awful thing to do. especially wasting the time and efforts of searcher and rescue crews.
Women in Cali will do this for sure
Yeah, all those goofy, dreamy Yoga poses tells me all I need to know.. she has spinning eyes .. cra cra
LMFAO
The mother is out of a job but traveling the country in a camper van, using a credit card with no means of income? She lightly gets hit in the head by a branch, cant find her way out of the park but CAN tie her hammock correctly? No signal fire, no effort to rescue herself, she just lays in her hammock under tree cover waiting for rescuers to find her? What waste of resources.
Was this the story where she purposefully went missing to profit from a go fund me campaign?
Half the “fun” of being in the wilderness is “getting lost”! The people that don’t find a way back aren’t prepared to survive in the wilderness. It takes a special mindset and years of experience to “safely” venture off into the wilderness alone. I’ve been hiking, biking, XC skiing alone, in the wilderness for over forty years. Going it alone is risky but when in doubt I like to refer back to my scuba diving experience, dive with a buddy.
What an odd story…perplexing 🤔
I absolutely enjoy your content and I await excitedly for the next adventure…
Only Holly and her Creator know the truth but if it was proven that she scammed everyone,I I think she should be responsible for paying the $60,000.
Glad i found your channel. Keep up the good work.
I've seen others cover this and yours is the most detailed and best I've seen on the Holly case. Thank you!
You have an amazing way with words! Great video! I never heard this story.
As always, thank you for another awesome and beautifully put together video!! Have a great weekend! Much appreciation for all your hard work!! ❤🌼
Another great one O D thank you ❤️❤️
You are so welcome
This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌
Thank you my friend!
Bless you new vegas for teaching me about zion and Joshua graham
She is a thief and a scammer. She could have walked 5 minutes and found safety.
She obviously was living inside her van. The same one that was missing the sticker. Too many coincidences to give her story any credibility. Having just lost her job, she decided to grift.
Agreed
Doesn’t make sense. Why didn’t she make some effort to save herself?
She was a young fit woman and experienced hiker.
She should pay for the cost of the rescue operation, and refund the go fund me donations
The context of this story set a side, I just wanted to convey my appreciation for another thoughtful and well put together "piece"-
Additionally, I was employed at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, (summer of '95), and hiked the " narrows" so I am somewhat familiar with the area-
Once again Thank You!
well said in the end the final remark " the wilderness does not care about your dreams and aspiration" . one of the things i try to remember is wheather it's a short day hike or a long hike we must have the ten essentials. emergency blankets are light weight so I always carry them and make sure to have them in my packs.
Man, I love this channel. Always so very well written. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind words!
Excellent presentation! There certainly are a lot of questions...if taxpayer dollars are involved, imo FULL transparency should occur....
This man is an outstanding narrator.
duh its a bot...
I'm not saying she committed fraud but if that is the case then it's a damn shame that someone would plan this. So many people in S&R put their lives on the line to search for lost hikers. Many of those people are volunteers and do it out of the goodness in their hearts. I can't imagine someone being so self involved and wanting nothing more than to profit it makes me a little sick to think that is the case. I really hope that was not their plan.
good morning from California -keeping me occupied while working from home as well :)
So, basically, she got away with a publicity stunt.
It's not uncommon for women to get away with murder in this day and age. If they believe every "Me Too" accusation, why wouldn't they believe this, too?
Wow that ending monologue has really motivated me to go into the wild
For some reason everyone I know with the name of Holly is desperate for attention and will go through deceptive tactics to gain it usually from a man who doesn’t want them
BACKPACKING TIP: One of your packing essentials should be a water filter. 🤷🏽
New episode 🥹
This survival story is worse than Timmy Tool (Bart Simpson) getting stuck in a water well.
Such a shame if they really orchestrated her disappearance!
At least she was found alive, although the motive for her escapade might not be an isolated incident.
This woman's eyes are very off putting, not quite right
I've seen people diagnosed with psychopathy who have eyes similar to Holly's. If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then her soul is in a bad way.
I don't know what to think. Maybe it was a set-up and things went south. We see highly experienced that have prepared themselves thoroughly and they still get lost/hurt. But I will say you can still vocalize even with your mouth closed.
And don't forget the thermal and night vision tech they used in the canyon. To me, that was the most compelling evidence. The maps in the investigation showed it flew right over where she was found.
I have seen several accounts of this story. This one is the most complete and the most accurate, in my opinion.
Thank you! Yes, I wanted to lay all the facts out there more than some other did. I even looked at the official NPS investigation and the maps. I really delved into this one. I went into this case with an open mind. After my research, it's really hard to believe she was lost. Thanks for your comment and watching!
1,000 yards is less than a kilometer- being able to walk that far does not indicate a person is not fatigued or exhausted...
I have been to Zion. I have also heard about this incident. Who knows.
My idle speculation is that she had some sort of mental breakdown. After months of Covid restrictions and losing a job, it wouldn't surprise me if she basically just lost her sanity for awhile. It was a stressful time. Seems more likely to me than a deliberate attempt at fraud. Either way, a pretty strange situation.
What’s weird is they started a go fund me to help search for her yet tax’s payer were already paying for the search, they hadn’t called it off or dropped down on searching, they never said that, we only have the daughter saying they would, but not that they had. Yeah it sounds like a money making scheme to me. No way falling backwards on a hammock would mess your brain up or even give you a goose egg. I’ve went sled riding backwards down a hill above a junk yard, I hit my head so hard and had a huge limp but I was coherent and told my cousin to go get help bc I was bent over under a car, they had to lift the car up to get me out. I was also smashed over the head with a glass beer bottle that broke, again I had a small lump but was coherent, you would need great force to your head to give you a lump, knock you out and make you forgetful. She’s lying no way that happened.
sanpaku eyes, she’s lying for sure
This woman’s story has about as much legitimacy as Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s story about being in a high-speed car chase in Manhattan.
Kinda sus
Monday quarterbackers. People always think they know better.
Emergency whistle would have made this a 5 minute rescue not multiple days!
DON'T GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN TOP WITHOUT ME (c)2006
Interesting.
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My bs alert has gone to red
I think the wilderness is beautiful. But don’t be careless with your life. Especially places like Zion Utah. In the Grand Canyon and Arizona. And also Yosemite national park. I also think that half dome is very dangerous. I wouldn’t climb it if you paid me too. That’s a way to in your life. I think they should close it down and don’t let anybody up there. It’s far too dangerous. The saying is I’d rather be safe than sorry. Or I’d rather be a live chicken, then a dead duck ha ha. Thanks for the video I subscribed to your channel and I love your video. Have a great day.👍🏼👍🏼❤️😁😎
Seems like it hard way to make 12 grand, before expenses!
I don't think she wanted it to stop with "Go Fund Me". She was probably hoping for a book deal or movie deal. Then again, there are other possible financial motives.
Shady hippie was after a movie deal or at least some TV talk show cash
Yep, Yep, and Yep!
I want to see Joey ride that big wheeled switch bike.
This is some kind of reload, at least you can let us know why there was a reload
What
Def something 'off'. Bumped her head on a hammock and became so disoriented that she immediately became 'lost' (but then found lying in the same hammock'. Get out.
"Had lost her Nanny job due to the pandemic lockdown scheme'.
the mental illness, the social unrest all kinds of depression happens that way.
I just went to Zion about a week ago. It's a very nice park.
She's lacking attention, so deprived that she had to do something insane.
I think she made this up and staged it. But, I won't accuse her as I'm not 100% sure (I'm about 80% sure). They couldn't convict her because the beyond a reasonable doubt was not met for the evidence.
I think she should get mandated mental health treatment and employment counselling , but she should be given a second chance.
Fraud. Charge her for the 60k.
I don’t believe a Word of this Girls story I personally believe she did it for go fund money !!!!😮 !!!!!!!
I think she wanted more than just "Go Fund Me" money. She probably was hoping for a book deal or movie deal. Perhaps ride the wave of notoriety to greater heights?
Iam pretty sure I read that this women was mentally unstable? She chose to go into the park willingly and planned on staying there for a specific amount of time. Hearing about this go fund me account, makes me also wonder if this unemployed woman was looking for a way to make some quick money by pretending she got lost? People never cease to amaze me, on what they’ll say and do to make some free money.
Another flake looking for attention.
* The big question here, is why we're all these public records redacted? What are they hiding? And why are they hiding it? Did she use her money to hire some high-powered lawyer who forced the local authorities to redact all of their reports? What is going on here? Someone please help me understand this.
Can anyone involved in this case provide any information?
just curious, what would be the reason for her to lie? a lawsuit? cuz how could she sue? i dont get it unless she is plain nuts!? an attention hound??
"Spiritual" people should pay a stupid tax beyond what they naturally incur.
hikers permits should include a search and rescue insurance amount.................
Why does every video of yours start: "For all its beauty and splendor,.."?
Because that’s how he decided to start every video
He’s stating facts ! Lol
@@ydatoribio Synonyms exist.
Why does Nike say JUST DO IT?
Why does State Farm say:
"Like a good neighbor State Farm is there?"
Why do TV shows begin with a theme song?
I don't think you thought out the comment before posting.
@@godizself1 It's hilarious that you're mad about my question. It's so benign.
Mental patient. Yikes
Narrator, at 3:14 : "it was the last time anyone would ever see her (Holly) again." Then, she's found 12 days later. Who edits these videos??
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I don't think it was a blatant hoax
If this story was about a man, you would be instantly skeptical and suspicious, but since women are "sweet as spice and everything nice," she must be telling the truth.
It's a gofundme scam
This person and her family should be ashamed of themselves. Who would hire her now?
Nice chat gpt script😂 absolutely unbearably pretentious writing style, 100% chat gpt
It sounds more like she had a mental breakdown and got lost as a result. This doesn't sounds like much of a scam to me.
“Me me me! Attention give me attention! Everyone look at me”
-modern women on social media
Another example to never trust a woman
Especially with those crazy eyes, tats and looking for herself. But there’s plenty of men not to trust too!
Yes
Look at all the other stuff that's happened under rangers/search teams watches. I'm not making accuses for the hikers but these park people/and nor by police aren't trust worthy. And so what if she made a GoFundMe? Blacks literally do that just to get gas.
Although any hiking disaster is a tragedy, I have my suspicions on this one. The approximately of where she found, the Go Fund Me Page, the "head injury" that gives you lock jaw somehow. It seems fishy.
10:40 Also that is the same stare Egbert gave to bottles of Bud Ice
Lmfao you're the best wasabi!
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