Japanese Navy Was Two Years Behind The United States Navy (Ep.7)

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  • In this video series, we delve into the gripping narrative of "Battle of Midway" by John Parshall and Anthony Tully. Join us as we explore the intricacies of one of the most significant naval battles in history, offering insights and analysis inspired by their meticulous research and unparalleled expertise. 📘 Get your copy of "Shattered Sword" by John Parshall and Anthony Tully: [www.amazon.com...]
    (Battle of Midway from Japanese Perspective , Part 7 ) Watch our video" Japanese Navy Was Two Years Behind The United States Navy (Ep.7)" and Dive into the pivotal Battle of Midway like never before with our exclusive video series on WW2 Tales. Experience this crucial WWII confrontation from the Japanese perspective, offering a fresh and detailed exploration that challenges long-standing narratives. With in-depth analysis and insights drawn from Japanese primary sources, this series shines a light on the strategic decisions, heroic acts, and unforeseen challenges faced by the Japanese forces. Uncover the truths that have been overshadowed by previous Western accounts and understand how this monumental battle turned the tide of the Pacific War. Whether you're a history enthusiast or a curious learner, these videos promise to bring you a closer, more authentic view of one of history's most famous battles. Join us on a journey of discovery and reevaluation that will change how you see the Battle of Midway.
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  • @WW2Tales
    @WW2Tales  6 месяцев назад +17

    Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Part 7 of battle of midway from Japanese Perspective , Image used in this video is of Sōryū, which was an aircraft carrier built for the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) during the mid-1930s.Sōryū and three other carriers of the 1st Air Fleet (Kidō Butai) participated in the Battle of Midway in June 1942. After bombarding American forces on Midway Atoll, the carriers were attacked by aircraft from the island and the carriers Enterprise, Hornet, and Yorktown. Dive bombers from Yorktown crippled Sōryū and set her afire. Japanese destroyers rescued the survivors but the ship could not be salvaged and was ordered to be scuttled so as to allow her attendant destroyers to be released for further operations. She sank with the loss of 711 officers and enlisted men of the 1,103 aboard. The loss of Sōryū and three other IJN carriers at Midway was a crucial strategic defeat for Japan and contributed significantly to the Allies' ultimate victory in the Pacific.
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    • @dmreturns6485
      @dmreturns6485 6 месяцев назад +1

      So what is the title of the book? Who is the author?

    • @kentfredenberger615
      @kentfredenberger615 5 месяцев назад

      Superb and fascinating! Thank you. 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

    • @ashantijames1497
      @ashantijames1497 4 месяца назад

      I drddddeeeehggfrssejgrttrtga😅

  • @estern001
    @estern001 6 месяцев назад +44

    Thank you! I spent 12 years of my life as an aircraft mechanic in the US Navy, I can see and smell and feel walking on the hangar deck. I can see drop tanks in the overhead.

    • @csonracsonra9962
      @csonracsonra9962 6 месяцев назад +3

      Hopefully you pulled the other 8 years elsewhere so you could retire. Thanks for your service!

    • @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344
      @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344 6 месяцев назад

      I was a medic in the 3ID, drove a M113 and that motor pool smell is unique. Haven't smelled it since 1991. In some ways I miss it.

    • @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344
      @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not a mechanic but did learn some things from the M113. I slept it in when I was in Iraq. Best sleep I ever had.

    • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
      @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 4 месяца назад

      What does this have to do with the IJN? Get a Bot blog!

    • @Michaeldavis-il6od
      @Michaeldavis-il6od 3 месяца назад

  • @pauljohansen8043
    @pauljohansen8043 6 месяцев назад +9

    I was never in the military. My dad was in the occupation forces in Japan. I know this is boring but people seem to want to tell their story.or someone elses😂

    • @johnflesner8086
      @johnflesner8086 6 месяцев назад +1

      My dad was a flight engineer on B-17s in ww2

  • @richardthornhill4630
    @richardthornhill4630 6 месяцев назад +17

    Midway, when the Japanese ships hit the sandbar of reality.

    • @vanzell1912
      @vanzell1912 6 месяцев назад +2

      I like it😂

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 5 месяцев назад

      More like when Yorktown and Enterprise barely pulled off the flukiest, completely unplanned, but perfectly executed joint attack ever and Hornet did the infamous "Flight to Nowhere" losing all her fighters and torpedo bombers and even some bombers (that nobody wants to ever talk about because it makes Mark Mitscher and Nimitz look bad) making the battle 4 IJN carriers versus 2 USN carriers.

    • @warfarenotwarfair5655
      @warfarenotwarfair5655 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@nogoodnameleftDon't be butt hurt because the evil Japanese military was defeated 😂

  • @joechang8696
    @joechang8696 6 месяцев назад +5

    in late 40-41, while Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was in effect, Japan sent an Army and Navy delegation to Germany via the trans-Siberian rail. This delegation was widely reported in the press, with many evening dinner parties. They were shown everything they wanted to see, everything except radar. Yamashita led the Army delegation. One day, his driver got lost and ended up at a radar facility. The director had read of the Japanese delegation being feted by Berlin elites, assumed it was authorized and showed him everything. As time pass into late spring? 41, the German liaison hinted that it might be time to go home. Yamashita took the hint. The IJN admiral was having a grand time and did not. As his train passed through Moscow, Stalin met him, hugged? and said the Soviet Union and Japan must always be friends.
    Is there any indication the Japanese army was ahead of their navy in radar?

  • @hydroplaneing
    @hydroplaneing 5 месяцев назад +8

    A documentary about radar ended with the words: “The atomic bomb may have ended the war, but radar won it.” We see this play out again in this episode.

  • @rickrudd
    @rickrudd 6 месяцев назад +7

    I'm relatively childish, because I keep chuckling at "Hear-You and Saw-You."

  • @Archie2c
    @Archie2c 6 месяцев назад +6

    Americans developed mini tractors to tow the planes some of the time hand pushing still happening but a little towing did wonders.

  • @brianmacadam4793
    @brianmacadam4793 6 месяцев назад +4

    Logistics isn't just the fuel, and food, and ammunition, and the countless other widgets needed to keep an army functioning.
    The support personel were every bit as important as the physical supplies, and maybe MORE difficult to replace.
    Was it just happenstance that Germany and Japan paid small heed to the importance of logistics, or was this "short view" of war as opposed to the British "long view which could have resulted from the time of "Empire".
    I wonder.

    • @lewis7315
      @lewis7315 6 месяцев назад +3

      just like in 1914, everyone thought it would be a short war. Actually, Hitler did not expect the allies to go to war over his Poland invasion.

    • @halojump123
      @halojump123 Месяц назад

      The Germans and the Japanese grossly underestimated the industrial might of the U.S. In reality the U.S had not reached its peak out put as the War was coming to an end.

  • @Cbcw76
    @Cbcw76 6 месяцев назад +12

    Thanks for mentioning those mechanics. In HP Willmott's books (which are rare catalogs of stats and tables from the few surviving Japanese war records), he mentioned that, at this time in the war, EVERYONE wanted to be 'in combat'. Training personnel - professors, engine and aircraft designers and the true expert engineers - had begged to join the carriers. These mostly died with the carriers, and thus castrated Japan's ability to have experienced teachers and engineers. In a country where "1600 mechanics" might be half of the total population, and most teachers and professors at-sea all due to propogandized hype, these were some of the most impactful losses. As island bases grew, the Japanese Army sent even more experienced teachers, mechanics and engineers to those bases because they had no choice: send the first-line experts, leave no one behind for quality training. OR manufacturing.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 Месяц назад +1

      there was no system in place to replace battle losses. Simple as that

    • @Cbcw76
      @Cbcw76 Месяц назад

      @@johnhallett5846 Or ship-building... or perhaps worse, repair facilities. Engine repairs. The Allies visited ports and found hundreds of vessels that could not fire up engines because of lack of parts and lack of skilled workers. So many (all?) of the workers were 'propogandized' off into the island warfare instead of using their expertise (??) as a needed war effort. Three quarters of the homeland airplanes were considered unflyable by Allied visitors who surveyed Japan's materiel. "We have thousands" meant "we might be able to fly 100." But Japanese leaders never meant to win - they started the war working for a 'draw' and ignored all of their experts about materiel readiness.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 Месяц назад

      @@Cbcw76 unflyable but might take off was all the Japanese leadership cared about. You will never see anything that leadership did that indicated the lives of their soldiers sailors and airman concerned them at al. As I said logistics was not something that they ever thought about at all. Even as they had to use the Yamato and Musashi as floating oil storage tanks. There are so many examples of that all over.

    • @Cbcw76
      @Cbcw76 Месяц назад

      @@johnhallett5846 Agreed. For 30 years of reading, I never have seen ONE THING that indicated the Japanese Leadership (not Hirohito but the real leaders, the Big 6) cared ONE THING about their citizens (or troops, outside of those sitting at that Big Table). I often read about "tears they wept" but those only come from repeating internal logs, or from observers who aren't trustworthy 'reporters'. The whole "We Love Our Emperor" is untruthful, I believe - "We love to pretend, we ove to fake-show" but none of them LIKED Hirohito as some where babysitters for the child, they saw him as a weak child that they could - and did - push around, lie to, deceive. Heck, they didn't disclose the truth about Midway EVER - it was 6 months before the ship-losses were described, NOT the personnel. Hirohito could smell burning Tokyo after March 9-10 but it was over two weeks before they 'let him out' to see for himself and he was angry. But cloaked that behind his "traditional robes of non-action".

    • @Cbcw76
      @Cbcw76 Месяц назад

      @@johnhallett5846 HP Willmott's books are often 'catalogs' from the immediate post-war 'surveys' and the years' later research tables. Japan's creation of cottage industry metalurgy had perhaps 3 dozen suppliers of nuts and bolts for aircraft, NONE were the same. Out on island bases, they found 40 nonfunctional planes with all varieties of bolts and screws, none of which were matching. And according to interviews in the late '50s, Japanese air crews (maint and pilots) talked about having planes fall apart on runways, just off the runways or at sea within eyesight of the airstrips.
      Stranger stiil... every air force claimed exaggerated 'kills' due to 2-3 pilots shooting at the same plane as it fell to earth. Usually, it was a factor of 8 or more. The post-combat debriefs requires base personnel to slash American kills by a factor of 4. Still they would come up with 100 kills when all pilots agreed "We saw at least 30." Hmmm...
      But all air forces did this. Succumbed to this.
      Yet, on thing all air forces did reflect was accurate losses of their own aircraft. So, when Japan said, "We lost 80", they had 80 pilots and/or planes that were no longer available.
      Willmott discovered that all of Japan's factual losses was still greater than ALL of the Americans' claims! This was the only theater where such a thing occurred. Japanese island vets admitted, "When planes were lost due to maint failures, we claimed those were lost in combat because the pilots received posthumous promotions and their families received greater benefits."

  • @forrestsory1893
    @forrestsory1893 5 месяцев назад +5

    Ex USN submarine sailor here this is so detailed i feel like I'm on the ship.

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  5 месяцев назад

      @forrestsory1893 very kind of you Sir

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 4 месяца назад +2

    How is IJN behind USN. Perhaps in 44!

  • @amplify1802
    @amplify1802 16 дней назад +1

    This is a great take on your average WWII documentary, I can't stop listening to them. So very introspective and personal I've grown so tired of the rehashing of these battles from an historians stand point.

  • @lewis7315
    @lewis7315 6 месяцев назад +4

    so, the aircraft had to be brought back below decks to be refueled and rearmed. no wonder it took far too long to do this at Midway.

  • @MrRlb183
    @MrRlb183 6 месяцев назад +4

    91 octane for starting up. O.K. then what octane did they use for flight?

  • @jrwaters31
    @jrwaters31 6 месяцев назад +9

    The Royal Navy aircraft carriers had Armoured flight decks 3" thick with 4.5" on the sides.
    Makes you think again as to how many aircraft they could carry.
    Thank you America you were "late" but we would have been in dire straights without you.
    🇬🇧🇺🇲🇬🇧

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 6 месяцев назад +3

      Those carriers were slow and carried a fraction of the planes, so were not suitable for offensive missions in the vast Pacific. British carriers were designed to fight off Europe where aircraft from land bases could attack them frequently.

    • @MrChiangching
      @MrChiangching 6 месяцев назад +3

      We should never got into the war you started.

    • @denvan3143
      @denvan3143 5 месяцев назад +2

      We were “late” to two world wars we didn’t start? We crossed an ocean to die in your wars, sorry if we didn’t do it on your timetable.
      Ask yourself this: if the world war have been fought on the continent of the Americas, would you have sent your sons to fight on our shores, die on our soil - and having done it once and receiving your sons back, missing arms, legs, or in boxes would you have wanted to do it a second time?

    • @johnboomerboy3042
      @johnboomerboy3042 5 месяцев назад

      @@denvan3143Your obnoxious question is based on a false proposition. Hitler declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941.
      But the United States was already under assault by Hitler via our antisemitic geniuses like Henry Ford and Thomas Edison who funded the resurrection of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” in 1919. Edison was in Hell before the fruit of his labor was manifested in Europe. But Ford was part of the cabal working with Hitler’s Germany. Ford Motor Company was partnered with Volkswagen in the ‘30’s. When the Nazi’s approached Rockefeller to join their 5th column, he informed Franklin Roosevelt. Check out William Stephenson’s “Man Called Intrepid” to see the depth of the web Hitler was weaving. Hitler was a threat to America. But the United States did not declare war on Hitler in 1939. Hitler declared war on the United States in 1941
      .
      The “Protocols …” are again being circulated by Islamists on American college campuses. Also, if you are a Christian, see what God has to say to those who hate the Jews in Genesis 12:31. When He speaks of “…these, the least of My brethren …” in Matthew 25:40, remember Christ is a Jew.

    • @jrwaters31
      @jrwaters31 5 месяцев назад +1

      Very true we owe you a debt of honor, but then why did you come at all ?
      As to if we would try to help you, its a bit harder for us 65m to help 350m. Though I'm sure our old empire, commonwealth would attempt to help. I imagine that something like lendlease when apparently we nearly bankrupted ourselves paying for the industrial might of America necessary to keep our freedom & probably yours !

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 5 месяцев назад +8

    I have been a WW ll historian since 1962 and really appreciate the details and accuracy of your report. Never heard such historical accuracy. I got my interest in WW ll history in the Pacific because my Dad was a TBM Avenger pilot in Night Torpedo Squadron 90 on the USS Enterprise CV-6 1944-1945. Well done!

    • @halojump123
      @halojump123 Месяц назад

      CV(N)6…N for Night time attack.

    • @halojump123
      @halojump123 Месяц назад

      The N was add before Nuclear War ships existed.

    • @halojump123
      @halojump123 Месяц назад

      Sailing on 24 December for the Philippines, Enterprise carried an air group specially trained in night carrier operations; as the only carrier capable of night operations, it left Oahu with its hull code changed from CV to CV(N), the "N" representing "Night".[33][34] it joined TG 38.5 and swept the waters north of Luzon and of the South China Sea during January 1945, striking shore targets and shipping from Formosa to Indo-China including an attack on Macau.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 6 месяцев назад +9

    Enclosing the Hanger bay must have been a fire hazard. All those flammable vapors must have lingered and became noxious. Thank you for explaining the vastly different methods of the IJN. Not better or worse, just different.

    • @bucky5869
      @bucky5869 6 месяцев назад +5

      True, unless ventilation was installed.

    • @erichughes284
      @erichughes284 6 месяцев назад +3

      They had a ventilation system but it still seemed dangerous

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 6 месяцев назад +4

      The Japanese did not take damage control or defense seriously at all, nor recon. They were all attack attack attack.

    • @huckleberryoutfitters7051
      @huckleberryoutfitters7051 5 месяцев назад +4

      It wasn’t just the poor ventilation that was a problem. With the hangars being fully enclosed, explosions on the hangar deck were much more devastating since the blast waves had nowhere to go. This undoubtedly multiplied their casualties at Midway and made it easier to sink their carriers

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 4 месяца назад +1

      The Kaga, in particular, demonstrated the flaw in this approach

  • @Theearthtraveler
    @Theearthtraveler 6 месяцев назад +5

    This video provides a great deal of insight and detail!

  • @Dav1Gv
    @Dav1Gv 6 месяцев назад +4

    Interesting. Must say the commentary does seem to be getting better but for 'one thousand' as a time read 'ten hundred'.

  • @f430ferrari5
    @f430ferrari5 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why the misleading title.
    In reality, the US was 2 years behind Japan in mid 1942.
    IJN had a massive vessel advantage at Midway. They blew it.
    Some of the advantage was due to the US fighting two wars.
    The US population was 133 million and most on the east coast. Split them in half because of two wars and Japan had 73 million.
    The US didn’t even have many fleet oilers in 1942 which is why the battleships were not operational plenty of times.
    Junk torpedos. Obsolete torpedo planes. Lack of armor piercing bombs.
    It’s no wonder the war lasted until August 1945.

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  4 месяца назад

      Sir this title is taken from excerpts,these are author's views

    • @f430ferrari5
      @f430ferrari5 4 месяца назад

      @@WW2Tales understood but you share them with no hesitation. 😂
      You don’t dispute any of my points because they are all true.
      I never really understand the approach you and other channels take related to the US situation in 1942. The US was in deep doo doo. Almost bit off more than they can chew.
      To not highlight how difficult things were for the US downgrades the intestinal fortitude of the USA and the men who fought during this time frame.
      Who cares about 1944-45. It was much easier for the US.
      The US was smart to buy itself enough time in 1942 to extend the Pacific war out to ensure ultimate victory.
      And it’s more about simply telling the truth. Why do you focus on misleading information vs telling the truth.
      I understand at times the truth isn’t popular and you wouldn’t get as many views but who knows maybe many would like to see a different perspective.
      Anyhow, appreciate the response. Thanks.

    • @iansneddon2956
      @iansneddon2956 4 месяца назад +1

      @@f430ferrari5 Deep doo doo is a bit much. They were behind in re-armament and the attack at Pearl Harbor did remove much of US ability to project power. Which meant no option to reinforce the Philippines with a fleet. So they lost the Philippines. And some other islands.
      Maybe they would have lost Midway too, but this is irrelevant for the outcome of the war. USA was not going to be defeated and Japan was counting on them wanting to give up after receiving a bloody nose. Not likely after the surprise attack.
      US shipbuilding was on the East Coast beyond the reach of the Japanese. They could not successfully invade mainland USA. They could not slow down the construction of the Essex class carriers and Iowa class battleships already under construction before the war, or the new ones being started. They couldn't slow down the training of new American pilots, or the more advanced aircraft already under development (the F6F and the F4U). It is unlikely they could have invaded and occupied Hawaii. They could have carved out more of the Pacific, but could not hold it against the force that was going to come at some point anyway.
      Japan had an advantage in time before the American Strength would be built up, and they used that time fairly well, but ran into their limits.
      The advantage in number of ships at Midway was meaningless. They couldn't force the American carriers into a surface battle, and had to withdraw once their carriers were gone. And there wasn't that much difference in the size of air wings. Japan's advantage was in a higher level of training and experience but they also had a disadvantage as the airstrip at Midway remained operational and the sporadic arrivals of aircraft from Midway attacking the fleet restricted the Japanese carriers flight operations. The decision to break orders and equip all aircraft for ground attack was sensible on the assumption that it would take time before the American carriers arrived and they needed to knock out Midway first. The breaking of Japan's naval codes made a huge difference in the battle, but also that they were minus 2 carriers after Coral Sea.
      But even if they succeeded at Midway and maybe they manage to leverage this into taking Australia out of the war.... it would just mean a few years longer before American power dislodged them. There isn't a scenario where you don't end up with several massive fleet carriers projecting power out into the Pacific by 1944. Japan could only hope to make it more and more difficult or increase the distance this power needed to push them back.
      Japan was also stuck in a land war in China that occupied a lot of their manpower and resources, as did their need to occupy SE Asia running into war with UK, Australia and Canada. Other nations were splitting their forces between Europe and the Pacific war, and Japan was stuck in their own two front war too.
      Much like Germany having to invade USSR, Japan was pretty much forced into war with USA due to the oil embargo and economic sanctions. And like Germany they didn't have a good strategy on how this war would be won. Expecting to dazzle your enemies with your magnificence such that they just give up isn't much of a plan.

  • @erichughes284
    @erichughes284 6 месяцев назад +4

    The Japanese navy and pilots were very well trained and professional.Thank god we broke their code and were superior in intelligence

    • @denvan3143
      @denvan3143 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Japanese imperial forces lost the experience and technological advantage they had early on. Their top of the line fighters became obsolete in only a few years as the new American fighters came online. Additionally, the Japanese used their most skilled and professional pilots up in battle. By comparison, America rotated top ace pilots back to the US to train the next generation of pilots. there’s also the factor of petroleum: as fuel became harder and harder for the Japanese to come by they had less gas for training new pilots. Japanese flight trainees had between 300 and 400 hours of training, American pilots had between 500 and 800 hours of training. The best US pilots were combat instructors, the best Japanese pilots were dead.

  • @Brightstarlivesteam
    @Brightstarlivesteam 6 месяцев назад +3

    7.7mm is equivalent to the UK 303 ammunition.

  • @marvinnelson5673
    @marvinnelson5673 4 месяца назад +1

    America, even with breaking IJN codes, were very lucky, as their attack was uncoordinated, and lucky that American losses werent higher, whether regarding airmen, or naval vessels.
    Pivotal, at this juncture of the pacific war, midway was yet a high stakes gamble, as the US naval fleet carrier groups and tactics were a fledgling operational organization without todays experiences, tactics, and strategies derived from experience, that the japanese had honed into finer detail regarding operations.
    America lacked operational coordination as to flight times, and tactics used against naval shipping.
    Example: unescorted torepodo planes do not attack in the first wave.
    Imagine if the dive bombers hadn't followed a ijn destroyer that had given up on attacking an american sub.
    If they hadnt followed this ijn destroy back towards the main ijn fleet, so low on fuel, most commanders wouldve turned back towards the safety of their fleey carriers and no dive bomber would've attacked in the battle that day!
    This one instance couldve delayed the inevitable by years!

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 4 месяца назад

      Japan had the same level of experience in carrier vs carrier battles as the USN, Coral Sea, and learned nothing.
      USN had radar, superior AA and vastly superior damage control.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 6 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for another episode.

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  6 месяцев назад

      @sgt.grinch3299 Dear Sir , we love to see you every single day on our channel 🙏

  • @karlheinzvonkroemann2217
    @karlheinzvonkroemann2217 4 месяца назад +1

    Japan was a fourth rate industrial power in 1941. Their navy was excellent at the time though. The USA would have defeated Japan sooner or later but early on Japan lost Midway and 4 CVs. Code breaking and pure luck decided that battle.

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 4 месяца назад +1

      Victory at that level required more than code breaking and luck.

  • @timothywilliams1359
    @timothywilliams1359 6 месяцев назад +6

    To hear this narration, you would think the Japanese had won at Midway. The author is delusional about how much better and more professional the Japanese pilots, air crews, and sailors were than the Americans. In fact, by the time of Midway, the Japanese were functioning at a very low level of proficiency. Their losses were already becoming unsustainable.

    • @angusbauman7887
      @angusbauman7887 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yamatoe's 6 months prediction was up!

    • @CitiesTurnedToDust
      @CitiesTurnedToDust 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's not when I picked up on it. It seemed to me that the narration show the Japanese running a very messed up operation at Midway, amd contrary to what I had always heard, the American victory sounds a lot more inevitable based on this information.

    • @ireknijak
      @ireknijak 5 месяцев назад

      Normally Americans Has no chance where weeker

    • @betterlatethannever7337
      @betterlatethannever7337 Месяц назад

      Some things the Japanese did very well. They had prepared for this war for years. In some ways at the outset they were better trained and equipped (naval warfare at night, the Zero, long lance torpedos, etc.). They were more experienced from their war in China, the attack on Pearl Harbor. and their campaigns through southeast Asia and the Central Pacific similar to how at the outset the Germans in North Africa were more experienced.
      These advantages, however, were transient.
      The narrator explains in later podcasts in this series how the strategic and tactical thinking of the Japanese was incomplete and contributed to their defeat at Midway.
      My dad was in the Pacific. He said the Japanese were formidable opponents, and deserved our respect.

  • @nogoodnameleft
    @nogoodnameleft 5 месяцев назад +2

    We all can talk about how Japan was fighting against only 15% of the U.S. military in WWII but Japan's navy was a helluva lot better than all the navies in the world except the USA and UK and in fact her carriers would have wiped out the Royal Navy's carriers easily. The Royal Navy primarily fought against German U-boats and an Italian Navy that shockingly performed better in reality than they should have on paper, helping to sink numerous Royal Navy ships and greatly prolonging WWII by making the Mediterranean impossible for the British to control until late 1943.

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 5 месяцев назад

      The Japanese navy was very heavily influenced by the British Navy, both in training and equipment from around 1900 to the early 1930s So it is no surprise that they jumped out the blocks in WW2 the way they did. When the British were doing their long term planning, they never expected to be fighting the Japanese. They expected it to be any combination of two European powers, but to have two European enemies and a third in Asia left them very flat footed.

  • @jcole4
    @jcole4 4 месяца назад

    They weren’t 2 years behind on 12/7/41. The US had many times the industrial potential than Japan. They developed radar but the old Admirals thought it was cheating, not authentic traditional war fighting. In many ways Japan compared to the South, unprepared. They should have sent the third wave on the 7th. FDR and the Congress passed a huge spending bill for our Navy in ‘40, the first ships with radar and the newer Battleships debuted during the long Guadalcanal campaign with the new anti-aircraft cruisers wiping out most of their aircraft and the last of great pilots. Their fate was set in the fall of ‘42. The ongoing conflict between the IPN and Japan’s army really killed their prospects for victory. The Doolittle Raid freaked them out and they lost their cool headed planning and became ‘stupid’. Great series!

  • @Victrola777
    @Victrola777 5 месяцев назад +2

    How could they possibly be 2 years behind the US, when they kicked our butts for the first two years of the war ?

    • @forrestsory1893
      @forrestsory1893 5 месяцев назад

      Surprise, peace time malaze, piss poor combat tactics. Japanese combat experience in China.

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@forrestsory1893 Also the fact the US signed the London Naval treaty of 1936 and the Japanese did not. Which allowed them to be able to design ships for a purpose rather than fitting into the limits of the treaty.

    • @forrestsory1893
      @forrestsory1893 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@glenchapman3899 I wish I could say that was a reason buttttttt. US carriers carried more planes. The US Navy incorporated RADAR into it's gunnery and early warning. Better sonar. Better damage control training. The ships built under treaty regulations were built well in some cases built better than Japanese ships. They just did a better job as an attack force until we started reading their Mail. And building a lot more ships and planes. The replacements were vastly improved from the original. Naval tactics improved as well.

    • @drkrbrown
      @drkrbrown 5 месяцев назад

      Technically they surprised our navy at pearl (12-7) and lost superiority at midway (6-5) which was 6 months and they had a superior ship lauch fighter that america had to catch up with. They didn't kick our butt for long, it was a heavy weight fight after a sucker-punch.

    • @forrestsory1893
      @forrestsory1893 5 месяцев назад

      @@drkrbrown good analogy

  • @MyRealName148
    @MyRealName148 5 месяцев назад +2

    Your channel is great. The commercials make it unbearable

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  5 месяцев назад

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  • @johnhallett5846
    @johnhallett5846 Месяц назад

    The IJN Carrier Air Groups as of December 7, 1941 were the best group of pilots and crews in the world. One year later they were gone. And no one to replace them.

  • @davidsmith7372
    @davidsmith7372 6 месяцев назад +5

    Doing my small part for the algorithm.

    • @WW2Tales
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    • @davidsmith7372
      @davidsmith7372 6 месяцев назад +3

      @WW2Tales I really am pulling for you to do well. I appreciate your time . I know my comments are not insightful. However I am not sure the algorithm cares . I try to post something hoping in some small way it helps.

    • @Jim_maco
      @Jim_maco 6 месяцев назад +2

      I do the same

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      @Jim_maco Dear Sir we really appreciate your kind support for our channel

  • @nosaltadded2530
    @nosaltadded2530 6 месяцев назад +3

    At 1:53-55. How do you "unroll' a metal hose?

    • @angusbauman7887
      @angusbauman7887 6 месяцев назад +3

      Rubber hose with a braided aluminium outer sheath. Still used today.

    • @brucelytle1144
      @brucelytle1144 6 месяцев назад +3

      Carefully! 😊

  • @erichvonmanstein6876
    @erichvonmanstein6876 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is all a question of when. When were they behind by 2 years because at the beginning of the war they were the best navy in the world in the least in the pacific over America, Britain, and anybody else.

  • @aldonfroelick7392
    @aldonfroelick7392 6 месяцев назад +3

    Positive comment.

    • @rickrudd
      @rickrudd 6 месяцев назад +1

      You said it man... You said it.

  • @f.j7086
    @f.j7086 12 дней назад

    and China, with its vintage Soviet-era aircraft carrier with a slope ramp, wants to challenge Japan and the US

  • @mikemcguire1160
    @mikemcguire1160 5 месяцев назад +2

    What is striking about this presentation is how much time the author spends on extolling the virtues of aircraft handling and spotting on Japanese carriers. This was something that was a matter of thought and careful practice and discipline, generally available in something as structured as a navy. Not doubt the other navies operating carriers had their own well worked out systems. He is trying to tell us that the Japanese got at least one thing right, while matters like controlling their combat air patrol, effective radio communications with their aircraft, and lack of radar were pathetic, and led to a decisive result.

    • @kennethjacobs4824
      @kennethjacobs4824 4 месяца назад

      Why didn't two carriers commit full air arm to attacking Midway, while the other two stayed armed and ready to attack possible naval forces. This would have Eleminated the problem of landing first wave, and launching attack on naval forces. This delay was what cost Japan the battle.

  • @avenueb
    @avenueb 5 месяцев назад +1

    As many others have said, many people are saying: Japan and USA are better together.

  • @demoskunk
    @demoskunk 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bow is pronounced BAO, not "BEAU".

  • @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020
    @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 5 месяцев назад +1

    If the Japanese Navy was two years behind the US Navy then, Pearl Harbor and all of the US navy losses after should have never happened.

    • @danboy98
      @danboy98 5 месяцев назад

      How so?

    • @cindygordon5242
      @cindygordon5242 4 месяца назад

      A surprise attack , can be successful even against the best navy ! That’s why the German u boats were so successful in the early stages of the war

    • @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020
      @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 4 месяца назад

      @@cindygordon5242 the US Navy should have not been surprised by a navy that is two years behind

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 4 месяца назад

    And years ahead in carrier tactics and operations. At first.

  • @williamdavidthomas3202
    @williamdavidthomas3202 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you❤

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  6 месяцев назад

      @williamdavidthomas3202 Sir very kind of you for gracing our channel

  • @craigkdillon
    @craigkdillon 6 месяцев назад +4

    Seems to me that the Japanese Navy was more than 2 years behind the US Navy.
    Japan suffered greatly from poor damage control.
    While the US Navy benefitted from superb damage control.
    Many US ships survived damage that would have sunk any Japanese ship.
    I would love to see a video describing how the US Navy developed such excellence.
    There must be a reason.

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 6 месяцев назад +2

      It's not so much that the US was good at it (they certainly were)....but the Japanese did not care about it, as they were offense minded to an extreme degree. Plenty of examples I could give, but defense was not glamorous, so to speak.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@doctordetroit4339 I think one thing at work is that United States had a maritime economy. We sent ships around the world, like the Cutty Sark. We knew how to handle rough seas, and damage at sea.
      Japan only had fishermen that stayed in coastal waters.
      Japan copied the British Navy, down to its uniforms.
      But, without a naval tradition, they did not understand the basics, IMO.
      For instance -- US subs tore up their shipping -- YET -- Japan never used convoys.

    • @tracyyoung224
      @tracyyoung224 5 месяцев назад

      I would love to see a documentary about American Navy damage control during ww2.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 3 месяца назад

      @@tracyyoung224 Agreed. American damage control was key to keeping our early carriers fighting, and was key in our early victories. Damage control may not seem sexy, but it is vital.

  • @user-uy3bj9ue5c
    @user-uy3bj9ue5c 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not 2 years. 10 years behind. The yanks only needed to be 2 years so that all they showed you. Largely thanks to the Brits I might add.

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 5 месяцев назад +2

      "Largely thanks to the Brits I might add."
      How so ?

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 4 месяца назад +1

      Huh? Not sure I understand your post

  • @scottmcdonald5237
    @scottmcdonald5237 6 месяцев назад +1

    😮

  • @RalphTempleton-vr6xs
    @RalphTempleton-vr6xs 4 месяца назад

    At that point in time, with the flood of new tech and weapons systems being developed and brought into service, two years was an insurmountable gap

  • @mikemegame1
    @mikemegame1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Algorithm

  • @moisesfuentes2090
    @moisesfuentes2090 5 месяцев назад +1

    He he he he USA was about 10 years behind Germany 😅

    • @matthewhuszarik4173
      @matthewhuszarik4173 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes the US was so in awe of all the German’s horses and carts.

    • @moisesfuentes2090
      @moisesfuentes2090 5 месяцев назад

      @@matthewhuszarik4173 , instruct yourself, information is just about a click away! T00 faraway from you mind?

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 6 месяцев назад +3

    I Heard Early in the War They Didn't Have Radar?

    • @nancymilawski1048
      @nancymilawski1048 6 месяцев назад +1

      They had it but not on every ship and aircraft

  • @terrywayneHamilton
    @terrywayneHamilton 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am a pilot and love history, so here is my take on WW2 pacific carrier battles between U.S. and Japan. The Japanese had a excellent torpedo 'Long Lance' that was better than the 'Mark 13' torpedo of the U.S. Navy. The Japanese formulated air tactics 'attack' and 'defense' with this as primary objective. The U.S. pilots loved the 'dive bombing ' attack and only used torpedo attack as a secondary form of diversion. This battle tactic alone would have severely injured the Japanese fleet ; however, the above description of hanger and fuel with gun powder all together was just topping on the cake of disaster for Japan. The Zero also had a hidden short coming that would be used by many allied pilots. The Zero was slow in a high speed turn because of it's ailerons made of cloth covering. A U.S. pilot could dive and then out turn a Zero , but only one turn and then it was time to get the hell out of Dodge. That one turn was death for many Zero pilots. American pilots and aircraft could take more damage than Japanese Aircraft, but it was the ability to shoot the Zeros and the Bombers out of the sky that ended the war. The A Bombs dropped on Japan by B-29 flew with no fighter escort because there was no Japanese fighters to worry about.

  • @harrybaulz666
    @harrybaulz666 5 месяцев назад

    2 years? Hahahhahhahhaaha

  • @MikeHunt-fo3ow
    @MikeHunt-fo3ow 5 месяцев назад +1

    how far ahead were the nazis? they even had cool leather trench coats

  • @patrickcarroll3818
    @patrickcarroll3818 6 месяцев назад +1

    Positive comment

  • @mikeemerson4284
    @mikeemerson4284 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Japanese were ahead of the Americans the whole time the Americans just had more production power and industrial might

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 5 месяцев назад +3

      No the Japanese were way behind in radar, and AA guns. And there is some indication the armor they were putting on the ships was below the standard being produced by the US

  • @LilRebelYell
    @LilRebelYell 6 месяцев назад +1

    Too many commercials

    • @WW2Tales
      @WW2Tales  6 месяцев назад +1

      @LilRebelYell Sir sorry for the inconvenience ,probably because of Easter you are being bombarded with too many ads by YT

    • @stevewhite3424
      @stevewhite3424 6 месяцев назад +4

      Blame youtube not the uploader

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      @MrChiangching 6 месяцев назад +1

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  • @Makeyourselfbig
    @Makeyourselfbig 5 месяцев назад +2

    Japan's navy only had one problem in WW2. They couldn't replace what they lost at anything like the rate America could. WW2 was a war of attrition. So the side that had the greater ability to produce armies and weapons in greater numbers was bound to win. Out of the three major Axis nation of Germany, Italy and Japan only Germany had an economy and production rate anywhere near robust enough to withstand the rigours of all ot war. Yet even theirs wasn't enough to overcome the combined manpower and production rates of America, Britain (+ empire) and Russia. The war economies of both Italy and Japan were like reeds in a hurricane. They simply got blown away.

    • @iansneddon2956
      @iansneddon2956 4 месяца назад

      That was the Luftwaffe problem in the Battle of Britain. Germany wasn't capable enough for what was needed either, even just against Britain.
      Superior UK aircraft construction and training programs meant they replaced their losses while Germany did not.
      The Luftwaffe started the battle with 3,000 combat aircraft (fighters and bombers combined) against around 650 RAF fighters, some obsolete.
      By August the Luftwaffe had been worn down to around 2,200 while the RAF had been worn down to .... oops, had built themselves up to 750. So the Luftwaffe went after the RAF airfields and the infrastructure of RAF Fighter Command for the next three weeks, knocking the RAF down to around 630 before they adapted, ending this period with 1,700 Luftwaffe combat aircraft against around 725 RAF fighters. The switch to bombing cities actually slowed down the rate the Luftwaffe was losing aircraft while still holding the RAF down to just over 700 operational fighters. But the Luftwaffe was still losing.
      They had gotten into a war of attrition with an enemy who outproduced them. Not a good place to be.

    • @davidkillawee6
      @davidkillawee6 3 месяца назад

      Exactly what Yamamoto was concerned about the most.