The Ryzen 9800X3D is Wild…
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- The Zen 5 X3D CPUs including the 9800X3D & 9950X3D have big potential.
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The Ryzen 9800X3D is Wild… Zen 5 X3D Specs & Release Date
AMD is rumored to be releasing their 9800X3D, 9950X3D, and 9900X3D CPUs much sooner than expected, and they may also be bringing larger performance gains as well. Some are even suggesting the 9950X3D and 9900X3D will house 3D VCache on both CCDs allowing for much better performance and fixing scheduling issues.
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Need a 9950X3D with a single CCD, now that would be insane
@@MrPete1985 it will have double but they will put the 3d v cache on both which is most likely the case
Why?
Yeah I don’t get why either the 9800 games better the 9900 for workload is already out
@@contenez7097 because 8 is a better configuration than 6+6
@@contenez7097 8/8 is better for gaming than 6/8+6/8 but for workloads it's better
I bought a 7800x3d just in case the 9800x3d is too expensive and not that much better, I can always resell and buy 9800x3d since the 7800x3d will eventually be completely sold out and no longer produced.
@@naegleriafowleri2230 no one buys used cpus.
send it back dude, this 9800x3d will be usable for like 5 years.
@@MrRovoLova except is new in a box, I haven't even received it yet lol I don't plan to open it until the 9800x3d comes out. I'm not in a rush to build a computer, already have an older one, just waiting to see if is worth selling and upgrading to 9800x3d, if not then I keep it
@@IvanGarcia-sj5bc wut the 7800x3d will still be one of the top CPUs for gaming for years to come
@@MrRovoLova Yes, they do, used cpus sale like hot-cakes for $30-40 less than purchase price
why there is music over your voice.. hard to concentrate
Moronic "influencer" meta
Side effect of ADHD
Price will be WILD TOO. Just because..
Sadly no competition = no price limit. Just as NVIDIA with 5090... If there's no one to stop crazy prices people will have to pay for it or get nothing.
1k for it if the current trash processor is almost 700
Remember recently people buy out 7800x3d at MSRP😂 they have waited for two years, and lost the faith two months before 9800x3d available
I paid like 500€ for it last year. Still no regrets.
I paid $320 for it and I can sell it used for $450 😂, you chode.
@@herodes6200 What? I paid for it a year ago for $350 on sale. Great deal, great CPU.
I want single ccd 12 core 3d vcache SKU, I'm ready to buy it and drop it in place of my 7600
For work orientated applications we need bigger L2 cache and then everyone would benefit..
If it's only a gaming CPU then L4 should be used
1:04 wait there is no 16% uplift
Not for gaming, but for productivity. I think x3d needs to become standard now
Games? Sure. Plenty of benchmarks do show more IPC than games. Which is why people are waiting on X3D to see if that fixes shit or if it doesn't.
I can't wait for R9 9950x3D and RTX 5090 to my new PC build 😱
@@UrbiOfficial chill man leave some fps for us
@@kunduraci30 performance jump from i9-12900KF & RTX 3070 Ti 8GB.
@@UrbiOfficial I'm inpatient on doing a jump like that. Built 6950xt and 7600x last year. I'll have to wait for around the Nivida 6000 or 7000 series for that.
Says the millionaire.
Good luck getting a 5090 🤣
This dude literally contradicts himself from video to video or its just FAKE NEWS.. You WONT see 9000 3d chips till 2025
it will prob come before 2025 but yea ur right he contradicts himself a lot its the fakes tech channel of them all, he was showcasing and made videos of rtx 5090 like year ago its coming its coming, rearely I even open up this but I see it hasnt change
People have talked about ways to save Zen5 so much now I'm ready to just sit it out for Zen6.
But hey on the off chance 9800X3D isn't the same or worse than 7800X3D then maybe I'll get one.
They need to open up the other infinity fabric lanes they have on epyc but do it on desktop. Double the bandwidth plus 3d cache
Not sure how they will achieve those clocks without heat problems, even if they somehow thinned out the vcache. Hopefully we get some more info before or near arrow lake launch.
AMD needs to save this generation of CPU’s, I don’t think will be $500 but closer to 400-430
If people are already buying 7800x3d for $400-500, then they will buy the 9800x3d for more.
😂😂 $400 he says. Bahahah pfft yea right. It’s gonna be close to if not $100 more than the 7800x3d. Why tf do u think AMD is taking them off the market. Oh man ur so naive lol
@@robbay8610 people did buy it now there is no more more to buy emety stocks only 9800x3d to get soon
7800X3D is around 430-450 for about a month now, it's obvious they are keeping those prices up on purpose - 9800X3D probably 499$ if not more
I’m sure it will be like $500
The 7800x3d is $530
For the best ever gaming cpu? $500 isn't the worst.🤷♂️
@@MightyWalrus155and I believe that's out of stock from what I've heard from other RUclipsrs
I just ended up getting a 7700x because I'm light on cash
@MightyWalrus155
If you only want to use it mainly for Gaming, well even working with it would still be good, you might consider am 7600 non X or even a 7500f. Brutal Gaming Power while really yeah cheap.
I'm on 5800x3d and game in 4k. Only thing I feel I'm missing out on is hardcore flight sims. The new thing is pretty shiny, though.
Ehh, there are actually other use cases than flight sims. I upgraded from the regular 5800x to 7800x3d last year. Biggest difference for me are two types of gaming applications: High-End Emulation, such as Nintendo Switch with demanding titles like Tears of the Kingdom, as well as very-high FPS gameplay for fast-paced Boomer Shooters or 3d indie games.
Case in point, for Switch titles, the 7800x3d was able to boost my lowest FPS range (worst case scenario in few parts of the game) in ToTK from around 35-40 FPS to basically 55-60FPS, so that's a nice around 30%+ uplift. For many boomer shooters that have more basic graphics but are insanely fast-paced, I like to play these on my OLED ultrawide -- 5120x1440 monitor that runs at 240Hz. In many of these games, my FPS went up from having lows and drops in the 170 to 180 range in many titles, to basically being locked at 240FPS and capable of going even higher once swapping out to the 7800x3d. Examples include GZDoom, Selaco, Ion Fury, Neon White, Prodeus, Nightmare Reaper, and many others.
There are many 3D indie titles where this is the case as well, so it's not just for pointless benchmarks of games running at 1080p and low settings --- if you have a very high refresh rate monitor like this, there are definite benefits. For 4K, on my actual OLED TV, the benefits are negligible here I'd say though, as the older CPUs have no issue pushing well over 120FPS. The benefits don't really show unless trying to push some games well over 200, and as far as I know, there are few if any 4K TVs that can do more than say 175Hz or so, with the majority being TVs that cap out at 120.
4:50 SRAM cache cells themselves are limited when it comes to using smaller nodes, they don't scale good. However as we are talking about uniform circuitry, you can apply other forms of optimizations, which are not (or only) available for mixed circuitry like in CCDs, which includes circuitry with opposing strategies for optimizations.
I am in a wait and see type of situation, my 7800x3d is treating me nicely, but you can never have too much power, i will wait for the whole lineup to come out and the intel offering and all the price wars to settle down, then we can make a clear eyed decision, right now it's all speculative
better get a 5090... I guess in most GPU bound games the difference between a 7800/9800X3D is going to be VERY SMALL
I think this is baseless hype. So far we have nothing but a random dude leaking some made up benchmarks. I'd be very surprised if zen5x3d were more 7-8% faster than the previous gen. Hope I'm wrong though.
still rumors, it may not true. this is just to hype up the crowd or some trollers wanting some attention
No this is just to keep utubers going that entire life depends on pumping out useless content
Exactly, this guy literately flips from video to video, you wont see x3d till 2025
Another issue is that if they only release the 9800x3d now but they added the 3d cache on the extra ccd of the 9900 and 9950, they should actually be better than the 9800 for gaming this time around so I'd wait for the higher end chips, so i hope the give us that info when they announce the 9800 release
I don't know man 25% faster considered to be really good it sounds like team red trying to do damage control after the poor launch of the 9000 series I'd like both teams to succeed but I really don't see any reason for somebody on the 7000 series to upgrade to a measly 25% heck even people on the 5000 series I would say wait now for people that's on the 3000 series or lower go ahead it's time considering the 7000 series 7800X3D is out of stock
You should already know that you should take anything with a grain of salt.
No sh**? LMAO. You people are spoiled, back in the day with Intel we were getting 3% faster processors and the top of the line were quad-cores. This processor is for people with Zen 2 and Zen 3 as it should be obvious LOL
Nah he just has 0 clue what he’s talking about. It’s all fake and baseless speculation he’s using to try to make zen 5 x3d beat intel. There is 0 evidence to anything he’s saying can even have this type of performance gain, especially given how insanely underwhelming and terribly performing zen 5 has been so far in comparison to 7000 x3d CPU’s. Maximum level hope & cope here.
I bought a 7800X3D on amazon today if anyone is interested.
@@godnamedtay people just seem to magically forget that 5800x3d was faster than 7700x before ipc and clock speed became a bigger factor in modern titles 3 years removed from the initial launch of x3d, the amount of cpu heavy title since then has revealed that cache is king but not if the rest of the chip holds it back, the new branch fix has put a 7700x ahead in many modern titles if you disregard the spread of the results as x3d has better lows
Just picked up a 7600x3d. Might go up to a 9800x3d or 9950x3d when they come out. Just really depends on how things go with this 7600.
Yup... I think it's finally time to put my old 5700g Rig to sleep. 9800X3D, 32GB DDR5, keeping my 3070 Ti for a few more years! But man... it's a great time to be an enthusiast.
Grab a 5700x3d. It'll drop in and it's phenomenal
@@brianii5809 Fun fact. Did that already! Turns out the Colorful Gaming Frozen V14 X570 board I own hates the 5700x3D. Dropped it in and it was crazy unstable. So I performed a clean install of Win 11.... same exact issue. Blue screens, video issues, shut downs... just unusable.
So I checked Colorful's site again, maybe there is a BIOS update. Nope... last one was 2 years ago that stated support for the 5800X3D. So I assumed the 5700X3D should work.
So... I figure... might as well upgrade to AM5 at this point. Granted... buying an AM4 board is cheaper.
Guess I'm just looking for a reason to upgrade ;) But yes... originally I'm with you. Was just going to rock the X3D chip for a few more years and move the 5700g to my server. It's dual core athlon is finally showing it's age.
if you decide to upgrade to zen 5 anyways good luck i hope it won't disappoint you however it will be "a little bit" more steeper in price but hopefully you will enjoy your 9800X3D when it comes out.
@@brianii5809 Fun fact! I did try that but the board I own wouldn't accept it. Colorful Gaming Frozen V14 x570 wouldn't run the 5700X3D well at all. Random crashes, blue screens, shut downs....was unusable basically.
So I checked Colorful's site for new BIOS update and the last one was 2 years ago which I had already installed. Since the board stated 5800X3D compatibility I figured the 5700X3D should do just fine. Nope. Even after a clean install I had the same issues. So either my CPU is defective or my motherboard hates this chip.
So this is another reason to upgrade to AM5 anyway. Though it would be cheaper to get another AM4 board for testing so I might just do that before throwing in the towel.
@@gamingcomputers7485 I have a 5700X3D but couldn't get it to work in my current motherboard. Maybe I will order another board for testing. Thanks.... hopefully I can find some decent deals on it after launch.
9800X3D definitely isn't coming out this month.. no bios updates and reviewers haven't heard anything about a release from AMD..
where to eaven buy 7800x3d it sold out everywhere and no restock suply
@@frallorfrallor3410It pops up on Amazon every few days
It's getting announced on Thursday
@@Joshda039 where this info come from?
@@BigAndTattooed their mind lol
How can it be better than the 7800X3D when the 9800X is basically the 7800X except in fringe workloads?
It has much better single core performance, which along with the 3d cache is what matters for games. So I definitely predict a noticeable upgrade. But is it worth upgrading over my 7800x3d.. fk no
The initial Zen 5 rumors were the same, everyone went excited, then disappointed 😂
It will be the same this time around lol
I think AMD shouldve waited for Core ultra to come out, make adjustments to X3d and or Zen5 and then Release X3d as a complete and Total refresh to compete with Intel's new lineup, then Make a whole new Pricing lineup structure to further stay competitive incase Intel's Core ultra rebrand is good...
In other words, AMD seems a little waay too confident to be doing this, and we wont know what core ultra will be like until it comes out.
@@disclaimer4211 “Make adjustments”? It’s not that simple!
😂 Im sure you know what you’re talking about.
I work in Semiconductors for 29 years, so have a little experience.
If you don't have the 4090 or getting the 5090/5080, I am pretty confident the 9800x3d will be useless.
I don't know where you're getting 96MB L3 for the 9800. Those numbers are absurd. The 9950X3D is only supposed to have 64 L3 and the 9800 is supposed to have 32. You're mixing up L3 cache and v-cache figures.
Chance of 9600x3d being around $250-$300 ?
Just bought the Amd Ryzen 7 7800x3D at my MicroCenter today for $429 but got a $25 off coupon. Building my 4070 Ti Super all white build. So exited 🙂
Drove a hour away lol to buy it before it sells out 😭 they said they sell out fast
Thats a lot of yapping...tldr pls
I’m re-considering GeForce now for gaming with high end equipment.
5800x3d here for me is enough good
5800x3d gang
Someone said lets put a 3d cache on a 3d cache
I have a 5800x3d and 4090 on my gaming rig. I was worried about the 5800x3d not being able to keep up with the 4090 but then I saw that the 4090 was the actual bottleneck at 4K in Cyberpunk 2077. I'm happy for now, I'll probably get around to getting a 9800x3d & rtx 5090 eventually once they are out and the supply & prices stabilize.
cpu doesnt matter if you play 4k. 5800x3d, 7800x, 9800x they are gonna have the same fps.
U would need about double the performance of a 5090 to play cyberpunk at decent framesrates at 4k also 1% lows should never dip below 60 frames bare minumum and I dunno bout u but when my eye that can’t see 100 frames dips to 60 frames it seems noticable
Also I dunno bout u but when playing cyberpunk all I can do is stare at the benchmark numbers the game is a compete eye sore I can’t even really tell the difference between 1080p 4k and even ray tracing isn’t even that diffeeent looking games like crisis and car cry were way more interesting for the heavyest load game benchmark , and I’m sorry the idea of benchmarking on unoptimized trash games like pub or Microsoft flight simulator just seems dumb
It doesn't matter at 4k@120hz, but it does matter if you say want to play at 5120x1400@240hz. About the same number of pixels, but much higher refresh rate. In older games, boomer shooters, and indie titles, the difference between the 5800x and the 7800x3d is many games dropping or capping at 170-190 FPS, while the 7800x3d can play them locked at 240FPS no sweat.
That has been my experience since upgrading last year. But yeah, at 4k120 in AAA titles, the 4090 is often the limiting factor moreso than the CPU so Zen3 vs 4 vs 5 won't matter much.
That said, the 4090 interestingly enough actually leaves a ton of performance on the table even at 4K in many games, that even the 7800x3d can't satiate. This is especially obvious in any titles where you see that the 4090 and 4080 are benchmarking within 10% performance of each other when it should really be 50%, these games are CPU limited even with the 7800x3d not being able to keep up with the 4090 by supplying it adequate frames. You'll also see the 4090 only top out at say 70 to 80% GPU usage in these games. The problem is though, that to push these AAA games higher than the 100-120FPS or so they get with the 4090, we'll need to wait another 3 or 4 CPU generations to have something fast enough to fully satiate the 4090 -- Zen 8 or similar. And this problem of the CPU not keeping up with the GPU in AAA games, is only going to get much worse with the 5090 and later GPUs.
It's really an issue with shoddy optimization by part of the devs, with them tying lots of things like NPC interactions and AI, movement, and event scripting to the framerate of the game when they really should be decoupled -- there's no need for an NPC to update it's location 120 times per second, 60 is plenty, but when this is tied to the framerate itself it easily becomes the bottleneck. Devs have little incentive to fix this, since their primary target is most often consoles, consoles which mind you, can barely hit 30FPS in most titles these days and rarely run games above 1440p while using shoddy FSR 1.0 upscaling that looks like hot garbage.
25 percent increase from 7950x3d to 9950x3d is extremely unreasonable! 😅 I'll be happy if it is 10 percent better to be honest given how poor the 9950x performed!
It's all windows/driver issues that he forget to mention are the result of abysmal performance. Blame microsoft for continuing to update and duct tape features onto the bloated pile of steaming shit that is Windows 11.
9000-series gets a MASSIVE performance uplift just be downgrading to Windows 10. For even more performance, these reviewers should really throw in a benchmark or 2 on Linux to show the actual raw performance numbers minus Windows bullshit overhead and shit optimization running 500+ services just to sit there and masturbate you with ads while pretending to be scanning for malware using half your memory and CPU cores.
would you still have frame dips on the 9950x3d if a game switched witch ccd it was using? or do they share the cache between ccds?
Its gotta be at least 15% better than 7800x3d for me to buy. But theres no way it will be 25%
If it’s not 25% faster than 7800x3d then Intel takes the crown in a month.
@@Felale I would be surprised if intel can beat 7800X3D across the board :D
@@Felale All evidence and leaks point to 15thgen Intel being very underwhelming
It will be 200 dollars too expensive at every price category.
That thing probably runs 🥵 hot
I go for amd, i personally dont like intel
AMD better hurry up with zen 5 x3d cause zen 4 x3d is nowhere to be found, theyve killed the supply of it.... i wanted to buy a new cpu and its impossible to find a 7800X3D... and AMD hasnt announced anything officially yet, its just stupid
I am currently building a AMD system, what CPU should I get, I stream games so would need to be an overall type chip, don't want to wait till next year for my PC to be finished. I have the x870 Nova.
As of right now just get a 9900 sure u won’t be getting up to wat 20% better framerates depending on the game but ur pc will be able to handle multicore applications like twice as fast and handle more multitasking
I'm thinking about getting that board 😮
Got my aurus 870xE already and 6400 cl30 ram cant wait😇
Intel Raptor core power for frequency problems were solved by Franechasers 75 days ago Conner maybe a bit more and Build Zoid so many permutations of memory OC those who knew what he was talking about for high frequency trading and Scatter Bencher summed it all up on his own and all existing data. Bryan and TCY was the first to notice and the solution was back to Cometand that's what Bryan does flip salvage and finds a solution on the salvage choices. Framechasers saw the issue about the same time Bryan did and was the first to go to solution and solve it. Actual overclocking addressed a specific aspect that was memory OC and Scatter Bencher then summed it up on an evolved validation method. Where were u Conner? Reporting, mimicking repeater even with some okay analysis does not pay the bills. mb
I wish I could afford to upgrade from my 5600/6600xt build.
I bet AMD is lying again about the Zen5 X3d chip performance like they did at the Zen 5 launch. Fool me once, shame on me and so on.
AMD is not lying, Windows 11 is what made the performance shit. Just installing Win10 and you'll see massive boost in performance on the 9000-series, and the actual 15% faster than 7000-series in benchmarks. Or install linux, and it's even better, but that doesn't help most people for gaming/working unfortunately.
I imagine there would be no gain at 4K since it's completely GPU bound?
There would be gain at overall fps in 4K resolutions but only minimal. However, 0.1%s and 1% would be improved more.
This comparison video covers from 9900k to 13900k with 4090 at 4K gaming. Just a few games have some boost from the newer architecture.
ruclips.net/video/ySrnQ8ei7hg/видео.htmlsi=exn8bIhfG1d-gSO4
Just ignore the benchmarks for 12th gen as they are inaccurate in that video but the remainder is very accurate.
not every game gets GPU bound at 4K, but most do... as @usernh24 mentions, mostly 0.1/1% will get that uplift
@@sms8717 Interesting...
ruclips.net/video/G5uHZ7_j8yU/видео.htmlsi=JuO0cfzos3-w7ILB
Probably some slight gains at 4k, in the fair number of games that aren't well optimized. Many are and will see little to no benefit.
That said, the 4090 interestingly enough actually leaves a ton of performance on the table even at 4K in quite a few games, that even the 7800x3d can't satiate. This is especially obvious in any titles where you see that the 4090 and 4080 are benchmarking within 10% performance of each other when it should really be 50%, these games are CPU limited even with the 7800x3d not being able to keep up with the 4090 by supplying it adequate frames. You'll also see the 4090 only top out at say 70 to 80% GPU usage in these games. The problem is though, that to push these AAA games higher than the 100-120FPS or so they get with the 4090, we'll need to wait another 3 or 4 CPU generations to have something fast enough to fully satiate the 4090 -- Zen 8 or similar. And this problem of the CPU not keeping up with the GPU in AAA games, is only going to get much worse with the 5090 and later GPUs.
It's really an issue with shoddy optimization by part of the devs, with them tying lots of things like NPC interactions and AI, movement, and event scripting to the framerate of the game when they really should be decoupled -- there's no need for an NPC to update it's location 120 times per second, 60 is plenty, but when this is tied to the framerate itself it easily becomes the bottleneck. Devs have little incentive to fix this, since their primary target is most often consoles, consoles which mind you, can barely hit 30FPS in most titles these days and rarely run games above 1440p while using shoddy FSR 1.0 upscaling that looks like hot garbage.
A lot of these AAA games though are already hitting 120FPS today locked at 4K, so most likely you won't notice unless you're running a 175Hz+ 4k monitor, at which point, the 4090 isn't going to be able to hit those targets without turning down graphics settings a fair bit anyways so may be a moot point, but the benefit to indie titles and boomer shooters may be readily apparent.
i guess I will wait for ryzen 9000. i want the 9950x3d. i have a 5600x right now. it is not economical for me to buy more ram.
Very nice.
I think its at the point where they have this awesome tech and should go all in on it and just stop making the non 3D
Might switch from Intel and go 9950x3d and 5090
@@Grenzo_ I'm in amd right now and I'd stay with Intel if I was you
@@downsouth1678 stay intel as in go 285k?
More Internet rumours that will turn out to be lies ! That's the best this channel can manage.
Where's your proof it's launching early ? AMD hasn't revealed the launch date so how can it now be releasing early ?
I'll be glad when you gamers get these damn x3d chips so they can stop freaking crying 😅😅😅😅😅
The fabric is what I think the issue is it needs to be wider which takes up more die space unfortunately
It’s like DDR4 speeds
hopefully the release of 9800x3d will bring down the price of 7800x3d (not that I could afford one but still would be nice to see)
Pretty sure theyre not making the 7800x3D anymore, or so a rumor i heard confirms it
as always but expect the unexpected since we can't really know because of a lot of nonsense that is going around the world with this multi billion dollar corporations.
Nope, price has been going up because they stopped making it, stock is low, and it's still the fastest gaming CPU on the planet. I'd expect the price to continue to increase, perhaps hitting near $600 until the moment the 9800x3d comes out.
Best time to buy was exactly 1 year ago, when several vendors including Amazong and Newegg briefly had it for $350 for a week or so. That's when I bought mine.
it's to bad that we still don't have Consumer grade motherboards to go along with these 9000 series CPU's I aint paying for no X870 board most like me go with B850's...as Joker from Harley Quinn once said "where's my god *amn electric car Bruce" well AMD where's my god *amn verity B850 motherboards...to top it off no Micro-ATX/ITX ones this time around either even for a X variant.
amd in my country price not really good
I can't wait for intel battlemage gpu
I wonder if it will have all its bugs taken care of.
This made me laugh. Well played
oh boy, here goes another hype train. xD
It'll be interesting to see how it benchmarks out of the gate. I'm personally waiting for Intel 285k for my build. I'll be curious to see if down the road Intel "copies" X3D and start boosting the size of their own cache. I know Gen 15 is already getting a fairly significant cache bump from what the leaks have shown. I wonder how it'll stack up against AMD this generation for gaming.
I really think AMD wont be able to compete this time. Intel moved from 10nm to 3nm. That is huge. Even if they just use raptor cove it would beat any zen by far. Intel is gona dominate.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Was gonna finally upgrade my 4790k but I'm not spending 500 bucks for a x3d gaming CPU. Looks like my 4790k have to hold me through an extra few months to next thanksgiving
how is that still alive? I upgraded a customer from 7th gen to a 5800x because it was cheap and the bench on a 7600kf was pretty painful
@@elysian3623 I don't OC, and do regular maintenance. Finally found a game this year that needed me to upgrade. X4. First i planned on getting the 14700KF with an RX 7800XT. Well we all know how the raptor lake turn out. Than I was like ok i'll get the 7800 x3d with the RX 7900GRE or maybe the 7900xt if I can find one sub 700 dollars, I'm gonna use the rig for a while so it's worth spending an little extra. Now the 7800 x3d is like 500+ lolol and people say the 9800 x3d is gonna be at least 500+. At this point I might just repaste my gtx 1080 and 4790k for 40 bucks this thanksgiving and wait until nextyear. No way i'm gonna join whales in spending 500+ on full price MSRP on launch for a cpu. You know all the whales is gonna buy out all the 9800 x3d stock out drive the price to like 600+. 400-450 is max of what i'm willing to tolerate.
@@elysian3623 No OC and regular maintence. I guess Intel and AMD just really don't want my money this thanks giving. Instead of spending 1800 dollars on the rest of my new rig I guess i'm gonna be spending 40 dollars instead and repasting my 4790k and 1080. Kind of sad because I already have the power-supply, aio, case, and ssd already. Was hoping to splurge a little on the CPU and GPU. Who thought both intel AND AMD will fuck up so royally this time around.
How does this compared to arrow lake
They really don’t want Intel to sweep the top of the charts.
Excellent review. Furthermore, the things for ZEN 5 will get only better with the future optimizations so we can expect the same or better results.
And by future optimizations, we mean AMD forcing Microsoft to fix their shitty OS to actually run correctly with these new CPUs and not be a big pile of steaming shit
I'm sure there will be an onslaught of negative RUclips content on the Zen 5 X3D, regardless of how it performs. Zen 5 has a nice uplift on linux and compute intensive Windows work. To be fair, Intel chips also see more of an uplift on linux and pure compute loads. We seem to be hitting a limit of Windows message processing that affects both Intel and AMD.
Am I a snob and a shill for the framerate gods for upgrading from a 7800x3d to 9800x3d just so I can get some higher 1% lows? Wrong answers only.
Comparison to Arrow Lake was total BS. For example Arrow Lake Wattage at extreme is 295W from the horses mouth. It is also predicted that the jump on performance is huge. We are talking +150% over anything AMD can master and that becomes evident just from Wattage. Wattage is performance. CPU vs GPU no difference. 450W for 4090 or 600W for 5090. Same as 295W for 285KS vs 180W (edit 170W) for 9950X3D. There is 115W (edit 125W) difference and anyone that understands anything it means raw performance. And we all know how good TSMC silicon is. It is the best you can get.
My prediction is if Arrow Lake is announced at 10th and launched 24th October we won't see any of these X3D silicon launched. Obsolete already. Only reason I see for the X870 board is the 5.0 PCI direct to the CPU for Battlemage. It is about cutting losses.
Edit.
Specification 9950X3D
Cores 16
Threads 32
L3 Cache 192MB (expected)
Boost Clock Up to 5.8 GHz (expected)
TDP 170W (expected)
(source COMPUTERCITY September 26, 2024)
lool inteltard hovens are performance loooll
From the wattage alone it's performance? WTF are you talking about? All the last gens of Intel CPUs have consistently had more than double the wattage of AMD in the real-world while barely keeping up neck in neck with performance. That didn't make them faster, just wildly inefficient and outdated.
Also, as an owner of a 4090, I can attest that increasing the wattage is massively diminishing returns. The difference between the card running at 450W vs 500W or 600W is 10%, and then 1-2%. So no, wattage has jack shit to do with performance in many cases especially once you're close to the silicon limit.
Intel fanboi much?
I hope you enjoyed this video as much as I did
AMD sucks
Intel sucks more
why u ignore win11 , after 24h2 and power plan to higher wattage, theres way more performance