Should I Major in Math or Computer Science?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • Should I Major in Math or Computer Science?
    In this video I talk about whether to major in Math or Computer Science. Ultimately I think it's best you study what you like but be realistic at the same time. There are many more opportunities with a computer science degree so if you are not sure you absolutely love math this might be a good route. Note I am biased and I obviously prefer math:)

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  • @JohnSmith-lr8xg
    @JohnSmith-lr8xg 3 года назад +403

    I like this camera angle it makes me feel like I'm listening to a guy who's buried up to his neck.

  • @jannikthorsen3531
    @jannikthorsen3531 4 года назад +244

    Despite your bias towards mathematics, you still recommend going into CS for the majority of applicants. I respect your honesty.

  • @nexovec
    @nexovec 4 года назад +221

    If you think you are smart, go CS. If others think it too, go math.

    • @kurtmandelbrot8485
      @kurtmandelbrot8485 4 года назад +49

      if you are aggressively smart... then physics is an option

    • @jonathan2847
      @jonathan2847 3 года назад +1

      @OtakuLeveledUp It's a weird one, I frequently cover maths my friends who do maths don't know the maths of, a lot of tensor stuff.

    • @glife54
      @glife54 3 года назад +2

      😂🙌

  • @combustionFreeEngine
    @combustionFreeEngine 4 года назад +151

    If you just want to be a good software engineer then computer science degree is likely right for you but let's say you want to go further in Computer Science example AI, Computer Architecture, neural network, or your goal is to be an AI researcher then Math is really the importance thing you need to know because all of those rely heavily on Math. It's good to do both but I would suggest go to Computer Science degree and at the same time keep practicing on math like Calculus, linear algebra, Probability, and Statistic and all of these topic will be covered in your first year in Computer Science and remember to keep practicing it because you will need in the furture.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +19

      Nice good info thank you!!

    • @tom-kz9pb
      @tom-kz9pb 6 месяцев назад

      AI depends heavily in particular on Bayesian statistics, that are based on data-driven analysis, without making prior assumptions (e.g, such as whether a coin is "fair" or biased).
      Be pragmatic. Have an idea where you want to seek specific employment, how good is the job market for that employment, and what do you most need to know for that kind of employment. Remember though that it isn't ENTIRELY about optimizing chances to find employment, the most easily. You will probably spend over 70% of your adult days at your job. It helps a lot if you reasonably enjoy what you are doing.

  • @SwagDawg
    @SwagDawg 3 года назад +38

    Computer science is not programming. It is not software engineering. Computer science is mathematics theory specialized for computers. It is calculus, statistics, graph theory, algorithms and data structures, and more, and those things do not change (for the most part). Computer science is the theory behind computers, meaning that it builds upon itself the same way that math does. There are classes you can take that specialize in a certain area of today's technological market, but the underlying requirements for graduation always stay the same.

  • @onlineenglish6653
    @onlineenglish6653 4 года назад +51

    I don’t reckon that cs is smarter degree.Thanks to the skills of math you are capable to learn the cs easily.Having the math degree denotes that you think critically and having a high range of problem solving.With that soft skills you are able to do more than you guess

  • @renatoteixeira3436
    @renatoteixeira3436 3 года назад +54

    I started off as a math major but changed my major to computer science.
    1 Better employability post graduation.
    2 CS degree (at my university) has a steep math requirement. Not the other way around.
    3 CS degree (at my university) is a great blend of theory and practical aspects.
    4 CS is unique because it is a blend of engineering, empirical science, mathematics and logic, art and creativity.
    5 CS degree is incredibly versatile.
    6 CS professors at my university were a lot more easy going and chill than the professors at the math department.
    7 I have been an autodidact. Math is very near and dear to my heart, hence I have over the years figured out ways to learn it on my own. (Bad childhood experience forced me this route)
    8 My thirst for learning math is very broad....I love theoretical math, applied math, computational math..the whole nine yards. It would be impossible for me to take all these classes.
    9 There is a lot to CS then merely programming. Essentially CS is applied math.
    10 Immediate feedback. Your logic cannot be better than that of the compiler. Hence you get instant feedback on your work.

  • @alfacentauri3686
    @alfacentauri3686 3 года назад +32

    I've been a programmer for 30 years. There are constantly new tools, application frameworks and languages popping up replacing the ones you have already learned. So keep the learning pace up or you'll get obsolete.

  • @geraldhuang7858
    @geraldhuang7858 3 года назад +24

    Undergrad math degrees: Quantitative trading, data science, data analyst, statistician, computing jobs within finance, weather simulation and meteorology, medical diagnosis, etc.
    Undergrad CS degrees: Software engineering, IT and/or IS analyst, data science, full-stack developer (or just front/back end), software quality assurance manager, etc.

    • @ivoriankoua3916
      @ivoriankoua3916 3 года назад +6

      You can do the dev job as a Math major but not the inverse.

    • @jilcha1036
      @jilcha1036 2 года назад +3

      People don't usually do quantitative trading with undergrad degree, at least where I live a master of phd is required

  • @OleJoe
    @OleJoe 5 лет назад +226

    Mathematics is eternal, computer science is constantly changing. I received my math degree in 1984. The math I learned is still just as valid today as it was then. Can the same be said of computer science? I doubt very seriously if someone could get a job in CS today, only knowing CS from the 1980s, but they could get a math job today with a math degree from the '80s.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  5 лет назад +73

      Omg yes totally agree!! Math is absolutely eternal!!

    • @ccuuttww
      @ccuuttww 5 лет назад +14

      ​@@TheMathSorcerer not really for the basic concept Yes it is
      but for application no it changes everyday

    • @slackerengi2401
      @slackerengi2401 5 лет назад +51

      I get what you're saying, but yeah
      people still use C and C++ 40 years later
      Besides, comp sci is built on math

    • @OleJoe
      @OleJoe 4 года назад +4

      @@slackerengi2401 I still sometimes use FORTRAN 77, even now.

    • @alexbenanti5125
      @alexbenanti5125 4 года назад +2

      @Gordon Talge well said my friend

  • @wisco9er536
    @wisco9er536 4 года назад +32

    I'm going to be majoring in Mathematics and Computer Science, basically a lot of math with some of it applied to computational science. I hope I can use that knowledge beneficially

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +7

      That's so good👍

    • @franciscoreyes7370
      @franciscoreyes7370 4 года назад +2

      A double major in math and computer science is a waste of time. Major in one subject and take your electives in the other. Double majors are for when you have interests in fields that are almost mutually exclusive, like music and computer science, math and history etc.

    • @elisamartinez202
      @elisamartinez202 3 года назад +14

      @@franciscoreyes7370 Actually, not necessarly. I’m double majoring and i’m focusing in data science, so I’m taking classes related to that in both majors. So I’ll be more rounded after I finish :) I think it’s not good to discourage students online man, imagine if the student has like 1 or 2 years in and you say no, that’s not good what you’re doing, you’re wasting your time and money. You’re cultivating doubt and will make the student fail!! So, don’t. I’m happy to be very certain of my very detail calculated path :)

    • @michaelpieters1844
      @michaelpieters1844 3 года назад

      I got a serious expertise when it comes to computational mathematics but I neither got a math or cs degree.

    • @trungdo3012
      @trungdo3012 3 года назад

      @@elisamartinez202 in your case, you can just do a stat applied in CS, you get to do around 6-7 stats class and 6-7 CS focus class. And save your time and money for the master degree. I don't think Francisco tried to demotivated students over, but instead he's pointing there is another option that we can considering.

  • @lupaphormy1933
    @lupaphormy1933 4 года назад +29

    Dude, your hair is awesome!

  • @thekingofthisworld2154
    @thekingofthisworld2154 3 года назад +13

    I did an undergraduate major in Japanese with a minor in mathematics. (1996-200) When I tell people in what I did my undergraduate, they are shocked. It was likely the most difficult yet useless degree anyone could imagine. I ended up going back and doing a masters of education to teach. (2010-2012). I’m finishing my MBA now as well. I’d recommend computer science also.

  • @matthewcnorris
    @matthewcnorris 5 лет назад +69

    First- lower the camera just a smidgen more. It feels like you're talking to us over a bookshelf. Second, cool library; looks like you have A LOT of Modern Library books.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  5 лет назад +16

      LOL yes it's ridiculous!!!! I know the camera needs to be lowered for sure! I almost didn't post this but figured why not:)
      Thanks man!!!!!!!

    • @therealone4113
      @therealone4113 4 года назад +2

      This is hilarious

  • @Warwipf
    @Warwipf 4 года назад +16

    Just go with whatever you feel passionate about. If you go CS, be prepared to deal with elitist mathematicians trying to berate your work tho.

  • @karthikeyapervela3230
    @karthikeyapervela3230 3 года назад +9

    I suggest to take math major and go for applied math all the way, you can learn fluids, solids, computational science depending upon your interest

  • @spacetimemalleable7718
    @spacetimemalleable7718 3 года назад +7

    In the days long past, I had a Real Analysis class that started with 30 students. The majority took the Calculus sequence, Linear Alg, ODE. Back then there wasn't any class on proofs. This was our first proof class. At the end of the semester only 5 students out of the 30 were left, and most of the rest decided to go into Comp. Sci. Basically the reasoning was: Why bust your tail on a super hard subject when you can get a high paying job on a somewhat "easier" major?

    • @theboombody
      @theboombody 5 месяцев назад

      Theoretical math doesn't pay in this day and age. You can't copyright a mathematical proof to make money off of it. That's probably the way it should be. But yeah, it just doesn't pay, so there's less incentive to do it other than curiosity. I do it for a hobby now pretty much.

  • @JohnDoe-sn9pz
    @JohnDoe-sn9pz 3 года назад +15

    2nd year CS student here. I definitely don't have all the answers (very limited perspective), but this is my experience:
    - I don't think it's as easy to "self study" CS as people make it sound. You can definitely learn how to program on your own, but CS is so much more than programming and a lot more theory-intensive. The projects our lecturers set up for us are also incredibly interesting (and much better than any online course I've ever seen). You could technically self-study all the content we've done, in the same way you could self study any degree if you tried hard enough. I wouldn't have been able to do it on my own (and the uni experience is pretty cool).
    - CS might be the most flexible degree at our uni. I'm pretty sure I can major in CS and Math / Applied Math / Physics / Economics / Operations Research / Mathematical Statistics.
    I had an easy choice and chose CS because I loved programming in high school. I was a bit shocked when I realised how much math I'd be doing. After putting in some time and cultivating my interest by watching channels like this I started enjoying math a lot more. I was also pleasantly surprised by 2nd year CS, that focuses a lot more on theory that I never had the courage to even try to understand.

    • @ryantocknell6432
      @ryantocknell6432 Год назад

      hey bro are you studying at Stellenbosch University by any chance? I am first year cs student and all these modules sound very familiar to what stellies offers!

  • @Juan35.29
    @Juan35.29 4 года назад +46

    Computer science can be learned with youtube videos and a cheap laptop. After that you get a $500 certificate and can land an $70k/year job overnight. I did this 10 years ago and now make $100k+ with zero student debt. I want to head to the big leagues in terms of tech work so I'm back in college as an adult for Pure Math. This stuff would be very heard to learn outside of school or on my own and there aren't really any jobs out there for scientists and mathematicians that accept cheap 1-week certs the way you find there is in Computer Science. Math all the way.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +11

      oh wow hardcore story man, that's awesome!

    • @JohnDoe-kh3hy
      @JohnDoe-kh3hy 4 года назад +6

      Can you tell me/us a little bit more details on your journey? I wish I can replicate it as my story is somewhat similar. Thanks

    • @retrofel4120
      @retrofel4120 4 года назад +5

      @Podcast - SørenCast Z It's called variable because the value can vary, it can be changed when it's rewritten I guess. That's the difference between variable and const.

    • @chesshooligan1282
      @chesshooligan1282 3 года назад +3

      Of course you can learn maths on your own. I got a degree in maths from one of the top-five universities in the US and I never went to lectures.

    • @allanhenriques2694
      @allanhenriques2694 3 года назад

      @@chesshooligan1282 university is a LOT more than just lectures

  • @DitiroBImbo
    @DitiroBImbo 3 года назад +6

    "Get a job you will enjoy". This is me as a teacher. It doesn't pay a lot, but the students do close that gap for me.

  • @nadiaterezon8281
    @nadiaterezon8281 3 года назад +7

    I was considering a double major in computer science and mathematics but considering the fact that my ADHD impedes my learning process in maths... (I really like math so i put a lot of effort) I think computer science is suits me more. :)

  • @imacds
    @imacds 4 года назад +8

    Just do both! They overlap like 3/4th of the requirements!

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +5

      yeah good advice!

    • @imacds
      @imacds 2 года назад

      @ In my university, the requirements for a math minor were only 4 extra math classes. Other schools my friends went to offered joint degrees in math and computer science. There are many options.

  • @Kristielina
    @Kristielina 2 месяца назад

    thanks for going in detail about becoming a math teacher :)

  • @renzovallejos6129
    @renzovallejos6129 2 года назад +3

    You can easily work in tech working as a software engineer or data analyst with a math degree. You just need to take a few courses in programming in order to have the skills.

  • @MSneberger
    @MSneberger 4 года назад +13

    Given that in the current day you have to learn how to code to get a math degree, I think people should thinking about double majoring in both. The cross-over of classes is so close between the degrees that you should not have to take a bunch of extra hours.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +1

      Ya that's good advice!!!

    • @MSneberger
      @MSneberger 4 года назад +4

      @@TheMathSorcerer For example, the CS undergrad pathway at my school includes Calc I, II, II plus discrete math, linear algebra, and probability and statistics. And the data structures and algorithm classes are the same as a math major who focuses on discrete math as it is mostly graph theory and proofs - only difference is a math major says "vertex" where a CS major says "node!" I have a tutor who has a masters in math and he knows all the algorithm asymptotic behavior I had to study (Big "O" etc). It was only until I got to algorithm analysis of problems that can NOT be solved that he had little knowledge.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +1

      @@MSneberger oh wow very close!! Just a few more classes it seems. Where I went to school at the time, it was about a 9 course difference but I think they have since changed that and now it's less courses to do a double major.

    • @MSneberger
      @MSneberger 4 года назад +2

      @@TheMathSorcerer They used to also require differential equations for a CS degree! But they dropped that a couple of years ago. I just looked, and both the "Math" and "Computational Mathematic Sciences" degrees require students to take the same first two programming classes that CS students have to take, and the computational version adds in some of the discrete math/algorithms stuff, so I am think you might be able to double major in 6 extra classes or so, but if you use your elective credits for those crossover classes it is really close.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +1

      @@MSneberger So nice! yeah I was a CS major for a while, then a double major, then decided to switch to just math! Tough choices:) If it was 6 courses for me I think I might have done both:)

  • @Lnblackberry48
    @Lnblackberry48 3 года назад +3

    I’m a high school education Math Major with a minor in CS . They’re the only thing I’m interested enough to do well in ! Everything else is just hard for me .

  • @georgecantu856
    @georgecantu856 4 года назад +10

    Where the hell was this channel my freshman year

  • @SunkenCrab
    @SunkenCrab 5 лет назад +9

    The correct answer is engineering. EE has been a challenge and a blast. Love the vids and the library man

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  5 лет назад +1

      I have heard engineering is the HARDEST undergraduate major because it's math and also physics. Awesome man😄

  • @JohnSmith-mk5xm
    @JohnSmith-mk5xm 3 года назад +9

    I need advice on a major! I have to declare in 2 weeks and I'm torn between math and CS. According to US news my University is ranked #13 in the country for CS and #16 for math.
    My career goal: I want to go get a Ph.D., work in research, and stay in Academia. My research interests are in the theoretical side of Computer Science, or anything dealing with major honestly!
    I feel like I'm more passionate about Math. I'm pretty bad at programming and got into CS because of my love for math. However, I'm still fairly new at doing proofs. My advisors say I can't go wrong with either of these choices and it seems like everyone I talk to is telling me both work. I just can't choose! Both can lead me to my career goal. I'm more interested and excited about math but worry it's not practical enough :/ Can anyone offer me advice on which one to major in? If I choose CS I will JUST be getting a CS degree but if I do math I will minor in CS. I don't have the time to double major.
    Courses I'm taking regardless: Programming 1, Programming 2, Calculus (1-3), Linear Algebra, Discrete Math, Cryptography, Numerical Linear Algebra, and Combinatorics.
    Courses unique to CS major: Programming 3, Intro to Computer Engineering, Machine Organization, Algorithms, Mobile App Development, Software Engineering.
    Courses unique to math major + CS minor: Real Analysis, Abstract Algebra, Elementary Topology.
    So yeah, CS requires more classes than the math major + CS minor. There are fewer courses for the math major but I'm worried about how I'll handle those 3 proof heavy math courses. I wish I had more time to decide!

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  3 года назад +3

      Tough decisions man!!!

    • @benb8708
      @benb8708 3 года назад +1

      Tough choice! What did you end up doing?

  • @nkalebetjamosima9653
    @nkalebetjamosima9653 4 года назад +4

    I am a math and statistics major
    But I really love computer science

  • @fkupaymehaa
    @fkupaymehaa 5 лет назад +12

    As much as I love math; in this era, CompSci is a much more valuable degree. Math is vital tho, it's the fundamentals and pathway to everything STEM related and then some.

  • @momenmahamed9478
    @momenmahamed9478 3 года назад +3

    I think learning math gives you good foundation for learning CS, I'm a sophmore at math and education school and I'm taking a gap-year to explore CS

  • @davidwan6112
    @davidwan6112 Год назад +1

    You don’t need a CS degree for SWE in high tech :) it doesn’t matter. As long as it’s math/physics/CS/engineering you have the basic logically reasoning to learn how to code via leet coding. In terms of software architect, it comes down to experience as the more you code the better you are to grasp the idea of computer linguistics. I am a Quant. I do math and C++ on a regular basis for my job

  • @michaelpieters1844
    @michaelpieters1844 3 года назад +1

    I have been a couple of years into IT but glad I completely left it. Someone senior in our family also has not such a good experience with that sector. As soon as you hit 50 and you are not part of some governmental branch, you are as good as obsolete and one step away of being fired. When it comes to wages you can start pretty high but your salary won't grow as much as in other sectors. You need to continuously learn new tools which is not as interesting as new theory/ideas/concepts. And if you are an IT-consultant, after a certain age, they'll send you to the furthest locations and the shittiest projects just to get rid of you. Also most of the experience that you gained 10 years ago, is practically obsolete for looking for a job now.

  • @Ali124hdkflc
    @Ali124hdkflc 3 года назад +4

    Or you can do the double major in math and comp sci like me! It's deadly and very great combo.

    • @ayse-zo5hz
      @ayse-zo5hz 6 месяцев назад +1

      well, i'm planning to do that. i will start studying math next year, and then i will be able to double major. do you have any advices for me before starting? what should i do?

  • @Yahweh5995
    @Yahweh5995 Год назад +2

    In South Africa Computer Science is offered as a double major . You need to pick a second major so im studying Computer Science and Applied Mathematics .

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 4 года назад +9

    Well, if in doubt, you can always do what my Physics teacher did back when he had to choose between studying Physics and History (since he loved both of them), choose the answer to the question "what is more difficult to learn on my own?" So he chose Physics. Of course, between CS and math, things aren't as clear-cut because of the job prospects, but then again, there are people without any degree working as programmers. Or you could do what Grant Sanderson did, and start an educational math channel (3B1B) using CS skills.

    • @chocolatelover9335
      @chocolatelover9335 4 года назад

      i was in delimma between Cs and math but your comment really opened my eyes ,thanks.

    • @achannel9598
      @achannel9598 3 года назад

      Im currently stuck between choosing cs and math lol..
      Is it possible to get a office job with a math degree? I like to teach ppl but i want to work in a office setting.

  • @jn4198
    @jn4198 4 года назад +3

    I recently changed my major to CS, now im freaking out about the math and science stuff.

  • @hamedhilal7113
    @hamedhilal7113 3 года назад +9

    I'm a med student who's learning math extensively through self-study. How weird is that?

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  3 года назад +3

      That is interesting!!

    • @dildobaggins2759
      @dildobaggins2759 3 года назад +4

      Be careful with that Max i understand you really like math but make sure you put enough time into youre medical studies. One reason I believe i failed my Phsyiology Bachelors is because I was trying to study quite a bit of math per week and physiology as I wanted to do a math degree after my Phsyio Bachelors degree. It didnt really work for my physiology degree as I was getting poor grades. Ime not telling you what to do but be aware bro...

    • @hamedhilal7113
      @hamedhilal7113 3 года назад +1

      @@dildobaggins2759 My grades are quite reasonable though I intend to only get a non-clinical job after MBBS. I don't think I can give up on Physics and math. It's not like a game that I like so much, but more like the only thing that I happen to quite appreciate in life and the one thing that keeps me going!

    • @dildobaggins2759
      @dildobaggins2759 3 года назад +2

      @@hamedhilal7113 Yeh thats fine bro of course dont give up maths but just think about what your main priorities are and remember what you paid for.

  • @eliasmantilla523
    @eliasmantilla523 4 года назад +5

    I love maths, but I really want get the job! Would it be difficult to get a job as software engineer or related with a math degree? Would it be so difficult to make that transition? Because I would really like to explore mathematics but I don’t want to become a teacher.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +3

      You could do it for sure, but you need to have the skills. If you have the skills necessary for the job then yes you could get a job. The thing is, if you want be a software engineer usually programs like CS or Math prepare you better. If you have the skills though, you can do it!

  • @hewhointheearthlydomainsee1272
    @hewhointheearthlydomainsee1272 Месяц назад

    I might need to do a second degree in mathematics with exposure to quantum physics and artificial intelligence and other interesting things. IT/computing that I am nearly finished doing is too weak. Computer science seems to be a little bit like IT/computing but goes into some other interesting subjects like symbolic programming and compiler design. But to be a rounded student, and to be that person which that can engage deeply and with the many emerging fields, Mathematics might be a good primary, especially if it leads to the ability to engage with those emerging fields better.
    I want a deeper foundation and broad engagement with many fields.
    The only problem is funding a second degrees. I am strong in mathematics and applied mathematics from secondary a long time ago though. I may be more prepared to manage deeper studies.

  • @Trenny-G
    @Trenny-G 3 года назад +8

    Idk why I’m here...I’m a history major 😂😂
    Great vid tho

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  3 года назад +4

      Haha that's awesome . History is great😁

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 Год назад

    When I was in college, my professor/academic advisor wanted me to major in both! Unfortunately, I lacked the CS background so I got my BA in just Math. However, I look at programming as just a handy tool to have under your belt.

  • @d6853
    @d6853 3 года назад +5

    Here in the UK (I dont know about anywhere else) We have a course called ‘mathematicians and computer science’, you get a masters in mathematics or a masters in computer science depending on which university (the course is about half and half) but I really don’t know if I should go mathematics, computer science or the joint course.
    Both sound ideal but it’s the fact that it is a 50% split that I don’t like. This is a tough choice to make!

  • @guidofeliz8384
    @guidofeliz8384 3 года назад +4

    STUDY WHAT YOU LOVE.

  • @mannydossantos9603
    @mannydossantos9603 Год назад

    If anyone achieves a degree with Math as a major, that person is respected anywhere in the workplace. It's a fantastic platform for other degrees or career paths, including Computer Science. I knew one Computer Science graduate that couldn't multiply 2X2 without the help of a calculator (obviously, I'm exaggerating here).

  • @theboombody
    @theboombody 5 месяцев назад

    I took ONE programming class, and that was enough to make me shun computer science forever. Looking for the typo I made in the programming syntax through all those lines of code was maddening. So I ended up getting a bachelor's in math and stopping there. Made getting a job hard because most employers actively looking for math graduates want someone who's willing to go beyond a bachelors, and there aren't all that many employers looking for math graduates at all. In my local community, I'd imagine most of the business that are hiring have recruiters that really have no idea what higher-level proof-based math is.
    But despite those obstacles I managed to survive. I'd highly recommend computer science or engineering over math for career purposes if you can handle either one of those. But things worked out for me too and I ended up in accounting. But I still love math WAY more than accounting and I always will. Just not enough to invest in grad school for it because I don't have all that much talent to justify the expense.

  • @calcado
    @calcado 5 месяцев назад

    Hey! I'm a CS major wanting to go into academia (theory of computatjon and logic, more specifically type theory), here in Europe we have the bologna system, in which we need a Masters before going into a Ph.D. Would you recommend doing a Masters in Math before going into the Ph.D. or stick with CS?

  • @melanyanguilar5620
    @melanyanguilar5620 3 года назад +3

    Hi Math Sorcerer! Did you end up minoring in anything or just a major in math? And if I’m majoring in math do you recommend a minor or do you think that would be too much for a math major?

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  3 года назад

      I almost minored but I didn’t. I used to not think it was important to minor, but if you want to I think you should. You will learn more regardless of what you minor in.👍

  • @redflag40
    @redflag40 3 года назад +1

    UCSD has a Mathematics department Computer Science degree, you are required to take the same core CS classes as their CSE majors but you have access to a wide variety of upperdiv Math and CS electives.

  • @MrJonjoe1977
    @MrJonjoe1977 3 года назад

    In the UK some universities offer masters conversion courses. So you could do an honours degree in maths if that's what you enjoy. When your finished that you can do the CS masters course that only lasts a year and a half. Lots of IT firms accept it here. That way you can have the best of both. Not sure if something similar is available in the US?

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 Год назад

    I remember when CS was a small division within the Math department, but that was decades ago; however, the discipline of Math is good for CS, and by extension, any field of study.

  • @121juggernaut
    @121juggernaut 2 года назад +2

    The best jobs in computer science requires a lot of math so I would say minor in math.

  • @brawlbro7384
    @brawlbro7384 Год назад +2

    Why not both 😃

  • @elisamartinez202
    @elisamartinez202 3 года назад +5

    try both 😂 I’m double majoring in both and crying inside

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  3 года назад +2

      Lol

    • @glife54
      @glife54 3 года назад +1

      Oh my how was the experience?

    • @elisamartinez202
      @elisamartinez202 3 года назад +1

      @@glife54 How is going!!! I have 33 more credits to finish it all. It's pretty cool. I am specializing in data science though and computer vision (not pure math sorry). And setting the bases for research and Ph.D. later on :) Oh, also I learned that I don't need a master's degree to do a Ph.D. here in the US. That's amazing!

  • @chrisd961
    @chrisd961 3 года назад +4

    Here's an actual situation with a colleague of mine who is working as a software engineer for a VR company. He was doing great with coding and stuff but since he's working with VR, matrices and transformations are involved, so he had to take a whole month off just to learn all of that stuff. I took it as an advice and as a CS student, focusing on maths is like solving a problem as a future investment rather than focusing all my focus on CS concepts and coding. Basically, take CS to solve a short term problem (money, career ASAP), take Maths to make life easier in the long run!

  • @ebentually
    @ebentually 3 года назад

    I'd also advise people to just try one out of both out, as both are extremely similar/related to each other it is actually fairly easy to change your major midway

  • @Luingus
    @Luingus Год назад

    My Answer: Both! My college offers a combined comp sci and math degree so you can combine the best of both worlds!

  • @wave7949
    @wave7949 Месяц назад

    Would this comparison still apply when comparing Computer Science versus Applied and Computational Math at Bachelors?

  • @theotryhard8651
    @theotryhard8651 3 года назад +3

    Math is just as valued as computer science in the same fields.

  • @user-vs1cm8nv5i
    @user-vs1cm8nv5i Год назад

    I'm majoring in software engineering* but I want to become a mathematical (and philosophical) wizard outside of school.
    * some SE programs include little to no math and CS theory but mine does. if I didn't have a prior degree I would've done CS

  • @chandrabhattasriram9475
    @chandrabhattasriram9475 3 года назад

    Computer Science = Applied Math + A lot of details about how computers work.
    The "Applied Math" part is especially true because Math is the basis for a lot of things in CS.
    Basic Examples:
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    1. There are "variables" both in math and programming. In math, we assume some quantity to be 'x' or 'y'. In programming, we assign some value to some variable name i.e., x = 10; y = "some_string";
    2. Functions in a programming language, are directly mapped from functions in math. A function in (say) python, takes in an input and depending on the input parameters, gives an output. In the same way, a function in math, takes in input(s) in the form of variables and provides an output.
    Hard Examples:
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    1. Building a 3D donut using C Programming [Related to Computer Graphics]: www.a1k0n.net/2011/07/20/donut-math.html
    2. Visualizing MNIST Data [Related to AI/ML; Uses Prob, Stats & Calculus]: colah.github.io/posts/2014-10-Visualizing-MNIST/
    3. Math behind Neural Networks [Related to AI/ML; Uses Calculus]: becominghuman.ai/understanding-neural-networks-2-the-math-of-neural-networks-in-3-equations-6085fd3f09df

  • @cardcode8345
    @cardcode8345 3 года назад +2

    What is better electrical engineering specialization in controls theory or Double major in math and Computer science?
    What will give better foundation to both tech and finance ?

    • @achannel9598
      @achannel9598 3 года назад

      Tbh if you wanna work in tech and finance i feel like math and comp sci would be more useful to you since its literally the fundamentals of tech.

  • @leytonbennet2692
    @leytonbennet2692 2 года назад +1

    You can get a lot of CS jobs with a math degree as well. The two are very closely related.

    • @1gobjroot525
      @1gobjroot525 Год назад

      can you get a job at faang companies with a math degree? /srs

    • @realcirno1750
      @realcirno1750 11 месяцев назад

      i dont know if you are still looking for an answer to that question but im pretty sure they do hire math degrees@@1gobjroot525

  • @sohan-IA
    @sohan-IA 3 года назад +2

    CS IS BEST
    WITH MATHS YOU NEED ONE MORE DEGREE FOR GETTING A PROFESSIONAL JOB SO CS IS GOOD

  • @alextroy8692
    @alextroy8692 2 года назад

    Hey, what do you think about a Bsc in applied math and computing? , it has a lot of applied math (abstract and linear algebra, multivariable calculus, ODE, PDE, numerical methods- a lot ,statistics, probability, complex analysis, stochastic processes, applied functional analysis, simulation in probability and statistics, mathematical modelling techniques) and some computer science (Programming-Matlab, Programming techniques, Cryptography, Computer structure, Automata and formal languages theory, data structures and algorithms, AI, operating systems, Computer arquitecture, heuristics and optimization, files and databases, compilers, SW verification techniques, functional programming, Machine Learning). What do you think about it (for research in the intersection of math and CS (cryptography, AI...) ? Also it open the doors for scientific computing which can be used for sciences and engineering.

  • @asy42699
    @asy42699 Год назад

    So I picked Computer science ryt, but i also have to choose something tht'll go with it between Applied mathematics and Pure mathematics. My question is, which "mathematics" should I pick

  • @realcirno1750
    @realcirno1750 11 месяцев назад

    the tables are turning with regards to the job opportunities comparison

  • @freshlysqueezedaesthetics2942
    @freshlysqueezedaesthetics2942 2 года назад

    My school has a math program that focuses on data science. So you still learn things like real analysis but you also learn R,Python, econometrics and more.

  • @me921
    @me921 3 года назад

    What about someone who’s choosing between math and physics? Any advice?

  • @ArlieDaBunny
    @ArlieDaBunny 3 года назад +2

    Is doing a double degree in computer science and mathematics a solid choice?

  • @maxhess3151
    @maxhess3151 3 года назад +8

    My brother got a BA in mathematics so he could work in computer science.

  • @emlmm88
    @emlmm88 5 лет назад +8

    Math.

  • @KARTHIK_P_108
    @KARTHIK_P_108 4 года назад +3

    Is it worth studying (bsc hons Computer science and mathematics)

  • @michaelsich7864
    @michaelsich7864 Год назад +1

    im both

  • @lusherenren4222
    @lusherenren4222 4 года назад

    Just do math and go all the way, I'm doing a masters in ml and its mostly applied math. CS is a subset of math anyway... Abstraction is power lol

  • @shivamsrivastava664
    @shivamsrivastava664 Год назад

    People having degree in maths can go for quant trader opportunities and in iits they r offered the highest packages more than sde...though for quant roles people from cs and ee are also given opportunity

  • @DxGamer6767
    @DxGamer6767 2 месяца назад

    Honestly with the current state of the tech industry along with the saturation and possible collapse of big tech companies, I'd say it's even

  • @guidofeliz8384
    @guidofeliz8384 3 года назад +5

    Get a math degree if you plan to teach high school math. Get a computer science degree if you plan work in an office environment.

  • @anniesizemore3344
    @anniesizemore3344 Год назад

    My only thought at the moment: major in education with specialization in math.

  • @jeanjulmis2347
    @jeanjulmis2347 2 года назад

    I am majoring in computer science, and at I want to major in mathematics as well.

  • @gisellabradley7270
    @gisellabradley7270 5 лет назад +8

    Math 💜

  • @arielfuxman8868
    @arielfuxman8868 4 года назад +5

    What about applied Math?

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +5

      That's a good mix! Several schools have really interesting math degrees that empasize other subjects too

  • @briank0530
    @briank0530 3 года назад +4

    is that Jeff Bezos with long hair

  • @God-ld6ll
    @God-ld6ll 2 года назад +1

    Computer Math. (not-necessarily-false joke)

  • @ccuuttww
    @ccuuttww 5 лет назад +5

    Don't linkage the following " get a degree = get a high salary job "
    Your boss only care What u can do? What u have done? Degree? no one care
    When u come out to work u will find that most of the problem u cannot find on textbook
    from your professor and sometimes it need several domain of knowledge
    If u want to get a high salary job
    Let's show your unique ability, critical thinking and innovation
    that's the key u can never learn in school
    BTW
    Sorcerer can I suggest some topic for your channel?

  • @PM-xd6nv
    @PM-xd6nv 3 года назад

    Let's get an undergraduate in comp sci and a graduate in Maths.

  • @bobobobee9708
    @bobobobee9708 Год назад

    Yeah to be honest, if you blitz a math degree, programming jobs will be very accessible to you… I’d rather work with some guy with strong maths skills that did not know the language yet, than someone who had loads of experience but wrote crap.

  • @vipchannel5417
    @vipchannel5417 3 года назад

    Which is best business maths or computer science

  • @deathhunter1029
    @deathhunter1029 Год назад

    Both!

  • @sultanwiranatakusumah4154
    @sultanwiranatakusumah4154 11 месяцев назад

    Thankyou sir

  • @anonynanuz9216
    @anonynanuz9216 4 года назад +2

    Can I do my masters in mathematics with a computer science bachelor degree?

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +3

      yup!

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  4 года назад +1

      It might be a little harder, but totally doable. I've known people who have done a masters in math with business and music degrees as undergrads.

    • @anonynanuz9216
      @anonynanuz9216 4 года назад

      @@TheMathSorcerer okay, thanks for the quick reply!

    • @kafirmohallida8486
      @kafirmohallida8486 2 года назад

      That's what I'm thinking of right now...

  • @thoranevans4832
    @thoranevans4832 3 года назад

    What do you think about statistics?

  • @optimizedpran1247
    @optimizedpran1247 3 года назад

    I did both.

  • @mysteriousbootyhead2083
    @mysteriousbootyhead2083 4 года назад +5

    im more passionate for math, but i know computer science is smarter choice. idk anymore

    • @onlineenglish6653
      @onlineenglish6653 4 года назад +2

      I don’t reckon that cs is smarter degree.Thanks to the skills of math you are capable to learn the cs easily.Having the math degree denotes that you think critically and having a high range of problem solving.With that soft skills you are able to do more than you guess

  • @QWERTY-vv5xc
    @QWERTY-vv5xc 4 года назад +2

    Yes, there are only two majors.

  • @YoungEli9
    @YoungEli9 Год назад

    How about computational mathematics?

  • @ahmedshezova5552
    @ahmedshezova5552 2 года назад

    What about computer science and mathematics

  • @TomokoAbe_
    @TomokoAbe_ Год назад

    You are 100% correct. A Bachelor's degree specializing in math is not going to cut the cake. Computer science is the better choice. Now I do have a Master's degree and I CAN get a job in at a university or community college, but I would have to relocate, sell the house, and pHD would become mandatory though the school would pay for the tuition. At my age...62..but I already have a clear-cut career in my chosen field and the grad degree gave nice substantial pay raises.

  • @jessicasanchez134
    @jessicasanchez134 3 года назад

    Lol can I have your opinion on actuarial science 👀