Cronus ZEN is officially bannable. Destiny 2 PvP TWAB.
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2023
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Guess you the first one getting banned
😂😂😂
New drinking game: Take a shot every time he says 'transparent'. Be sure someone is with you and they have 911 on speed dial.
It’s a bit sad you prefer someone lie…
I just found this video. Can Bungie detect this on PlayStation 5?
No
Hi, How does Bungie detect a device that is simply a peripheral and doesn't inject code into the game? And second question, has the Zen Studio app removed the Destiny 2 macros from its list? Because I can't seem to find it anymore...
They don’t seem to be able to detect anything from what I’ve read in the forums. There is an update coming to the D2 game pack soon so they may have taken it down for now.
Doom eternal is a good back up game pack
@@CronusChronicles Ok, thanks for the quick reply 👍
Keyboard Binding is wrong too and the AFK Key binding as well sword Binding too
Meanwhile we got mass shootings going on And you Care about a petty mod For a video game That realistically means nothing
Directly or indirectly to lead to victory??? Does that include headphones????
I don’t know. I’ve found headphone in COD with directional audio to be a huge advantage. I don’t know what the extent for indirect advantages are at this moment
smoking that fitness and gaming pack
How to they ban when game is free
so many of those top streamers will be "taking a break" / getting "burned out" from pvp soon xd
they still cant detect it i think this is mainly for content creators who openly use it... The content creators who don't admit it will still use it and get away with it.
Nice copy paste bro
from the dev's ive discussed this with.....they can detect it. Not sure it will matter, but at least they finally took a stance on it.
@@CronusChronicles true bro i feel like any stance is better then no stance. On the other hand will they just be giving out bans to people or will they try to to make cronus useless in there game because theres an age old debate why stop the cheats when you can ban them and make them rebuy all dlc again etc... like is this for more money or do they really want to stop cheaters lol
Several weeks later Bungie did Absolutely Nothing against cronus users
W bungie
You should do a KD before and after video.
Already did actually. Cronus “the good, the bad, and the ugly” video. My k/d actor went up after I stopped using it. I equate it to having to play harder versus having fake confidence to take every silly gun fight lol
Lots of reasons actually. Main one being my game sense has become more lazy.
and you seem comfortable with your own confirmation bias's. You dont follow this channel (apparently) so you dont know this. I havent used a zen in trials or comp pvp for months now. I show how it works in private lobby's and thats it. I stopped using it....and no one could even tell the difference. Kind of silly, right? Now, did we know it was cheating? No, absolutely not. But after this recent twab, yes, we know its considered cheating now. And I will refer to it as such. You spoke from subjectiveness, and you happen to be correct this time. But you didnt really know. I took the opposite side and gave my reasons backed with facts (facts at the time, this has been changed obviously). I will move forward accordingly.
@@CronusChronicles prob went up after all the others couldn’t use it
@@cat11112222 correct. But not by much. Also, I tend to do a lot of silly things in this game. I don’t track K/D as seriously as the top dudes. But I do take comp matches serious so if you want a look at those stats (I’m ascended 3), I believe those to be an accurate picture of my current “skill”
Can the cronus zen be detected on pc ?
I believe so. But I’m not 100% sure
"programmable controllers" what this means? i cant play with an elite or Razer xbox controller ?
It all depends on how you have it set up. But from my understanding, as long as you don’t use “advanced macros” in the comp environment, then you are ok
@@CronusChronicles oh thx,i dont even use paddles behind.i just like the feeling of this controller and thats it.
Lol you are good to go then
Hey dude. Im sorry I haven't been able to reply to your reply of a previous comment I made. Im looking forward to putting some thought and getting into it more.
My current question is just how excited are you now to be able to be a gaming coach without these in the picture? Are you less or more excited, what are your first take positive and negative reactions?
I would honestly think its got to be a huge weight lifted off your shoulders to not have to worry about talking about these anymore and to just be able to coach mechanics and game skill.
coaching, literally anything else, is and has always been my preference. lol
@@CronusChronicles Im super happy for you man! So is the plan to focus on gaming and coaching knowing that you're not at a competitive disadvantage by leaving cronus /xim behind? (and not putting your players at a disadvantage?)
Im genuinely curious how easy you feel like a transition out of relying on these is going to be for you and yours?
What about this video makes you think these devices are going to be "left behind'??? Its identified to the system as a generic xinput device, all its software is on the device so, battle.eye, EASY, or any other anti hack software has nothing to detect. Literally you have to be a streamer, showing your in game id and admitting your using the device to get banned. Don't be ignorant.
I actually tested that out btw. I got an account restriction. I think some of the bungie security team are actually subs to my channel. lol
@@CronusChronicles Yeah, and bungie will no doubt send out a message saying we have banned 'SEVERAL' players since we made the change.....a win for them. As per conversation on this video, there are possibly 100's of thousands of players using this device.
I bought one to see what the hype was about. It may be enough for an average player to rank a bit higher. But would a pro player use one to get an edge? HELL NO. The device is hit and miss. Aim assist locks on to the wrong target, the settings for auto fire etc are build specific, you change a weapon,your auto fire isn't in sync anymore so you get stutter or have to change a profile (with only 10 profile slots you'd need one device per game really), drop shot strafe shot is ALWAYS on, sometimes the device even resets half way through a match.
It's not the same as hacking, and whether people know what they are talking about or not, its hacking which is the problem with gaming, not macro enabled devices, which i might add, ALL RAZER PRODUCTS ARE.
These devices have been giving an unfair advantage to people that don't need them.
They are accessibility devises and the only way you people are disabled is mentally.
Been praying on your downfall in the gaming scene since 2019. And I can say with pride and conviction that we won
I appreciate prayers, as they are a form of hopefulness which can dictate and direct behaviors. With that being said, I’m not directly hurt by this ban. If you are praying for someone to be hurt, I would call question to the root of your faith
Very interested in seeing what new direction you'll be taking with Destiny 2
what would you like to see? I have idea's, but am open to feedback and suggestions
Get a Xim just don’t macro
@@CronusChronicleshas destiny banned anyone yet? Ive been looking into it quite a bit and havent seen anything about anyone actually getting banned?
@lostmytoaster2352 no one has been banned that I am aware of
Strike pack ban?
Not that I’ve seen. Should be fine. If you get a plum code error, then I think that’s a warning. If not, you are good to go
For real you put a high light on this issue, now it's out officially, wanna see the trials environment now.
I’m still getting gunned by Zens.
@@bizmircskill issue
I've seen videos talking about you but not using your name
Saying my name would give me and my channel more traffic, so they tend to avoid that. The RUclipsrs that prefer to lie about these things for views would also prefer to me to make more content though....so they can piggy back off that content for views. Its a funny situation to be a part of lol
good. Zen shouldnt be allowed in any game ever. But the part about macros for worlds first is interesting. Well/shatter skating macros are very common in pve and even in the worlds first RoN race, people were skating through large chunks of the jumping puzzle. It is a "simple" macro, but does give a very clear advantage for people who have them
Same concept, different application. We aren’t sure how far Bungie will push the phrase “advanced macro” just yet
Nothing but.karens
Meanwhile we got mass shootings going on and you care about A modded controller
@@Exposingfrauds143 I assume you use a zen or something similar, can you explain to me why you use it?
ROFL How many people have razer products, 100% you can have macros on them. 99% of gaming specific peripherals can record macros. "BAN THEM, BAN HAMMER, EXECUTE THEM ALL", well where do you start and where do you end? Cos razer could definitely give you drop shot, strafe shot, any of the skating etc etc etc.
I think this will not solve the problem with the cheaters. There are other solutions able to be undetected from Bungie. The next months will prove that. The other aspect that additional disturb me is the aspect by using 3rd part devices. Is Scuf for example in question? That would be ridiculous.
Have you heard of anyone getting banned yet for using Cronus in D2 ? I started playing again after several months and it looks to me like there is a lot of ppl still using it or something very similar. I do have a Cronus but haven’t used it since the notice from Bungie. Has anyone tested the Cronus to see if is really detectable ?
No one has been banned. Seems like the notice was just fluff.
it was just bs
@@CronusChronicles
Its identified as a generic Xinput device, no way of distinguishing between a $3 chinese controller or cronus/xim
Hey have they actually banned zen users? I have been looking for a fps game that isnt filled with cheaters. Apex and cod is all zen users. Its really depressing.
I did recently start playing a lil fortnite cus they said they will ban zen users. Only problem is fortnite is boring af.
As far as I can tell, no they haven’t banned anyone
Wow, how much your narrative has changed in one week. So are real question is, are you going to continue to use the zen device and cheat?
of course not. Its officially banned. My narrative has been the same for 2 years now dude. You havent been around except for a few videos.
@@CronusChronicles hey buddy, I've been following your channel for years. I started watch to learn what advantages a zen users had over myself and a general player. Don't get me wrong, I respect your position, being open and honest about the device and the game
I appreciate it dude. Zen will probably still be an issue tbh. but i wont post videos in support of it any longer.
Do you know of any destiny ban? When are you going to update the collectiveminds package? It seems that there is only one "COD" game and the rest have abandoned us!!
No one has been banned that I am aware of. I’m not sure when they are going to update the game pack for light fall. I believe COD became a priority and once that settles, they will update the others
@@CronusChronicles ok, COD already solved it with the patch from 3 days ago
Have you got banned?
No
Hey there! Tried to touch base with you 6 months ago about the Cronus and to interview you on my show Cosmodrome Radio about the usage of it in the Destiny 2 community and would still love to make that happen even with the ban coming down. Whats the best way to reach out contact wise?
I thought i replied back to you. The email is on my channel page.
Kinda master trainer to advise using PEDs at an npc show. Cant beat them join no matter the risk lol
False. They’re dangerous and illegal.
No wonder Ive been thinking how on earth did he just do that. Should be banned. Is bungie banning people for using Cronus zen?
so i use the xbox elite s2 controller, would that be an issue because it has a feature for it aim smoothing and the hair triggers
it shouldnt be
Had it in my Amazon cart, then this happens 😂
Well just know xim and Cronus has ruined PvP for legit players. I don’t know how people can play with this stuff and not think it’s unfair
I don’t know how much of this was external devices, SBMM, or just more improper among player base. There are also a ton of cheesy things in PvP to take advantage of. It’s a little short sighted for everyone to think Cronus was the biggest and only problem here. I do get the feeling a lot of people are going to be disappointing when they are still losing to better PvP players, even without a Cronus
@@CronusChronicles Nah, play trials this week on PC, one in 3 games you will get a sniper with 95% HS accuracy obviously using a xim... how do you out skill that? For console, sure, they may have a valid use but for PC, literally no reason to use them as windows natively support controllers so people using xims on PC are not doing it for "accessibility" problems and should get immediately banned. I'm a legit mmk top 5% player in trials so I can say for sure that you cant out skill that. Even with the recoil advantage, at best you would get a trade so how is that fair.
I personally fee snipers are my hardest opponents and I almost never challenge them. Everyone seems to always pick me lol
This dude just said he's a "Master coach and Trainer"...
I am. Would you like to see a resume? =p
@@CronusChronicles No, what I would like to see is all the money you made through destroying the community of several video games, be donated to the several game developers. Your entire scam to be ceased, along with a public apology to the good honest true gamers. If you do consider yourself a coach, how is telling people to cheat ok? It's like telling your student that it's ok to cut corners.
@@aaronsake3876 only apologize if you make a mistake, which I didn’t. I knew what I was posting and that I could be wrong about it. I owned up to being wrong also. And do you think I’m making millions off YT or something?
@@CronusChronicles Dude, however you go about this, your influencing the gaming community to cheat. Yeah, you've done something wrong. This does not need an explanation.
I've been waiting to hear this dam bad hit first my router I did lobbies with now the zen I'm out alot of money lol
Controller is way too strong!
It's not for nothing that the best snipers in Destiny are all controller players.
if in COD they hardly did anything with ricochet here even less with battleye
Yes I would like to see Cronus be BANNED because I hate cheater's. As far as Bungie actually being able to stop it is another story. I will believe it when I see it . Bungie has so much money they don't care about cheater's or any other concerns the community has . Because if the people who have been playing this game for 9 yrs quit their are thousands of new players that don't know what we know about the game to take our place.
Considering that's an external mod for a controller how about an internal mod for a controller? I guess I'll just hook up a flute And play destiny with a flute Like that kid on RUclips
They actually mentioned controllers but nothing specific.
Love the transparency from you bro, keep up the content ❤❤
Buy a additional controller and you are good to go….simple as that
Wym??
Did you say your a therapist of some kind
KinesioTherapist was my official title. Its just Corrective Exercise and Rehab. Worked in outpatient clinics for 7 years and then moved on to corporate wellness, then back to Strength and Conditioning Speciality work
@@CronusChronicles nice I've been watching your videos since I got the zen u taught me how to setup and fix its sad to see them all getting shutdown
@@Mattys91gt i hear you dude. That was always a possibiliity though. TOS and code of conduct rules can be changed to reflect new changes of direction or company culture (video game in this case lol). No biggy. I might start making videos now about how vpn's can be used for comp advantages....and how the YTers use them to circumvent SBMM parameters to get into bot lobbies so they can get good footage for their "weapon test" videos. =)
@@CronusChronicles yup I did it for years with my router for trials lobbies and getting Lunas howl and now it sits in my draw it was the nighthawk xr500
So here's my issue with this video. You seem to be the kind of person that flip flops opinions when you suddenly look like the bad guy.
You seem to completely agree with what Bungie has to say and don't seem to add in much of your own feedback. You're trying to play it off as "well everyone else did it so its cool" instead of standing behind your own opinions about it in the many many videos you've made defending and encouraging its usage.
You've even said before that you make guides specifically for disabled players and can't control what people do with it... yet you've admitted to using it, having friends that used it and even hanging with top pvp players that use it.
Which leads me to believe that you knew what this device was largely being used for and used disabled gamers and "coach logic" to shield yourself from criticism.
But suddenly you want to denounce it now that Bungie is banning it. I honestly would have had more respect for you if you stood by your opinions.
I stand by my opinion that until quite recently, this was not considered cheating. I dont care what people on the internet think, who have done little to no research or have had ZERO personal experience testing a product. I havent flipped on anything. Ive had the same stance for years now. It CAN be used for accessbility and ive worked with people that specifically use it for that. It CAN be used as a comp advantage and plenty of people have used it that way without ANY punishment....meaning it can and probably should be viewed as permissible until stated otherwise. And NOW that an official policy statement has come out from Bungie considering this device to be cheating if used in the competitive context, then i will and have admitted that my argument was incorrect. I appreciate the 5 minutes you watched of my videos before making your incredibly informed opinion though.
@@CronusChronicles Now I can respect your first part of your comment here and I do wish you had stated this in the video, that despite these changes you still stand by your opinion. But you didn't.
See you have this way of trying to sherk responsibility for making videos promoting, endorsing and teaching people how to use this product despite knowing exactly what most people use it for. But suddenly it's not cool because papa Bungie decided it wasn't. You didn't come to any sudden realization that this device was bad, you only changed your opinion on competitive usage, despite all the arguments and general sentiments, because a videogame company said "no no".
This issue is you claim to be transparent but obviously tell half truths and deflect responsibility for your continued promotion of this product. Cronus has never been advertised as a gaming aid, thats always been a shield created by its userbase to try and keep it from getting banned.
@@Imagine_Trying this is silly. You are seriously trying to tell me what my own opinion is? You live in a silly world my dude. You are no longer worth wasting time on so Best of luck to you.
Look at their wording and history. They basically admitted they aren't going to care enough in Bungie language.
wouldn’t count on that
@@stephen0327 If you know Bungie, you know. They didn't give any clear plan, proof, or way of saying how they'll know or what they'll use to pick up on it. It's purely a discretion thing in the most seen scenarios (world's first, biggest streamers in trials). They'll only check those. For everyone else, seeing people get banned/restricted will be as common as the reporting system actually doing anything.
“Permissible” or “interruption” language is fun
good😊
You people advocating for the use of the Cronus don’t understand the implications for the future if these kind of things aren’t mitigated. Everyone will start using it because they will be fed up being at a disadvantage. They will continue to release stronger “legal aimbots” and eventually all the game will be is everyone just aimbotting each other. This thing is cheating. Even if you have a disability, tough love. It’s to problematic to give it a pass for the minority who use it for a disability compared to the majority who abuse it for an advantage.
Believe this or not, I do understand the implications. I dont believe there is any real way of stopping the progression of such devices though either. Its the same thing with sports and fitness unfortunately.
Lol bro lucky piggy backing off aztecross that's amazing
Is bungie banning yet?
No
Absolutely nobody on KBM uses a macro to turn 180, you doughnut. Most KBM players can perfect 180 turn consistently, it's literally one of the ways you test your sensitivity in game, i.e if you're overshooting reduce, undershooting increase.
Hold that L
Sup, been watching you since the almost your beggining iirc, your videos and approach has always been concrete and helpful, and you dont sound annoying like most other d2pvp youtubers (im looking at you, azteckfuck), thus I hope you wont get banned.
that being said, ima keep using my cronus until I get a warning, lets see how this goes.
All in all, bringing attention to the issue was needed as in high level having a cronus/xim/turbo controller is unfortunatelly a must, I wonder what the dorks at CollectiveMinds will pull out of their butts now to make it 100% undetectable, or what new softwares/hardwares are gonna pop up to cover the "cheating hole".
Interesting times!
Don't worry folks and internally modded controller is fine
Like the xim Matrix ?
Whoever disagrees about a modded controller for a video game you're all Karen's
Turn down the fkn gameplay volume when you're doing a commentary...
The copium in this video is astounding. Enjoy the ban
You didn’t watch the video. And that’s ok dude. Best of luck to you anyway
hahaah like hopium. You didnt watch shit. Or anything he has ever put out there. I use his video of beating zen to do my carries in trials. I dont have one but he has always stood the position that fight fire with fire. I imagine if you actually watched anything your remark would be note worthy however it just comes off as pretentious and idiotic
@@Rifredi as pretentious and idiotic as your current stance? Fighting fire is - fighting more evil with more evil. That doesn't justify anything, what are you a child?
Lol, lot of salty people in these comments, adorable
Imagine carrying a about a modded controller when there's mass shootings going on
@@Exposingfrauds143 i agree with you, everyone would be safer if we all had firearms and were properly trained.
@@Exposingfrauds143 Damn bruh, why care about anything at that point.
@@brawnbayer4654 Glad to see another supporter of 2A rights under a Destiny video of all places.
@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 yeah, there isn't many of us in the community.
So basically you are coach that uses borderline illegal/highly frowned upon legal steroids teaching others to use them? Now that it’s banned….
You got an unethical mindset my guy. Everyone uses steroids so I should too? Bruh, that’s such a mid mindset. Just get good enough that people accuse you of using Cronus or xim while being completely legit.
Because when all those advantages die, whose is left at the top? The people using aids to be better than they are or the people who were top% legit?
Are you in the field for coaching or personal training? Do you happen to train athletes who have multi-million dollar contracts, or perhaps you train people who have thousands of dollars of fitness sponsorships on the line? The main factor for these people keeping their contracts usually comes down to "what edge can I get?"
As a side note, Im not longer in this field anymore. And you may be right....my mindset was being heavily influenced by the pressures of the type of work. But with that being said.....I still think Cronus should be available for people to use. I have my reasons for thinking this way....and all of those opinions are based off my own personal experiences with it.
I respect your opinion dude. Thanks for commenting.
To be fair, I was raised to enjoy hard work, meaning I hate sitting and doing paperwork. I helped build houses in musician village after Katrina, I can weld, have even rebuilt engines, so long as I can work with my hands I’m happy. Sure I had to have surgery on my hands over the years and not all my fingers are 100%. My grip is in no way compromised but doing intricate things has to be done with my off hand 🤷♂️.
My father was a personal trainer, now he has his own businesses: warehousing for high end and vintage vehicles, dabbles in flipping high priced vintage vehicles after getting them as close back to original. Granted he gets a quarter mil a year from inheritance now… his father made it so he had to have a successful enough business that he owns, making so much minimum for a few years, for him to receive inheritance in a specific sum per year 🤷♂️ my brother started his business at 18 to get ahead of that possibility 😂 he owns P3, small business but makes him 50,000 a year min.
Despite being around people who typically cut corners to speed up work and having a somewhat bum hand, I never needed or wanted a handout to get better. I earn what I can with what I have. Who cares if you are top % in a video game, honestly…. For me it’s just a personal achievement, why everyone gotta get so butt hurt to need an advantage over others in a video game? It’s literally just entertainment, except for the actual pros. Why can’t they just put in the effort and reap the benefits? People in this day and age are truly mental.
TLDR, you sold yourself out and limited your own capacity to earn your way to the top and are encouraging others to do the same 💀
As Cronus aren’t detectable on Console. I think you’re good to go.
How?
@@None-93 so first of all the biggest thing is that Battleye isn’t even used off Console. Bungie doesn’t have a single thing in place for cheating on console. It’s simply plugged into your controller and it doesn’t appear as anything other than your controller input.
@@Vysedragon they can detect the inputs coming from the controller silly
@@ulianassange2763 simply not possible on console
@@Vysedragon how can an online game not detect inputs being sent to them ?
99% of players consider cheating
So you seem pretty stuck on this 99% number. Let me clarify something. Between 30-57% of players have used some form of enhancement peripherals or attachments. This was based on a global survey of gamers
7th February here, and still people using it
Yup
You can’t be a master of you use chronus or zen.
Lol. Master of personal training is a different but related area
I appreciate your candid transparency. Your Cronus video on The Immortal was the tipping point, and resulted in a massively positive change for the community. Thank you!
That video was actually the 3rd one that got out front and center. First one was 2-3 years ago. I’m actually genuinely curious why it took so long for them to make a statement/official stance. There were definitely more angry people from Immortal video though….like…..angry to the point of death threats. Lol people are crazy sometimes