I believe he closely monitored this case; if law enforcement can retrieve his search history from the past few years, I bet it would be quite intriguing.
I would think that he has had sooo many years to have discarded, reset or erased everything. I sure as he** would've! And I would get a burner phone for a long time.
Libby took out her phone and filmed him for a reason. This creepy guy was approaching them again, and she most likely felt some increased threat from him
I can’t believe no one can see that it’s 💯 him. Wasn’t Logan obviously! Because they got him it’s so clear to me that’s the face on the bridge and the build! Great job!
I could be wrong but I think some of it has to do with how fascinated people are with this case, once the killer is caught the case is over.. the youtube videos will slow down until they stop all together..there will be nothing left to talk about.. I think that has a little to do with it.. I could be entirely wrong, it's just my opinion based on what I've seen since R.A. arrest I also believe there's many people who refuse to believe it's R.A. bc it doesn't fit their narrative. As ridiculous as that sounds.
Also, people in America these days love to feed into conspiracy theories and love to hate law enforcement. The crazier it is the more they want to believe. There's also a lot of misogyny in this country which makes it hard for a female judge to be firm without people calling her names and questioning her judgment. Finally, many people have made theories that they are married to and will never see it differently. People kinda suck.
I think it was targeted and Libby was the target. He was also sadly blessed with an incredibly lucky set of circumstances that lined up exactly what he wanted. Unbelievable but true in my opinion. Like you've said before, there could still be a connection between Kline and Allen, but they just can't prove it.
I've said the same thing for years Bridget.. glad someone else believes this too... Now I don't feel like a lost ball in high weeds! (Apologies for the southern saying! )😂
Doug Carter is very invested in this case and he is committed to police work that contributes to a successful prosecution. He is sold on Richard Allen. He knows what they’ve got and stands behind it. This helps convince me.
Doug Carter is invested in himself. If he was committed to the case, he would have made sure that they were investigating the details of ALL the people who were there that day. Should have been solved YEARS AGO. Would have been solved if their focus was solving the case, instead of getting dolled up for their media appearance.
I would like to know why Richard Allen’s wife abruptly ended his confession phone call. It doesn’t look good on her as a person. I like Gray’s thought provoking questions.
If she hung up the phone because she knew it was being recorded, she was protecting her husband vs protecting justice. It doesn’t look good on her as a person.
If Keegan Kline and Richard Allen had nothing to do with each other its either one of the greatest coincidences in true crime history or the world is a lot more awful of a place than we think it is.
Great stream as always sir 😎. If the game Odin is involved i've always suspected that R.Allen met K.Kline on the free mobile app Odin game. Reviewing the symbols used in the game, an F means: game time reset. (an F was allegedly painted on a tree by the girls bodies) Why murder the girls? Could've been a "battle" in the game or a "reward". Agreed, can't help but notice how similar RA's daughter is to Libby and the location of that photo.
From the fact that RA redressed Abby, taking care of her body, she was most likely RA's target. Also, her underwear and a sock were missing from the crime scene
With all due respect, I would think it's just the opposite. Because the murderer redressed Abby but didn't Libby, leaving Libby naked...and also doing the most damage physically to Libby, that Libby would have definitely been the target, and Abby was just there as collateral damage, sadly. Also, Libby was the one more endowed and the one who corresponded with the Anthony_shots profile all that weekend and that Monday morning about 8 am. I think the girls tried to make a run for it at the creek but they didn't escape, and because of that, the murderer realized that he wasn't going to get them to the car and outta there, which is really I personally think he was originally going to do. I don't think the original plan was to murder 2 girls on someone else's property during the daytime hours where anybody could have just happened to walk by and seen him or heard the girls scream. I think, after the struggle crossing the creek, he then looked around and saw nobody was around, saw his opportunity and decided to just do it there and take his chances. Sadly, he got away with it...well, until now. We'll see.
Allen's build compared to Bridge Guy's build... his gait... his clothing and facial features... the fact that he admitted he was there at the right time and the right place wearing those clothes and had been encountered by others on that day during that timeframe... I cannot conceive that anyone can think it is anyone else. And now those new photos, Gray, of Allen's daughter and her quite startling resemblance to Libby. It chills my what those girls went through, the terror and the dread, and Libby having the amazing presence of mind to film this strange guy heading too quickly and purposefully towards them. Bless you, Libby and Abby, we are all praying for justice for you both and your families. Thank you Gray from Melbourne, Australia for continuing to keep this case front and centre.
Yep. He only admitted he was there wearing those clothes because he knew he had been seen on his way to the bridge and it would look suspicious if he denied it later if called out on it. OK to admit it because that sighting doesn't prove anything since it was a distance away from the murders, EXCEPT he had no idea Libby was recording him when he closed in for the abduction and murders. Remember, that same recording of bridge guy closing in has Abby or Libby saying "he's got a gun," so obviously RA is bridge guy and is the killer. It boggles the mind that they didn't realize someone who put themselves near the crime scene near the time of the slayings also admitted wearing the same clothes as bridge guy until years later.
@@dmger14a The killer(s) left Libby's phone on purpose though. They left her phone with the video on it in a shoe under Abby's body. Police told us their bodies were "moved and staged." Leaving the phone was on purpose but I don't know why.
I think there is a possibility that they were targeted. Libby may have been the initial target. Imo RA is quilty of the crime. Thanks Gray for making this video and the explanations you gave as to how things may have happened.
People seem to think it’s a crazy coincidence for RA to be there on that day with Libby and Abby. I bet he had been stalking the bridge for years. I wonder if law enforcement has looked into establishing a pattern of him being in that park.
Does anyone find RA’s “looking at fish” as a reason for being on the bridge, comical? Who goes to look at fish from a bridge? Also, does anyone think that this was his first crime?
I thought the same. At his age, he must have committed other crimes and not been caught. His reason for being there is as ridiculous as Koberger's star gazing B.S. excuse!
Not if he went out the other way. That's why I don't think it was premeditated. I'm sure he knew the camera was on that building and didn't want to pass it after the crime. Going, was one thing, but after the fact, he didn't want to pass it.
The same people that don't consider the defense team here are simply running a case (nit desperately defending an innocent man) are the same ones who are certain Karen Read has been set up.
The work you do and have done on other cases seems to be good just not this case nothing you say is even remotely correct or even worth listening to just the same ol stupid crap all based on the PCA thats almost all been discredited and proven to be lies so you should just stick to the other cases you cover like the maddie soto case props on your work on that case This case not your strong suite
Can't help but wonder if the man who appeared "muddy and bloody" walking along the road was also caught on camera by the Hoosier Harvestore... 🤔 It's the same road
I have wondered if they found something about RA on the Yubo-Paris trip. They made a big deal of it and then no more said but arrested him a few months later.
I think it's common to start fresh and look at all the evidence again when they hit a dead end for so long and maybe that's when they put the pieces together, and believe that RA said he was there wearing those clothes early on and before the bridge guy video was released. I do believe the witness who saw him leaving muddy and bloody along the road is good supportive evidence because it links the same RA bridge guy to the aftermath and therefore definitively show he's the killer so he can't somehow hail mary argue that yes, he's bridge guy but didn't do it because he went off to hunt mushrooms after telling them to go down the hill - holding them at gunpoint, mind you!.
Kline says he was to meet Libby that day and she did'nt turn up - where? The bridge the trails or somewhere else? Was he there in the area hanging around when Allen showed up, and the girls were there? Did he see anything etc, or was he to meet Libby elsewhere? I can never get to the bottom of this?
Although the defense lawyers are trying to ruin the jury pool, it would take a truly terrible person to sit in a trial, see the family, see the crime photos and decide to vote against conviction when logic would guide a thinking, feeling person towards a conviction. I live in a place where one must be a non-felon who is registered to vote in order to serve on a jury. Hopefully, this is true in Indiana as well, and such conditions will cull out psychopaths from the jury pool. Fun sidebar, the 5-7% of people who gravitate toward antisocial conspiracy theories have more narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies.
Defense attorneys are definitely nasty creatures but not nasty enough to tell him to go ahead and fake insanity and make more confessions. That allegation you made Gray, is absurd.
Facts & research don’t change, RA appearance has dramatically changed since he got locked up. That was like the LISK serial killer was caught, on information they had from the beginning of the case and they reviewed it.
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What do I think? I think I will wait and let the 12+ judges decide after diligently examining the Accuser's burden of proof and diligently examine the accused.
A thought about daughter's picture wearing shirt and on the bridge..could it be she had feeling it was him and did those pictures on purpose to see his reaction?..just my personal thoughts 🤔
They better have more than junk science on an unspent bullet bc if this was all I was presented with as a juror at trial, I wouldn’t be able to convict.
There's literally a video of him telling the girls to go down the hill shortly before they died. Conveniently the Richard defenders keep ignoring that video exists, I wonder why
I agree. Just too much of a coincidence, but LE can't prove it. I think Libby might have been the target and Abby, her best friend, just came along as support when the young boy model, or who they thought was him, said that Monday morning that he wanted to meet Libby at the old railroad. Remember, this wasn't a park or anything, so one would have to know about it or live there to know that it even existed.
The bullet is questionable. The science is not solid and it was apparently 2 inches underground. Could he have bought the gun from someone who used it over there?
i worked in a kmart rx where anyone not the actual phD was just referred to as a tech, regardless of their actual training. their name badges showed if they were degreed or not. so, i have never put much stock if he was an actual tech until the trial.
Down the hill to the private drive, then circle around to the back of the cemetery would be one way. It's odd he parked so far away. It's odd that he kept the same car, the same gun, the same ammo, a blue jacket, and told them he was out of platform 1, etc. He didn't try to get rid of any evidence.
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I believe he closely monitored this case; if law enforcement can retrieve his search history from the past few years, I bet it would be quite intriguing.
I would think that he has had sooo many years to have discarded, reset or erased everything. I sure as he** would've! And I would get a burner phone for a long time.
@@crimeaholic8976 Let’s wait and see how it plays out !
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Libby took out her phone and filmed him for a reason. This creepy guy was approaching them again, and she most likely felt some increased threat from him
It wasn't libby and abby who said creepy guy. That was the freedom bridge girls I believe, or someone else
I can’t believe no one can see that it’s 💯 him. Wasn’t Logan obviously! Because they got him it’s so clear to me that’s the face on the bridge and the build!
Great job!
I could be wrong but I think some of it has to do with how fascinated people are with this case, once the killer is caught the case is over.. the youtube videos will slow down until they stop all together..there will be nothing left to talk about.. I think that has a little to do with it.. I could be entirely wrong, it's just my opinion based on what I've seen since R.A. arrest
I also believe there's many people who refuse to believe it's R.A. bc it doesn't fit their narrative. As ridiculous as that sounds.
Also, people in America these days love to feed into conspiracy theories and love to hate law enforcement. The crazier it is the more they want to believe. There's also a lot of misogyny in this country which makes it hard for a female judge to be firm without people calling her names and questioning her judgment. Finally, many people have made theories that they are married to and will never see it differently. People kinda suck.
Oh imo there's more bombshells coming that even GH has no knowledge of.
I think it was targeted and Libby was the target. He was also sadly blessed with an incredibly lucky set of circumstances that lined up exactly what he wanted. Unbelievable but true in my opinion. Like you've said before, there could still be a connection between Kline and Allen, but they just can't prove it.
I've said the same thing for years Bridget.. glad someone else believes this too... Now I don't feel like a lost ball in high weeds! (Apologies for the southern saying! )😂
Doug Carter is very invested in this case and he is committed to police work that contributes to a successful prosecution. He is sold on Richard Allen. He knows what they’ve got and stands behind it. This helps convince me.
Doug Carter is invested in himself. If he was committed to the case, he would have made sure that they were investigating the details of ALL the people who were there that day. Should have been solved YEARS AGO. Would have been solved if their focus was solving the case, instead of getting dolled up for their media appearance.
Wasn't he also adamant about there being more than one suspect. It seems that theory just kinda faded away.
Your always on top of it, in the right way, Gray!
I would like to know why Richard Allen’s wife abruptly ended his confession phone call. It doesn’t look good on her as a person. I like Gray’s thought provoking questions.
They know their conservations are being recorded by the prison so she hung up the phone.
If she hung up the phone because she knew it was being recorded, she was protecting her husband vs protecting justice. It doesn’t look good on her as a person.
I'd be very interested to see video from inside CVS to see RA's behavior around the time before & after he murdered.
Or from coworkers
If Keegan Kline and Richard Allen had nothing to do with each other its either one of the greatest coincidences in true crime history or the world is a lot more awful of a place than we think it is.
Great stream as always sir 😎. If the game Odin is involved i've always suspected that R.Allen met K.Kline on the free mobile app Odin game. Reviewing the symbols used in the game, an F means: game time reset. (an F was allegedly painted on a tree by the girls bodies) Why murder the girls? Could've been a "battle" in the game or a "reward". Agreed, can't help but notice how similar RA's daughter is to Libby and the location of that photo.
From the fact that RA redressed Abby, taking care of her body, she was most likely RA's target. Also, her underwear and a sock were missing from the crime scene
Wasn't it libby's underwear and sock missing?
I heard one of Libby's shoes was found in the water and one was not fond at all ..
@@HumanimalChannel there was underwear found in the creek. It was a bug size and probably didn't fit Abby
With all due respect, I would think it's just the opposite. Because the murderer redressed Abby but didn't Libby, leaving Libby naked...and also doing the most damage physically to Libby, that Libby would have definitely been the target, and Abby was just there as collateral damage, sadly. Also, Libby was the one more endowed and the one who corresponded with the Anthony_shots profile all that weekend and that Monday morning about 8 am. I think the girls tried to make a run for it at the creek but they didn't escape, and because of that, the murderer realized that he wasn't going to get them to the car and outta there, which is really I personally think he was originally going to do. I don't think the original plan was to murder 2 girls on someone else's property during the daytime hours where anybody could have just happened to walk by and seen him or heard the girls scream. I think, after the struggle crossing the creek, he then looked around and saw nobody was around, saw his opportunity and decided to just do it there and take his chances. Sadly, he got away with it...well, until now. We'll see.
Allen's build compared to Bridge Guy's build... his gait... his clothing and facial features... the fact that he admitted he was there at the right time and the right place wearing those clothes and had been encountered by others on that day during that timeframe... I cannot conceive that anyone can think it is anyone else. And now those new photos, Gray, of Allen's daughter and her quite startling resemblance to Libby. It chills my what those girls went through, the terror and the dread, and Libby having the amazing presence of mind to film this strange guy heading too quickly and purposefully towards them. Bless you, Libby and Abby, we are all praying for justice for you both and your families. Thank you Gray from Melbourne, Australia for continuing to keep this case front and centre.
Yep. He only admitted he was there wearing those clothes because he knew he had been seen on his way to the bridge and it would look suspicious if he denied it later if called out on it. OK to admit it because that sighting doesn't prove anything since it was a distance away from the murders, EXCEPT he had no idea Libby was recording him when he closed in for the abduction and murders. Remember, that same recording of bridge guy closing in has Abby or Libby saying "he's got a gun," so obviously RA is bridge guy and is the killer. It boggles the mind that they didn't realize someone who put themselves near the crime scene near the time of the slayings also admitted wearing the same clothes as bridge guy until years later.
@@dmger14a The killer(s) left Libby's phone on purpose though. They left her phone with the video on it in a shoe under Abby's body. Police told us their bodies were "moved and staged." Leaving the phone was on purpose but I don't know why.
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Yes, can’t understand why he would do that, given that the footage implicates himself.
I think there is a possibility that they were targeted. Libby may have been the initial target. Imo RA is quilty of the crime. Thanks Gray for making this video and the explanations you gave as to how things may have happened.
Apparently the person sighted was just "muddy", not actually "bloody".
People seem to think it’s a crazy coincidence for RA to be there on that day with Libby and Abby. I bet he had been stalking the bridge for years. I wonder if law enforcement has looked into establishing a pattern of him being in that park.
Its odd how RAs daughter looks so much like Libby back then. I thought it was her on the bed.
Does anyone find RA’s “looking at fish” as a reason for being on the bridge, comical? Who goes to look at fish from a bridge?
Also, does anyone think that this was his first crime?
I thought the same. At his age, he must have committed other crimes and not been caught. His reason for being there is as ridiculous as Koberger's star gazing B.S. excuse!
His car should have been caught on the camera twice then.
Not if he went out the other way. That's why I don't think it was premeditated. I'm sure he knew the camera was on that building and didn't want to pass it after the crime. Going, was one thing, but after the fact, he didn't want to pass it.
I think the daughter gave the tip
Absolutely they were targeted. I think there is a connection between KK and RA, and it has not been disclosed
I think LE just took a fresh look at all the tips on Feb 13 and 14th. That's what they do when they go back to a "cold" case.
I agree. New detectives, new eyes on the case.
RA IS BRIDGE GUY! FFS! I am beginning to hate defense attorneys especially regarding Delphi and the Karen Read trial. I just want to throw up
The same people that don't consider the defense team here are simply running a case (nit desperately defending an innocent man) are the same ones who are certain Karen Read has been set up.
@@HumanimalChannel Your comment really makes no sense, but party on
The work you do and have done on other cases seems to be good just not this case nothing you say is even remotely correct or even worth listening to just the same ol stupid crap all based on the PCA thats almost all been discredited and proven to be lies so you should just stick to the other cases you cover like the maddie soto case props on your work on that case This case not your strong suite
@@Beezojones That sixth grade education you have doesn't seem to be paying off for you.
Can't help but wonder if the man who appeared "muddy and bloody" walking along the road was also caught on camera by the Hoosier Harvestore... 🤔 It's the same road
Great mapping and explanation of his movements.
I believe RA is bridge guy the only thing I'm hung up on is if there was another involved with him but I would think that would've come out by now
I have wondered if they found something about RA on the Yubo-Paris trip. They made a big deal of it and then no more said but arrested him a few months later.
Maybe since it was right before the sheriff election they put a couple people on the case to go back and review everything.
I think it's common to start fresh and look at all the evidence again when they hit a dead end for so long and maybe that's when they put the pieces together, and believe that RA said he was there wearing those clothes early on and before the bridge guy video was released. I do believe the witness who saw him leaving muddy and bloody along the road is good supportive evidence because it links the same RA bridge guy to the aftermath and therefore definitively show he's the killer so he can't somehow hail mary argue that yes, he's bridge guy but didn't do it because he went off to hunt mushrooms after telling them to go down the hill - holding them at gunpoint, mind you!.
Kline says he was to meet Libby that day and she did'nt turn up - where? The bridge the trails or somewhere else? Was he there in the area hanging around when Allen showed up, and the girls were there? Did he see anything etc, or was he to meet Libby elsewhere? I can never get to the bottom of this?
Although the defense lawyers are trying to ruin the jury pool, it would take a truly terrible person to sit in a trial, see the family, see the crime photos and decide to vote against conviction when logic would guide a thinking, feeling person towards a conviction. I live in a place where one must be a non-felon who is registered to vote in order to serve on a jury. Hopefully, this is true in Indiana as well, and such conditions will cull out psychopaths from the jury pool. Fun sidebar, the 5-7% of people who gravitate toward antisocial conspiracy theories have more narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies.
If RA hadn’t admitted to being on the bridge that day, would this case remain unsolved?
Defense attorneys are definitely nasty creatures but not nasty enough to tell him to go ahead and fake insanity and make more confessions. That allegation you made Gray, is absurd.
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Grey i got a question does Cvs have a picture of him because he was a tech they should but i dont know where too look. Like the higher up people do
Facts & research don’t change, RA appearance has dramatically changed since he got locked up. That was like the LISK serial killer was caught, on information they had from the beginning of the case and they reviewed it.
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What do I think? I think I will wait and let the 12+ judges decide after diligently examining the Accuser's burden of proof and diligently examine the accused.
I don't know how defence attorneys can live with themselves when they know so much evidence. Their families must be so ashamed
A thought about daughter's picture wearing shirt and on the bridge..could it be she had feeling it was him and did those pictures on purpose to see his reaction?..just my personal thoughts 🤔
The police alluded to multiple offenders. What happened to that?
They better have more than junk science on an unspent bullet bc if this was all I was presented with as a juror at trial, I wouldn’t be able to convict.
There's literally a video of him telling the girls to go down the hill shortly before they died. Conveniently the Richard defenders keep ignoring that video exists, I wonder why
I think Abby and Libby were targeted. I think there is a connection with the Anthony Shots account but LE cannot prove it.
I agree. Just too much of a coincidence, but LE can't prove it. I think Libby might have been the target and Abby, her best friend, just came along as support when the young boy model, or who they thought was him, said that Monday morning that he wanted to meet Libby at the old railroad. Remember, this wasn't a park or anything, so one would have to know about it or live there to know that it even existed.
He's a murder!!
I’ve often wondered if Libby taking college courses had something to do with it? I don’t know why.
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The bullet is questionable. The science is not solid and it was apparently 2 inches underground. Could he have bought the gun from someone who used it over there?
Allen is 5'4". That doesn't jive with descriptions or the video.
I thought a pharmacy tech requires a license?
i worked in a kmart rx where anyone not the actual phD was just referred to as a tech, regardless of their actual training. their name badges showed if they were degreed or not. so, i have never put much stock if he was an actual tech until the trial.
I think it varies by state
Is there another way to get to the place they were abducted from? It seems weird to kill two little girls like that and let so many people see you.
Down the hill to the private drive, then circle around to the back of the cemetery would be one way. It's odd he parked so far away. It's odd that he kept the same car, the same gun, the same ammo, a blue jacket, and told them he was out of platform 1, etc. He didn't try to get rid of any evidence.