Hiya mate, another great thing to get a nick out is a piece of lightweight thermalite block, the great softer ones with the lines on the block. It’s softer so a bit more forgiving.. if I get a nick in my big Marshall town flexi that I polish up with I have a piece of this block in my bucket , rub it then a piece of wet , wet and dry black sandpaper to really smooth up sorts it every time. Tried all the things, I have been a plasterer 37 years, self employed 29.. good video.. 👍 gaz.
I've still got my trusty 12" and 14" permashape Marshall Town after 15 years going strong. Have got a few Ox speedskim sizes and an old ragni which I use for bonding/rendering. Love my Marshall Town. Keep up the good work.
thanks for your reply. i will carry on. i believe i can do it, plus you have inspired me. your the only one on here who is open and honest about all the pros and cons to the job. please keep it up as it helps us newbies.
14" carbon Nela for me, it has become my trowel of choice. I have got a decent Kraft, MT and Nela stainless all worn in for skimming but I always go for the Carbon these days. As for getting Knicks out of trowels, get yourself some small India stones mate of various grades and use them with the WD to dress any knicks from your blade. When you've got them out I put a piece of scotchbrite pad on a folded up trowel so it gives it some sponginess to adapt to the blade shape and then wet it and rub it up and down on that to give the blade a good tidy up. It brings it up lovely Hope this helps buddy. 👍
Great tips there thank you 👍 I have always rubbed them out over a concrete block or old council slab something like that then clean back with sandpaper & a few s+c jobs normally bring the blade back
I’ve just got a big dink in my Marshall gold 14 very upsetting , I had a black Marshall town for years but lost its shape but still leaves the best finish out of all the trowelsi have , I’ve started using my rose gold refina for finishing but I find using the gold for the whole process then one flexi for the last can’t go wrong , nothing beats a Marshall town
Great idea giving him a marshalltown make sure you dock his wages for it! Lol currently I’m on permashape carbon mt the difference to stainless is it’s a stronger trowel seems more balanced. Best wishes nick
quick tip mate if you aint heard this way of working but i go over it with the speedskim then use the plaziflex when its damp then a nela super flex then dry one always handy trying new ways bud
I personally dont like to plaster with one trowel... I lay on amd 1st flatten with a nela Premier as the blade is lovely and flat, them switch to my ox which is worn lovely.... I dont like laying on with a worn in trowel, yes it doesn't leave lines but doesn't put it on as flat as myy nela...
Complete beginner but have just purchased the below.. Marshalltown Permashape gold stainless 14" Nela Black edition 14" Ox Speedskim SF 900mm Refina plaziflex 1.0mm 14"
I've not tried the nela black but I would advise to master your MT right through the set if your just starting out then introduce the other tools once you've mastered your MT 👍
I've just started a plastering course at 49. Am I too late in life. Honesty will be appreciated and not frowned upon. Family and friends tell me I'm too old to be starting a new career path, especially at my age and one that is constant graft. Is it too late for me to get in the experience I'll need to be able to work at a quality standard. Brill videos, especially all the info about paperwork side of business.
Hi Matty, There's 2 types of spread the site spreads & domestic. Some do a mixture of the 2. Generally speaking site work can offer a longer run of work & can take the hassle & admin out of the job but it may include travelling a little way out to new plots, the money isn't the best because you are ultimately a cost to the developer & they will likely offer the work on a meterage basis or day rate which ties you down. My advice would be steer clear of this path & leave the meter munching to the young spreads who can earn the money back through hard fast meters. Imo meter chasing causes rsi problems, tennis elbow knocking up big sets / multiple sets per day I've done it in my 20's & never again. Starting a career in plastering later on in life imo is doable providing you have a half decent level of fitness & focus on domestic work which although is still tough it is far less demanding than site work & the pay is good once you have established your reputation. Also you can target work in your local area & build up your name. You will need a few years minimum behind the trowel in a number of situations to develop the necessary skills. Many of the skills required are learnable through repetition & practice. People that have experience in carpentry or building can transfer skills across into plastering so this will give them a head start even just being good with your hands will give you an edge. Providing you are fit & well & are willing to dedicate the next few years to the trade I would say you can become a competent plasterer for sure. The working life of the domestic plasterer is tough but rewarding & the hours are very good you meet new people each week & never in one spot very long, the summer time makes for a nice life for the plasterer with winter having its challenges. I still love the game & enjoy my work & so I am very bias. Times get tough when work is thin on the ground or you get injured so there's much to think about.. If you haven't already, Join the Facebook group & please post your question on the group we have so many top spreads now many of which will offer their advice also 👍 facebook.com/groups/422884412302728/?ref=share_group_link
@@troweltalk2719 subscribe to Alex Morley's channel he is breaking in a carbon Nela and one lucky subscriber gets to win it. Brilliant channel with lots of great info
Thank's for the mention 👍, Young lad will build up His strength on the stainless steel, ( he'll thank U in the long run) Have him buy a New MT trowel for rendering, they break in fast on outside work, ( Never forget MY First Trowel 🥲) it will make a grand skimmer. Back when I started, I got good advice from retired spread, buy 3 trowels, give the trowels to a ground worker/concrete man, he'll break them in, no time, he get's a free Trowel, U get back 2 💵 makers as Back Up. I mentioned on another of your recent vid's, have your apprentice buy a TACTIX #320390 tool box for his trowels, pick up a few bump stop strip's, ( car doors ) cut to size, Great for stopping contact damage. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ For the Channel, Your a Fountain of Information, Keep UP the Great Work
@@troweltalk2719 No worries Man, Your a breath of fresh Air, Plastering is a macho culture, it's Good to see the next generation climbing up the ladder, I've worked for some savage's on the way up the slippery pole, it's not all cream, good to wart's and all 👍
Hiya mate, another great thing to get a nick out is a piece of lightweight thermalite block, the great softer ones with the lines on the block. It’s softer so a bit more forgiving.. if I get a nick in my big Marshall town flexi that I polish up with I have a piece of this block in my bucket , rub it then a piece of wet , wet and dry black sandpaper to really smooth up sorts it every time. Tried all the things, I have been a plasterer 37 years, self employed 29.. good video.. 👍 gaz.
I've still got my trusty 12" and 14" permashape Marshall Town after 15 years going strong. Have got a few Ox speedskim sizes and an old ragni which I use for bonding/rendering. Love my Marshall Town. Keep up the good work.
thanks for your reply. i will carry on. i believe i can do it, plus you have inspired me. your the only one on here who is open and honest about all the pros and cons to the job. please keep it up as it helps us newbies.
Thanks Matty & best of luck on your new life journey 👍
14" carbon Nela for me, it has become my trowel of choice. I have got a decent Kraft, MT and Nela stainless all worn in for skimming but I always go for the Carbon these days.
As for getting Knicks out of trowels, get yourself some small India stones mate of various grades and use them with the WD to dress any knicks from your blade. When you've got them out I put a piece of scotchbrite pad on a folded up trowel so it gives it some sponginess to adapt to the blade shape and then wet it and rub it up and down on that to give the blade a good tidy up. It brings it up lovely
Hope this helps buddy. 👍
Great tips there thank you 👍 I have always rubbed them out over a concrete block or old council slab something like that then clean back with sandpaper & a few s+c jobs normally bring the blade back
I’ve just got a big dink in my Marshall gold 14 very upsetting , I had a black Marshall town for years but lost its shape but still leaves the best finish out of all the trowelsi have , I’ve started using my rose gold refina for finishing but I find using the gold for the whole process then one flexi for the last can’t go wrong , nothing beats a Marshall town
Try this technique on the gold MT mate it works!
Great idea giving him a marshalltown make sure you dock his wages for it! Lol currently I’m on permashape carbon mt the difference to stainless is it’s a stronger trowel seems more balanced. Best wishes nick
14” marshalltown permashape for me! Can’t go wrong
i still have a tyzak 9 inch stainless from my time as apprentice just cant part with it even though its out of shape im sure it would still do the job
And trowel wise currently breaking in a nela carbon 13 inch and main setter is 12 year old 14 inch marshalltown carbon
quick tip mate if you aint heard this way of working but i go over it with the speedskim then use the plaziflex when its damp then a nela super flex then dry one always handy trying new ways bud
I agree pal always open to new ideas & techniques 👍
Marshalltown 14" Permashape for me!
I personally dont like to plaster with one trowel... I lay on amd 1st flatten with a nela Premier as the blade is lovely and flat, them switch to my ox which is worn lovely.... I dont like laying on with a worn in trowel, yes it doesn't leave lines but doesn't put it on as flat as myy nela...
I know what you mean about laying on with a worn trowel when I lay on with my 16" refina I can go flatter & neater
I got say I prefer Curry trowels but I still use my marshalll town trowels.
Complete beginner but have just purchased the below..
Marshalltown Permashape gold stainless 14"
Nela Black edition 14"
Ox Speedskim SF 900mm
Refina plaziflex 1.0mm 14"
I've not tried the nela black but I would advise to master your MT right through the set if your just starting out then introduce the other tools once you've mastered your MT 👍
@@troweltalk2719 Thanks for the advice, I'm going to jump in the deep end. Wish me luck.. I'll let you know how it goes lol
I've just started a plastering course at 49. Am I too late in life. Honesty will be appreciated and not frowned upon. Family and friends tell me I'm too old to be starting a new career path, especially at my age and one that is constant graft. Is it too late for me to get in the experience I'll need to be able to work at a quality standard. Brill videos, especially all the info about paperwork side of business.
Hi Matty,
There's 2 types of spread the site spreads & domestic. Some do a mixture of the 2. Generally speaking site work can offer a longer run of work & can take the hassle & admin out of the job but it may include travelling a little way out to new plots, the money isn't the best because you are ultimately a cost to the developer & they will likely offer the work on a meterage basis or day rate which ties you down. My advice would be steer clear of this path & leave the meter munching to the young spreads who can earn the money back through hard fast meters. Imo meter chasing causes rsi problems, tennis elbow knocking up big sets / multiple sets per day I've done it in my 20's & never again.
Starting a career in plastering later on in life imo is doable providing you have a half decent level of fitness & focus on domestic work which although is still tough it is far less demanding than site work & the pay is good once you have established your reputation. Also you can target work in your local area & build up your name.
You will need a few years minimum behind the trowel in a number of situations to develop the necessary skills. Many of the skills required are learnable through repetition & practice. People that have experience in carpentry or building can transfer skills across into plastering so this will give them a head start even just being good with your hands will give you an edge.
Providing you are fit & well & are willing to dedicate the next few years to the trade I would say you can become a competent plasterer for sure. The working life of the domestic plasterer is tough but rewarding & the hours are very good you meet new people each week & never in one spot very long, the summer time makes for a nice life for the plasterer with winter having its challenges. I still love the game & enjoy my work & so I am very bias. Times get tough when work is thin on the ground or you get injured so there's much to think about..
If you haven't already, Join the Facebook group & please post your question on the group we have so many top spreads now many of which will offer their advice also 👍
facebook.com/groups/422884412302728/?ref=share_group_link
My main trowl is a ragni
I’ve got a carbon mt, but the permashape trowels are amazing you can literally skim with them straight out of the box if you know your timings.
Bang on. Just take the corners out a little & they're ready to go
13 " marsh for me 👌
Still on stainless MT going for a carbon Nela but waiting to see if I win Alex Morley's 😆
Would be nice to get hold of a carbon nela , even nicer to get hold of a free one !
@@troweltalk2719 subscribe to Alex Morley's channel he is breaking in a carbon Nela and one lucky subscriber gets to win it. Brilliant channel with lots of great info
Buy yourself a diamond stone and a whet stone will get it much finer
Thank's for the mention 👍, Young lad will build up His strength on the stainless steel, ( he'll thank U in the long run) Have him buy a New MT trowel for rendering, they break in fast on outside work, ( Never forget MY First Trowel 🥲) it will make a grand skimmer. Back when I started, I got good advice from retired spread, buy 3 trowels, give the trowels to a ground worker/concrete man, he'll break them in, no time, he get's a free Trowel, U get back 2 💵 makers as Back Up. I mentioned on another of your recent vid's, have your apprentice buy a TACTIX #320390 tool box for his trowels, pick up a few bump stop strip's, ( car doors ) cut to size, Great for stopping contact damage. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ For the Channel, Your a Fountain of Information, Keep UP the Great Work
Thanks George really appreciate it 👍
@@troweltalk2719 No worries Man, Your a breath of fresh Air, Plastering is a macho culture, it's Good to see the next generation climbing up the ladder, I've worked for some savage's on the way up the slippery pole, it's not all cream, good to wart's and all 👍
14 inch carbon steel wooden handle best one iv had better grip as well broke In after a few jobs 👆👆
Marshaltown
20 years old you must never use it