Thank you for the video, it's a great help. One thing I didn't realize, using the MS6514 set as "Meter" (not PID or TC4) in the Device Assignment, T1 on the unit is read as Exhaust Temp, and T2 is read as Bean Temp. After troubleshooting some serial port issues, everything seemed fine but my test reading kept showing "u.u" as BT. I had disabled ET display since I only have one probe currently. Well guess what, if you disable ET display and your probe is plugged into T1 on the MS6514, you see nothing! 🤔 So word to the wise, by default T1 is ET, T2 is BT, and from what I can tell there is no way to switch these on the Meter setup. No big deal, just Good To Know as they say. :-D
YES thank you so much for mentioning this! This is a critical point with the Mastech that I meant to point out in the video so I'm gonna pin your comment for others. I've had my thermocouple plugged into T2 for so long I just took it for granted and forgot why 😅
Hah thanks yeah I see the same thing in the computer space--you have something set up in your environment so long that you completely forget you had to set that specific thing aeons ago 😆 It looks like you can Swap ET/BT under Curves->Filters, but I assume this would be used when you had data coming in on both channels.
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Just set up my Artisan using this video and was struggling with getting my Perfect Prime T21000GN (aftermarket Mastech).... Anyways you do need to put words in the video (where you are configuring the TC device) that you need to have it in T2 connection instead of T1.... I was messing with driver setting and finally figured this out haha. Just want to help the next person who finds this video and save them time. Again great video!
I really appreciate this video! I'm sure it saved me hours and let me get right to trying out Artisan on some roasts. I'm wondering if you have any plans to do a video showing an actual roast using a Fresh Roast machine and Artisan. So far I'm finding it very difficult to understand what I should be watching for and targeting during the roast, and the result is an RoR that's all over the place and not very good tasting coffee. I'm especially having a hard time figuring out how much heat to give it during the drying phase to get the roast on a trajectory where a declining RoR is possible throughout the rest of the roast while achieving the temperatures necessary to hit first crack. Thanks!
I am planning on a video on RoR! I hadn't planned on focusing it exclusively on the fresh roast, but I can certainly use it as an example. Personally, I think folks focus on the RoR too much - if you focus on a reasonable bean curve, the RoR will follow. If you wanna email a log or two of what you have going on, I'd be happy to provide some feedback!
Hello again David, I know you mentioned that you don't use ET with the Mastech, but can you measure bt and et with the 6514? Is it just a matter of using T1 and T2 on the Mastech and using 2 thermocouples? Bill
Great video! This is awesome for a newbie. When I hit drop and OFF, it asks if I want to save the profile. If I hit yes it clears the viewer, and I need to manually open the profile if I want to look at it. Where can I find the setting where it does not auto clear the completed roast?
Hmmm, so for me this is what happens: when I click Save, it opens the saved profile in a separate window and then clears the profile from my original window. I'm not sure where to adjust that setting, but if you find it please report back and let me know!
Great video. Very informative. One question: When i configure my buttons as you did yours, they lay over the top of each other in the same range yet yours (auto?-) separate into different ranges on the y-axis as if augmented with a value plus the [99, 88, 77,... and so on] that you entered. Is the "combo" setting the one that auto-separates those data points and lines for power and fan into separate ranges? Also, what's the idea behind the 99, 88,...? Why not use 100, 90, 80,...? Maybe this is the piece I'm not understanding here.
Yeah I dont understand either why his actual values for both fan and power buttons seem to show on the graph in a completely disconnected way from either the left or right y axis. Fan9 with value 99 seems to show at 300 on the left axis, 27 on the right. Similarly disconnected to values for Power1 value 11, etc. The idea behind separating the button values by any number greater than 1 is that they will create that stepper effect and visually convey the up or down steps youre making with the fan and power settings. The larger the number, the larger the steps will display, the more pronounced the effect. "Combo" is just the event-marker style that shows on the graph, which is what the event buttons trigger. It is a combo of the "flag" style, which displays the assigned button values (99, 88, etc.) and the "step" style, which is that distinct stepper line you see across the graph.
Nice! This would have made configuring for an SR800 so much easier, but since it took me hours poking through Artisan settings, at least I know how it works now 😂 One thing to look out for in smoothing, during the roast increasing the sample count and span will add delay to the RoR calc, so high smoothing might make it difficult to react quickly. In any case I've found RoR in an SR more of a nice to know during the roast since it's so reactive to air temp. I'll just stick to my fan and power plan, then review the RoR vs taste to adjust the next roast. Lastly for Phidget users, I've designed a nice 3d printed enclosure to hold the boards and wires. Keeps things neat and as noise free as possible. As always, thanks for being one of the only resources for SR roasting! I've learned so much from this channel and will continue to buy your excellent green to support!
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I go back and forth on roasting reactively to RoR and just using it as diagnosis when cupping and deciding on a good profile. These days I look at it as more of a trend as to what's happening and try not to be super reactive mid roast... It's so easy to overcompensate and overshoot. Either way, it's a tool for your toolbox and how you use it is up to you! Do you sell your 3d printed phidget enclosure?
Hot n' fast with a really short dev time! We actually did an in-depth breakdown on that coffee with artisan profiles and everything on our IG and FB pages! If you don't use those platforms, shoot me an email and I'll send back my favorite profile ☺
What is the best way to do this on an android tablet? I do not have a windows machine nor do I plan on getting one. Are there other software you know on Android that is worth a look? thanks
I don't have an android tablet to test this for myself, but a few of our customers have told us they use an app called "Coffee Roaster Pro" and seem to really like it!
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Thank you so much. I will look into it. I need to learn how it might work with my roaster and if there is a way to thermocouple this so I don't have manual entry. I just started watching your videos and have really enjoyed what you do. I will start buying some green coffee from you soon.
I couldn't say for sure! I got my Razzo before he started adding the package with the probe. I know it's a pretty standard K-type, but you'd have to ask him the brand
If memory serves, that can happen if you forget to mark Dry End (DE) and 1C during the roast! You just have to click the buttons when those events happen, Artisan won't mark them automatically (unless you set it up to mark them at certain temperatures)
I haven't heard of that roaster yet! I did a quick search and all I can find on it is from a few Reddit posts. Shoot me an email if you can find who's selling it and I'll look into it! Always appreciate a chance to see new roasters in this tiny space :)
Thank you David for another great video. I bought the Mastech and probe but haven't installed yet. I was hung up on Artisan but after this great video, I will proceed. I will do a shameless plug and say the coffee that I have purchased from the Captain has been superb. Thanks again!
Coming from a now retired engineering trainer and support person for use of gas utility software, your video and structure for a beginner class was very well done. Setting up software such as this is part of the hurdle in training! Well done.
Great video and instructions David, thanks! After I watched it (a couple of times) I decided to buy the Mastech, probe, etc. Did everything as instructed, but Artisan is not picking the temperature from the thermometer. It is being displayed only in the Mastech but when I turn Artisan on, I get a message “0 received, 18 needed”. I configured Artisan and the driver for port 3 and not sure what else to try to make them communicate. Would you, or anyone in this forum that might have experienced this problem, be able to provide some guidance here? Thanks guys, and keep roasting!
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Thanks! Funny thing is… after I asked for help, I moved the probe from T1 to T2 and it worked! The Mastech is now talking with my lap top and I see the temperature in Artisan! I’m ready to roast for the first time with Artisan. Thanks for the tip @MattSF23!!!
Thank you for the video, it's a great help. One thing I didn't realize, using the MS6514 set as "Meter" (not PID or TC4) in the Device Assignment, T1 on the unit is read as Exhaust Temp, and T2 is read as Bean Temp. After troubleshooting some serial port issues, everything seemed fine but my test reading kept showing "u.u" as BT. I had disabled ET display since I only have one probe currently. Well guess what, if you disable ET display and your probe is plugged into T1 on the MS6514, you see nothing! 🤔
So word to the wise, by default T1 is ET, T2 is BT, and from what I can tell there is no way to switch these on the Meter setup. No big deal, just Good To Know as they say. :-D
YES thank you so much for mentioning this! This is a critical point with the Mastech that I meant to point out in the video so I'm gonna pin your comment for others. I've had my thermocouple plugged into T2 for so long I just took it for granted and forgot why 😅
Hah thanks yeah I see the same thing in the computer space--you have something set up in your environment so long that you completely forget you had to set that specific thing aeons ago 😆
It looks like you can Swap ET/BT under Curves->Filters, but I assume this would be used when you had data coming in on both channels.
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Just set up my Artisan using this video and was struggling with getting my Perfect Prime T21000GN (aftermarket Mastech).... Anyways you do need to put words in the video (where you are configuring the TC device) that you need to have it in T2 connection instead of T1.... I was messing with driver setting and finally figured this out haha. Just want to help the next person who finds this video and save them time. Again great video!
Probably the best Artisan setup videos for Air Roasters I have seen. Thank you for making this video David. Great Job!😀
Thanks so much, Mike! That means a ton coming from you 😁
Lots more artisan videos here! artisan-scope.org/docs/videos/
I really appreciate this video! I'm sure it saved me hours and let me get right to trying out Artisan on some roasts. I'm wondering if you have any plans to do a video showing an actual roast using a Fresh Roast machine and Artisan. So far I'm finding it very difficult to understand what I should be watching for and targeting during the roast, and the result is an RoR that's all over the place and not very good tasting coffee. I'm especially having a hard time figuring out how much heat to give it during the drying phase to get the roast on a trajectory where a declining RoR is possible throughout the rest of the roast while achieving the temperatures necessary to hit first crack. Thanks!
I am planning on a video on RoR! I hadn't planned on focusing it exclusively on the fresh roast, but I can certainly use it as an example. Personally, I think folks focus on the RoR too much - if you focus on a reasonable bean curve, the RoR will follow. If you wanna email a log or two of what you have going on, I'd be happy to provide some feedback!
Hello again David, I know you mentioned that you don't use ET with the Mastech, but can you measure bt and et with the 6514? Is it just a matter of using T1 and T2 on the Mastech and using 2 thermocouples?
Bill
You got it! Artisan defaults as reading the T1 input as ET and the T2 input as B2
@@TheCaptainsCoffee thanks again
Great video! This is awesome for a newbie. When I hit drop and OFF, it asks if I want to save the profile. If I hit yes it clears the viewer, and I need to manually open the profile if I want to look at it. Where can I find the setting where it does not auto clear the completed roast?
Hmmm, so for me this is what happens: when I click Save, it opens the saved profile in a separate window and then clears the profile from my original window. I'm not sure where to adjust that setting, but if you find it please report back and let me know!
very helpfull video 👌.
Looking forward for other artisan based videos from you.
subs for sure
Great video. Very informative. One question: When i configure my buttons as you did yours, they lay over the top of each other in the same range yet yours (auto?-) separate into different ranges on the y-axis as if augmented with a value plus the [99, 88, 77,... and so on] that you entered. Is the "combo" setting the one that auto-separates those data points and lines for power and fan into separate ranges?
Also, what's the idea behind the 99, 88,...? Why not use 100, 90, 80,...? Maybe this is the piece I'm not understanding here.
Yeah I dont understand either why his actual values for both fan and power buttons seem to show on the graph in a completely disconnected way from either the left or right y axis. Fan9 with value 99 seems to show at 300 on the left axis, 27 on the right. Similarly disconnected to values for Power1 value 11, etc.
The idea behind separating the button values by any number greater than 1 is that they will create that stepper effect and visually convey the up or down steps youre making with the fan and power settings. The larger the number, the larger the steps will display, the more pronounced the effect.
"Combo" is just the event-marker style that shows on the graph, which is what the event buttons trigger. It is a combo of the "flag" style, which displays the assigned button values (99, 88, etc.) and the "step" style, which is that distinct stepper line you see across the graph.
@@RamonMartinez-jz9uv thanks very much for the very well explained answer.!!
Nice! This would have made configuring for an SR800 so much easier, but since it took me hours poking through Artisan settings, at least I know how it works now 😂 One thing to look out for in smoothing, during the roast increasing the sample count and span will add delay to the RoR calc, so high smoothing might make it difficult to react quickly. In any case I've found RoR in an SR more of a nice to know during the roast since it's so reactive to air temp. I'll just stick to my fan and power plan, then review the RoR vs taste to adjust the next roast. Lastly for Phidget users, I've designed a nice 3d printed enclosure to hold the boards and wires. Keeps things neat and as noise free as possible.
As always, thanks for being one of the only resources for SR roasting! I've learned so much from this channel and will continue to buy your excellent green to support!
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I go back and forth on roasting reactively to RoR and just using it as diagnosis when cupping and deciding on a good profile. These days I look at it as more of a trend as to what's happening and try not to be super reactive mid roast... It's so easy to overcompensate and overshoot. Either way, it's a tool for your toolbox and how you use it is up to you! Do you sell your 3d printed phidget enclosure?
@@TheCaptainsCoffee not for sale, but free to dl and print! This sort of stuff is so specific, I'd rather just give it back to the coffee community
@@daRock1212 That's awesome! Share a link and I'm happy to pass it around with credit to you!
@@TheCaptainsCoffee haha thanks for the nice words David. I think if I link in comments it gets blocked though. I'll try
@@daRock1212 alternatively, feel free to shoot me an email through our contact page :)
Thank you. Got my phidgets set up on my SR800 with extension tube. Ready to roast!
Any tips on roasting the double ferment anaerobic I ordered from you? Haven't roasted a fermented, or anaerobic bean yet lol. Using sr800
Hot n' fast with a really short dev time! We actually did an in-depth breakdown on that coffee with artisan profiles and everything on our IG and FB pages! If you don't use those platforms, shoot me an email and I'll send back my favorite profile ☺
What is the best way to do this on an android tablet? I do not have a windows machine nor do I plan on getting one. Are there other software you know on Android that is worth a look? thanks
I don't have an android tablet to test this for myself, but a few of our customers have told us they use an app called "Coffee Roaster Pro" and seem to really like it!
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Thank you so much. I will look into it. I need to learn how it might work with my roaster and if there is a way to thermocouple this so I don't have manual entry. I just started watching your videos and have really enjoyed what you do. I will start buying some green coffee from you soon.
@@ToddParker aww shucks thanks!
Great video David. You know I have the Razzo Chamber….any idea what brand probe it comes with?
I couldn't say for sure! I got my Razzo before he started adding the package with the probe. I know it's a pretty standard K-type, but you'd have to ask him the brand
My graph is doing something weird with with the phase calculations. I get like negative 1000%. I didn’t change anything. Any ideas?
If memory serves, that can happen if you forget to mark Dry End (DE) and 1C during the roast! You just have to click the buttons when those events happen, Artisan won't mark them automatically (unless you set it up to mark them at certain temperatures)
This video is incredibly helpful. Thanks!
Thank you for this great introduction to Artisan! Also, I would love to see the newly-released Skywalker coffee roaster officially support Artisan.
I haven't heard of that roaster yet! I did a quick search and all I can find on it is from a few Reddit posts. Shoot me an email if you can find who's selling it and I'll look into it! Always appreciate a chance to see new roasters in this tiny space :)
I just sent you the details over your contact form on your web site :)
Thank you David for another great video. I bought the Mastech and probe but haven't installed yet. I was hung up on Artisan but after this great video, I will proceed. I will do a shameless plug and say the coffee that I have purchased from the Captain has been superb. Thanks again!
You're awesome Bob, thanks so much!
Coming from a now retired engineering trainer and support person for use of gas utility software, your video and structure for a beginner class was very well done. Setting up software such as this is part of the hurdle in training! Well done.
That means a ton, thank you so much!
Great video as always, David! Really need to buy a probe now 😅
Thanks so much!
This was super useful, thank you so much!
happy to help!
I use Roastmaster on my IPad,,,makes it easy to work with wirelessly
Thank you, I'll check that out!
@@TheCaptainsCoffee you will need a Thermo Q blue for the interface I believe ,,,not sure if phigit will talk to Roastmaster ?
I’ve been trying to download the silicone labs driver but it’s not opening up. Any videos for a Mac?
Great video and instructions David, thanks! After I watched it (a couple of times) I decided to buy the Mastech, probe, etc. Did everything as instructed, but Artisan is not picking the temperature from the thermometer. It is being displayed only in the Mastech but when I turn Artisan on, I get a message “0 received, 18 needed”. I configured Artisan and the driver for port 3 and not sure what else to try to make them communicate. Would you, or anyone in this forum that might have experienced this problem, be able to provide some guidance here? Thanks guys, and keep roasting!
I've not seen that message before! Feel free to shoot me an email with a screenshot and more info, I might be able to help you figure it out
@@TheCaptainsCoffee Thanks! Funny thing is… after I asked for help, I moved the probe from T1 to T2 and it worked! The Mastech is now talking with my lap top and I see the temperature in Artisan! I’m ready to roast for the first time with Artisan. Thanks for the tip @MattSF23!!!
@@mvinhaes yup, I forgot to mention that in the tutorial so I'm grateful Matt pointed it out!