Fans might HATE this Iroh Backstory Reveal
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
- In today's video, we're diving into a shocking revelation about Uncle Iroh's past that could change everything we thought we knew about him. A betrayal so deep, it left me reeling.
If you haven’t already heard, there is a new story coming out between Iroh and June, where Iroh has to confront his past while June looks to her future. I admit, I wasn’t really looking forward to this new story until this new information came out about it. Now I’m fully on board to see how this will play out. Stick around until the end of the video and I’ve got a feeling you’ll have the same reaction as me.
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Okay I'm extremely interested in this story now. Iroh is within my top 3 favorite characters for ATLA, that said I've always been interested to see how his soldiers and the fire nation reacted to his retreat at ba sing se after they had breached the wall.
I honestly sympathise with the soldiers here, in many ways, general iroh inadvertently left his men to die under his command. That’s kinda messed up, but at least he became a good person.
@@nightelf2487 True, I was always curious on how the soldiers under his command during Ba Sing Se reacted to his retreat. When he was captured by the Fire Nation he was called the pride of the fire nation and their top general, I want to see the fall out and the reactions of his people. From those who sympathized with him, hated him, or thought he had no honor.
I really don’t think this is an issue. We are literally told in the original series that Iroh had a “complicated” past and wasn’t always the wise and lovable uncle we know him as. And it makes sense if you look at how the royal family is brought up.
People often forget that Iroh was a highly renowned general of the fire nation, not just by the populace, but by the soliders and the ruling class. As renowned as Ozai is by the fire nation army during the show. Iroh has probably ordered the deaths of thousands of people and the destruction and settlement of vast amounts of land
That part.
They do show that he had some good in him before though with him not killing the last dragons
@@anthoy6210 this would be the same as if a nazi general didn’t kill an endangered species…
@@SAMiam0568 Yeah but they make a point about it in the show showing that he has a heart
@@SAMiam0568 Iroh wasn’t the best person in his past, but it’s unlikely he did stuff the previous OP mentioned either.
Iroh choosing not to kill the last dragons wasn’t just him choosing to spare an individual species, but a demonstration of his ability to recognize the importance of balance.
General Iroh out of all the officials probably took the least drastic measures during his time in the war. Avoiding killing, destruction of land, etc.
Depending on what they show in this comic shows, some people might hate Iroh. We have to remember that he wasn't always the good person we see in the show
Exact same thing can be said about Zuko
@@bradydefelice2944iroh is definitely worse then anything zuko did. Iroh definitely killed people
like Tyrion Lannister
That's impossible lol. People love Iroh. Nothing would change that.
@@MachinaOwlyou do realize the only reason he “changed” is cause his son died
After lu ten died iroh felt a lot of emotional pain. Which made him realize the truth, the fire nation did this to many people in the rest of the world. He didn't want to this on anyone else, he now realized peace is what the world truly needs.
Took his own son dying for him to realize that, not the deaths of thousands of other peoples sons that he most likely ordered.
As much as I love Iroh, any story that shows us his flaws is welcome. Partially because people's hyping of him can get a little too much for me and partially because seeing the man he used to be informs more of his character arc that was completed when he burned the Fire Nation banner from the palace gates of Ba Sing Se. People forget that Iroh is not the perfect person that so many fans believe him to be. While he is a paragon of wisdom and proponent of balance in the animated series proper, he is a complicated man with a muddied past and has committed a great number of wrongs. We just often overlook those decisions and flaws as fans because he is such an endearing character. So finding out that he just up and left his troops informs us as the audience of how he processed his son's death. We're not used to such a side of Iroh, who is usually seen as the portrait of responsibility and honor.
I am so ready to see more of the Dragon of the West and he deals with this ghost of his past.
I don't see how this will change what people think of Iroh, we already knew that he was a general and that he was responsible for the deaths of people.
In the original show we saw the path he has taken and that is why he is so loved by the community, in this comic we'll see how he took that path which will be quite interesting but I don't think it will ruin what people think of him.
It's because people are less likely to criticize a character they like if they don't visibly see their sins. People love Iroh because of how wise, funny, and compassionate he is. That's all we've mostly been shown.
The only betrayal would be if we found out Iroh was born old and wise and never made a mistake in his life.
Hope we get to see more of Uncle Iroh and Lu Ten's relationship more in season 2 of the live action show
I feel so bad for iroh his tea supply ended
😂
@@AntoineBandele tysmmmmmm
Why would anyone hate this? Iroh didn't magically become a good person the instant Lue Ten died, not only would be have still been a war waging general but now he's broken, distressed, and grieving. It makes perfect sense that he would just up and leave while at his lowest point like this.
The only way anyone would hate this is if they hate the idea of their favorite character having flaws, even though Iroh was already established to be a flawed person in the past anyway.
Whenever I hear about Iroh's siege of Ba Sing Se, I can't help myself but think about all the memes about Iroh committing war crimes
Looks like I need to make a video about if he was a war criminal or not.
@AntoineBandele well, technically and legally, probably not since the Avatarverse doesn't appear to have an equivalent to the Geneva Convention or an International Criminal Court.
And what country would even act as a neutral agreed upon arbiter? There doesn't seem to be any neutral nations left to be as such. Kyoshi Island probably would have, but they ended their neutrality. And unlike what happened after WW2, I don't think the Fire Nation would allow War Crimes trial decisions to be implemented considering they didn't lose in a conventional sense, nor did they appear to surrender like Japan did after World War 2.
In the end, the Fire Lord as an institution was kept and while Zuko did work to repair the harm done by his country, he still ruled for all intents and purposes, as an absolute monarch.
Iroh without a doubt is my favorite character. Exploring his past as a villain I feel only makes him better in my opinion
Iroh was a *general* in a *war.* You have to be really naive to think that this man don't have blood in his hands. He probably killed and destroyed entire families along his way to Ba Sing Se, and if it wasn't for Lu Ten death, he would surely turn out to be another cruel Firelord like Ozai, Azulon and Sozin. All that said, that makes me appreciate even more he's development as a character, and i would love to see more about his relationship with Lu Ten and his reaction after his son passing away... Man, i love this series.
Finally, a comic that won't suck because not one of them has been actually good.
Most of them are certainly mid.
Only the first two are good-The Promise and The Search.
You cappin. The Search was great and The Promise was good
One complaint I have about The Search is that we never saw Ursa's reaction to Zuko's scar.
@@sarveshnathan7559 True. She honestly should've been shocked that he looked so different
2:03 "Never taking any jobs from government authorities." This sounds like the Daofei code from the Kyoshi novels.
Right!? It’s what reminded me of Kyoshi parents, which I mentioned.
I know you might not see this Antoine but I've been watching since Legend of Korra game streams and ive been LITERALLY DYING COMING BACK TO LIFE THEN DYING AGAIN trying to play The Legend of Korra. You are one of the few people i know that have that game, and if its not to much to ask for i would love to buy or borrow your account with The Legend of Korra on it so i can have the same experiences I've been watching for the pass 10 years.
Two days ago I just lost aunt she and I witnessed my grandpa and Grandmomma cry in so long they never cried in front of me I saw my mom go down on her knees and I could do nothing but watch but I ain’t she tell me whenever during a hard time she would want me to be like uncle Iruh and help them through whatever troubles they have so I told my family that her spirit may be going up to heaven for her love will always remain here on earth she passed away two days ago she was 58 years old rest in peace the best aunt in the world.
May she rest in peace. And may you keep being the person Uncle Iroh knows you can be, good job man
1:25 June called Nyla male in the cartoon, too.
Poor Iroh 😢
There’s a Roku novel coming out in July, maybe it will also have some more fire nation backstory/history too.
Yeah. But not related to Iroh since he wasn’t even a thought then.
@@AntoineBandele Yeah, I wasn’t saying for Iroh, just that there hasn’t been a ton of stuff focused around the fire nation specifically.
Indeed. The best stuff about the live action was the Fire Nation expansion.
I love the vids man, I watched one of yours a while back. Discussing Ozai's actual power. And I'm wondering if you can tell me the answer to this question. Azula's fire is blue, which is a hotter flame due to her incredible control and commitment to the actual practice of firebending. How can she have mastered firebending to such a level that her flames change colour and temperature, and still fall short in comparison to Ozai?
It honestly makes more sense that Iroh is so forgiving and understanding of Zuko's myriad mistakes if he had made such a terrible blunder as this.
even if he did just leave though, the second in command could take over to organize a retreat or try to push the offensive.
So, Iroh was so devastated by his loss, he abandoned his troops in Ba-Sing-Se? If so, that rough, buddy.
Nice Iroh did always have a complicated past not surprised
I've always thought that Iroh literally left the siege and did not give his soldiers an orders just because of how much Zhao makes fun of his failure in Book 1 and that we learn it's because of his son. If he was broken enough to the point that he abandoned the siege, I don't see any reason why he would be in the best condition to think and plan for retreat, hence, failing the whole thing altogether.
And if this is the case, then I welcome it. The only reason why I'm doubtful of this is dependent on how it is portrayed in a sense that Iroh must've lose honor when who loses but he should still have some honor under his name somehow remain respected enough and to remain with decent political and public esteem.
To be fair, Iroh was literally a general in the Fire Nation Army, him killing people shouldn't too shocking
"The Dragon of the West!"
Honestly, Iroh change for the better was only 5 years not decades by the start of book 1 and he was pretty old. I think Iroh is a great character, but I have no delusions that he didn’t commit horrible crimes. He was the crown prince and general of the firenation for years and his father favorite for a reason. Nothing reveled in the comic will surprise me or turn me against the character. There is reason Iroh forgave Zuko so easily for choosing to help Azula at the end of book 2, and that was most likely because Iroh knows he done worse and that he was in no position to judge Zuko.
Honestly this comic and the one about mako are one I'm waiting for
I honestly could see that Irohs backstory would have been bad because he was the “dragon of the west” and wanted to attack ba sing se and take over it. However once his son died he turned a new leaf probably after several weeks of coping from that event and became the new renowned amazing uncle we know today
Running away from conquering Ba Sing Se is the least evil thing Iroh ever did. I'm not gonna feel bad for a bunch of soldiers who were invading another nation.
“I don’t know about that”
Well on one hand leaving his past a mystery really says how Iroh's past doesn't define him but on the other hand this might be a reminder that Iroh was born to the Fire Nation Royal Family when the Century War was getting underway.
Gotta Deconstruct your old Childhood heroes don't you know?
I think
Long Fen killed Irohs son
Ayo!!
-He was the best guy arouuuuund
-what about the people he murdered?
-What murrrrderrrrrsss???
I wish the live action went these ways instead of the huge miss with the og. Would have been so cool to see it as live action and it wouldnt have had to live up to one of the best shows created.
How long was he a member of the white lotus?
Not known concretely. But he definitely joined up before the original cartoon timeline.
Am I the only one who thinks June's parents group might be affiliated with Kyoshis daofei group ?
I think this because of the similarity in the code
how is nyla male if she said good girl in the tv show?
Must be a comic book era. Hopefully they catch it before publication.
Is the comic gonna be canon?
Yes.
@@AntoineBandelealso have you done a video on the upcoming reckoning of Roku comic yet?
Reckoning of Roku is an upcoming novel, not a comic. And yes.
@@AntoineBandele oh sorry I got it mixed up thank you
But in the show doesn’t June call Nyla a girl like multiple times?
Future me how was it?
Don’t get me wrong, I love Iroh, but his character is the real world equivalent to a nazi general who lost his son in world war 2 and found enlightenment. You know, cause they genocided a whole race of airbenders
I agree about him not being a good person in the past, but he wasn't even born during the air nomad genocide
its sad to say but anything past TLA s3 isn't in my head cannon.
what about that avatar iroh game
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