From DRILLS to SKILLS: teaching how to corner!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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When I really got into mountain bike racing back in the early 2000s, I knew it’d be key to understand how to corner fast. Trying to imitate how the motocross guys would train, I ended up doing lots and lots of cornering drills, usually on slippery surfaces, focusing on a technique that was repeatable, predictable, and fast. I’ve got a strong BMX background, so I figured, “Why not turn corners into a chance to pump the bike as well?” I can’t say that I have the “best” technique, as I’ve definitely seen a few other cornering styles that are just as valid, but this style has worked awesome for me over the years!
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As a bigger fella myself, great to see such participant in video👊🏼🚵🏽
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
From your videos I learned how to lean the heck out of my bike; and why; and why point the belly button to the exit of the turn. And not look at the minutiae of the turn, just focus on the exit or I'll hit exactly what I'm trying not to hit. 👍
I do follow Lee McCormack's advice to always, always, be centered on the bike; I do not lean back even to pump the bike( I lose traction on the front if I do that).
Lee's the GOAT. Good advice.
Great video! One huge thing hurting them is they aren't looking down the trail, especially Dustin. You can actually see them lift their head at the exit of the corner to look down the trail. I'd bet that's most of the reason Dustin kept riding off the outside of the turn.
Came here from The Loam Ranger's cornering video. Great advice in this video - thanks Jeff!
I've found that if you are leaned over and weighting the tires properly, even if you do loose some traction, you tend to drift more controllably and once you get used to the feeling and learn to trust the bike.... That drift is FUN!!
This is super helpful, great to see you getting out there with other riders with different experience and ability
Thanks Clarinda! I know it's not a standard "do this, here's an example" tutorial, but hopefully watching Dustin and Danica is helpful to see where they are improving!
This is awesome! I would like more demo about “pumping”, but perhaps the others parts are more important.
Dustin's got pretty good moves!
It was real cool to see how after practicing that one tight left corner a bunch of times when they got to the slalom both of them were really good at the left turns but nowhere near as confident on the right turns. Was so clear how even that short amount of practice made a huge difference.
Great video! Coming from a lot of years of racing Motocross where weighting the front in corners is almost always a must, I would have never thought to pull back in the Apex. You can clearly see it working
Hey Don, the first parts of the turn (braking hard before entry, leaning forwards to initiate the turn) are very similar, then since you can't pour on throttle and feather the clutch, that rearwards pump is how you can drive your bicycle through the turn. Oh, and I never use my front brake to hook into ruts on a MTB, either. In fact I literally think to myself "no front brake" in most corners! There are a bunch of different and equally valid cornering styles, so just practice some drills and find what works for you and your body type!
DUDE! This is so so good Jeff. I realize what I do now when I make the bike rocket out of turns. I ride heavy on the front through most sections of trail, but in corners I shift back after the apex and it rockets me out on the inside. Never knew how to explain it until you did such a tremendous job in describing it. You made me want to practice some turns here in Prescott, AZ. Now that the monsoon rain came, it’s all hero dirt out there too. Perfect time to use the extra confidence to see how far I can push it on the side knobs!
-Nick 😃👍
Thanks for the super nice note, Nick! I'd love to link up in AZ with ya this winter! We'll be in Sedona a whole bunch starting in November.
Jeff Kendall-Weed yeah man, that sounds great. I am currently on Level 2 of COVID isolation in order to help my mom through her chemotherapy that will last for the rest of 2020, so I am trying to ride solo and keep extra distance from people in an effort to prevent getting her sick since her immune system is super weak right now. Would absolutely love to ride alongside of you out here in the Dells of Prescott, AZ or Sedona whenever it’s possible. Thanks for the reply my friend!
-Nick 😃👍
Thank you! This just brought my cornering up to the next level. Never heard my tires rip corners like that, Wow!
I'm going to watch this one multiple times. Really great video showing us how to improve cornering which for me is the best way to make a trail feel more flowing and connected.
Hey shreddy, here are a few more "flow" tips too: ruclips.net/video/nucG1gurWd4/видео.html
Jeff Kendall-Weed Right on Jeff. Thanks so much for all the great content you upload.
Thank You Jeff, this is helpful for people trying to improve their skills, not so entertaining for skilled riders but you have plenty of those rides for them to watch. Also your insight is so awesome to break it down for everyone. Thanks so much!
Thanks Barrett, glad you found it helpful!
hey jeff, thank you so much for making this, it was super helpful!!! i was practicing out on the trails today, never realized how much difference getting behind the seat would make. the turns felt smoother and like i could really push my bike through with my legs. still a long way to go but really grateful for your tips! and, to echo other folks' comments, it was incredibly helpful to see you coaching some other riders. when you ride you make it look way too easy! :)
Yes, more instructional vids. Its hard to find truly well explained techniques.
Great video it's a super rad approach to cornering 😮 Danica Fife rules🤘
Thanks Tom!
Nice!! I'll be practicing these techniques on my next ride. Thank you for helping us all to be better riders!
Awesome video Jeff - thank you!
I was sceptical about getting back, low & pulling through the berm, but I couldn’t believe what a difference it makes 😮
Increase in speed & control is phenomenal.
Keep up the great work!
Your positivity is inspiring.
Why doesn’t getting back cause your front tire to wash out though??
I feel like I have learned most of these techniques separately but always struggled to put it all together consistently. I've been in races where I've performed well in some stages and crap in the next. One day I'm close to the elites and the next I'm miles away from the winners of my category.
But this video and others you have made just show the importance of patience and trusting in the technique instead of trying to force things. There is so much to do right in every corner if you forget about the basics and just rush, then you can't physically go fast.
Great video. Getting closer to the elites consistently thanks to videos from guys like you.
Glad the vid helped, D!
The reason why you don't have to lean the bike over as much in a berm is that the g forces are strong enough to push your center of gravity over the contact patch of the tire, so the less g force, the more you have to hang off the outside of the bike. Its just like the harder you brake the farther back you have to lean in order to keep weight on the wheels
Totally Ethan! Thanks!
Yeahhhh, more instruction from JKW! More drills and skills, please!
Thanks! I've got a whole bunch of tutorials here:
My 3 favorite skills drills: www.patreon.com/posts/if-i-could-only-38809964
How to manual: www.patreon.com/posts/how-to-manual-37684861
Cutty: www.patreon.com/posts/36579859
Manual a berm: www.patreon.com/posts/35496772
How to ride in Sedona: www.patreon.com/posts/34436065
Switchbacks: www.patreon.com/posts/3-ways-to-33345804
Nosewheelie: www.patreon.com/posts/32742504
Bump jump: www.patreon.com/posts/31881231
Trials basics for trail riders: www.patreon.com/posts/31145344
Tight berms: www.patreon.com/posts/30389457
Aggressive braking: www.patreon.com/posts/29579507
Confidence for mountain biking: www.patreon.com/posts/28817411
Cornering: www.patreon.com/posts/27981205
Flowing/pumping down the trail: www.patreon.com/posts/27288868
Stoppie through turns: www.patreon.com/posts/26296762
Technical climbing: www.patreon.com/posts/25234847
Boost jumps: www.patreon.com/posts/24161821
Bunnyhop: www.patreon.com/posts/23396959
Utilizing the wheelie on the trail: www.patreon.com/posts/23017910
How to wheelie: www.patreon.com/posts/21879606
Great video and so glad you broke down how you pump the corners! Other videos mention it, but don't actually explain how to do it. 😊
Looks pretty awesome! Saw some good turns in there. Great instruction
Danica was ripping!
Hit the trail yesterday after watching the video and added the techniques you've described for cornering. Immediate impacts in my MTB game. Thanks for all you do and producing great content.
Brilliant video Jeff!
It's the first time I heard about pulling back the handlebars, thanks Jeff!
Jeff, thanks for your hard work....It shows in your production. Really appreciate your lessons Buddy.....
Super helpful and awesome video. Loved that you had regular folks practicing these skills.
That was a great session. More please! I hear you talk about pulling back on the bars and having your weight on the back tire but I still don't really understand how you are doing that. Perhaps another video showing how you develop a feeling for the timing on when to start pulling back on the bars. Great group for your video.
Yes! This is the best cornering video. It’s seems it’s the cornering that is the key to all speed. :) Everything I’ve watched people say get you weight forward. And that wasn’t natural or fast for me. I noticed that when I would lean back I got around the corner faster but thought I was doing it wrong. Thank you for the video and clearing up my misunderstanding. Can’t wait for my next ride.
Cheers Michael! There are a bunch of different ways to corner, and honestly, I don't think forewards/back/centered is that big of a deal. Getting low on the bike is more important. I love it when I can pup a corner well, so this is how I've ended up cornering most often though!
Great lesson Jeff! Thanks again for the tips. Great video too. I can't wait to do more of these drills at home.
Thanks for coming, was great to ride with you!
Very good video Jeff; now you just need to make one for jumping, and how to attack drops, LOL 😂. No seriously, love the part of the video sectioning on the trail. Nailed it! 🤘😎
Ha! I'm actually not excited to do a general jumping or drops video. I feel like those would be more beginner oriented, and I'm not at all comfortable with instructing true beginners. It was sooooo long ago that I was learning this for the first time that I can't really remember that feeling! I did do a video on how to boost a jump, that's probably the closest I'll get: How to boost jumps: www.patreon.com/posts/24161821
Great vid. Totally makes sense.
Great info and awesome students! I never thought about starting out forward and finishing the pump farther back but if JKW says so...make it so! His POVs have unreal lean and when It looks fast on GoPro you KNOW it’s fast. Thanks for this👊🏻
I rewatch this video to help me with my turns 🤙🏾💪🏾 this is awesome
I like when I see us big guys out here doing things 💪🏾🤘🏾🤙🏾🚴🏾♂️👊🏾. Nice video 🤘🏾
nailed it! haha dustin at 15:14
Best cornering tutorials on the net!
Fantastic video! Love seeing the progression, you can see how even slight shifts in how you move the bike under you translate into a much more comfortable looking turn. I always find the hardest part and weakness in my cornering is trusting the tyre to hook up when leaning, more so when it's dusty. 👍🏼
Thanks IBC!
Wow shes looking really good, learns fast I can’t wait to try it.
Danica is a ripper! She has GREAT style on the bike.
Watching this already made me feel like an expert lol. And then reality bites. I wish you're here in NY/NJ to do that tutorial hehe.
Hi, this was very helpful! All in the practice now.
TOTALLY! Consistent practice is critical!
Cornering with Confidence is HARD. Any tips on cornering on loose over hard (aka kitty litter)???
Hey Masher, this is the technique I found specifically for loose over hard pack. I practiced primarily in baseball diamond infields in CA with their hard pack with gravel "fines", which was the most slippery surface I could find. In this video we used a gravel road, as that's pretty challenging compared to plain dirt. Seems that this style works well in most conditions. If it's super slick, you'll have to be more precise with your pump, but it's doable!
this was awesome.
Thanks!
Thanks Jeff!!!
Thanks for watching, Tony!
Great vid. Some slow mo shots to see how you are supposed to shift your weight and body position during the turn would be great. Also, the text needs to be on the screen about 3x longer in order to be read.
Thanks Daniel! I have a much better cornering tutorial here: Cornering: www.patreon.com/posts/27981205
Really helpful stuff, thanks. IMO, smooth fast cornering is the single most important MTB skill. As a relatively new rider, the key insight for me was to use the dropper all the time. This may seem obvious to more experienced riders, but when you're just starting it's hard to understand that getting the seat out of the way and getting lower and really leaning the bike over is hugely helpful in railing a corner fast. Where I still struggle a bit is how to properly weight the bars so that I don't wash out the front end but not put so much weight on the bars that I'm struggling to turn. It's a fine balance. Practice and progression, that's the ticket.
Great footage Jeff glad to see you have trust in the Trust.
This was great! That explanation you did in the beginning just before they started drills was gold.
I’ve also found that pumping through a turn and coming out with my weight back helps me get through tighter and faster. I think it helps with confidence too, since I feel like I’m in a strong position on the exit.
Thanks Dennis! Man, it probably would have been a better public facing vid to just run with an explanation with a couple examples, but I wanted to show how much these guys improved! Agreed about weight back- that's why I'm doing a wheelie or pedaling out of so many turns!
@@JeffKendallWeed im always scared of washing out the front tire if i move my weight back while cornering. interesting technique
Jeff Kendall-Weed I really liked that you included them. When you have other people you can address specific issues that may not arise otherwise. And guaranteed, and problems they have, thousands of others have too.
Nicely done Jeff! Something I highly need to practice myself & excited to see some progression after watching this.
Thanks Focal! LOTS of practice is key!!!
Dude, been wanting to ask you to make a cornering video! Awesome
Thanks Kez! The quasi-tutorial stuff I've posted publicly here is more vloggy and BTS, but the actual tutorial vids are more traditional "instruction" type. Feel free to check these out!
My 3 favorite skills drills: www.patreon.com/posts/if-i-could-only-38809964
How to manual: www.patreon.com/posts/how-to-manual-37684861
Cutty: www.patreon.com/posts/36579859
Manual a berm: www.patreon.com/posts/35496772
How to ride in Sedona: www.patreon.com/posts/34436065
Switchbacks: www.patreon.com/posts/3-ways-to-33345804
Nosewheelie: www.patreon.com/posts/32742504
Bump jump: www.patreon.com/posts/31881231
Trials basics for trail riders: www.patreon.com/posts/31145344
Tight berms: www.patreon.com/posts/30389457
Aggressive braking: www.patreon.com/posts/29579507
Confidence for mountain biking: www.patreon.com/posts/28817411
Cornering: www.patreon.com/posts/27981205
Flowing/pumping down the trail: www.patreon.com/posts/27288868
Stoppie through turns: www.patreon.com/posts/26296762
Technical climbing: www.patreon.com/posts/25234847
Boost jumps: www.patreon.com/posts/24161821
Bunnyhop: www.patreon.com/posts/23396959
Utilizing the wheelie on the trail: www.patreon.com/posts/23017910
How to wheelie: www.patreon.com/posts/21879606
@@JeffKendallWeed thanks for the links!
very informative! i learned a lot just from watching. would be awesome to get a lesson from you one day. gonna work in cornering tomororow!
Thanks Steve! There are a bunch of ways to corner a bike, too- set up some repeatable drills until you can find the way that works for you! The hardest part is really just staying motivated!
The drone shots are a great idea, nice!
Wow awesome video great job 👍😎🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Good video. Add this type ie a tutorial and mix with your ride videos. I like this format where you critique and provide advice. But what made this video good is both of your guests had different habits and cornering techniques to develop.
I live an hour away from Bellingham and would love to be a student in your videos. I’m always looking for ways to improve.
I learned a lot from this video! Thanks!
Hey Jeff, great video! You have such a unique cornering style, it always looks like you’ve got most of your weight in the rear tire, why doesn’t you front tire lose grip? I’ve always thought you needed to be front tire biased on a corner to not lose grip.
It's go to see u helping the average rider great job
Thanks Tom! A bunch of Patrons said it was great to watch someone else run through the drills/tutorial, so figured I'd try it again! Cheers!
Great video man ! Some of my fave you-tubers in here. Going to try and practice this ! Keep it up
Thanks Luis! Stay at it- practice is everything!
Good coach Jeff ;)
Thanks Guillaume!
I've been riding with Dustin a lot lately! You and I have a few friends in common but I've never met you. We should ride sometime!
I would try to add that it the lowering of the outside leg has less to do with the speed of the corner but the aperture of the corner. Bermed corneing at 15 mph I typically don't put my outside foot down. The lowering of my outside foot has more to do with trying to stabilize my drifting in the corner if necessary....
You technique is the Bob Hannah motocross cornering method. It's wicked fast!
Nice!
Such a great video!
Watching this from a hotel in Scott’s valley as my house in Bonny doon is most likely burning. :( hope if you have family in Santa Cruz they are safe Jeff.
OH shucks, I'm so sorry to hear that!!! Yes, my fam is OK (for now), we are working on plan Bs at the moment though!
Prayers go out to you and everyone, Im in the salinas valley, mt. toro has been raging since sunday. Smoke is really really bad, stay safe anyone in the burning areas..
@@MTB831 Oh wow! I had no idea Toro was burning too! Hopefully Pipeline can keep those nice Oak trees!
@@JeffKendallWeed its more the land behind toro park, so the land just south of toro is burning southward towards Gonzales..
Good stuff Jeff!
Ciao Enrico! Not the most exciting of videos, but hopefully it's helpful for a lot of people!
Great stuff!
Hey Jeff, where does the weight on the front tire come from with your style of shifting backwards/ pumping the bike?
It's weird because it also feels more natural to me to pull back a bit on the handlebar at the end of a corner, but it's the first time I see a pro rider saying it's not a bad thing. I'll try to apply this technique more instead of trying to correct it by pushing the front end to get grip.
Nit, there are a bunch of different ways to corner. This is the style that works for me with my body type. Look at Greg Minnaar vs Sam Hill vs Wyn, they all have completely different styles. Just keep practicing and keep note of what works and doesn't, and you'll find what's best for you!
Thats the problem for me is most of these skill videos are for full suspension bikes and I ride a hardtail and it is just a really different ride . I dont have a problem feathering the brakes into a turn if coming in a bit faster than what the bike can handle especially if its a trail your not familiar with and dont want to come in extra slow before the turn but you do have to know your brakes really well and have a light touch
Loved it
Dude! Thanks for showing this technique..I’ve been wanting to see how you did this for awhile. honestly it looks like a magic trick on camera most of the time when you do it. It was great to see Danica & Dustin learning this..if you hold another seminar/lesson on this I will go for sure. Which trails are you guys practicing on for reference? Thanks Jeff!
I realize I'm 11 months late here, but nobody answered your question - They're on "Tough Love" at Galbraith.
Thanks Mick 🤘
well explained :)
Good stuff!
Thanks Rob!
Hm I always thought you wanted to have your weight equally distributed (over the BB) and not removing weight from the front by leaning back (because of front tire washouts)? Had a rough front tire washout, which I'm sure was me not realizing I was on my front brake, but also had me thinking I was not having my weight and general positioning correct (and possibly a bit too much speed, hence the brake).
This is awesome, and will be helpful once i get some practice bin, but i do have a question, if you don't mind!
That turn you sessioned at the 9min mark, any tips if that were to be a rocky turn (goofball size & smaller) instead of dirtpack?
Helpful tips in this video. But, for clarification, by putting weight on the "outside" foot do you mean the foot that's leaning into the corner, or the other foot? Thanks.
Anyway, great lesson man!
Can't fault JKW for how he rides and corners. However, this video makes me worried about not putting enough weight into the bars. I'll have to give this a try, cause maybe I'm wrong. Can't ride due to the unhealthy smoke right now though.
That’s what I thought , if you lean back that much there is not much weight on the front and I would worry that my front washes out , have to try it .
I am guessing you’re from California? I pray for you guys !
@@sr20drft Hey thanks! I'm pretty safe where I live, but the fires rage on and the smoke and poor air quality means I'm stuck indoors for even a while longer. The amount of destruction is disheartening, but 2020 am I right?!?
I think that there is a disconect between how he describes it and how he actually rides. I think he is using the pump to weight the front wheel hard in the middle of the corner. The pull up at the end is just a side effect of that and shouldn't really be practiced IMHO.
Cool vid!
Thank you Tony!
Would love to have such a coach :)
Hahaha thanks Matt!
What is meant with pumping? Pushing the futon bards down when going into the curve?
Have you just been looking at my personal RUclips search history? I've been hitting parking lots for an hour most days before I start my ride! I ALWAYS need help on cornering. I love the pumping approach, I really feel that when I'm riding pump tracks with huge berms but I've never really applied it to flat stuff, definitely something to add to the arsenal.
Just out of curiosity, any tips for flat, chunky, line-deflecting, rooty nightmare corners? Or does the same kind of apply (with just a bit more careful line selection)?
Hey G, thanks for the note! I read a good article on LeeLikesBikes.com a decade ago about corners with obstacles in them. Point was to simply corner as normal, and hit the obstacles like they were being hit straight on. It seems to work most of the time, but I'll slow down and pump less when it gets really rough!
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks so much man, I really appreciate how generous you are with your time and knowledge, sub for life! hahaha
We use trail braking on motorbikes - shortening the bike using the front brake - will this work for tighter mtb corners?
do you ever have any problems with front grip with your cornering style?
Nice coaching
How do you keep grip on the front wheel if you lean back so much?
what bike were you using in this video? what size and how tall are ya?
What the heck is going on with your fork? I've never seen one like that. Thanks for the vid.
What if you don't have a dropper post?
Rad!
I feel like this advice of dropping your outside pedal in turns is a HUGE over-think. I don't ever see EWS guys doing it tbh.... Any time I've intentionally tried it, it feels like trying to write with my left hand....
But Jeff says it has more use in slower turns...I would also say in off camber turns as well, but yeah most of the DH or enduro racers use it as little as possible, since with feet leveled you have more power to pump the turn and you have less chances to mass things up since it is more simple move. Unlike Jeff says, most of the racers know how to pump the flat turns, I think it is one of the basics of cornering skills.
wouldn't it make more sense to put your weight on the front wheel and hold it until the end of the turn instead of leaning back across the turn?
Not if you want to exit the turn faster than you enter it. And really risk washing out should your lean angle be off at all.
I was unrepentant about braking into the apex. Since then I'm looking for acceleration in the turn. Your pump at I presume is at the apex involves "pulling" the bars. Is this the same pull as with the manual? Pull hard enough and manual out?
PS at carparks and trailheads waiting for the group, I do that exaggerated corner low center of mass and hard lean and everyone thinks I'm a lunatic.
Hey Julian, if you watch more of my riding vids you'll probably see that I manual out of corners all the time. Or I'll do a small power wheelie. This is how I connect turns into other trail features, kind of making for more "flow". I did a public video about how to flow down the trail, and mention exactly this in that vid.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks
I have a hard enough time weighting the front properly, manualing just exacerbates the issue,. I have trouble getting the front wheel up, when I do it's overpowered and I loop out/brake too much slamming it down. But still working on it.
So I'm thinking the one missing bit is looking farther ahead to see out of the corner while your still in it
Nope John, you shouldn't be looking farther ahead during corners- you should be looking farther ahead during the whole dang bike ride! hahaha!
started practicing that...
my heart goes fkn nuts when both wheels start sliding at the same time and my body follows.
its f*cking scary.. but also fun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
im getting definitely better at it, but im still not really sure about the pump you are talking about and if your body positioning moves slightly more to the back instead staying centered?
if i start to move it back, my front gets lighter and starts more to skid. little halp? :3
wish learn more