Rinzai's: Nothing further to seek.
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I keep coming back to this 🙏
All those lousy moments that we are preoccupied with are gone without noticing. what was your problem three problems ago?There was no before and there is no after
Love that. The current problem always feels life-threatening to me. But I can't even remember the last. Thank you!
17 problems ago was only 7 minutes ago , for my manic think machine .
From birth until death it is just this.
Thank you Martin for your teachings really helpful and enlightening
When I heard you speaking an image conjured in my mind:
A man in distress,
Running in circles,
Desperate,
Looking in every direction,
Screaming, WHERE ARE MY EYES!!!???
😅😅
got this from midnight gospel
Love your chant at the beginning, like I Actually loved it..
love the dry sense of humour. by god, modern buddhism needs one!
From what I understand, maybe I'm wrong but non action is simple to understand, to be mindfully in the present moment, fully engaged in what you're doing, not in the ego, & nonattached to internal & external phenomena as it comes & goes...To do this at all times & you're a master, one with practice.
Yep. That's it.
Love your work, thankyou
You've inspired me to spread dharma. So many books to make audio for youtube.
Since there is nothing to seek, there are no enlightened beings, there is only enlightened activity. 🙏
I like the book written by Byung-Chul Han - The Philosophy of Zen Buddhism (2022).
I highly recommend this book to anybody interested in this topic.
Lovely video.
Very Nice, Thank You.
Thank You.
Hey what a surprise , were searching your channel but couldn't even remember the name correctly, thanks for bumping into this fool.
Thank you.
excellent video thank you
That's a great quote written above.
No CRAVING, no aversion, be happy.
Modern Commentary on the Teachings of Master Linji by Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh :
........You may be a student of Master Linji, even if you don’t know his name. If you practice to live more fully and happily in the present moment, then you are a student of Master Linji. In the Zen tradition, his spirit is in everything we’re taught and everything we do. Master Linji lived during the Tang dynasty in China. He was born in western Shandong province, just south of the Huang Ho (Yellow) River, sometime between 810 and 815. When he was still young, he left his family and traveled north to study with Zen Patriarch Huangbo in his monastery near Hongzhou in Jiangxi province, just south of the Yangzi River. It was a time of political instability in China. There was government repression of Buddhism, which culminated in a decree, issued in 845 by the emperor Tang Wu Zong, ordering all monks and nuns to disrobe and return to lay life. Many temples and statues were destroyed, particularly in the cities. Monasteries in outlying areas were less affected. After several years, the young Linji was sent by his teacher to study briefly with the reclusive monk Dayu, after which time he returned to live with the monks at Patriarch Huangbo’s temple. Later he had his own temple in Zhengzhou, Hebei province, where he taught in his signature direct and dramatic style. As was the custom in China at the time, he took his name, Linji, from the name of the mountain on which he lived and taught. He resided there until he passed away in 867. He never wrote down his teachings, but his students recorded and compiled them in The Record of Master Linji. As a young monk, Linji studied diligently and gained a deep and extensive knowledge of the Tripitaka, the three baskets of the Buddhist teachings: the sutras, commentaries, and vinaya (monastic precepts). He noticed that although many monks studied very diligently, their studies didn’t influence their understanding and transformation. They appeared to be seeking knowledge only to increase their fame or position in the temple. So Master Linji let go of his studies in order to follow true Zen practice. Many of us have spent our whole lives learning, questioning, and searching. But even on the path of enlightenment, if all we do is study, we’re wasting our time and that of our teacher. This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t study; study and practice help each other. But what’s important is not the goal we’re seeking- even if that goal is enlightenment- but living each moment of our daily lives truly and fully. Master Linji had a solid knowledge of the Buddhist canon, but his teaching method was based on his confidence that human beings need only to wake up to their true nature and live as ordinary people. Master Linji didn’t call himself a Zen master. He called himself a “good spiritual friend,” someone who could help others on the path. Master Linji called those who had insight to teach, “the host,” and the student, the one who comes to learn, “the guest.” In Master Linji’s time, some Buddhist terms were used so often they became meaningless. People chewed on words like “liberation” and “enlightenment” until they lost their power. It’s no different today. People use words that tire our ears. We hear the words “freedom” and “security” on talk radio, television, and in the newspaper so often that they’ve lost their effectiveness. When words are overused, even the most beautiful words can lose their true meaning. For example, the word “love” is a wonderful word. When we like to eat hamburgers, we say, “I love hamburgers.” So what’s left of the deeper meaning of the word “love”? It’s the same with Buddhist words. Someone may be able to speak beautifully about compassion, wisdom, or nonself, but this doesn’t necessarily help others. And the speaker may still have a big self or treat others badly. His eloquent speech may be only empty words. We can get tired of all these words, even the word “Buddha.” So to wake people up, Master Linji invented new terms and new ways of saying things that would respond to the needs of his time. For example, Master Linji invented the term the “businessless person,” the person who has nothing to do and nowhere to go. This was his ideal example of what a person could be. In Theravada Buddhism, the ideal person was the arhat, someone who practiced to attain enlightenment. In Mahayana Buddhism, the ideal person was the bodhisattva, a compassionate being who, on the path of enlightenment, helped others. According to Master Linji, the businessless person is someone who doesn’t run after enlightenment or grasp at anything, even if that thing is the Buddha. This person has simply stopped. She is no longer caught by anything, even theories or teachings. The businessless person is the true person inside each one of us. This is the essential teaching of Master Linji. When we learn to stop and be truly alive in the present moment, we are in touch with what’s going on within and around us. We aren’t carried away by the past, the future, our thinking, ideas, emotions, and projects. Often we think that our ideas about things are the reality of that thing. Our notion of the Buddha may be just an idea and may be far from reality. The Buddha outside ourselves was a human being who was born, lived, and died. For us to seek such a Buddha would be to seek a shadow, a ghost Buddha, and at some point our idea of Buddha would become an obstacle for us. Master Linji said that when we meet the ghost Buddha, we should cut off his head. Whether we’re looking inside or outside ourselves, we need to cut off the head of whatever we meet, and abandon the views and ideas we have about things, including our ideas about Buddhism and Buddhist teachings. Buddhist teachings are not exalted words and scriptures existing outside us, sitting on a high shelf in the temple, but are medicine for our ills. Buddhist teachings are skillful means to cure our ignorance, craving, and anger, as well as our habit of seeking things outside and not having confidence in ourselves. Insight can’t be found in sutras, commentaries, or Dharma talks. Liberation and awakened understanding can’t be found by devoting ourselves to the study of the Buddhist scriptures. This is like hoping to find fresh water in dry bones. Returning to the present moment, using our clear mind that exists right here and now, we can be in touch with liberation and enlightenment, as well as with the Buddha and all his disciples as living realities right in this moment. The person who has nothing to do doesn’t need to put on airs or leave any trace behind. The true person is an active participant, engaged in her environment while remaining unoppressed by it. Although all phenomena are going through the various appearances of birth, abiding, changing, and dying, the true person doesn’t become a victim of sadness, happiness, love, or hate. She lives in awareness as an ordinary person, whether standing, walking, lying down, or sitting. She doesn’t act a part, even the part of a great Zen master. This is what Master Linji means by “Be sovereign wherever you are and use that place as your seat of awakening.” We may wonder, “If a person has no direction, isn’t yearning to realize an ideal, and doesn’t have an aim in life, then who will help living beings be liberated, who will rescue those who are drowning in the ocean of suffering?” A Buddha is a person who has no more business to do and isn’t looking for anything. In doing nothing, in simply stopping, we can live freely and be true to ourselves, and our liberation will contribute to the liberation of all beings.
This comment is full to overflowing with Buddha. Linji was not. In his recorded talks, he rarely even rarely even mentions Buddha or Buddhism. Linji was a Zen kid, not a Buddhist.
Zen is art of work
臨濟義玄,Recently I am extremly attraced by zen and life changes a lot, I think a word "空“ ,it means nothing, or nothing is everything. Hope it can improve my life quality ..
maybe there is nothing to improve...:)
Seeking nothing is still seeking. Don't seek anything.
Modern Commentary on the Teachings of Master Linji by Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh :
........You may be a student of Master Linji, even if you don’t know his name. If you practice to live more fully and happily in the present moment, then you are a student of Master Linji. In the Zen tradition, his spirit is in everything we’re taught and everything we do. Master Linji lived during the Tang dynasty in China. He was born in western Shandong province, just south of the Huang Ho (Yellow) River, sometime between 810 and 815. When he was still young, he left his family and traveled north to study with Zen Patriarch Huangbo in his monastery near Hongzhou in Jiangxi province, just south of the Yangzi River. It was a time of political instability in China. There was government repression of Buddhism, which culminated in a decree, issued in 845 by the emperor Tang Wu Zong, ordering all monks and nuns to disrobe and return to lay life. Many temples and statues were destroyed, particularly in the cities. Monasteries in outlying areas were less affected. After several years, the young Linji was sent by his teacher to study briefly with the reclusive monk Dayu, after which time he returned to live with the monks at Patriarch Huangbo’s temple. Later he had his own temple in Zhengzhou, Hebei province, where he taught in his signature direct and dramatic style. As was the custom in China at the time, he took his name, Linji, from the name of the mountain on which he lived and taught. He resided there until he passed away in 867. He never wrote down his teachings, but his students recorded and compiled them in The Record of Master Linji. As a young monk, Linji studied diligently and gained a deep and extensive knowledge of the Tripitaka, the three baskets of the Buddhist teachings: the sutras, commentaries, and vinaya (monastic precepts). He noticed that although many monks studied very diligently, their studies didn’t influence their understanding and transformation. They appeared to be seeking knowledge only to increase their fame or position in the temple. So Master Linji let go of his studies in order to follow true Zen practice. Many of us have spent our whole lives learning, questioning, and searching. But even on the path of enlightenment, if all we do is study, we’re wasting our time and that of our teacher. This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t study; study and practice help each other. But what’s important is not the goal we’re seeking- even if that goal is enlightenment- but living each moment of our daily lives truly and fully. Master Linji had a solid knowledge of the Buddhist canon, but his teaching method was based on his confidence that human beings need only to wake up to their true nature and live as ordinary people. Master Linji didn’t call himself a Zen master. He called himself a “good spiritual friend,” someone who could help others on the path. Master Linji called those who had insight to teach, “the host,” and the student, the one who comes to learn, “the guest.” In Master Linji’s time, some Buddhist terms were used so often they became meaningless. People chewed on words like “liberation” and “enlightenment” until they lost their power. It’s no different today. People use words that tire our ears. We hear the words “freedom” and “security” on talk radio, television, and in the newspaper so often that they’ve lost their effectiveness. When words are overused, even the most beautiful words can lose their true meaning. For example, the word “love” is a wonderful word. When we like to eat hamburgers, we say, “I love hamburgers.” So what’s left of the deeper meaning of the word “love”? It’s the same with Buddhist words. Someone may be able to speak beautifully about compassion, wisdom, or nonself, but this doesn’t necessarily help others. And the speaker may still have a big self or treat others badly. His eloquent speech may be only empty words. We can get tired of all these words, even the word “Buddha.” So to wake people up, Master Linji invented new terms and new ways of saying things that would respond to the needs of his time. For example, Master Linji invented the term the “businessless person,” the person who has nothing to do and nowhere to go. This was his ideal example of what a person could be. In Theravada Buddhism, the ideal person was the arhat, someone who practiced to attain enlightenment. In Mahayana Buddhism, the ideal person was the bodhisattva, a compassionate being who, on the path of enlightenment, helped others. According to Master Linji, the businessless person is someone who doesn’t run after enlightenment or grasp at anything, even if that thing is the Buddha. This person has simply stopped. She is no longer caught by anything, even theories or teachings. The businessless person is the true person inside each one of us. This is the essential teaching of Master Linji. When we learn to stop and be truly alive in the present moment, we are in touch with what’s going on within and around us. We aren’t carried away by the past, the future, our thinking, ideas, emotions, and projects. Often we think that our ideas about things are the reality of that thing. Our notion of the Buddha may be just an idea and may be far from reality. The Buddha outside ourselves was a human being who was born, lived, and died. For us to seek such a Buddha would be to seek a shadow, a ghost Buddha, and at some point our idea of Buddha would become an obstacle for us. Master Linji said that when we meet the ghost Buddha, we should cut off his head. Whether we’re looking inside or outside ourselves, we need to cut off the head of whatever we meet, and abandon the views and ideas we have about things, including our ideas about Buddhism and Buddhist teachings. Buddhist teachings are not exalted words and scriptures existing outside us, sitting on a high shelf in the temple, but are medicine for our ills. Buddhist teachings are skillful means to cure our ignorance, craving, and anger, as well as our habit of seeking things outside and not having confidence in ourselves. Insight can’t be found in sutras, commentaries, or Dharma talks. Liberation and awakened understanding can’t be found by devoting ourselves to the study of the Buddhist scriptures. This is like hoping to find fresh water in dry bones. Returning to the present moment, using our clear mind that exists right here and now, we can be in touch with liberation and enlightenment, as well as with the Buddha and all his disciples as living realities right in this moment. The person who has nothing to do doesn’t need to put on airs or leave any trace behind. The true person is an active participant, engaged in her environment while remaining unoppressed by it. Although all phenomena are going through the various appearances of birth, abiding, changing, and dying, the true person doesn’t become a victim of sadness, happiness, love, or hate. She lives in awareness as an ordinary person, whether standing, walking, lying down, or sitting. She doesn’t act a part, even the part of a great Zen master. This is what Master Linji means by “Be sovereign wherever you are and use that place as your seat of awakening.” We may wonder, “If a person has no direction, isn’t yearning to realize an ideal, and doesn’t have an aim in life, then who will help living beings be liberated, who will rescue those who are drowning in the ocean of suffering?” A Buddha is a person who has no more business to do and isn’t looking for anything. In doing nothing, in simply stopping, we can live freely and be true to ourselves, and our liberation will contribute to the liberation of all beings.
@@bth992002 correct
An excellent talk. Thank you 😊 very much Greatly appreciated
Rinzai " When I eat I only eat, and when I sleep I only sleep"
Somebody said " But nothing special in that, everybody is doing it"
Rinzai " If everybody is doing it, everybody is a Buddha, everybody is enlightened then".
"...but because of their sticky attachments they cannot see"
Dominic (from The Zen Gateway)
This is great, although I recently found my lego and it is still awesome! 😁 Thank you
Peace
Nothing further to seek; The fish never asks where is the ocean because it is in the ocean already, this destroys the seeking altogether
The fish never asks that because fish is idiotic . They never ask yet never enlightened.
A human asks but afterwards he no longer asks.
That's the difference.
Thank you, Martin.
Bravo. Gassho.
For some reason in my mind the word "faith" has so many phoney connotations with it that it makes be feel.... well.... phoney inside. I like how you referred to it as trust instead of great faith. I feel as though having great trust instead of great faith is a more motivating and sincere way of walking the path of Zen. I know that when you say faith you are referring to trust but like I said I feel funny inside when I think about being faithful. It's probably just the way I interpret the word faith but that is just how I feel. Thank you for making this video. I absolutely loved it my friend. Have a wonderful day today 😊
Hi Nightone, thank you for your comment.
The Buddha was very expicit about not taking his word for it. He urged practitioners to find out for themselves if what he was saying was true. Faith in the way, or true faith in the way, comes from experience. The fact is that in order for the teachings of the Buddha to be really understood they must be experienced by the individual, though obviously some trust is needed if we are going to investigate these teachings.
Blind faith, at least in the Zen school, will not carry you across to the far shore.
Dominic
"If you know fundamentally that there is nothing to seek you have settled your affairs."
Nothing to seek would imply the end of exploring and learning. Everything is fluid and never stagnant, changing and evolving endlessly. How can there be nothing to seek? Our playful souls are always exploring, experiencing, and expanding.
Perhaps that original teaching was misinterpreted or misunderstood due to human bias. Perhaps it is about reaching inner peace through gratitude and humbleness.
And if it is about inner peace, what does faith have to do with it? Inner peace can be achieved by making choices that align with love, which is our divine soul's true nature. When we make choices that do not align with love, we get guilt, stress, anxiety, and fear, all courtesy of the ego mind as designed. Understandably that is easy to say and hard to do, because rarely is the better choice the easy choice. Our history has shown most are quite comfortable being in the grip of the ego mind, dwelling in greed, selfishness, and envy.
We are magnificent beings, not born here to suffer, and not born here as sinners. We are born here to be happy and joyful as we carry out an immense challenge that our soul took on with great passion. Be service to love and break down that veil of forgetfulness to reveal our true divine nature within that is love. God (aka Higher Self, Creative Source, Prime Creator) is pure unconditional love. Is it any wonder that all high consciousness messengers/mentors throughout the ages taught us an alternative way to live that aligns with love.
Love is the Truth.
All the best!
Is that so?
What or who makes it so?
If one does not live in the present one cannot live at all. Before enlightenment chop wood and carry water after enlightenment chop wood and carry water. You do have things without attachment, fear and hatred.
You must not be acquainted with Buddhist teachings.
Is there a way I can download that prayer in beginning, same version as it is here, l just love it, ah, dear wonderful being here on the earth together in this time , no matter where we are physically, I have listened to you so many times, and I love you, sorry being so late wish you a still, peaceful days in this new year.
Hi, Yes you can find it here: www.izauk.org/multimedia-archive/hannya-shingyo-the-heart-sutra/
🙏☸️🙏
🙏🏼💐🌺🍀🍂🌸
Desirelessness.....
Sounds very Daoist in places. Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu were most likely zen masters before the term was known.
This is a picture of Zen master Bankei, not Rinzai (Linji).
Dhukkha also means dissatisfaction. It is mentioned in the Pali Canons.
It means sorrow in Hindi. India..
Nothing to seek because there is no seeker.
My right ear enjoys this.
Lifehack: put your right earbud in your left ear!
Dukkha means dissatisfaction, simply 🙂
the movie should have subtitles
Speaking of the heart rolling with a 1000 things, prophet Muhammad said the heart is like a feather dropped from above; it never goes down straight, it flips and turns over sideways and upside down. He also compared the heart to a boiling pot bubbling up-and-down.
Even the word for heart in Arabic ..qalb قلب means something which turns back-and-forth.
But if we focus our heart on Allah and His names and characteristics we will feel a settled peace.
That is a major difference between Islam and Buddhism. Buddhism directs you to empty your mind of everything.
But the mind and heart are connected.
Hi Diane, very interesting comment, thank you. The first thing to say is that in Buddhism the mind and the heart are the same thing, in fact they make up the totality of experience. When we say empty the mind/heart, what we are referring to is emptying our attachments to the objects that appear in the mind, thus freeing it to act in a way that is unencumbered from 'me'. The heart free from 'I' then 'rolls with the 10,000 things'. As a side note, in Pure Land Buddhism this practice also involves reciting the name of the pure land Buddha to settle the heart. I find it wonderful how universal these principles seem to be.
Dominic
@@thezengateway8578 Most scholars today recognize Buddha as a prophet sent by Allah with the truth. I agree with that.
@@thezengateway8578 This is wonderful because prophet Muhammad used to hate the word I.
@@dayan47 Yes, my understanding is that in the Koran there is mention of many unnamed prophets and that Islamic scholars have sought to identify some of them. Buddha is thought by many to be one.
@@thezengateway8578 Yes. May I suggest that you write Quran not Koran. This is because in Arabic the k, q, u and o are different letters.
This is in order to have proper transliteration, as I see you are of a scholarly mind..meaning seeking truth.
Excellent very clear ,but no it the Truth is Universal ,Zen is a particular approach which Rinzais teachings cuts out from underneathe us . Nothing to seek ?
What is the difference between: Soto and Rinzai?
TheLatiosnlatias02
Same shit, different clues.
Soto was pushed by that murdering SOB, Dogen. Basically, Soto is the seen as the gradual path to enlightenment (just meditate forever), while Rinzai aims for abrupt, immediate awakening. They're not in conflict - more just a case of differing emphasis.
Plus, Rinzai kids are the authors of all the cool sayings. :)
Soto practice sudden enlightenment, the act of zazen, to take the right posture, is it self the right state of mind, practice is it self enlightenment (practice-enlightenment.) you might say if we’re already enlightened why do we need to practice? This, you, all is itself enlightenment already, we just have dust in our so to speak that we must clear daily to see this truth. Roshi Shunryu of Soto put it brilliantly: you are perfect just the way you are, but you could also use a little improvement. Rinzai is the school of gradual enlightenment, although they practice to attain enlightenment, the key is that the master knows there is nothing to attain and no one to be enlightened, and that finally, they come to the same conclusion that you already are, everything already is what you seek, everything is already and always enlightened, all is enlightenment itself; however they get their students to reach this revelation themselves by forcing them to exhaustion Thru rigorous practice to break down their egos and eventually come to the realization that all of their efforts to attain enlightenment are for not, for in the end they see there was and is nothing ever to attain and no one to attain anything, so thru their exhaustive practice they “bump their heads over and over by seeking, only to finally learn how to not bump their heads until they finally become wise” the fools path to wisdom as it were. They come to see how to cease all seeking, by seeking rigorously with all their being, but there is no how in the end Bc how implies a method that is acted out by ego and striving. So the two different schools approach to practice, their “games rules and journey” slightly differ but finally come to the same conclusion, the same realization. So contrary to popular belief, they do not oppose or disagree with each other as most think, although there is a healthy dreadfully sincere playful competitiveness And playful prodding between the two schools, both sets masters have a slight twinkle in their eyes for they know they are playing the same game with the same outcome just different approaches to that outcome. Words make zen very difficult to understand, just practice. Don’t get caught by words. Gassho
You make a mistake where you refer to Chinese Tendai as Esoteric.
Only Japanese Tendai has Esoteric elements.
The Chinese "Tendai" (Tien Tai) is not Tantric, it's purely Sutric.
AirSandFire thanks for the clarification. I’m guessing this was Saicho’s syncretism to combine the Tien tai teachings with other forms of Chinese esoteric teaching during his training period in China and not something about already part of Chinese Tien tai?
@@thezengateway8578 Indeed! Exactly
What are you seeking ?
if you are the finally an enlightened, who just cant to seek for a nothing, according to nature of an empty mind - an eyes see, an ears hear. and nothing more.
Nonsense word salad.
Alan Watts?
That's not Alan Watts' style. I think it's Martin Goodson
What universe ? Wue Wei = non action being or just arising ,not being according to rules systems etc to want to be seem as a good Buddhist etc ,egoism? Doing what seeking ?
That's Google out of business then ... I'll just get my coat.
My right ear was critical
no teacher, no textbook, no lesson.
Everyone posting cliche sayings or faux "wisdom" in these comments is a fraud trying to think out Zen.
Absolutely true, only can i taste, then to describe what it was, certainly will be something other , but yeah masters had that art to seduce us, so the mouth can open and the real thing can be placed and leaved off to the teeths and tounge.
Its impossible to seek nothing(ie. money) when the whole society/government is seeking/sucking($) it all from you.
It is possible, but far from easy. Just as happiness comes from within and not without, detachment can be practiced and begins within.
This is a concept you have made. Put it down and there is no problem.
Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. No one is asking you to stop anything. One can go doing what they always been doing but keeping themselves and others in mind without getting entangled with the world. I just experience my experience and I am awake and aware while its happening.
What if you let go of the game?
Martin Goodson, Gassho!
lots of 'uh' s
Gassho
Far out you have said so much and none of it is Zen.
Q: What is Zen?
A:.............
So if you all knowing which was the first chicken or the egg?
Then, silence!
One word is too much knowing.
In Rinzi they eat they own vomit.
Dude you just effing ramble don't you?
Can somebody explain why it's okay that so many Chinese things are known through Japanese names?
Imagine calling Haiku as Pai Ju (Mandarin).
People would loose their minds.
But somehow it's okay to do it with Chinese.
Zen Buddhism is a Japanese derivation of the Chinese school Chan, because of the popularity of Zen in the West we tend to know them by their Japanese names. For example in England we would call one of the Christian Gospels The Book of John, in the Ancient Greek text from which western versions of the Gospels derive they use the name Ioannis instead of John, in Hebrew the name Yochanan, that's quite different also!
I'm not saying it's ok or not ok, but it is what most cultures tend to do across the world and includes the use of many names we take for granted in the English language.
Dominic from the The Zen Gateway