Well said. Surprised at the hate Kai W got from the Fro, stopped watching Jared Polin awhile back he can be occasionally a bit insulting but is pretty thin skinned. There’s plenty of good YT channels that are joyful and positive so watch those now, one of those is Kai Won 🤓 I would say just don’t respond to negative comments or watch negative videos, people will eventually just stop because it will become pointless
Totally right dude, used to watch Jared Polin but don't now because of this. Kai was not the only guy he took down, i thought photography was subjective? There is enough hate out there.
Good points well put. You are a credit to RUclips photographers and that open mindedness must be appreciated with the difficult day job as a cop. It's very refreshing to see a vlogger who is not negative and not trying to influence you into buying or ditching something.
I love this. The message must be working because the comments are mostly if not all (I didn’t read them all just a quick scroll) are very positive and supportive.
I personally never enjoyed JP's style and haven't watched anything in his channel for about a decade. There was one RUclipsr who reviewed Pentax gear, but he could start an argument in an empty room, so I gave up on that channel too. I get that controversial and confrontational styles can "sell" a channel's content to the RUclips algorithm, but it really doesn't lead to anything helpful. Then there's the clickbait... Ugh... When you exclude all those channels, there's really not much left for us! Well, there's still your channel, Matthias Burling, Snappiness and other good people. Keep up the great, POSITIVE, work!
Very well said. Maaaan, now I need to come up with another rap lol. But seriously, I had a spat with The Cameraville. I was shocked at the negativity and couldn't understand why he went at me. It's very bizarre and unnecessary.
i totally agree with what you are saying -- added that people sometimes should follow this golden rule of "if you got nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all"... just seems to be a solid rule that I learned when i was young and should make a come back. - or at least follow the idea of "constructive criticism" that we want to give ideas to build someone up than tear them down. though I wonder where is this voice clip come from? Jared's podcast or is it old? Didnt really see it talked about any where else.
I agree with that ! The clip is from Jared’s FroKnowsPhoto podcast, episode 52 from May 26th of this year. (On Spotify) Around 20mins in is where is says this. Go and check it out I’d say! 😅
I love your take. I was not aware of Polin rant until today that I saw a video attacking his afro as part as a critique of Polin's negativity (really?).
That kind of attitude stems from pure jealousy and there's not much more to it. Digitalrev got me interested in photography long before I ever chose to take it up as a hobby...Why should it matter how capable of a photographer Kai is? None of the top gear trio were particularly skilled drivers but that didn't matter to any of us who watched.
This! Thank you so much for this video! I might not have too many followers on yt but some of my videos gained some interest and of course some trolls appeared, too. Although my head says "just ignore it" it often is discouraging to read negative comments. I'm a huge fan of constructive critique but the vast majority of photography haters have no intention in being constructive. But when I look at it objectively, I feel bad for the haters - how bad must your day be if bashing someone else feels like a good idea to you?
Buddy… I’ve been a full time professional photographer & high end pro lab guy for 42years… It’s ALWAYS been like this… Social media just makes people bigger pricks, because it’s somewhat anonymous… It’ll never change… About all you can do is pray, because until the rapture… it’s not gonna change… But nice video & beautiful sentiment…❤️ At 66 years old, & still busy AF, I always take time to mentor young photographers that I notice have talent… We should GIVE BACK to the up & comers… let’s face it… To make a decent living as a Pro Photographer these days, you have to specialize… If you try to be a studio portrait photographer or just a wedding photographer… You’re going to starve to death… Most full-time pros have to work out of their homes, because nobody wants to have to pay the overhead of a storefront before you can eat… It’s just the way it is… God bless you…❤️
Always loved digitalrev back in the day, i watched some of jareds stuff but it just didnt compare to what digitalrev was putting out at the time. good chemistry between everyone there and good humor to the videos. even after i stepped away from photography for awhile i was sad when i saw kai was leaving the channel.
i followed jared for a really long time. until he put his mother's death in a video and criticized his photos himself. i found that so absolutely tasteless to exploit his mother's death in such a way that i immediately unsubscribed. But his thing always seems to be on something bad to make. Such people you should simply not support especially if they are apparently so envious of other people.
I thought I'd also add, I think Jared Polin just had a brain fart moment when he ripped into Kai like that. I don't think Jared is a hater or a bad person, I think he's just the kind of person who wears his heart on his sleeve for everyone to see and says what he honestly thinks without any filters. That's not a bad characteristic. I think the Fro was just having a bad day. We all have them. Unfortunately when content creators have a bad day and put their views out in public they get slammed hard, which just perpetuates the toxic sewer that is youtube and social media. We should be kind and just accept that Jared was venting and it's ok to vent. I really hope he doesn't cop a heap of hate for it. Everyone has a blow out every now and then. To err is human, to forgive is divine. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth.
Good point, I hope your right! Fro has given more to the photography community than most of us, and as I said in de video, I don’t mean to take a jab at him. But where he goes, a lot will follow so my hope is he goes positive 😎
@@NielsdeKemp oh mate, I didn't think you were having a jab at him at all. I thought your critique was very well done and your conclusions and advice are accurate and worthwhile. Mate, keep up the great content.
Being a emotional bitch as a grown man is a bad characteristic. Kai did nothing to him so there was no need to talk shit about him and digitalrev because he's jealous of how successful their channel got
Ha Niels, sorry ben een tijdje niet zo bezig geweest met youtube😄 leuke video deze en vol dingen om eens over te denken. Als ik naar de laatste paar minuten kijk heb je wel een andere carrière gemist zeg .....🙃(maar nooit te laat iets nieuws te beginnen?)
I strongly dislike Jared at times. Happy to hear your podcast was positive also. I know a few fellows who go on their podcast and bring others down. So sad. Although, Jared does has a point. Kai seldomly does any real photography content. Which is also sad.
Mooi gezegd. Eigenlijk best een rare wereld 😅 ik wil volgend jaar eigenlijk ook youtube videos gaan maken over foto en videografie. (Ben foto/videograaf)Weet nog niet Engels of Nederlands. Het zal vast lastig worden haha. Maar jou kanaal ziet er goed uit 🙏🏼
The most successful photographer I know didn’t even know what the exposure triangle is. She does 50+ weddings a year on full auto. Would be easy to talk shit but she makes bank. Btw, Jared P stinks.
Firstly, I think it's disingenuous to charge a lot of money for something you have no understanding of. This wedding photographer you speak of will one day find herself with less than optimal shooting conditions, and have no idea how to overcome it. Secondly, If you took the time to look at Jared Polin's work, as well as the work and effort he puts into his real world reviews, you would not say that he stinks. While I don't condone criticizing other photographers, it is frustrating to put a ton of work in to something to succeed and then see others succeed who haven't done the work or have the talent.
Jared is absolutely right. Gerald Undone comes to mind, because he has never created anything beyond a test of a wall or chart. Kai is trash too. They deserve nothing lmao
They are not pretending to be great photographers or videographers. They are entertainers, the same way the media doesn’t actually tell the news but just entertain viewers
@@NielsdeKemp I didn't think you were seriously trying to claim you were a rapper, but there is no better way to respect an art form than to be willing to suck at it while learning to be better...double points when you are willing to share the process while you suck.
Well said. Surprised at the hate Kai W got from the Fro, stopped watching Jared Polin awhile back he can be occasionally a bit insulting but is pretty thin skinned. There’s plenty of good YT channels that are joyful and positive so watch those now, one of those is Kai Won 🤓 I would say just don’t respond to negative comments or watch negative videos, people will eventually just stop because it will become pointless
I agree. Thank you! 🙏
Totally right dude, used to watch Jared Polin but don't now because of this. Kai was not the only guy he took down, i thought photography was subjective?
There is enough hate out there.
Kai is a much better presenter than Polin. He's not such a narcissist either.
Unbelievable that this has so few views.
incredibly important message more people should take part in.❤
Good points well put. You are a credit to RUclips photographers and that open mindedness must be appreciated with the difficult day job as a cop. It's very refreshing to see a vlogger who is not negative and not trying to influence you into buying or ditching something.
Thank you! Appreciate that! 🙏
I love this. The message must be working because the comments are mostly if not all (I didn’t read them all just a quick scroll) are very positive and supportive.
I personally never enjoyed JP's style and haven't watched anything in his channel for about a decade.
There was one RUclipsr who reviewed Pentax gear, but he could start an argument in an empty room, so I gave up on that channel too. I get that controversial and confrontational styles can "sell" a channel's content to the RUclips algorithm, but it really doesn't lead to anything helpful.
Then there's the clickbait... Ugh... When you exclude all those channels, there's really not much left for us!
Well, there's still your channel, Matthias Burling, Snappiness and other good people. Keep up the great, POSITIVE, work!
I just love the wit of Kai W 😅
💪💪💪
Me too! Hilarious guy 😎
Develop positives from negatives😊
Woooow that’s deep! I might just borrow that one 😬😎🙏
You trailed the rap and yet I was still not expecting it, got to respect that
😃 Thanks Phil!
Very well said. Maaaan, now I need to come up with another rap lol. But seriously, I had a spat with The Cameraville. I was shocked at the negativity and couldn't understand why he went at me. It's very bizarre and unnecessary.
Haha thanks Kobie! So unnecessary indeed...
i totally agree with what you are saying -- added that people sometimes should follow this golden rule of "if you got nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all"... just seems to be a solid rule that I learned when i was young and should make a come back. - or at least follow the idea of "constructive criticism" that we want to give ideas to build someone up than tear them down.
though I wonder where is this voice clip come from? Jared's podcast or is it old? Didnt really see it talked about any where else.
I agree with that !
The clip is from Jared’s FroKnowsPhoto podcast, episode 52 from May 26th of this year. (On Spotify) Around 20mins in is where is says this. Go and check it out I’d say! 😅
Brilliant video and great sentiment - it must have taken you DAYS to produce this???…..but well worth the effort - THANKS!! :- )
Thanks Peter! It took quite some effort indeed! 😃🙏
I love your take. I was not aware of Polin rant until today that I saw a video attacking his afro as part as a critique of Polin's negativity (really?).
That kind of attitude stems from pure jealousy and there's not much more to it. Digitalrev got me interested in photography long before I ever chose to take it up as a hobby...Why should it matter how capable of a photographer Kai is? None of the top gear trio were particularly skilled drivers but that didn't matter to any of us who watched.
This! Thank you so much for this video! I might not have too many followers on yt but some of my videos gained some interest and of course some trolls appeared, too. Although my head says "just ignore it" it often is discouraging to read negative comments. I'm a huge fan of constructive critique but the vast majority of photography haters have no intention in being constructive. But when I look at it objectively, I feel bad for the haters - how bad must your day be if bashing someone else feels like a good idea to you?
Exactly! Stay positive friend!
Buddy…
I’ve been a full time professional photographer & high end pro lab guy for 42years…
It’s ALWAYS been like this… Social media just makes people bigger pricks, because it’s somewhat anonymous…
It’ll never change… About all you can do is pray, because until the rapture… it’s not gonna change…
But nice video & beautiful sentiment…❤️
At 66 years old, & still busy AF, I always take time to mentor young photographers that I notice have talent… We should GIVE BACK to the up & comers… let’s face it… To make a decent living as a Pro Photographer these days, you have to specialize… If you try to be a studio portrait photographer or just a wedding photographer… You’re going to starve to death… Most full-time pros have to work out of their homes, because nobody wants to have to pay the overhead of a storefront before you can eat… It’s just the way it is…
God bless you…❤️
I loved every second of it, but truth be told, your rap skills blew me away :-)
Hahaha thanks mate 😅
Always loved digitalrev back in the day, i watched some of jareds stuff but it just didnt compare to what digitalrev was putting out at the time. good chemistry between everyone there and good humor to the videos. even after i stepped away from photography for awhile i was sad when i saw kai was leaving the channel.
i followed jared for a really long time. until he put his mother's death in a video and criticized his photos himself. i found that so absolutely tasteless to exploit his mother's death in such a way that i immediately unsubscribed. But his thing always seems to be on something bad to make. Such people you should simply not support especially if they are apparently so envious of other people.
Well I kinda like the guy and I do appreciate what he does for photography… But stuff like that is just fucked up 😑
You have a great channel though!
I thought I'd also add, I think Jared Polin just had a brain fart moment when he ripped into Kai like that. I don't think Jared is a hater or a bad person, I think he's just the kind of person who wears his heart on his sleeve for everyone to see and says what he honestly thinks without any filters. That's not a bad characteristic. I think the Fro was just having a bad day. We all have them. Unfortunately when content creators have a bad day and put their views out in public they get slammed hard, which just perpetuates the toxic sewer that is youtube and social media. We should be kind and just accept that Jared was venting and it's ok to vent. I really hope he doesn't cop a heap of hate for it. Everyone has a blow out every now and then. To err is human, to forgive is divine. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth.
Good point, I hope your right! Fro has given more to the photography community than most of us, and as I said in de video, I don’t mean to take a jab at him. But where he goes, a lot will follow so my hope is he goes positive 😎
@@NielsdeKemp oh mate, I didn't think you were having a jab at him at all. I thought your critique was very well done and your conclusions and advice are accurate and worthwhile. Mate, keep up the great content.
I think Fro got it mixed up. Kai is more a presenter than a photographer and I don’t recollect Kai ever trying to make out he’s a great photographer.
Being a emotional bitch as a grown man is a bad characteristic. Kai did nothing to him so there was no need to talk shit about him and digitalrev because he's jealous of how successful their channel got
Goede video, the fro is enkel op zoek naar aandacht.
Thanks Bernd! Zonde, ik vond hem vroeger altijd top
👏🏻 well impressed with that rap song.
Goed gezegd Niels 👍🏼
Keep it positive 😄
Bedankt Maurice! 🙏
Ha Niels, sorry ben een tijdje niet zo bezig geweest met youtube😄 leuke video deze en vol dingen om eens over te denken. Als ik naar de laatste paar minuten kijk heb je wel een andere carrière gemist zeg .....🙃(maar nooit te laat iets nieuws te beginnen?)
Ha Joost, bedankt! Ik gok zomaar dat dit iets eenmaligs was ;)
Well said hottie!🤣🤣😍😍... oh, and man you’re good at the rapping.👍🏻
Haha thanks!
The camera rapper 😊
Right on! Subscribed
Really good points!
Love the rap! You rock man !!! 🙌
Haha thanks!
Come on Jared, fight back !
Wow Fro went full bitch mode, very masculine!
Geweldig! ❤️✌️😎
Bedankt! 😀
So true! 😁
😃🙏
I strongly dislike Jared at times. Happy to hear your podcast was positive also. I know a few fellows who go on their podcast and bring others down. So sad. Although, Jared does has a point. Kai seldomly does any real photography content. Which is also sad.
Amazing video men😅😅
Thanks Albert 🙏
Jared Polin huffs his own farts
Mooi gezegd. Eigenlijk best een rare wereld 😅 ik wil volgend jaar eigenlijk ook youtube videos gaan maken over foto en videografie. (Ben foto/videograaf)Weet nog niet Engels of Nederlands. Het zal vast lastig worden haha. Maar jou kanaal ziet er goed uit 🙏🏼
Ahh Jared, should look at his own work before talking trash. I saw a portfolio review he did once, he’s like the worst guy ever to give advice.
this is not the spirit that the video is aiming at
@@williamweatherall8333 ok dad
Based video.
Based?
The most successful photographer I know didn’t even know what the exposure triangle is. She does 50+ weddings a year on full auto. Would be easy to talk shit but she makes bank. Btw, Jared P stinks.
Firstly, I think it's disingenuous to charge a lot of money for something you have no understanding of. This wedding photographer you speak of will one day find herself with less than optimal shooting conditions, and have no idea how to overcome it. Secondly, If you took the time to look at Jared Polin's work, as well as the work and effort he puts into his real world reviews, you would not say that he stinks. While I don't condone criticizing other photographers, it is frustrating to put a ton of work in to something to succeed and then see others succeed who haven't done the work or have the talent.
Jared Polin is a clown ! I have blocked him !
Jared is absolutely right. Gerald Undone comes to mind, because he has never created anything beyond a test of a wall or chart. Kai is trash too. They deserve nothing lmao
They are not pretending to be great photographers or videographers. They are entertainers, the same way the media doesn’t actually tell the news but just entertain viewers
Super sharp over saturated exposures doesn't equal good photography my guy. Jared talks big but his photos don't reflect his mouth.
Link your portfolios, nay-sayers..
Well said Niels, but stick to the photography, rap too is an art form that needs to be respected!!!……🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢
I agree 😉
@@NielsdeKemp I didn't think you were seriously trying to claim you were a rapper, but there is no better way to respect an art form than to be willing to suck at it while learning to be better...double points when you are willing to share the process while you suck.