I work in the surface repair industry , sometimes you need to spray inside, with something bigger than an airbrush, but not too big. The goal is to keep overspray down. Keep the repair areas as small as possible . Been researching like crazy and your videos amongst others have pointed me in the direction of a lph 80. Seems to be an incredible versatile gun. Can work for fine stuff, but also capable of larger areas. Got one ordered. Cant wait to test in out.
Hi Buddy, I don't think you will be disappointed. It sounds like it will do exactly what you need. It'll run happily at 1 bar/14.5 Psi and produce minimal overspray, It'll be interesting to hear what you think when you've had a chance to use it. Thanks, mate 👍
Hi. Awesome video. I’m just starting my journey with custom painting motorcycle helmets and small custom jobs on tanks and fenders. Your videos are helping me a lot! Thank you.
Hi Pete you probably hear this all the time but I must say your videos are bloody brilliant I really enjoy watching them, I’m just starting out so trying to learn from you 👍.
Hi Mate, Yeah, people tell me it all the time. My head is so big I have trouble getting in the workshop door 😂. But on a serious note, I genuinely enjoy making these videos and sharing what I do. It would be nothing without people like you watching, so a big thank you to you, cheers 👍
Hi David, me neither. The original idea was to keep continuity and I was going to use the LPH80 for the rest of the work later down the line so I thought I would try it and it was a great little gun for it, cheers mate 👍
I'm painting a Suzuki 600 bandit tommorow direct gloss metallic black with a GTI prolite in a 1.4 and TE10 air cap going to use Nippon paint shipped from Japan I'm going to flat it back once cured airbrush some logos on and clear coat on top it should absolutely pop, great vid Pete 😊😊
Hi Pete, great results with the LPH80 it laid the direct gloss down really nice and you could tell in the video that there was a lot less overspray than usual👏👌 I've used direct gloss a few times but I'm not that keen on it as it left my floor and walls in my booth feeling sticky, I noticed it on my feet that they were sticking to the floor😂 not sure why as it's similar to clear but there is something in the paint causing it maybe it's the pigment that hangs in the air more🤔🤷♂ The tank looked amazing outside at the end mate the gloss on that is just as good as a base and clear finish but as you say adding clearcoat to the mix helps👌thanks Pete👍
Hi John, 2k does tend to stay open longer, depending on hardener, temperature, etc, but all things equal, it takes a lot longer to go off, so that's probably the tacky feeling you're getting. I was amazed how well this little gun did with the direct gloss, I don't spray it a lot, but always use a 1.4 as it suits it well. The LPH80 is like a small DV1S, so it's not ideal, but it came out lovely. Cheers, buddy 👍
Great review. Definitely my favorite gun of all time. I have 3 of them😂 Only have a small compressor, tiny booth, and only do small stuff for now, so perfect for what I do.
Great videos on your channel! This must be the best gun for electric guitars bodies. It will lie lovely sunburst. Buying one! Just need to match some tiny compressor to it
These are ideal for guitars. Have a look at this video. It gives you an idea of what sort of pattern size to expect, including some same sized bigger faned guns, cheers mate 👍 ruclips.net/video/9pG-MDT6PWQ/видео.htmlsi=e5ASMmcYILx85f0q
Hi Pete. I have a real problem with overspray when I spray clear on body parts like hoods/fenders/bumpers in my garage. I can see plumes of clear rolling out the garage. I dont want to upset my neighbors. Do you think an LPH80 would work for me if I maintain good overlap and keep a wet edge? I dont mind going slower I just want less overspray and still be able to flow out the clear. I usually use my FLG5 and my R500 with good results just more of the overspray that you get with a full size gun. I just recently purchased a used LPH400 1.3 LV4 in great shape off ebay. Its on the way but Im afraid that it might still create too much overspray.
Hi Marc, The LPH80 would do anything you want provided you are methodical about the way you go about it, and yes, it would cut down on the overspray as well. The LPH400 produces less overspray, too, provided you keep the pressure around 16psi. You can make a couple of extractors, I have 2 x 24" fans in a home made box with filter media, so the fans drag the air through the filter on the way out, cuts down on the visible overspray but not the smell unfortunately, but should help
@@peteshobbies5383 Ya thx Pete. I thought about running some fans and filters to keep the visible plumes of clear from going down the street but I wasnt sure if it would work. Ill give it a try. Dont want the neighbors thinking I have a dodgy lab over here LOL. Cheers
I was thinking picking up a WBX 1.3mm. I already have the lph80 1.2mm to get into painting! Should I wait on the WBX or would you recommend having both?
Hi Buddy, it depends on what you're doing really, the WBX is quite a jump on the LPH80. It uses much more air, around 5 to 6 times the amount, so you need a good supply. Certainly, if you want to do bigger projects, the WBX is worth thinking about. They are good 👍
He Pete I’m normally use the 80 as my main gun but also have the newer 50 and a Kawami 4 1.3.. I’m looking for a gun that will shoot larger areas but the kawami is a air and product hog. Lplv gun would be great but I’m hoping for something smaller then a full size gun. Something perfect for let say just a panel or two on a car, suggestions??
Hi Glen, the Kiwami4 you have is I presume the BA4J version?, if so, it is probably the most economical of any full-size gun on air consumption. There is a lot made of LVLP, but I'm very sceptical when marketing people put this on their products because any I have tried simply aren't. Thinking about your question, the only guns I can think of are the Devilbiss DV1S. These are around 5cfm at 26psi, so double what the LPH80 E4 uses at 14psi, but they are like a bigger LPH80 in terms of atomisation and fan size, however, they still aren't particularly fast so a few panels will still take time. The cheap R500 guns are touted as a LVLP in a similar ilk as the Kiwami4/W400 guns but its just a lie, they say the consumption is 3.5cfm when it's around 7.5cfm, just shy of your Kiwami4 BA4J
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the reply I think I’ll try the old gti pro-lite with a 1.3 and I also have an old iwata lph300 1.3 tip but it needs a new tip or something it just doesn’t spray right so I’ll try and fix that as well. Thanks again the pro-lite wasn’t much more then $100
Great video again Pete, thank you. I love my LPH80 but I seriously struggle with clearcoat using my 1.2 tip with the E4 cap. I always end up with orange peel. My gun settings are full fan full fluid at around 15 psi. Clear coat is UPOL HS clear with fast hardner. I absolutely love the gun for spraying motorcycle parts, but clearing can be a challenge to lay it flat. Any tips? Many thanks 🙏🏼
Hi buddy, a few things, do you heat your Upol clear coat? , do you add thinners to it? If so, how much? Gun settings are perfect. What distance do you keep from the work?
Hi Pete, after watching your videos I now heat up my clear to 32/34 deg C. This helps hugely when it’s cold. I don’t use any thinners in my clear coat, could this be where I’m going wrong? If so, can I use any 2k thinners with UPOL HS clear? My spray distance tends to be around 3 to 4 inches. Thank you 🙏🏼
I often don't add thinners to my clear coat, but if you are having trouble with orange peel, it will help. Try adding 10% thinners first. If it's still peely, you need to slow up to get more material on. That should do it
Hi buddy, most gravity guns are low pressure compared to the suction guns that many used to use. Sata RP guns normally run between 2 and 2.5 bar, and this LPH80 with the E4 cap is designed to run at 1 bar
Hi John, These days I use a microwave to warm the clear coat up, not recommended I'm sure as it's probably unsafe, however, it is was I do, around 10 seconds per 100ml. The LPH80 is fine for 2k clear coats, I use a high solids clear in a 1.2 can it works well, it's obvious a slow gun through, cheers 👍
Pete, I have an LPH80 with 1.2 also, never tried it with single stage paint though. you say the fan is small, but it looks almost as large as the chinese knock off prolite, LOL.
@@peteshobbies5383 hi thanks for your answer. the parts i paint are not very big so this is the biggest gun i have and i was just wondering if i can use it for the 004 small size and 008 medium size flakes. if not maybe u can recommend me a nice gun decently priced for this task that is friendly on air
@MihaiDobrin88 The 004 flake should go through a 1.2 ok. The 008 normally needs around 1.6. There's nothing I can think of that uses anything like the low air consumption of the LPH80 with a bigger tip. The Iwata AZ4 is reasonably priced and available with many tip sizes but is around 7.5 cfm, which may be too much?
@@peteshobbies5383 yes mine is 3 cfm i think i will stick to 004 flakes and maybe later on if i need bigger flakes i will go for a bigger gun and compressor. is it any compressor that you would recommend that would work with most of the spray guns up to 3mm nozzle
@MihaiDobrin88 There's no compressor that will do everything without going to the really big ones, but something like a 14.5 cfm 3 hp compressor will do most guns up10cfm or more for shorter times of use
Hi Mark, that's a good question, I think it would but at the expense of depth of gloss, I have tried it with a better clear, Mipa CX4 and it's much more resistant, with the Upol I've found 3 or 4 lighter full coats with a suitable flash off time sorts it out, or a tack coat and a full wet coat although the depth of gloss isn't as good but fine for most applications especially commercials. Too much to soon tends to trap the solvent in, I know it's the case anyway. it just seems more prone to it when mixing with direct gloss
Just shoot only clear as the last coat. Mixing clear and single stage just makes it poor for coverage.. too transparent and then you need a lot of coats. ..dust becomes a problem with more coats.
It's depends on colour and what you are trying to do, I guess, I know lots that do it this way, it doesn't affect the colour much if at all but that obviously depends on how much clear you add and the colours you are using. If I'm shooting clear as the last coat, I would just as well do base and clear anyway as the time saving is negated any
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I work in the surface repair industry , sometimes you need to spray inside, with something bigger than an airbrush, but not too big. The goal is to keep overspray down. Keep the repair areas as small as possible . Been researching like crazy and your videos amongst others have pointed me in the direction of a lph 80. Seems to be an incredible versatile gun. Can work for fine stuff, but also capable of larger areas. Got one ordered. Cant wait to test in out.
Hi Buddy, I don't think you will be disappointed. It sounds like it will do exactly what you need.
It'll run happily at 1 bar/14.5 Psi and produce minimal overspray, It'll be interesting to hear what you think when you've had a chance to use it. Thanks, mate 👍
Hi. Awesome video. I’m just starting my journey with custom painting motorcycle helmets and small custom jobs on tanks and fenders. Your videos are helping me a lot! Thank you.
Hi Adrian, Good to hear you're enjoying the videos, mate. I genuinely enjoy making them. Good luck with the new projects 👍 😀
thanks for the video....quite surprise lph-80 can be so good. will try mine tomorrow..
Hi Mate, it a very good gun but it is slow, so you need to hold it back a little then it's OK, cheers 👍
Hi Pete you probably hear this all the time but I must say your videos are bloody brilliant I really enjoy watching them, I’m just starting out so trying to learn from you 👍.
Hi Mate, Yeah, people tell me it all the time. My head is so big I have trouble getting in the workshop door 😂.
But on a serious note, I genuinely enjoy making these videos and sharing what I do. It would be nothing without people like you watching, so a big thank you to you, cheers 👍
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@marty3553 Thanks, mate 👍
I used to use the LPH80 for clear coat on wheels, found it to be excellent gun for getting into spokes and things like that. Great little gun
Hi Joe, It's a firm favourite with wheel guys. As you say, it's highly manoeuvrable and great for getting into smaller places , cheers mate 👍
Great video Pete. Never would of thought about that gun with single stage paint. 👍👍
Hi David, me neither. The original idea was to keep continuity and I was going to use the LPH80 for the rest of the work later down the line so I thought I would try it and it was a great little gun for it, cheers mate 👍
I'm painting a Suzuki 600 bandit tommorow direct gloss metallic black with a GTI prolite in a 1.4 and TE10 air cap going to use Nippon paint shipped from Japan I'm going to flat it back once cured airbrush some logos on and clear coat on top it should absolutely pop, great vid Pete 😊😊
Hi Dean, Sounds like a good project 😀, hope it goes ok , Nippon Paint, very posh, I must say 👍
Hi Pete, great results with the LPH80 it laid the direct gloss down really nice and you could tell in the video that there was a lot less overspray than usual👏👌
I've used direct gloss a few times but I'm not that keen on it as it left my floor and walls in my booth feeling sticky, I noticed it on my feet that they were sticking to the floor😂 not sure why as it's similar to clear but there is something in the paint causing it maybe it's the pigment that hangs in the air more🤔🤷♂
The tank looked amazing outside at the end mate the gloss on that is just as good as a base and clear finish but as you say adding clearcoat to the mix helps👌thanks Pete👍
Hi John, 2k does tend to stay open longer, depending on hardener, temperature, etc, but all things equal, it takes a lot longer to go off, so that's probably the tacky feeling you're getting.
I was amazed how well this little gun did with the direct gloss, I don't spray it a lot, but always use a 1.4 as it suits it well. The LPH80 is like a small DV1S, so it's not ideal, but it came out lovely. Cheers, buddy 👍
Another great upload Pete , keep them coming
Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍
Great review. Definitely my favorite gun of all time. I have 3 of them😂 Only have a small compressor, tiny booth, and only do small stuff for now, so perfect for what I do.
Thanks, buddy. They are great little guns, 3 of them! 😂 , I thought I was bad 😁, cheers mate 👍
great as always..thanks Pete for the content.
Thanks, mate, and thank you for watching. It's much appreciated 👍
I love this gun - great video Pete Thank you once again
Hi Jeff, they are great little guns, aren't they, cheers, mate 👍
Also Pete, is the W50 (non Kiwami) similar to the older Iwata W101 with side cup do you know? Thanks again. Jeff @@peteshobbies5383
Pete thanks for the excellent content !
Thank you for watching mate, always much appreciated 👍
Great videos on your channel! This must be the best gun for electric guitars bodies. It will lie lovely sunburst. Buying one!
Just need to match some tiny compressor to it
These are ideal for guitars. Have a look at this video. It gives you an idea of what sort of pattern size to expect, including some same sized bigger faned guns, cheers mate 👍
ruclips.net/video/9pG-MDT6PWQ/видео.htmlsi=e5ASMmcYILx85f0q
@peteshobbies5383 thanks so much, you're very helpful sir!
@peteshobbies5383 of they only make it with side cup it would be an ultimate tool!
@goopee76 You're welcome, buddy 👍
If you like the side cup, the W50 Bisho is good, uses a bit more air, though at a higher pressure.
Hi Pete. I have a real problem with overspray when I spray clear on body parts like hoods/fenders/bumpers in my garage. I can see plumes of clear rolling out the garage. I dont want to upset my neighbors. Do you think an LPH80 would work for me if I maintain good overlap and keep a wet edge? I dont mind going slower I just want less overspray and still be able to flow out the clear. I usually use my FLG5 and my R500 with good results just more of the overspray that you get with a full size gun. I just recently purchased a used LPH400 1.3 LV4 in great shape off ebay. Its on the way but Im afraid that it might still create too much overspray.
Hi Marc, The LPH80 would do anything you want provided you are methodical about the way you go about it, and yes, it would cut down on the overspray as well.
The LPH400 produces less overspray, too, provided you keep the pressure around 16psi.
You can make a couple of extractors, I have 2 x 24" fans in a home made box with filter media, so the fans drag the air through the filter on the way out, cuts down on the visible overspray but not the smell unfortunately, but should help
@@peteshobbies5383 Ya thx Pete. I thought about running some fans and filters to keep the visible plumes of clear from going down the street but I wasnt sure if it would work. Ill give it a try. Dont want the neighbors thinking I have a dodgy lab over here LOL. Cheers
Great video! Can I switch the air cap e4 to an e2 with same gun or should I buy two guns?
They are fully interchangeable, so E2 and E4 cap both work fine
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you!
@bobwil9903 You're welcome, buddy 👍
I was thinking picking up a WBX 1.3mm. I already have the lph80 1.2mm to get into painting! Should I wait on the WBX or would you recommend having both?
Hi Buddy, it depends on what you're doing really, the WBX is quite a jump on the LPH80. It uses much more air, around 5 to 6 times the amount, so you need a good supply.
Certainly, if you want to do bigger projects, the WBX is worth thinking about. They are good 👍
He Pete I’m normally use the 80 as my main gun but also have the newer 50 and a Kawami 4 1.3.. I’m looking for a gun that will shoot larger areas but the kawami is a air and product hog. Lplv gun would be great but I’m hoping for something smaller then a full size gun. Something perfect for let say just a panel or two on a car, suggestions??
Hi Glen, the Kiwami4 you have is I presume the BA4J version?, if so, it is probably the most economical of any full-size gun on air consumption.
There is a lot made of LVLP, but I'm very sceptical when marketing people put this on their products because any I have tried simply aren't.
Thinking about your question, the only guns I can think of are the Devilbiss DV1S. These are around 5cfm at 26psi, so double what the LPH80 E4 uses at 14psi, but they are like a bigger LPH80 in terms of atomisation and fan size, however, they still aren't particularly fast so a few panels will still take time.
The cheap R500 guns are touted as a LVLP in a similar ilk as the Kiwami4/W400 guns but its just a lie, they say the consumption is 3.5cfm when it's around 7.5cfm, just shy of your Kiwami4 BA4J
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the reply I think I’ll try the old gti pro-lite with a 1.3 and I also have an old iwata lph300 1.3 tip but it needs a new tip or something it just doesn’t spray right so I’ll try and fix that as well. Thanks again the pro-lite wasn’t much more then $100
Great video again Pete, thank you. I love my LPH80 but I seriously struggle with clearcoat using my 1.2 tip with the E4 cap. I always end up with orange peel. My gun settings are full fan full fluid at around 15 psi. Clear coat is UPOL HS clear with fast hardner.
I absolutely love the gun for spraying motorcycle parts, but clearing can be a challenge to lay it flat. Any tips? Many thanks 🙏🏼
Hi buddy, a few things, do you heat your Upol clear coat? , do you add thinners to it? If so, how much?
Gun settings are perfect. What distance do you keep from the work?
Hi Pete, after watching your videos I now heat up my clear to 32/34 deg C. This helps hugely when it’s cold. I don’t use any thinners in my clear coat, could this be where I’m going wrong? If so, can I use any 2k thinners with UPOL HS clear?
My spray distance tends to be around 3 to 4 inches. Thank you 🙏🏼
I often don't add thinners to my clear coat, but if you are having trouble with orange peel, it will help.
Try adding 10% thinners first. If it's still peely, you need to slow up to get more material on. That should do it
Thanks Pete. Will give it a try and let you know how it goes get on. Many thanks and keep up the good work.
Yes, let me know how it goes 👍
Is LPH stands for Low Pressure which is equivalent to Reduced Pressure in Sata?
Hi buddy, most gravity guns are low pressure compared to the suction guns that many used to use.
Sata RP guns normally run between 2 and 2.5 bar, and this LPH80 with the E4 cap is designed to run at 1 bar
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you so much.
@DetailingKingdomGlobal You're welcome, buddy 👍
what psi were you spraying clear at? I see the cap says 14 psi, but ive heard 18 psi for thicker clears
Hi buddy, I always use this at 1 bar, so around 14.5psi, it works perfectly at that, and that is the pressure Iwata recommends
Hi, what type of heater did you use? Can I put 2k clear through the lph80? Thanks
Hi John, These days I use a microwave to warm the clear coat up, not recommended I'm sure as it's probably unsafe, however, it is was I do, around 10 seconds per 100ml.
The LPH80 is fine for 2k clear coats, I use a high solids clear in a 1.2 can it works well, it's obvious a slow gun through, cheers 👍
Pete, I have an LPH80 with 1.2 also, never tried it with single stage paint though. you say the fan is small, but it looks almost as large as the chinese knock off prolite, LOL.
Hi Ken, I see what you mean 😂, it does a bit, I think that's where any possible comparison ends though, mate, we'll, and truly different beasts 😉 👍
can you spray metal flakes? with the 1.2 E4 cap lph80
Hi Mate, generally, no, it will, of course, depend on your flake size as they vary widely, but most will need a bigger tip than 1 2
@@peteshobbies5383 hi thanks for your answer. the parts i paint are not very big so this is the biggest gun i have and i was just wondering if i can use it for the 004 small size and 008 medium size flakes. if not maybe u can recommend me a nice gun decently priced for this task that is friendly on air
@MihaiDobrin88 The 004 flake should go through a 1.2 ok. The 008 normally needs around 1.6.
There's nothing I can think of that uses anything like the low air consumption of the LPH80 with a bigger tip. The Iwata AZ4 is reasonably priced and available with many tip sizes but is around 7.5 cfm, which may be too much?
@@peteshobbies5383 yes mine is 3 cfm i think i will stick to 004 flakes and maybe later on if i need bigger flakes i will go for a bigger gun and compressor. is it any compressor that you would recommend that would work with most of the spray guns up to 3mm nozzle
@MihaiDobrin88 There's no compressor that will do everything without going to the really big ones, but something like a 14.5 cfm 3 hp compressor will do most guns up10cfm or more for shorter times of use
What pressure did you have out of the compressor?
Hi buddy, 1.0 bar, which is around 14psi, it works really well at that pressure, cheers 👍
Thank you for the anwer. What i ment is how much pressure is the output of the compressor. So not at the gate of the gun!@@peteshobbies5383
@bobwil9903 Arh, sorry, it's at maximum output, so around 9.5 bar
That's a lovely finish, would just adding clear coat to the last coat solve the solvent pop issue.
Hi Mark, that's a good question, I think it would but at the expense of depth of gloss, I have tried it with a better clear, Mipa CX4 and it's much more resistant, with the Upol I've found 3 or 4 lighter full coats with a suitable flash off time sorts it out, or a tack coat and a full wet coat although the depth of gloss isn't as good but fine for most applications especially commercials.
Too much to soon tends to trap the solvent in, I know it's the case anyway. it just seems more prone to it when mixing with direct gloss
This is something I'm trying at the moment, adding clear to the single stage, I'm glad you put this video up , thank you
@mark7218 Let me know how you get on , temperature makes a lot of difference. If it's 25c, then there's much less of a chance it will happen
Thank you Pete I will let you know, I have the same small gun as used in the video and a W400
I have 2 of these guns great for small job and tight spots
One of your best mate. Take care......
Thanks mate, hope alls going well in NZ 👍
Yes alll good here weather is getting warmer tooooooooooooooooooooooo
@mreightytwenty8709 Excellent, should help make life a bit easier 👍
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Thanks buddy, always appreciated 🙏
Just shoot only clear as the last coat. Mixing clear and single stage just makes it poor for coverage.. too transparent and then you need a lot of coats. ..dust becomes a problem with more coats.
It's depends on colour and what you are trying to do, I guess, I know lots that do it this way, it doesn't affect the colour much if at all but that obviously depends on how much clear you add and the colours you are using.
If I'm shooting clear as the last coat, I would just as well do base and clear anyway as the time saving is negated any
Pete knows what he’s doing