Thank you so much for this video! I am a film composer and recently purchased an Uplift desk, which is solid wood. I was able to install the sliding keyboard tray, and am now making a how-to video for women, and will link back to your video as well, with your blessings. Very few women make how-to videos for anything involving a drill, so I'll let you know when it's done!
Of course I am so happy I was able to help you out! I’m quite a novice myself and this project was really born out of necessity as I had nowhere else to put my keyboard in my apartment. It may look daunting at first but it really isn’t as scary as it looks and I’m looking forward to seeing your video as well!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've looked for slider hardware like that EVERYWHERE and couldn't find what I wanted. I liked this video so much I went back and signed in just to "like" it and leave a comment, lol. Cheers, mate!
Very logical hack with the desk risers, wouldn't have thought of that myself but I have a Bisley filing cabinet waiting to become the desk riser it always dreamed of becoming! Very nice setup, clean and well hidden LEDs. Nice video.
You are so welcome! :) neither am I but I am really enjoying learning as well and having a convenient setup eliminates friction (and admittedly, excuses) to not sit down and play. Happy learning!
Hi my friends - musicians. Before you build such a kind of slider/tray, make sure you have enough space/height for legs. If not, you can use longer rails or two rails and to push the keyboard deeper. So for the processing job you can feet your legs under the table.
Nice video. Good solution. Question: how does the shelf with keyboard react to pretty strong, maybe even percussive playing/hammering the keys? Looks a bit wobbly/flimsey...
It was at first, but I added an angled galvanized steel support bracket that spans the entire length of the shelf, greatly increasing the support. I don’t play hard and pound the keys or anything since I am just learning, but the shelf has no issues with moving or shaking when I play. I hope the video helped you out!
Hey thanks for watching! So far for me it’s been perfectly stable with no buckling or sliding at all. I don’t play excessively hard, but from my own experiences thus far I’ve seen no issues with sliding or stability. Hope the video helped you out!
Thank you for watching! No shaking for me at least so far whenever I use it. I don’t play the keyboard violently either and it’s been very sturdy for me thus far.
U just inspired me To look for a STH similar to motorcycle lifters to replace your risers and get a desk with adjustable height! The problem is lift synchronization but maybe somebody already solved it
Great video! Do you know how heavy the keyboard is? I have a Yamaha CP4 Stage Piano and it's quite heavy. I am concerned something like this wouldn't support the weight.
Thanks so much for watching! The product listing lists it as 30 pounds. Alone I agree which is why I put a metal l bracket underneath for additional support. My desk is also solid wood. I’d never do this with laminate particleboard as that would probably pull right out.
Hey ! Thanks for the best piano drawer tutorial, i'm going to make my own ! my only worry is that the keyboard will be too heavy and that the screws will pull out eventually... How has it been holding up for you ?
Hey thanks for watching I appreciate it! Holding up just fine. Screws are still sturdy, which is why I was sure to use plenty of them for some peace of mind. I play the piano at least 3 times a week and have had no issues thus far with wobbling. Still as sturdy as when I built it!
This is great, was wondering how is this holding up? I'm going to make the exact same setup and it's gonna be screwing inside an ikea karbly. For some reason there's something extremely enerving about having my 38lbs digital piano floating because the desk is particle board. I'm probably going to do what you did but ad even more L brackets, but just curious if you've found this to this day if you still own this setup? Also your desk is 1 inch correct? kinda eyeballing it but i'd be willing to go get solid wood table top at a decent price i've found at homedepot if that is indeed 1" your using. For some reason I thought 3/4 screws would be a bit small for this kind of tray
Hey thanks for watching! I still use it today and it hasn’t budged since I installed it. My desk is solid wood but the shelf is particleboard. The l brackets provide plenty of support and I used several on each side spaced out to evenly support the weight. If anything I’d be more concerned about the particleboard shelf than the desk since my desk is solid wood. My desk is indeed one inch thick.
I really want to do this. Question, I'm going to buy a standing desk soon, and theyre not that cheap. reckon that i'd be able to do this on one of those? obviously dont wanna fuck anything up too much
Thanks for watching! If your tabletop isn’t solid hardwood then I’d probably not do it. I’ve seen lots of pictures and videos of people putting too much weight on top or hanging from a laminated tabletop and it coming apart.
Thanks for watching! It is the ikea hammarp solid oak countertop. I’m not sure if they still sell it, but solid oak countertops are available at lots more places now than when I bought this since Covid kinda opened the floodgates to DIY desks.
Hey thanks! It’s what I settled on because putting it on my desk I could hear all of my typing and clipping the boom arm to the desk got it in the way when I wanted to use that desk space for work/school etc so I went with this. Has been great so far.
Any issues with the tray sagging over time? since it's been 3 years now? I have an S88 and I am worried with the length of the tray and the weight of the keybed, And obviously playing the keyboard. Would you recommend maybe going the full 1-inch thickness? Or was the 1/2 inch fine?
Question. 66" x 35" under desk clear. Rectangle legs on either side. Keyboard 56"W 11.10" D 5" Tall. Weight 40.8 lbs. Need piano to be back towards the back of the desk, then pull box on slides to edge of the desk, slides in box extend out 12" so the piano can be played. Unable to get advice on the best sliders to use, meaning the under the desk part, pretty straight forward, however when it comes to pulling out another set of slides, they need to be able to handle the weight, not wobble up-down left-right. With the width being 56 wide, figuring out weight stress is touch. Could you offer any suggestions? I wonder if there is a way to not use an enclosed box, or other ways to make this project better? Thanks
Thank you for watching! Probably the most important aspect of the project is to be sure that the sliders are able to hold both the weight of the keyboard but also the shelf material you use. You probably wouldn’t need to attach the sliders or blocks of wood to the desk as many times as I did, but I wanted to be absolutely sure they wouldn’t loosen over time and so far I haven’t noticed any movement or loosening at all of the screws. As for the keyboard moving while playing, there are sliders that lock in place when pulled out, like mine do, that keep the shelf from sliding in and out during use. If you wanted the side fastening sliders instead of the top mounting like I used, those would definitely work too, but you’d want a longer block on each side to mount the sliders to.
@@TechedOff If u wanted to push the shelf back where the front of shelf is 25" back from the front edge, and when at the front side you needed to pull the shelf out 12" to lock and play --- would you use rails inside the under desk to get the front edge, and then with another set of rails telescope tje shelf out to play position to play? Nearly all seem to barely get the wide shelf barely under the desk, however with my knee, I need to be able to push the front, back under the desk until the front of box or shelf or both are 34" back. It is cooking my noodle. Any thoughts? Build a box that holds the shelf and keyboard until pulled to the desk edge and then use two more rails. By the way I will send a link to a genius who build something like this on a ship, I kid you not. He only uses high end stuff, very interesting read. His problem, on a ship the is no space to push it back except barely under. Hit me back if you can. Desperately trying to get this done. Appreciate the suggestions.
My concern is that will your arms be parallel to your typing keyboard with the keyboard underneath?Unless the keyboard is pushed in deeper. How have you felt using it ? Ergonomics is crucial to me
Thanks for watching! Mostly I have adjusted my chair to the proper height if need be to make my arms more comfortable to me. The desk is raised with spacers so my legs are able to fit underneath the table and keyboard comfortably. I have been comfortable so far using it. My only issue is my bed is directly behind my desk so I don’t have too much room to adjust my chair around as I play, but that’s a function of the size of my room rather than the desk itself. So far so good!
appreciate this vid and also the fact that you respond (and in detail) to your commenters! That said, I don't have a question. Watched your vid bc I have in mind a wall-mounted pneumatic "solution" that, so far as I can tell, is not available out of the box, and is not readily DIYable... so under the desk might work. Thank you for the vid!
The piano is 38 pounds and the shelf is a few on top of that, so not too far off from where you’d be. Main thing to be aware of is support. I have the 2x4s mounted at 4 different spots each with 2 screws at each spot. I haven’t seen any give so far with my setup at this point.
Now this is what I needed, my desk is a L-Shape desk that has a frame. So I just wouldn't be able to use a slider at all due to the frame blocking the path. My MIDI is also kinda THICC sooo yeah just not enough space. The whole solution using 2x4 that is 14 inches is perfect for me and should work well with my desk even though the wood for my desk is only .6 wide i think it should work.
what is your desktop made out of? im trying to do this same thing but only with my 49 key akai advance and I have an Ikea countertop that I “think” in veneer but its really solid. i had read that the core of those countertops is a really rough cardboard and Im wondering if it would hold it. I, too, need the real estate on my desk.
Hey thanks for watching! I hope the video was able to help you out. I did use a drill bit to drill pilot holes for each of the screws, and then I screwed the screws into the pilot holes with a drill afterwards to be sure the screws went in straight. Any more questions please ask!
Thank you for the great video. I'm thinking of installing and using the keyboard tray like this, but are you still using it well? I'm worried that the desk might be bent or damaged because it's too heavy. I'd appreciate it if you could reply!
Thanks so much for watching. I hope the video was able to help you out! Yes, I'm absolutely still using it and it's going strong even after since moving! If you like, you could always take a table leg and prop it up underneath the middle of the desk behind the keyboard as there is room. I haven't seen a need for that so far even after testing my own paranoia and taking a level along the desk just to check. Also remember that this is a solid wood desk and not veneered or particle board, so it's much stronger than most off the shelf desks.
Great work man!!! Can I ask how many inches or how long between the desk top to your piano? I am trying to do the same thing but don't want the piano be too low.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad it helped you out! I have about 1 inch remaining from the piano to the desktop. But the total from the shelf to the desktop is about 6 inches.
Hi, thanks so much for this video! Like many others here I'd love to create sth like this myself. I know the legroom question has come up before. And you solved that with the table risers. But it seems to me this way the table is really high (32"). If I raise my chair to meet the hight, my feet hardly still touch the ground, plus my knees would go up against the shelf again. (I'm 5' 8") Maybe I'm missing something. Would really be great to hear how this works out for you. Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad the video was able to help you out. As you said, yes the desk is a bit higher than is considered "typical" by most. Your keyboard and mouse are a tad higher than you'd be used to, but thankfully I've personally gotten used to it. I guess the "perfect" option would be a height adjustable desk, but then you lose the drawer space of the alex drawers. (which I absolutely love BTW)
These particular rails don't come out as far as some other tracks, but they are height adjustable. Most of the tracks that I found that extended farther had no way to adjust them vertically like these allow. A bit of a trade off was made on my part to get them to fit, but I noticed many of the higher end keyboards are much taller than the beginner ones. I wanted to leave myself room to upgrade in the future without having to remount the entire tray. There are probably ways to mount the longer extending tracks lower with longer boards etc., but stability might become an issue at that point. My keyboard extends far enough for me to expose the keys and the I/O but not the entire keyboard. I made that trade off but having less extension gives it more stability, especially while playing. Thanks for watching and I'm glad I was able to help you out!
Thanks so much for this video. I have a yamaha 88 keys collecting dust. I have it under my desk on a keyboard stand but I don't really play it much as it is a pain to keep trying to shift it out of a narrow place. But I think I will do what you did. My table top is the cheap IKEA crap but I would differently need a solid wood to handle my keyboard weight. Thanks for explain the mechanism. Questions, from the UK, I know you said the length was 14 inch, what was the hight and thickness of the wood?
I really appreciate you watching! The Thickness of the shelf is 7/8 inches and it is about 15 inches. Of course you could always use a thicker or slightly deeper shelf if you wanted to use something heavier than I did. If you have any more questions please ask! :)
Hi i am looking for to maybe do something like this. But i have a thinner keyboard so i dont need the log thing you put between the rail and the desk. But i have some questions. First of all whatt for desk are you using, is it ikea or something? and second is if this is in your way for your knees and legs or if it works. And third is if an ikea table like kalby which is 3.8cm thicc and the ground material is chipboard can hold a keyboard and the rail with just some screw or if its unstable.
Thank you so much for watching! My countertop is an ikea oak Hammarp. Not sure if they are still sold or not. Two ikea Alex drawers on the side. Hasn’t been in my way at all since I added the desk risers. It definitely was in the way before since there was a need for more clearance underneath with the keyboard below. I would definitely use solid wood and not veneered for this application. With the weight of the keyboard hanging underneath, that extra stability definitely helps.
Hi, thank you very much for the video! I was wondering how is the desk tray behaving through the test of time? I want to do something similar and since I don't find any prebuild desk tray that allows me to fit my wider midi controller I was wondering if your solution was durable and if you've had any issues with the piano's weight, with the desk curving or with the tray itself.
Hey thanks for watching that's a great question! With my specific solution, I have not yet had any issues with table bowing or the shelf loosening in any way. While my shelf is particleboard with some slight reinforcement, my tabletop is solid oak, and it has held up from the weight of the keyboard as well as me leaning on it daily. I use a Kawai es110 that weight about 38 pounds and I haven't yet had any issues with the shelf or piano. If you have any other questions, please ask!
Hello and thanks for watching! Yes it does, but only because I used the risers to offset the drop of the tray. Without the risers, there is no way I could fit my legs under there. If you have any other questions please ask!
How long is the countertop that you’re using? I was planning on using one that’s around 78” from IKEA with the two Alex drawers, my keyboard being 46” long idk if I’ll have enough space for it underneath
I was wondering what the size of your desk is. I’m looking to do something similar. Just starting out messing around with music production here and there. I still don’t know a lot regarding that but . I want to end up doing this. My setup is gaming / music production. I was planning on using michals drawer units which are about the same as the Alex drawers. I have 2 monitors and a pair of edifier 1850db and an older klipsch 10 sub. And your desk size looks pretty good although I think I’d need it to be a bit bigger. Anyways enough of my rambling. Any info helps, thanks!
Thanks very much for watching! It is 72 inches long on top of two Alex drawers from ikea with furniture legs used as risers. The desktop is solid oak ikea Hammarp. 24 inches deep I believe.
Hi there ! I'm looking to build a setup based on yours (really nice video, by the way), but I am wondering about the clearance space between your legs and the piano tray while you are using your keyboard + mouse. As I am pretty tall, I'm worried I might have to raise the desk a bit higher in order to fit my legs under the piano tray, but there is a limit to the height a computer chair can be lifted without getting uncomfortable behind the knees. May I ask you how much space you have left between your legs and the piano tray, and if it's not too personal, what is your height ? Thanks again for the video, and have a good day.
Hey thanks for watching! No worries there. I'm about 5'10" and I have about 2 inches when I'm sitting down between the top of my legs and the bottom of the piano drawer. The option of raising the desk higher is always there, however like you mentioned comfort can be a factor if it is raised too high. My chair is at the max height that it is able to rise, but I am also quite heavy so it sinks just a bit while I am sitting. While I don't have room to dance and jump underneath the desk, I am comfortable and am able to sit and game or do work without feeling uncomfortable. If you have any other questions please ask as I'm glad to help!
Thanks for watching and I hope the video helped you out! Actually it doesn't hurt my legroom at all because of the tabletop risers. Without raising the desktop up higher this setup definitely wouldn't work for me.
Hello and thanks for watching! It probably would, but my main concern would be using veneered wood instead of solid wood as it won’t provide as much support with a piano pulling down on it. I’d either pick up a solid wood tabletop from a Home Depot or Lowe’s since I don’t think ikea sells solid countertops anymore or use a veneered tabletop but add some extra reinforcement to keep it stable.
Thank you for watching! It is a good height for me, but I am also 5 10 and not the tallest guy. One thing I recommend is triple check your measurements before starting to be sure that your specs work for you.
Hey thanks for watching! It’s definitely a space saver and cheaper than a lot of other solutions too. It’s very nice to have the keyboard facing the computer ready to go and out of the way when it’s not in use. I hope it helped you out! :)
Thanks for watching! My current piano is about 17 kg and I have no problems there. I’m not sure about 32 but with some extra reinforcement or a tougher material for the shelf you might be ok.
Hey thanks for watching! I hope it helped you out with ideas/strategies with your own setup. The shelf that the piano is on is 54 inches, but of course you could cut it to whatever length you needed. My actual oak desktop is 8 feet long.
Hello and thanks for watching! Those are indeed Alex drawers on the sides. The tabletop is an ikea hammarp oak tabletop. I chose it because it’s solid oak and not veneer. Hardware stores like Home Depot and Lowe’s also sell these types of tabletops as well.
Can this system hold a midi keyboard that weighs above 20kg ? Also does the sliders have a lock system or does it make the tray slide back in when playing your digital piano ? Looking forward for your reply 🙂
Hey and thanks for watching! I'm glad to have helped you with your project. The slider product page on Amazon simply states that the weight capacity depends on the method that you use to mount the tracks to your surface. Obviously my method is plenty overkill by most standards. My piano is 38 pounds plus a couple of pounds for the shelf, and I've noticed zero movement, wobble, or loosening of the shelf or tracks from their mounting points. As long as you are not putting something really heavy like 50kg or so, you'd probably be OK. As for the locking system, yes! These tracks do lock in place when fully pulled out so that the keyboard does not slide back underneath your desk when playing. I was specifically worried about that when designing this and looked for tracks with that specific feature. Obviously you don't need to use the exact tracks that I did, as the dimensions of your keyboard may differ from mine. But I can say that the general design works great and I'd definitely recommend it to others. I appreciate your patience and I hope this response helped you out. If you have any other questions please ask!
@@TechedOff thank you for such a detailed response. Actually I am planning to get the studiologic Sl88 Grand which weighs around 20-21kg. But since you mentioned that this slider can take 50kg load then I guess 20kg wouldn't be a problem then. As for the dimensions, I already have the table made accordingly but I am just planning to upgrade the tray system like the way you set it up . Hoping everything works out :)
Does yours move around a lot? Mine has been fine so far. Yes you are definitely right that the longer the tracks extend the less support there is which is why I mounted my tracks as far forward as possible so I could extend them as little as possible while still having access.
Hello and thank you for watching! It absolutely can, as I have an 88 key with a bit of room to spare. I wouldn’t cut the shelf exactly to size though. I’d leave a couple of inches of extra space just in case.
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Thank you so much for this video! I am a film composer and recently purchased an Uplift desk, which is solid wood. I was able to install the sliding keyboard tray, and am now making a how-to video for women, and will link back to your video as well, with your blessings. Very few women make how-to videos for anything involving a drill, so I'll let you know when it's done!
Of course I am so happy I was able to help you out! I’m quite a novice myself and this project was really born out of necessity as I had nowhere else to put my keyboard in my apartment. It may look daunting at first but it really isn’t as scary as it looks and I’m looking forward to seeing your video as well!
Did you ever finish this video? Would love to follow your instructions as I am a complete beginner with a solid wood desk as well!
@@Fernandoism Yes, me too!! @Dominique Gagne
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've looked for slider hardware like that EVERYWHERE and couldn't find what I wanted. I liked this video so much I went back and signed in just to "like" it and leave a comment, lol. Cheers, mate!
Glad I could help! Thanks so much for watching and hope the video helps with your new setup.
Very logical hack with the desk risers, wouldn't have thought of that myself but I have a Bisley filing cabinet waiting to become the desk riser it always dreamed of becoming! Very nice setup, clean and well hidden LEDs. Nice video.
Thanks so much for watching. I'm glad I was able to help you out!
Thank you for showing us this in under 5 minutes
You are so welcome! I appreciate you watching and taking a look at my setup. I hope it gave you good ideas for your setup too!
Such a smart way to make a desk with the risers. 👏🏾
Hey thanks! Just doing the best I can. Hope it gave you some good ideas!
Best explained setup that I had seen in RUclips. Thank you very much.
I’m so happy to have helped you out! Comments like these are what keep me going! :)
This looks so good, Thanks for the tutorial I'm definitely doing this!
You are so welcome! I’m glad I was able to help you out. It’s still working great for me so far no complaints.
Thank you so much for posting this. I am going to give this a try. Not an aspiring musician but I certainly enjoy playing/learning the piano
You are so welcome! :) neither am I but I am really enjoying learning as well and having a convenient setup eliminates friction (and admittedly, excuses) to not sit down and play. Happy learning!
This was very helpful buddy,there are a lot of diy slider in youtube but most of them are for 61 keys controller,awesome job!thanks for sharing..
So happy I could help you out. Thanks so much for watching!
Hi my friends - musicians. Before you build such a kind of slider/tray, make sure you have enough space/height for legs.
If not, you can use longer rails or two rails and to push the keyboard deeper. So for the processing job you can feet your legs under the table.
Any videos resources on making my the keyboard deeper for space for my
Legs ?
One of those adjustable desks that move up and down would be perfect for this setup
You did an awesome job, I needed thisss!!
Glad I could help! Hope it helped you with your setup.
Nice video. Good solution. Question: how does the shelf with keyboard react to pretty strong, maybe even percussive playing/hammering the keys? Looks a bit wobbly/flimsey...
It was at first, but I added an angled galvanized steel support bracket that spans the entire length of the shelf, greatly increasing the support. I don’t play hard and pound the keys or anything since I am just learning, but the shelf has no issues with moving or shaking when I play. I hope the video helped you out!
@@TechedOff It certainly inspired me, as I am in the process of constructing a shelf myself. And good to hear some steel support will help!
@@TechedOff Good Idea with the angle Bar. So you have the angle bar screwed into the holes on the sliders running the length of the tray?
Well I really enjoyed this video.....LQQKS fantastic it works.👍
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Same to you! I hope the video was able to help you out and give you some nice ideas for your setup.
How is the stability while playing? Does it chair the desk at all? Does the keyboard move at all while playing?
Hey thanks for watching! So far for me it’s been perfectly stable with no buckling or sliding at all. I don’t play excessively hard, but from my own experiences thus far I’ve seen no issues with sliding or stability. Hope the video helped you out!
@@TechedOff thanks. I'm trying to upgrade my setup with this kind of exact thing. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the video! Do you feel any bouncing or shaking when playing the keyboard on the tray?
Thank you for watching! No shaking for me at least so far whenever I use it. I don’t play the keyboard violently either and it’s been very sturdy for me thus far.
U just inspired me To look for a STH similar to motorcycle lifters to replace your risers and get a desk with adjustable height! The problem is lift synchronization but maybe somebody already solved it
I’m happy I was able to help you out. Hope the setup comes together nicely!
Looks smooth!
Hey thanks! It’s been great for me thus far.
Great video! Do you know how heavy the keyboard is? I have a Yamaha CP4 Stage Piano and it's quite heavy. I am concerned something like this wouldn't support the weight.
Thanks so much for watching! The product listing lists it as 30 pounds. Alone I agree which is why I put a metal l bracket underneath for additional support. My desk is also solid wood. I’d never do this with laminate particleboard as that would probably pull right out.
Hey ! Thanks for the best piano drawer tutorial, i'm going to make my own ! my only worry is that the keyboard will be too heavy and that the screws will pull out eventually... How has it been holding up for you ?
Hey thanks for watching I appreciate it! Holding up just fine. Screws are still sturdy, which is why I was sure to use plenty of them for some peace of mind. I play the piano at least 3 times a week and have had no issues thus far with wobbling. Still as sturdy as when I built it!
Fantastic! I was about to ask exactly the same question 😊😊😊 awesome job!!!! ❤️❤️
What desk are you using
Thanks for watching! That is an IKEA Hammarp oak countertop on tow of two white Alex drawers.
This is great, was wondering how is this holding up? I'm going to make the exact same setup and it's gonna be screwing inside an ikea karbly. For some reason there's something extremely enerving about having my 38lbs digital piano floating because the desk is particle board. I'm probably going to do what you did but ad even more L brackets, but just curious if you've found this to this day if you still own this setup?
Also your desk is 1 inch correct? kinda eyeballing it but i'd be willing to go get solid wood table top at a decent price i've found at homedepot if that is indeed 1" your using. For some reason I thought 3/4 screws would be a bit small for this kind of tray
Hey thanks for watching! I still use it today and it hasn’t budged since I installed it. My desk is solid wood but the shelf is particleboard. The l brackets provide plenty of support and I used several on each side spaced out to evenly support the weight. If anything I’d be more concerned about the particleboard shelf than the desk since my desk is solid wood. My desk is indeed one inch thick.
I really want to do this. Question, I'm going to buy a standing desk soon, and theyre not that cheap. reckon that i'd be able to do this on one of those? obviously dont wanna fuck anything up too much
Thanks for watching! If your tabletop isn’t solid hardwood then I’d probably not do it. I’ve seen lots of pictures and videos of people putting too much weight on top or hanging from a laminated tabletop and it coming apart.
Nice work! Where did you get the table top?
Im trying to build something similar, but it's hard to know what kind of wood to use for the desk surface.
Thanks for watching!
It is the ikea hammarp solid oak countertop. I’m not sure if they still sell it, but solid oak countertops are available at lots more places now than when I bought this since Covid kinda opened the floodgates to DIY desks.
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Hey I’m just trying to help out! Glad I was able to give you a hand.
Nice wall mount for the mic 🎙!!
Hey thanks! It’s what I settled on because putting it on my desk I could hear all of my typing and clipping the boom arm to the desk got it in the way when I wanted to use that desk space for work/school etc so I went with this. Has been great so far.
Any issues with the tray sagging over time? since it's been 3 years now? I have an S88 and I am worried with the length of the tray and the weight of the keybed, And obviously playing the keyboard. Would you recommend maybe going the full 1-inch thickness? Or was the 1/2 inch fine?
Question. 66" x 35" under desk clear. Rectangle legs on either side.
Keyboard 56"W 11.10" D 5" Tall. Weight 40.8 lbs. Need piano to be back
towards the back of the desk, then pull box on slides to edge of the
desk, slides in box extend out 12" so the piano can be played. Unable to
get advice on the best sliders to use, meaning the under the desk part,
pretty straight forward, however when it comes to pulling out another
set of slides, they need to be able to handle the weight, not wobble
up-down left-right. With the width being 56 wide, figuring out weight
stress is touch. Could you offer any suggestions? I wonder if there is a
way to not use an enclosed box, or other ways to make this project
better? Thanks
Thank you for watching! Probably the most important aspect of the project is to be sure that the sliders are able to hold both the weight of the keyboard but also the shelf material you use. You probably wouldn’t need to attach the sliders or blocks of wood to the desk as many times as I did, but I wanted to be absolutely sure they wouldn’t loosen over time and so far I haven’t noticed any movement or loosening at all of the screws. As for the keyboard moving while playing, there are sliders that lock in place when pulled out, like mine do, that keep the shelf from sliding in and out during use. If you wanted the side fastening sliders instead of the top mounting like I used, those would definitely work too, but you’d want a longer block on each side to mount the sliders to.
@@TechedOff If u wanted to push the shelf back where the front of shelf is 25" back from the front edge, and when at the front side you needed to pull the shelf out 12" to lock and play --- would you use rails inside the under desk to get the front edge, and then with another set of rails telescope tje shelf out to play position to play? Nearly all seem to barely get the wide shelf barely under the desk, however with my knee, I need to be able to push the front, back under the desk until the front of box or shelf or both are 34" back. It is cooking my noodle. Any thoughts? Build a box that holds the shelf and keyboard until pulled to the desk edge and then use two more rails. By the way I will send a link to a genius who build something like this on a ship, I kid you not. He only uses high end stuff, very interesting read. His problem, on a ship the is no space to push it back except barely under. Hit me back if you can. Desperately trying to get this done. Appreciate the suggestions.
Thanks for the tutorial I just installed mine today.
You are welcome! I’m glad that it helped you out with your setup. Definitely a big space saver.
My concern is that will your arms be parallel to your typing keyboard with the keyboard underneath?Unless the keyboard is pushed in deeper. How have you felt using it ?
Ergonomics is crucial to me
Thanks for watching! Mostly I have adjusted my chair to the proper height if need be to make my arms more comfortable to me. The desk is raised with spacers so my legs are able to fit underneath the table and keyboard comfortably. I have been comfortable so far using it. My only issue is my bed is directly behind my desk so I don’t have too much room to adjust my chair around as I play, but that’s a function of the size of my room rather than the desk itself. So far so good!
@@TechedOff ok well as long as you can also adjust your computer monitor then I guess it can work, thanks
appreciate this vid and also the fact that you respond (and in detail) to your commenters! That said, I don't have a question. Watched your vid bc I have in mind a wall-mounted pneumatic "solution" that, so far as I can tell, is not available out of the box, and is not readily DIYable... so under the desk might work. Thank you for the vid!
You are so welcome! I’m so happy I was able to help you out! :)
Nice setup
Appreciate it! Unfortunately it’s only temporary until I buy a place so when that eventually happens I’ll be free to go all out etc.
@@TechedOff used this vid to build my slide out. Came out great
How much weight do you have on the tracks? I want to do this with my digital piano that weighs 42.5 lbs, not including the weight of the shelf.
The piano is 38 pounds and the shelf is a few on top of that, so not too far off from where you’d be. Main thing to be aware of is support. I have the 2x4s mounted at 4 different spots each with 2 screws at each spot. I haven’t seen any give so far with my setup at this point.
how's your leg space now with this setup? Are you knees clear or do they bump from time to time
Thanks for watching! Just fine! Although it would be tight without raising the desk some with some type of riser system.
Now this is what I needed, my desk is a L-Shape desk that has a frame. So I just wouldn't be able to use a slider at all due to the frame blocking the path. My MIDI is also kinda THICC sooo yeah just not enough space. The whole solution using 2x4 that is 14 inches is perfect for me and should work well with my desk even though the wood for my desk is only .6 wide i think it should work.
Yeah there was some trial and error with my setup. Hopefully this helps you out so you don't have to learn the way I did! :)
exactly what i was looking for. THANK YOU!
You are very welcome! I hope the video helped you out.
what is your desktop made out of? im trying to do this same thing but only with my 49 key akai advance and I have an Ikea countertop that I “think” in veneer but its really solid. i had read that the core of those countertops is a really rough cardboard and Im wondering if it would hold it. I, too, need the real estate on my desk.
My desktop is solid oak back from when ikea sold the solid wood hammarp version
Did you use a drill bit or just the actual screws to get the screws into the 2x4 as well as the bracket into the bottom of the desk?
Hey thanks for watching! I hope the video was able to help you out. I did use a drill bit to drill pilot holes for each of the screws, and then I screwed the screws into the pilot holes with a drill afterwards to be sure the screws went in straight. Any more questions please ask!
Thanks, I am going to do this too.
Hey thanks for watching. Hopefully I was able to help you out!
Thank you for the great video. I'm thinking of installing and using the keyboard tray like this, but are you still using it well?
I'm worried that the desk might be bent or damaged because it's too heavy.
I'd appreciate it if you could reply!
Thanks so much for watching. I hope the video was able to help you out! Yes, I'm absolutely still using it and it's going strong even after since moving! If you like, you could always take a table leg and prop it up underneath the middle of the desk behind the keyboard as there is room. I haven't seen a need for that so far even after testing my own paranoia and taking a level along the desk just to check. Also remember that this is a solid wood desk and not veneered or particle board, so it's much stronger than most off the shelf desks.
@@TechedOff Thank you very much for your reply.!!
Great work man!!! Can I ask how many inches or how long between the desk top to your piano? I am trying to do the same thing but don't want the piano be too low.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad it helped you out! I have about 1 inch remaining from the piano to the desktop. But the total from the shelf to the desktop is about 6 inches.
@@TechedOff Gotcha, thanks man!!
What are those boxes called? Link?
The drawers? They are called alex drawers fro Ikea.
Nice
Thanks for watching. I hope the video helped you out!
Good stuff, thanks playa
You are very welcome! I’m glad to hear the video helped you out.
Hi, what is you desk high with the risers ? Is it too high if you wanted to use it as a di ing table ?
Thanks for watching! The height with the risers is 32 inches. You could probably use it as a dining table, depending on how tall you are.
Very nice and super useful!
Hey thanks for watching! I hope this helped you out and gave some good ideas.
Hi, thanks so much for this video! Like many others here I'd love to create sth like this myself. I know the legroom question has come up before. And you solved that with the table risers. But it seems to me this way the table is really high (32"). If I raise my chair to meet the hight, my feet hardly still touch the ground, plus my knees would go up against the shelf again. (I'm 5' 8") Maybe I'm missing something. Would really be great to hear how this works out for you. Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad the video was able to help you out. As you said, yes the desk is a bit higher than is considered "typical" by most. Your keyboard and mouse are a tad higher than you'd be used to, but thankfully I've personally gotten used to it. I guess the "perfect" option would be a height adjustable desk, but then you lose the drawer space of the alex drawers. (which I absolutely love BTW)
I used this method and turned out great, only down side is my keyboard doesn’t come out all the way, any way these rails come out more?
These particular rails don't come out as far as some other tracks, but they are height adjustable. Most of the tracks that I found that extended farther had no way to adjust them vertically like these allow. A bit of a trade off was made on my part to get them to fit, but I noticed many of the higher end keyboards are much taller than the beginner ones. I wanted to leave myself room to upgrade in the future without having to remount the entire tray. There are probably ways to mount the longer extending tracks lower with longer boards etc., but stability might become an issue at that point. My keyboard extends far enough for me to expose the keys and the I/O but not the entire keyboard. I made that trade off but having less extension gives it more stability, especially while playing. Thanks for watching and I'm glad I was able to help you out!
Thanks so much for this video. I have a yamaha 88 keys collecting dust. I have it under my desk on a keyboard stand but I don't really play it much as it is a pain to keep trying to shift it out of a narrow place. But I think I will do what you did. My table top is the cheap IKEA crap but I would differently need a solid wood to handle my keyboard weight. Thanks for explain the mechanism. Questions, from the UK, I know you said the length was 14 inch, what was the hight and thickness of the wood?
I really appreciate you watching! The Thickness of the shelf is 7/8 inches and it is about 15 inches. Of course you could always use a thicker or slightly deeper shelf if you wanted to use something heavier than I did. If you have any more questions please ask! :)
Hi i am looking for to maybe do something like this. But i have a thinner keyboard so i dont need the log thing you put between the rail and the desk. But i have some questions. First of all whatt for desk are you using, is it ikea or something? and second is if this is in your way for your knees and legs or if it works. And third is if an ikea table like kalby which is 3.8cm thicc and the ground material is chipboard can hold a keyboard and the rail with just some screw or if its unstable.
Thank you so much for watching! My countertop is an ikea oak Hammarp. Not sure if they are still sold or not. Two ikea Alex drawers on the side. Hasn’t been in my way at all since I added the desk risers. It definitely was in the way before since there was a need for more clearance underneath with the keyboard below. I would definitely use solid wood and not veneered for this application. With the weight of the keyboard hanging underneath, that extra stability definitely helps.
Hi, thank you very much for the video! I was wondering how is the desk tray behaving through the test of time? I want to do something similar and since I don't find any prebuild desk tray that allows me to fit my wider midi controller I was wondering if your solution was durable and if you've had any issues with the piano's weight, with the desk curving or with the tray itself.
Hey thanks for watching that's a great question! With my specific solution, I have not yet had any issues with table bowing or the shelf loosening in any way. While my shelf is particleboard with some slight reinforcement, my tabletop is solid oak, and it has held up from the weight of the keyboard as well as me leaning on it daily. I use a Kawai es110 that weight about 38 pounds and I haven't yet had any issues with the shelf or piano. If you have any other questions, please ask!
@@TechedOff that's great, thank you very much! 🙌🏼
hey man, does this clear your knees when you sit at the desk?
Hello and thanks for watching! Yes it does, but only because I used the risers to offset the drop of the tray. Without the risers, there is no way I could fit my legs under there. If you have any other questions please ask!
@@TechedOff awesome, thanks for the reply man - appreciate it! Great video.
Can you tell me what is the height from the floor to the top of the keys? Also to the desk, if possible. Thanks
Floor to top of keys = 29.5 inches. Floor to top of desk = 32 inches. Thanks so much for watching! I hope I was able to help you out.
@@TechedOff Thanks
How long is the countertop that you’re using? I was planning on using one that’s around 78” from IKEA with the two Alex drawers, my keyboard being 46” long idk if I’ll have enough space for it underneath
98”
@@TechedOff thank you! I hope I have enough space to put my keyboard Under like you did with a 78” desk since I don’t have the space for a 98” 😂
This is dope. I'm thinking of doing something similar and was looking for someone who did it with an ikea hack as proof of concept!
Hey thanks! Yea I’m no expert by any means. I’m about as newbie as it gets. It is not nearly as hard to do as it looks. Glad the video helped you out!
Do you have a 61 or 88-key keyboard here? Thanks!
Hey thanks for watching! It’s an 88-key keyboard.
I was wondering what the size of your desk is. I’m looking to do something similar. Just starting out messing around with music production here and there. I still don’t know a lot regarding that but . I want to end up doing this. My setup is gaming / music production. I was planning on using michals drawer units which are about the same as the Alex drawers. I have 2 monitors and a pair of edifier 1850db and an older klipsch 10 sub. And your desk size looks pretty good although I think I’d need it to be a bit bigger. Anyways enough of my rambling. Any info helps, thanks!
Thanks very much for watching! It is 72 inches long on top of two Alex drawers from ikea with furniture legs used as risers. The desktop is solid oak ikea Hammarp. 24 inches deep I believe.
@@TechedOff alright. Thanks man. I might have to make something similar in the future.
Hi there !
I'm looking to build a setup based on yours (really nice video, by the way), but I am wondering about the clearance space between your legs and the piano tray while you are using your keyboard + mouse.
As I am pretty tall, I'm worried I might have to raise the desk a bit higher in order to fit my legs under the piano tray, but there is a limit to the height a computer chair can be lifted without getting uncomfortable behind the knees.
May I ask you how much space you have left between your legs and the piano tray, and if it's not too personal, what is your height ?
Thanks again for the video, and have a good day.
Hey thanks for watching! No worries there. I'm about 5'10" and I have about 2 inches when I'm sitting down between the top of my legs and the bottom of the piano drawer. The option of raising the desk higher is always there, however like you mentioned comfort can be a factor if it is raised too high. My chair is at the max height that it is able to rise, but I am also quite heavy so it sinks just a bit while I am sitting. While I don't have room to dance and jump underneath the desk, I am comfortable and am able to sit and game or do work without feeling uncomfortable. If you have any other questions please ask as I'm glad to help!
How tall is your desk when you bout it from the store
How long is your desk? 78” or 98”?
Thanks for watching! It’s 98”
How do u keep it from sliding in while using
Hi thanks for watching! The tracks lock in place when fully extended or when fully retracted.
how does this setup affect your legroom?
Thanks for watching and I hope the video helped you out! Actually it doesn't hurt my legroom at all because of the tabletop risers. Without raising the desktop up higher this setup definitely wouldn't work for me.
Nice work dude! Would this work with any ikea table top?
Hello and thanks for watching! It probably would, but my main concern would be using veneered wood instead of solid wood as it won’t provide as much support with a piano pulling down on it. I’d either pick up a solid wood tabletop from a Home Depot or Lowe’s since I don’t think ikea sells solid countertops anymore or use a veneered tabletop but add some extra reinforcement to keep it stable.
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We got this! :)
do you find the piano to be the perfect height for playing like a regular piano
Thank you for watching! It is a good height for me, but I am also 5 10 and not the tallest guy. One thing I recommend is triple check your measurements before starting to be sure that your specs work for you.
@@TechedOff im 6 ft, how high is your chair i have the same drawers and table top and my piano is 5.5 inches in height
It's cool. Like from Brasil.
Hey thanks for watching! It’s definitely a space saver and cheaper than a lot of other solutions too. It’s very nice to have the keyboard facing the computer ready to go and out of the way when it’s not in use. I hope it helped you out! :)
how many Kg weight your keyboard? This is exactly mod that need it in my setup but my kurzweil K2600XS is 32 kg
Thanks for watching! My current piano is about 17 kg and I have no problems there. I’m not sure about 32 but with some extra reinforcement or a tougher material for the shelf you might be ok.
What is the length of the table top part of this desk! Looking to recreate something similar for my 88 key
Hey thanks for watching! I hope it helped you out with ideas/strategies with your own setup. The shelf that the piano is on is 54 inches, but of course you could cut it to whatever length you needed. My actual oak desktop is 8 feet long.
I see Alex drawers but what is your table top?
Hello and thanks for watching! Those are indeed Alex drawers on the sides. The tabletop is an ikea hammarp oak tabletop. I chose it because it’s solid oak and not veneer. Hardware stores like Home Depot and Lowe’s also sell these types of tabletops as well.
Can this system hold a midi keyboard that weighs above 20kg ?
Also does the sliders have a lock system or does it make the tray slide back in when playing your digital piano ? Looking forward for your reply 🙂
Hey and thanks for watching! I'm glad to have helped you with your project. The slider product page on Amazon simply states that the weight capacity depends on the method that you use to mount the tracks to your surface. Obviously my method is plenty overkill by most standards. My piano is 38 pounds plus a couple of pounds for the shelf, and I've noticed zero movement, wobble, or loosening of the shelf or tracks from their mounting points. As long as you are not putting something really heavy like 50kg or so, you'd probably be OK. As for the locking system, yes! These tracks do lock in place when fully pulled out so that the keyboard does not slide back underneath your desk when playing. I was specifically worried about that when designing this and looked for tracks with that specific feature. Obviously you don't need to use the exact tracks that I did, as the dimensions of your keyboard may differ from mine. But I can say that the general design works great and I'd definitely recommend it to others. I appreciate your patience and I hope this response helped you out. If you have any other questions please ask!
@@TechedOff thank you for such a detailed response. Actually I am planning to get the studiologic Sl88 Grand which weighs around 20-21kg. But since you mentioned that this slider can take 50kg load then I guess 20kg wouldn't be a problem then. As for the dimensions, I already have the table made accordingly but I am just planning to upgrade the tray system like the way you set it up . Hoping everything works out :)
The problem with these including the one I made is it tends to move around too much when extended
Does yours move around a lot? Mine has been fine so far. Yes you are definitely right that the longer the tracks extend the less support there is which is why I mounted my tracks as far forward as possible so I could extend them as little as possible while still having access.
Can this fit a 76 key
Hello and thank you for watching! It absolutely can, as I have an 88 key with a bit of room to spare. I wouldn’t cut the shelf exactly to size though. I’d leave a couple of inches of extra space just in case.
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Creepy camera angle
Haha thanks! Just trying to give every angle possible to give a better look.