I just bought some Sitka gear I love it...so much better than the Wal-Mart specal... most people who say they can't afford it can...just change your priority like I did!
Hunted in a blind for the first time last year. Biggest lesson I learned was to be off the ground. I live and hunt in SK so that is usually mid to late Nov for me. Two of my sits were around -30c and, hoo boy, no matter how many heat packs I had in my boots I was still cold. This year I got a larger blind that I will be able to have a proper chair in. I'll be hauling out some insulated mats to put around the base to hopefully cut the bite of the cold coming straight from the ground. Amoung other things. Also, going to take out my deer hide to put on my seat. Never shot anything from my blind but did let a young buck walk. It was a totally new and exciting experience compared to the usual road hunting I have grown up on.
I am disabled and have been since 1997. But I have found if I purchase cheap Walmart gear I have to replace it6 times as fast as quality gear. I still have my original Scent Loc camos and Road Trip camos that are now 18 years old. Still in great shape. H2O Blaze Camos from Gander Mountain as well 18 years old and still functioning as new. And they cost me $450 each set from 1998 to 2000. I just wore out my LaCourse boots after 16 years. And I hunt every day until my tags all filled in both Ohio and Michigan. You get what you pay for. Sitka will be my next purchase. I already have an early season Celsius jacket & ESW pants. Into them for less than $400 with a lifetime warranty for workmanship. Show me any other clothes that offer that. You spend $1000 on a bow and think nothing of it. Yet you'll spend $700 on a rifle and put $50 scope on it 10 times. Nice info, great video. For the hunter, not the weekend wanna be
Rick that is an outstanding comment..."for the hunter", which is so true. Work hard, play hard and hunt hard...and you will wear out cheap clothes and gear several times over high quality. Great couple of SITKA items that you have! Pretty nice when you can buy stuff and know it will last a lifetime, let alone fit the way that it should and be specifically built for bowhunters!
Jeff thanks for the information on Sitka Fanatic. I bought the newest model of the jacket in fall and today I received my Fanatic bibs. I can tell you the Jacket is awesome and I can’t wait to use the bibs this weekend. Suppose to cold here in The Northwestern lower Peninsula of Michigan. Thanks again.
Thank you very much...all about the layers though! The one good thing is that if you ever do by great gear like the gear from SITKA, it will last a lifetime. Good luck the rest of the season!
good info.i always keep 3 different types of boots in my arsenal. uninsulated,600-800 gram for mid season,and 1200-1600 gram for December and january.layering is key for sure in staying warm cold.i always wear alot my military gear for winter.whrn I was active duty I had poly pro baselayers,silver lined socks,goretex jacket and pants,and really good rain gear.it helps when diverse weather kicks in.
Army wet weather gear is noisy as hell, though. I do like the 7 layer suit that they are issuing now. Thin base layer, really good waffle mid weight, then they have a bunch of other crap to make you look like a 5 yr old in a snow suit....but the 2 base layers under quality hunting outerwear is phenomenal. Also, I like wearing a pair of insulated Jean's under my bibs to keep my legs quite a bit warmer. I have horrible circulation and my legs and feet get very cold easily, so I usually have twice as many layers on my lower half as I do my upper.
My brother got me hooked on Sitka, I was a Sitka hater because it was so expensive. He let me try on his fanatic vest and I fell in love with it. So I went to the local Sitka dealer and noticed that the fanatic vest my brother had was the older style and the new stuff had the Berber fleece on the outside and I was worried about all the burrs sticking to it. So picked up a new old style fanatic vest on eBay in elevated forest. And piece by piece my collection has grown. I really like the stratus jacket and pants. So versitile for warm weather and great for when it starts to get cold. I picked up the incinerator jacket and I am pretty much set for when it gets nasty out. I want to get the matching bibs but I have a pair of first lite sanctuary bibs that are so warm that I have worked perfectly in -10° with a -20° wind chill. Maybe some day I will get them but for now I don't care if I don't match. But I am a Sitka believer now and I won't hunt with nothing else.
The only problem I have with videos like this is ... the majority of hunters cant afford a thousand dollars In Camo...I'd love to own sitka gear but it's not possible... do a video like this for the masses
The information is for the masses...that is what matters. Also, I expect my hunting clothes to last decades....so a few extra dollars per hunting month spent on gear to last a lifetime...heck, I can't affird NOT to buy quality gear. Again tho...the information is for th masses...same concepts, same strategies...even in lower quality gear ;) Thst like saying i shoukkd hunt with a cheap gun, cheap bow, cheap flashlight, cheap optics...just to relate to the masses? Well I call I priority. For the same folks that wine about buying top quality hunting gear...I'd likr to see their truck, their boat, their bowling league score, their whatever...it's all about priority in life brother, and to me buying gear rhat lasts a lifetime instead of a few years...IS for the masses who have to be wise with what they do spend money on ;) This channel is about high level whitetail strategy...could practice the same techniques naked if you want, but theybare still the same strategies. Just colder
@@jonpatterson5668 lol so you are saying that if the gear high quality, it doesn't apply to the masses? Ha...too funny. Now that's a new one. Sorry, but since I have only ever used high quality stuff for hunting...never been rich. I guess go find hunting advice from folks using low budget gear. Maybe they have a channel for that? Anyways... good luck with that!
I've been keeping warm for 30 years without owning one piece of this overpriced camo! Maybe I will start that channel, btw I've shot a lot of deer, moose, and bear. Not saying it's not nice but it's definitely not necessary.
Boot blankets are extremely effective. The new, large, adhesive, chemical body warmers are great. I typically put one over each kidney and then push down with my arms. I'll disagree about your policy of walking in with all your clothes. I know it is a pain, but it is so much more comfortable to start out slightly cold (remove layers), heat up when walking in without sweating like crazy ,and then put your layers on. If you are walking a mile uphill with a stand on your back, then I just don't think it is feasible to not remove layers. I typically start with my base and outer layer only and then put on middle layers right before entering the stand.
Good points! Unfortunately leaving the scent at the base of the stand it takes to change is unacceptable...along with the time it takes, and the noise...either on the ground or in the stand. So for decades I've used quality, moisture wicking layers and climb right into my stand ready to hunt. And shoot a lot of mature bucks 😉 I just couldn't ever accept the scent, time or noise it takes to change at the stand...or accept it from anyone else that hunts with me. Too small of parcels...too high pressure of hunting. Kind of a non negotiable way that I hunt...hope that makes sense! I just go in lightweight, no pack...climb into a tree and shoot bucks. Very no frills, low hassle process...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 A lot of public land hunters can't leave stands in the woods and have to walk in a good ways (up hills in my case) with a stand, sticks, and few other things. I can't have a set up waiting for me. If I walked 1.5 miles with all my clothes on with all my gear, then I'd be a mess. I don't care what clothing I had one. I have some Sitka and also many pieces of quality gear (merino wool wicking base layers from famous hiking gear companies etc) and although good, they just can't deal with a heavy downpour of sweat from me. Because I run and gun and have to set up anyways (stick and stands), then I'm not able to sneak in and just climb up. So, getting set up at the base of the tree adds a minor bit to a not great situation to begin with! Because I'm going to spend 15 minutes getting set up and climbing anyway. I typically walk in with my base layer and polar fleece on top. Then at base of tree, before putting on safety harness, I throw on a goose down vest and then my wool coat and slap a few chemical warmers on. This allows me to be overdressed in the stand somewhat.
I remember the Zippo hand warmers. I think They still make them. Thing I struggle with the most is face masks. Haven't found one yet that can cover my nose and not block my peep sight view. Deep set eyes and big cheeks mess it up every time. Nose has to stay out.
I have the Sitka Incinerator gear. Much better overall i think personally. When your walking in unzip the pants on your bibs and unzip your coat and vents. You won't get hot and will be comfortable. Wait 10 mins to cool down and then zip up zippers. Also keeps scent down for me. Good Video
I have the incinerator too...didn't wear it last season because I only hunted in temps down to single digits... I've worn the heavyweight Fanatic gear well over 100 times in 3 seasons...my incinerator twice, in 3 seasons. Little noiser, bulkier but great in the deer blind if frigid cold! Great products either way for sure...
Alex C I agree...two top notch companies! Been shooting Mathews bows since 1992...love my Sitka gear!! I know Sitka gear is expensive, but hunting clothes should last decades, and this stuff certainly will...
John Oswald I have one...and I do like it! For bowhunting tho, and being mobile, I really appreciate the Sitka gear being so bowhunters friendly... The HBS is pretty nice tho, for sure!
I understand you are pro staffed by sitka, and that they make good gear, but do you still prefer it over scentlok? Scentlok (as long as properly treated) helps cover your scent more than any other hunting clothes I know of and is very comfortable.
Good Question! I sure do. In fact I believe the best form of scent control is stand location and keeping your access routes free from scent...which can be accomplished through spraying down and clean clothes. What I do is to try and choose the best gear...and then I contact them for a partnership. I then try to stay with them for life. It took me 2 years for Vortex, for example...but I thought they were the best and best fit, so I didn't pursue another optics company. I don't want to be locked into a partnership wishing I was using another brand...so I would rather not have a partnership for a particular type of gear, then get locked into low quality. That's why I chose Sitka...I thought they were the best. Same with family tradition treestands. Heck even Mathews... I've shot Mathews exclusively since 1992. I hope that makes sense but the quality level is so high, they charge such a high price and get it. I really believe to be the best I can buy...
If you like the idea of ScentLok you only need it for your outer shell. You can layer whatever brand you want underneath as the outer shell is basically a scent “catch-all”. I like to use a Scentlok outer shell with some high quality Sitka stuff underneath
Have you ever worn Nomad gear? I just picked up there conifer line for this coming season, We are so Excited, my son is 9 and he just recently got his license, and next weekend is his first youth day here in VT! good luck this coming season!
Great info. I’ve read some reviews on the Sitka Fanatic jacket. There are a few complaints/replies the jacket is to noisy for bow hunting. What’s your experience? I have a mid -season scentlok jacket but looking for late season jacket for Northern Michigan. Thanks
Thank you! I love the heavyweight jacket and have shot several mature bucks in tight quarters/close shots with it. The new Sitka is supposed to be 50% quieter too, and resist burs at a much higher level. I live mine and feel fortunate to be able to wear it 🙂 Hope that helps!
Heater Body Suit is way warmer more simple and doesn't cost 3 grand. You can freeze in this sitka gear just the same, but not in the Heater Body Suit. It keeps me in the woods any day any temperature without sweating on the way.
I've used the HBS...solid product! Also, well less than a grand for SITKA heavyweight fanatic and bibs. Just need to be smart layering and it keeps you very warm. However... I own a HBS and haven't used it since using SITKA. There is a HUGE difference using clothing like SITKA that is specifically designed for bowhunting. I do not miss my HBS at all, and even my wife who is not sponsored...not filmed...not promoted in any way, chooses her SITKA over the HBS. And she has hunted roughly 45 times since mid September and still counting, in all kinds of conditions, mostly treestand, countless teens to 20s mornings after hiking 20-30 minutes uphill into a stand. In fact I wouldn't want her to use a HBS in the treestand because as an experienced hunter, her chance of getting a shot off without a deer seeing her with her crossbow would be greatly diminished. And that has nothing to do with SITKA vs HBS...just a fact. HBS is a good product...but it certainly isn't the best for bowhunting and treestand, if you can afford spending $800-$900 on quality, bow friendly outerwear.
Funny, I forgot to mention that I wear Sitka every day. I have the goretex goose down jacket and bibs, not sure if it's the incinerator or fanatic but it's about 7 years old. I live in it. I also have the down insulating layers so I can really pile it on if i need to. It's the best gear i'm aware of but in my opinion there isn't enough layers of anything that can keep me warm while stationary in a tree under say 10 degrees. Nothing can duplicate the air space effect of a blanket, sleeping bag, or HBS. I can also hide in it and text or read without the loss of any fingers. That said, I have never killed a deer in my HBS. Mostly because I wasn't shooting does or small bucks but I have found myself wondering how the hell i could get a shot off if i wanted to. I even passed on deer that i might have shot if i didn't have to make all those moves so I share the concern but i can't see staying warm enough without it?..Anyway, I have two properties in Minnesota that I am ready to invest in some education on if you are interested?
@@AO-ip6yx great experiences! And that's my worry...very warm but if I had to take a shot, the odds are lower i would think. And sure I'm always interested. I have a very set schedule and I am in the NE portion of MN end of February and if close to that area I could visit you then. Then it just depends after that. I charge $2450 fo an average sized parcel per day, $2950 for a larger parcel. I offer a slight discount for 2 days if needed. We schdule by deposit only and I book out from December through September...pretty limited days in MN unless a close distance from home. All scheduling goes through my wife at info@whitetailhabitatsolutions.com I'm in MI in early Feb, April, June and August...but the rest of the months I could do MN if closer to home. I am around Hibbing in late February. Thanks for asking!
Sounds good, I will certainly contact her and sort out the details. i have one piece, 175 acres 3 miles east of Boy river, mn and a higher priority piece about a 70acre peninsula on the Rum river just north of 22 near st Francis, mn
That Boy River parcel would work out nice for that late February trip...and the St Francis parcel would be close enough to visit on one of my Western Wait trips. I let Diane know and I really appreciate the interest! She is scheduling a lot right now, and I know she will respond right away if you send an email. Thank you!
Thanks for the great info, I use a mix of my Army issue extreme cold weather gear and what I've purchased while stationed in Alaska. But for the masses who mainly do their gear shopping on a budget and can't afford a whole Sitka system. What advice could you offer for gearing up and staying warm.
John Martinez can totally understand the budget issue! The one thing I can say about that tho, is that someone should expect their hunting clothes to last for decades...so in the end the cost for extreme quality is more that justified (at least that's a good argument with the spouse :)). But, I did very well for 20 years, wearing my old Cabela's gore-tex/thinsulate/fleece combos that I first started using in the early to mid 90s. I literally wore that camo for over 20 seasons. If someone can find that old stuff used, it is worth it,no matter what the camo! I would have a lot of it for sale myself, but that camo was handed down to my kids and I expect them to use it for several decades themselves if they want to. I also heavily relied on heavy fleece windstopper vest and jacket layers as well....wearing a vest almost every time I hunted. Heat packs are incredible and if nothing else, heavyweight high quality base and ling John layers are critical!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks for the reply. Hunting while stationed in Alaska taught me a lot but passing it down and conveying to hunting buddies WHY you need to spend the extra dollar is vital. And now with 2 young boys now starting to get into hunting, the wife is going to have to read this reply to see why so mu choices ge at is in the shopping cart. Thank you for the reply
John Martinez You are welcome John...good luck with the kids too, I don't think mine realize how great they have it with the hand-me-downs, but when it is great gear and lasts for decades...it is actually pretty enjoyable to pass it along and keep your kids comfortable!!
For those whining about the price. Yes it's expensive, but it's worth it. Prioritize, less money blown on drinking, smoking. eating out, etc. Buy one or two pieces at a time, buy it on sale. It's not that hard, but it's pretty easy to whine and complain about how expensive something is.
The only problem with layering up like that is if you have to walk a good way to the stand. I found i get sweated up even with the leg zip open to my knees. i have the Fanitic bibs and jacket, great but i have the older one without Windstopper. i do better with the Jetstream and layer under that. If i can keep the wind off me when im sitting ill be fine. That, and keeping the wind off my neck. I hate having the wind hit the back of my neck lol. BTW. you can afford Sitka gear, Once a year most vendors have a sale near the end of the season, also, gifts certificates to places that carry it helps from family and friends. Also, there is a Facebook page for buying and selling used and closeout Sitka gear.
Buy the best "you" can afford. When I started I bought thin layers X-Large from Kmart and put them on over my everyday winter jacket and pants, my boots were "pleather". That's the great thing about this sport, you can get started with very little. As your passion grows and as your income allows...upgrade here and there. I have made a life time upgrading gear. It does not happen over night.
Thanks for all the good info in all your videos. Heard you mention the Oakland press in the video about checking the weather for cold fronts. We must of grew up pretty close to each other. I grew up in Pontiac. I live in gladwin now. Thanks again for all the good info .l have learned alot of good tips from you.
A person doesn't need all that fancy expensive stuff. A few layers of cheap Walmart clothing is all a person needs. Scentblock is not a necessity. I use Tinks smokin sticks and stay upwind. No issues getting deer to come in while staying warm.
Layers. Always take layers. During the hike, you don't want to work up a sweat. But you want to be warm while sitting. So wear little, but carry extra layers to put on.
Body warmer under your hat. Makes a HUGE difference! And if you really want it warm... Cover that with aluminum foil. Go ahead and laugh, but once you try it :)
pensnut08 ha, that's a new one but I bet it works! My head is the one area I always have enough layers for and place a huge priority on...the facemask, gore-tex and insulated hat combo seems to work in any temp, wind or weather. Wondering tho, with the tinfoil would my cell phone reception be better!? Lol
I knew it would get a laugh,,, Until you try it :) Last time I had to do it was Jan 2014- Upstate NY I was trapping coyotes when the high was -5 to -10 for days. Well anyway. I watched this and decided to get some Sitka Gear one bit at a time. Just ordered the hat. Wish the brim was a bit longer.. But I can super glue one on :)
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Vapor Barrier or Mickey Mouse boots. Those are the boots that you picked up from the Army Surplus store. We used them in alaska a ton and I've found them to be fantastic in the tree stands. Love the videos!
@@heathstanley6142 really good points! I will have to check out the VB boots too. And I love the advice from Alaska! Great testing grounds for warm boots, no doubt. Thanks Heath!
hi bob great advice couldn't understand the name of the items for the diabetic supplement you mentioned. did u say goobs never heard of it. I'm diabetic and a avidlate season bowhunter. can u give me the name and where to purchase this as I would also like to purchase some for myself. tks. in advance.
blkrubber1 Great question...i.hope this helps! It's called Gu.i first used it for running or bike riding when I actually wasn't diabetic. It can be purchased at Dicks sporing goods or other sporting goods outlets. It comes in different flavors...I like blackberry the best...and is right around 23 carbs and 100 calories. I use it often when designing lands too, because my sugar consistently drops to below 90 in the afternoon with a lot of walking - same when hunting. I have had a few lows in the deer stand and I just take a Gu and enjoy the hunt! It of course wakes me up a bit too. Good luck with your diabetes!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions totally agree, I’m just use to cold weather I’ll wear a t shirt until it’s below 0c, and pull out the parka when it hits -20-30
Whitetail Habitat Solutions one time I went mountain camping a couple hours north and with wind chill it went down to -40 at night, should’ve felt it it was crazy
Same. I typically can sit fine my gear currently, but my feet and hands always go first. I like the hand pocket deal in the vid. Hoping to find one on sale this season. I love my Equinox hoodie! Just need some bibs to be even more toasty!
I like UnderArmor cold gear liners and then Manzella Bow Hunter Convertible gloves over those. Also use a hand warmer muff like Jeff shows in the video (just a cheapie Cabelas one though).
Actually it's brought to you by Jeff Sturgis based on over 30 years of learning to stay warm in temperatures down to -25 degrees Fahrenheit. Listen and learn Bud 😉
Hey brother I got one of the big ones on my place this morn he’d been fighting and broke his right beam off right at the longest point. He had 4 points on one side and two on the other side. I’m wanting to see the one that broke the horn off.
Ha, when we shot this video...I believe it was -40 to -50 with the wind chill 😲 Crazy eh? Diane sat 3 mornings in a row this week for (5 hours in the treestand plus an hour of walking) where it didn't get about 15...when it warmed up! Actual temps. One day it didn't get about 9
I'm surprised about how much hate this video has, sure sitka is very pricey but I can totally understand what he means when he says he wants camoflouge to last decades. But this video can apply to all hunters sitka gear or not.
I can’t afford Sitka holy crap I’d have to take a loan out for it Hence my bow is older and used bought it cheap The way I stay warm is a set up a ground blind and put a mr heater in it snug as a bug literally 100$ bam
Great tactic for hunting in the ground...but for serious bowhunters sitting in trees...great hear is a must and unfortunately you get what you pay for. Although where I'm hunting on public land in MI right now...carrying a heater in 45 minutes thru the swamps isn't going to happen either, so stuck with having to wear great gear!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I’m a very serious hunter even though I blind hunt I’m out 4 days a week I make do this year In Ohio it’s been tough though haven’t seen a deer all season yet kinda pretty much gave up for this year so can avoid winter hunts this year
I just wait for cabelas end of season clearance. Wooltimate jacket for $75. Mt050 insulated pants for $75. Some wool bases and clearance hand muff for $12!
miwhitetailhunt What do you think of the noise of the IWOM? I haven't used one before, but have had some serious whitetail nut buddies not wear theirs due to the noise in the stand...one even tied an old shirt to the tree trunk so it quieted it down from the fabric rubbing up against the tree. What have you found? Like I said....haven't used it myself so just going by what others have said. But I can't stand noise in any thing...I've even had a squeaky boot I got rid of for hunting. Squeaked at every step, lol
I have had deer 15 yards on dead silent cold mornings, and they don't notice the type of muffled sounds the suit makes. Now if you rub up against a tree without some sort of barrier, it will no doubt make enough noise to alert deer. Some other down sides to this suit that come to mind is washing can be a chore, and weighs what seems to be 90 pounds when fully soaked. One other possible down side is the sleeves are slightly bulky, so an arm guard was needed. What works for me might not be everyones solution, but it makes being out on those crazy days a breeze.
miwhitetailhunt thanks for that! I have been wondering. I do like the Sitka because I can stay warm in bitter temps and it is made with bowhunters in mind. But I know a lot of folks like the IWOM...just have no experience with it. I have a HBS and with my Sitka system I don't need it for the warmth now, bit my feet are always a concern with having to wear big And bulky boots to climb uphill for 40 minutes to some of my stands on the lands I hunt. Hey bottom line...a lot of real high quality clothing out there!! As a freezing MI teen standing on a branch in the 80s and hunting to near hypothermia, all this stuff is absolutely incredible and I am very thankful for what I have been able to upgrade to over the years!
Just to clarify to people it's okay to buy bits and pieces of gear over time. I highly doubt Jeff like the rest of us didn't just dumb hundreds of dollars in one go at the store.
Under armour gun powder way better, cheaper, and quieter. Water and wind proof. Made for cold weather bow hunting. Coat has hole for tree strap and kidney warmers. Took thousands of dollars and many froze days on stand to find them. I sat all day yesterday in 19 degree weather and unzipped coat to cool off
@@patrickmayden6935 man it sure is! Like most things in life..."you get what you pay for". Love the stuff and best of all I know I can count on it for decades to come. With a lot of blood stains of course ☺️
@@egt22c that's a smart move! After over 30 years of hunting places like PA, WI and all over MI...man it is tough to put a price on warmth. At least the Mickey mouse boots were cheap!
Wish I would've listened to my uncle, he always bragged about the "mickey mouse" boots. This of course was when I was a kid. Last year I got a steal on a pair of Cabela's Saskatchewan Pac boots (now called Inferno Pac boots). Best $100 I ever spent.
The idea that "you get what you pay for" is a fallacy. People who say that also overuse the statement of "it is what it is", these are statements that people make hoping to not really discuss the issue. Sitka gear is fantastic, yes, but it is the most expensive gear on the market. The core principles that should be focused on is the best policies for dressing warm in cold weather hunts. For me, cold is one thing but where I am in Ohio, I deal with a lot of wind which is unpredictable, especially if it is swirling. Anyway, defending the fact that you are brand dependent is a pretty big turn off, stick to what you obviously know, hunting in cold weather, don't bash people over the head with insulting comments like "you get what you pay for" and "good luck". My coveralls are the most expensive item ($125 on sale) that I own and they have saved me big time, I wear nice boots but they were $100 on sale and I put toasty toes between my layers of wool socks and I do just fine. Anyway, don't defend brand dependency, a lot of us have hunted for a long time and for me personally almost always in a tree stand so we know what we're doing but appreciate seeing people's take, like yours. It was a well-made video, certainly took a lot of production (which also costs a lot of money by the way) and I appreciate your efforts to educate.
Unfortunately I can't agree with you. "You get what you pay for" is a smart principal to teach your kids and grandkids about. That's a quality, tried and true life rule. For example if you put a 700 hunting out for next to a $200 outfit and told hunters to pick one not knowing th notice...they would choose the $700 the vast majority of the time. Why? Better materials, better fit, better functionality, lighter weight...that's where, you get what you pay for. That's the same with trucks, boats, lawnmowers and optics. "It is what it is" is just a worn out meaningless saying. Also, apologize big that comes off as condescending or outing someone down, but I believe wholeheartedly in that you get what you pay for, I believe Sitka has the best hunting clothes or I wouldn't use them...and I make zero apologies about making that call online. That's also why I use every other product that I use...I think that they are the best, and you are going to pay to use the best. I was taught that it is better to pay more once...than pay a little but 3 times. Hence...why I believe in, practice and teach, "you get what you pay for".
As someone who has hunted below zero temps for over 30 years...I won't hunt without my handwarmer tube and thin gloves. 2 large heat packs and I'm good for the worst MI/WI Winter can throw my way, sitting 20' up and facing the winds. I also use it to carry my phone, flashlight, grunt rube, etc. I have been hunting with one since the 80s...and hunt with it every single day of the season. Try it! I often wear very warm mittens or gloves to the stand...and then bury those inside my clothes to keep them warm for the walk out. But on stand it's the tube...
Sitka is not that good ,i tried it all , i have the old Cabelas extreme stand bibs and jacket , this is much warmer than sitka , i got rid of the sitka bibs and jacket , not that warm , to bad Cabelas is not the same anymore
I have some and don't like them, my feet still get cold with a pair of 100%wool socks in 30deg weather. I was going to get a a pair of boot blankets to wear but I may just get a pair of belkins with inserts big enough for two pair of socks. I feel that if i have to buy more crap to make the gear do what it's advertised to do then that gear isn't worth spending money on. I'm a firm believer in 100% merino wool on everything but you do need a layer of something that'll stop wind. i'm not complete in my set yet but this video gave me some ideas. I'll be hitting up greywolfwoolens for their wool line of clothing, 100% virgin wool and made to order in the US. It ain't cheap but cheaper than Sitka.
I totally understand where you're coming from but good clothing is an investment. I personally use first lite and love it. It's fantastic and a bit cheaper than sitka. Just buy a piece here and there and keep adding to your load out. It is definitely expensive but I believe its totally worth it.
Its definitely worth it. I hunt upstate NY and the Sitka fanatic set is worth its weight in gold for treestand hunting. Like he said, buy a piece here and there and in a couple years you will have a nice system
i hunt in minest 25 degree celsius in Canada, with full camo equip that cost less than 300 $.........your weather in the state is a joke my friend :) Thank for the video anyway.....Bythe way i like you hand warmer
Jad, Been there and done that with cheaper clothes too...I think I've hit quite a few degrees colder than -13 Fahrenheit (roughly -20 to -25), and there is very, very little clothing that will keep you alive in a bow stand at those temps...let alone comfortable. When your knees and elbows get cold because the insiluation is stretched over them...it's cold! I've actually come in from a morning hunt and it had warmed up to -12 Fahrenheit...actually temps I don't enjoy hunting in, lol. But even then I wasn't wearing Sitka and I was still wearing over $1500 in gear. And that stuff wasn't as warm as my Sitka. Appreciate the feedback...been hunting in zero temps (Fahrenheit) since the 80s...it certainly is no joke 😉
What trouble? Scouting, setting up and working hard creates a lot of luck ;) That's the beauty of hunting...the amount of potential success is directly parallel to the amount of work you enjoy putting into your passion. Just because someone doesn't put a lot of work in does put a lot of work in, doesn't mean there way is the best feom either angle. However, for those that want to experience quality herds and hunts on a consistent basis...public or private land; this is the channel for them ;) There are plenty of channels for purely entertainment...this channel is for those that want to work hard and get a find a higher level of results. That's not trouble...that's called a passion and a way of life. Enjoy either way though!
The working guy can't afford to by gear that won't last for decades 😉 great hunting gear lasts a lifetime. heck, I know guys that spend more on bowling leagues, their boat, their ATV...than buying quality hunting clothes. All about priorities...I choose to be stuff that lasts, whatever that stuff may be.
Staying warm = to having upwards of 2k for just one set up clothes. Yeah it's good stuff but marketed to the wealthy or the nuts who max out their CC. I suppose I could I afford it but 500 bucks for a pair of pants is crazy. I'm a raised Micigan boy as well. It's all about layering with proper materials.
For clothes that you buy to last decades...you certainly get what you pay for. I've bought the best since I was in my terms and had zero money...knowing it would last longer. It's an investment and all about priorities. I see many folks that don't want to fish out money for what they live ..yet have a nice truck or nice home or nice boat or nice UTV or 36 weeks of bowling league or 2 packs of cigs per day or a 6 pack of beer a day...whatever. For something that helps to create memories to last a lifetime and lasts for decades, it is amazing how some refuse to buy the best....or prioritize the best.
Born and raised hunting in the UP. Knowing what an experienced yooper buys is a big help. Thanks for the pointers!
I just bought some Sitka gear I love it...so much better than the Wal-Mart specal... most people who say they can't afford it can...just change your priority like I did!
I still love my old Mickies also for the bitter cold hunting and ice fishing days you can't beat them.
Hunted in a blind for the first time last year. Biggest lesson I learned was to be off the ground. I live and hunt in SK so that is usually mid to late Nov for me. Two of my sits were around -30c and, hoo boy, no matter how many heat packs I had in my boots I was still cold. This year I got a larger blind that I will be able to have a proper chair in. I'll be hauling out some insulated mats to put around the base to hopefully cut the bite of the cold coming straight from the ground. Amoung other things. Also, going to take out my deer hide to put on my seat.
Never shot anything from my blind but did let a young buck walk. It was a totally new and exciting experience compared to the usual road hunting I have grown up on.
I am disabled and have been since 1997. But I have found if I purchase cheap Walmart gear I have to replace it6 times as fast as quality gear. I still have my original Scent Loc camos and Road Trip camos that are now 18 years old. Still in great shape. H2O Blaze Camos from Gander Mountain as well 18 years old and still functioning as new. And they cost me $450 each set from 1998 to 2000. I just wore out my LaCourse boots after 16 years. And I hunt every day until my tags all filled in both Ohio and Michigan. You get what you pay for. Sitka will be my next purchase. I already have an early season Celsius jacket & ESW pants. Into them for less than $400 with a lifetime warranty for workmanship. Show me any other clothes that offer that. You spend $1000 on a bow and think nothing of it. Yet you'll spend $700 on a rifle and put $50 scope on it 10 times. Nice info, great video. For the hunter, not the weekend wanna be
Rick that is an outstanding comment..."for the hunter", which is so true. Work hard, play hard and hunt hard...and you will wear out cheap clothes and gear several times over high quality. Great couple of SITKA items that you have! Pretty nice when you can buy stuff and know it will last a lifetime, let alone fit the way that it should and be specifically built for bowhunters!
When it gets that cold makes you wonder how the bow doesnt just break
Jeff thanks for the information on Sitka Fanatic. I bought the newest model of the jacket in fall and today I received my Fanatic bibs. I can tell you the Jacket is awesome and I can’t wait to use the bibs this weekend. Suppose to cold here in The Northwestern lower Peninsula of Michigan. Thanks again.
Yet again more good info to help us..... even if I do wear crappy stuff out into our woods while hunting....
Thank you very much...all about the layers though! The one good thing is that if you ever do by great gear like the gear from SITKA, it will last a lifetime. Good luck the rest of the season!
the right gear makes hunting so much more comfortable
That’s a balaclava. Baklava is a nice Greek dessert
good info.i always keep 3 different types of boots in my arsenal. uninsulated,600-800 gram for mid season,and 1200-1600 gram for December and january.layering is key for sure in staying warm cold.i always wear alot my military gear for winter.whrn I was active duty I had poly pro baselayers,silver lined socks,goretex jacket and pants,and really good rain gear.it helps when diverse weather kicks in.
Army wet weather gear is noisy as hell, though. I do like the 7 layer suit that they are issuing now. Thin base layer, really good waffle mid weight, then they have a bunch of other crap to make you look like a 5 yr old in a snow suit....but the 2 base layers under quality hunting outerwear is phenomenal.
Also, I like wearing a pair of insulated Jean's under my bibs to keep my legs quite a bit warmer. I have horrible circulation and my legs and feet get very cold easily, so I usually have twice as many layers on my lower half as I do my upper.
My brother got me hooked on Sitka, I was a Sitka hater because it was so expensive. He let me try on his fanatic vest and I fell in love with it. So I went to the local Sitka dealer and noticed that the fanatic vest my brother had was the older style and the new stuff had the Berber fleece on the outside and I was worried about all the burrs sticking to it. So picked up a new old style fanatic vest on eBay in elevated forest. And piece by piece my collection has grown. I really like the stratus jacket and pants. So versitile for warm weather and great for when it starts to get cold. I picked up the incinerator jacket and I am pretty much set for when it gets nasty out. I want to get the matching bibs but I have a pair of first lite sanctuary bibs that are so warm that I have worked perfectly in -10° with a -20° wind chill. Maybe some day I will get them but for now I don't care if I don't match. But I am a Sitka believer now and I won't hunt with nothing else.
The only problem I have with videos like this is ... the majority of hunters cant afford a thousand dollars In Camo...I'd love to own sitka gear but it's not possible... do a video like this for the masses
The information is for the masses...that is what matters. Also, I expect my hunting clothes to last decades....so a few extra dollars per hunting month spent on gear to last a lifetime...heck, I can't affird NOT to buy quality gear.
Again tho...the information is for th masses...same concepts, same strategies...even in lower quality gear ;) Thst like saying i shoukkd hunt with a cheap gun, cheap bow, cheap flashlight, cheap optics...just to relate to the masses? Well I call I priority. For the same folks that wine about buying top quality hunting gear...I'd likr to see their truck, their boat, their bowling league score, their whatever...it's all about priority in life brother, and to me buying gear rhat lasts a lifetime instead of a few years...IS for the masses who have to be wise with what they do spend money on ;)
This channel is about high level whitetail strategy...could practice the same techniques naked if you want, but theybare still the same strategies. Just colder
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 on this topic.. I guess we just disagree lol
@@jonpatterson5668 lol so you are saying that if the gear high quality, it doesn't apply to the masses? Ha...too funny. Now that's a new one. Sorry, but since I have only ever used high quality stuff for hunting...never been rich. I guess go find hunting advice from folks using low budget gear. Maybe they have a channel for that? Anyways... good luck with that!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 good idea, 1 piece at a time. For me that would be per year. 1 piece per year. 😁
I've been keeping warm for 30 years without owning one piece of this overpriced camo! Maybe I will start that channel, btw I've shot a lot of deer, moose, and bear. Not saying it's not nice but it's definitely not necessary.
best thing they keep your Toes from freezing off!
Thanks for the video!
k luper keeping toes warm is so critical to me!
you can pick them up on Ebay for 30.00 bux!
and they are Great for stand hunting and keeping your toes!
hot chocolate with vodka in a thermos and geese jerky.
Boot blankets are extremely effective. The new, large, adhesive, chemical body warmers are great. I typically put one over each kidney and then push down with my arms.
I'll disagree about your policy of walking in with all your clothes. I know it is a pain, but it is so much more comfortable to start out slightly cold (remove layers), heat up when walking in without sweating like crazy ,and then put your layers on.
If you are walking a mile uphill with a stand on your back, then I just don't think it is feasible to not remove layers. I typically start with my base and outer layer only and then put on middle layers right before entering the stand.
Good points! Unfortunately leaving the scent at the base of the stand it takes to change is unacceptable...along with the time it takes, and the noise...either on the ground or in the stand. So for decades I've used quality, moisture wicking layers and climb right into my stand ready to hunt. And shoot a lot of mature bucks 😉 I just couldn't ever accept the scent, time or noise it takes to change at the stand...or accept it from anyone else that hunts with me. Too small of parcels...too high pressure of hunting. Kind of a non negotiable way that I hunt...hope that makes sense!
I just go in lightweight, no pack...climb into a tree and shoot bucks. Very no frills, low hassle process...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 A lot of public land hunters can't leave stands in the woods and have to walk in a good ways (up hills in my case) with a stand, sticks, and few other things. I can't have a set up waiting for me. If I walked 1.5 miles with all my clothes on with all my gear, then I'd be a mess. I don't care what clothing I had one. I have some Sitka and also many pieces of quality gear (merino wool wicking base layers from famous hiking gear companies etc) and although good, they just can't deal with a heavy downpour of sweat from me. Because I run and gun and have to set up anyways (stick and stands), then I'm not able to sneak in and just climb up. So, getting set up at the base of the tree adds a minor bit to a not great situation to begin with! Because I'm going to spend 15 minutes getting set up and climbing anyway.
I typically walk in with my base layer and polar fleece on top. Then at base of tree, before putting on safety harness, I throw on a goose down vest and then my wool coat and slap a few chemical warmers on. This allows me to be overdressed in the stand somewhat.
I remember the Zippo hand warmers. I think They still make them. Thing I struggle with the most is face masks. Haven't found one yet that can cover my nose and not block my peep sight view. Deep set eyes and big cheeks mess it up every time. Nose has to stay out.
I have the Sitka Incinerator gear. Much better overall i think personally. When your walking in unzip the pants on your bibs and unzip your coat and vents. You won't get hot and will be comfortable. Wait 10 mins to cool down and then zip up zippers. Also keeps scent down for me. Good Video
I have the incinerator too...didn't wear it last season because I only hunted in temps down to single digits...
I've worn the heavyweight Fanatic gear well over 100 times in 3 seasons...my incinerator twice, in 3 seasons. Little noiser, bulkier but great in the deer blind if frigid cold!
Great products either way for sure...
Sitka & Mathews=#1 combo!
Alex C I agree...two top notch companies! Been shooting Mathews bows since 1992...love my Sitka gear!! I know Sitka gear is expensive, but hunting clothes should last decades, and this stuff certainly will...
Best purchase I made was a Heater Body Suit. Have you ever tried one?
John Oswald I have one...and I do like it! For bowhunting tho, and being mobile, I really appreciate the Sitka gear being so bowhunters friendly...
The HBS is pretty nice tho, for sure!
I understand you are pro staffed by sitka, and that they make good gear, but do you still prefer it over scentlok? Scentlok (as long as properly treated) helps cover your scent more than any other hunting clothes I know of and is very comfortable.
Good Question! I sure do. In fact I believe the best form of scent control is stand location and keeping your access routes free from scent...which can be accomplished through spraying down and clean clothes.
What I do is to try and choose the best gear...and then I contact them for a partnership. I then try to stay with them for life. It took me 2 years for Vortex, for example...but I thought they were the best and best fit, so I didn't pursue another optics company. I don't want to be locked into a partnership wishing I was using another brand...so I would rather not have a partnership for a particular type of gear, then get locked into low quality. That's why I chose Sitka...I thought they were the best. Same with family tradition treestands. Heck even Mathews... I've shot Mathews exclusively since 1992.
I hope that makes sense but the quality level is so high, they charge such a high price and get it. I really believe to be the best I can buy...
If you like the idea of ScentLok you only need it for your outer shell. You can layer whatever brand you want underneath as the outer shell is basically a scent “catch-all”. I like to use a Scentlok outer shell with some high quality Sitka stuff underneath
Have you ever worn Nomad gear? I just picked up there conifer line for this coming season,
We are so Excited, my son is 9 and he just recently got his license, and next weekend is his first youth day here in VT! good luck this coming season!
Great vid, I get cold so quickly, thx Bob
Bob Bob You are welcome Bob, I hope the tips help you stay a whole lot warmer!
Thanks Jeff for making this video! Tons of great info!
MelowTrapper you are welcome! Lots of frozen sits to gain the experience to try and stay warm....hope it helps you!
Great info. I’ve read some reviews on the Sitka Fanatic jacket. There are a few complaints/replies the jacket is to noisy for bow hunting.
What’s your experience? I have a mid -season scentlok jacket but looking for late season jacket for Northern Michigan. Thanks
Thank you! I love the heavyweight jacket and have shot several mature bucks in tight quarters/close shots with it. The new Sitka is supposed to be 50% quieter too, and resist burs at a much higher level. I live mine and feel fortunate to be able to wear it 🙂 Hope that helps!
I can’t afford any of this but it was still fun to watch
I thought my old man was crazy for bragging up “mickey mouse 🐭 boots “ I guess he’s not crazy after all 🤙🏻
Ha, lol...no he wasn't crazy! I still obviously use mine
I’ve used mine for years and they are the best boots I’ve ever used for cold weather
Had -11° this morning in NE Iowa today without windchills, I might need to invest in some better gear 🤙
What System are you wearing and What pack do you Rum for Hunting season
Heater Body Suit is way warmer more simple and doesn't cost 3 grand. You can freeze in this sitka gear just the same, but not in the Heater Body Suit. It keeps me in the woods any day any temperature without sweating on the way.
I've used the HBS...solid product! Also, well less than a grand for SITKA heavyweight fanatic and bibs. Just need to be smart layering and it keeps you very warm. However...
I own a HBS and haven't used it since using SITKA. There is a HUGE difference using clothing like SITKA that is specifically designed for bowhunting. I do not miss my HBS at all, and even my wife who is not sponsored...not filmed...not promoted in any way, chooses her SITKA over the HBS. And she has hunted roughly 45 times since mid September and still counting, in all kinds of conditions, mostly treestand, countless teens to 20s mornings after hiking 20-30 minutes uphill into a stand. In fact I wouldn't want her to use a HBS in the treestand because as an experienced hunter, her chance of getting a shot off without a deer seeing her with her crossbow would be greatly diminished. And that has nothing to do with SITKA vs HBS...just a fact. HBS is a good product...but it certainly isn't the best for bowhunting and treestand, if you can afford spending $800-$900 on quality, bow friendly outerwear.
Funny, I forgot to mention that I wear Sitka every day. I have the goretex goose down jacket and bibs, not sure if it's the incinerator or fanatic but it's about 7 years old. I live in it. I also have the down insulating layers so I can really pile it on if i need to. It's the best gear i'm aware of but in my opinion there isn't enough layers of anything that can keep me warm while stationary in a tree under say 10 degrees. Nothing can duplicate the air space effect of a blanket, sleeping bag, or HBS. I can also hide in it and text or read without the loss of any fingers. That said, I have never killed a deer in my HBS. Mostly because I wasn't shooting does or small bucks but I have found myself wondering how the hell i could get a shot off if i wanted to. I even passed on deer that i might have shot if i didn't have to make all those moves so I share the concern but i can't see staying warm enough without it?..Anyway, I have two properties in Minnesota that I am ready to invest in some education on if you are interested?
@@AO-ip6yx great experiences! And that's my worry...very warm but if I had to take a shot, the odds are lower i would think.
And sure I'm always interested. I have a very set schedule and I am in the NE portion of MN end of February and if close to that area I could visit you then. Then it just depends after that. I charge $2450 fo an average sized parcel per day, $2950 for a larger parcel. I offer a slight discount for 2 days if needed. We schdule by deposit only and I book out from December through September...pretty limited days in MN unless a close distance from home. All scheduling goes through my wife at info@whitetailhabitatsolutions.com
I'm in MI in early Feb, April, June and August...but the rest of the months I could do MN if closer to home. I am around Hibbing in late February. Thanks for asking!
Layer up! I walk about 1 mile into public land in NW LP and I choose to wear everything but my outer jacket while walking to prevent excess sweating.
Sounds good, I will certainly contact her and sort out the details. i have one piece, 175 acres 3 miles east of Boy river, mn and a higher priority piece about a 70acre peninsula on the Rum river just north of 22 near st Francis, mn
That Boy River parcel would work out nice for that late February trip...and the St Francis parcel would be close enough to visit on one of my Western Wait trips. I let Diane know and I really appreciate the interest! She is scheduling a lot right now, and I know she will respond right away if you send an email. Thank you!
What kind of backpack are you using, I have been looking for a good pack that would hold all my stuff and that I strap my bow to, thanks. Great video!
I use a heated vest I bought from ali express for $ 20.00 , nice when you’re sitting in the cold.
@whitetail habitat,
For those on a limited budget and cant afford the Sitka brand, what would you recommend?
Thanks for the great info, I use a mix of my Army issue extreme cold weather gear and what I've purchased while stationed in Alaska. But for the masses who mainly do their gear shopping on a budget and can't afford a whole Sitka system. What advice could you offer for gearing up and staying warm.
John Martinez can totally understand the budget issue! The one thing I can say about that tho, is that someone should expect their hunting clothes to last for decades...so in the end the cost for extreme quality is more that justified (at least that's a good argument with the spouse :)). But, I did very well for 20 years, wearing my old Cabela's gore-tex/thinsulate/fleece combos that I first started using in the early to mid 90s. I literally wore that camo for over 20 seasons. If someone can find that old stuff used, it is worth it,no matter what the camo! I would have a lot of it for sale myself, but that camo was handed down to my kids and I expect them to use it for several decades themselves if they want to.
I also heavily relied on heavy fleece windstopper vest and jacket layers as well....wearing a vest almost every time I hunted. Heat packs are incredible and if nothing else, heavyweight high quality base and ling John layers are critical!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks for the reply. Hunting while stationed in Alaska taught me a lot but passing it down and conveying to hunting buddies WHY you need to spend the extra dollar is vital. And now with 2 young boys now starting to get into hunting, the wife is going to have to read this reply to see why so mu choices ge at is in the shopping cart. Thank you for the reply
John Martinez You are welcome John...good luck with the kids too, I don't think mine realize how great they have it with the hand-me-downs, but when it is great gear and lasts for decades...it is actually pretty enjoyable to pass it along and keep your kids comfortable!!
For those whining about the price. Yes it's expensive, but it's worth it. Prioritize, less money blown on drinking, smoking. eating out, etc. Buy one or two pieces at a time, buy it on sale. It's not that hard, but it's pretty easy to whine and complain about how expensive something is.
Buy an IWOM....had mine 3 years and love it
The only problem with layering up like that is if you have to walk a good way to the stand. I found i get sweated up even with the leg zip open to my knees. i have the Fanitic bibs and jacket, great but i have the older one without Windstopper. i do better with the Jetstream and layer under that. If i can keep the wind off me when im sitting ill be fine. That, and keeping the wind off my neck. I hate having the wind hit the back of my neck lol. BTW. you can afford Sitka gear, Once a year most vendors have a sale near the end of the season, also, gifts certificates to places that carry it helps from family and friends. Also, there is a Facebook page for buying and selling used and closeout Sitka gear.
Guys wearing like $2,000 worth of Sitka lmao. You better be warm
And comfortable, bow friendly and built to last a lifetime 😉 which it is both. Incredible stuff!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 lol was this video sponsored
@@Biggchad nope.
what happens to the average joe that can't afford $2,000 on clothes deer hunting should be every ones sport and be worrying about $2,000 in clothes
Buy the best "you" can afford. When I started I bought thin layers X-Large from Kmart and put them on over my everyday winter jacket and pants, my boots were "pleather". That's the great thing about this sport, you can get started with very little. As your passion grows and as your income allows...upgrade here and there. I have made a life time upgrading gear. It does not happen over night.
Thanks for all the good info in all your videos. Heard you mention the Oakland press in the video about checking the weather for cold fronts. We must of grew up pretty close to each other. I grew up in Pontiac. I live in gladwin now. Thanks again for all the good info .l have learned alot of good tips from you.
A person doesn't need all that fancy expensive stuff. A few layers of cheap Walmart clothing is all a person needs. Scentblock is not a necessity. I use Tinks smokin sticks and stay upwind. No issues getting deer to come in while staying warm.
Head to toe im covered in Filson Mackinaw Wool. In my opinion the best material for cold weather.
Jeff, what’s your early to mid season Sitka setup?
Check out the Equinox set for early season and the Stratus for mid. Also the Celsius jacket is awesome
Layers. Always take layers. During the hike, you don't want to work up a sweat. But you want to be warm while sitting. So wear little, but carry extra layers to put on.
Body warmer under your hat. Makes a HUGE difference! And if you really want it warm... Cover that with aluminum foil. Go ahead and laugh, but once you try it :)
pensnut08 ha, that's a new one but I bet it works! My head is the one area I always have enough layers for and place a huge priority on...the facemask, gore-tex and insulated hat combo seems to work in any temp, wind or weather.
Wondering tho, with the tinfoil would my cell phone reception be better!? Lol
I knew it would get a laugh,,, Until you try it :) Last time I had to do it was Jan 2014- Upstate NY I was trapping coyotes when the high was -5 to -10 for days. Well anyway. I watched this and decided to get some Sitka Gear one bit at a time. Just ordered the hat. Wish the brim was a bit longer.. But I can super glue one on :)
pensnut08 ha, nice...well enjoy the hat for sure! Well...if you get that super glued extension, lol
It is hard to buy Sitka gear when you’re young and still growing
Amen to that!
Couldn’t agree more.
Exactly it only lasts a year maybe 2
There plenty of great cold weather gear out there besides Sitka that won’t empty your bank account
VB Boots. All day. Your feet will thank you. Good video.
Thank you very much! What are VB boots?
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Vapor Barrier or Mickey Mouse boots. Those are the boots that you picked up from the Army Surplus store. We used them in alaska a ton and I've found them to be fantastic in the tree stands. Love the videos!
@@heathstanley6142 really good points! I will have to check out the VB boots too. And I love the advice from Alaska! Great testing grounds for warm boots, no doubt. Thanks Heath!
What do you think about the cabellas instinct brand?
hi bob great advice couldn't understand the name of the items for the diabetic supplement you mentioned. did u say goobs never heard of it. I'm diabetic and a avidlate season bowhunter. can u give me the name and where to purchase this as I would also like to purchase some for myself. tks. in advance.
blkrubber1 Great question...i.hope this helps! It's called Gu.i first used it for running or bike riding when I actually wasn't diabetic. It can be purchased at Dicks sporing goods or other sporting goods outlets. It comes in different flavors...I like blackberry the best...and is right around 23 carbs and 100 calories. I use it often when designing lands too, because my sugar consistently drops to below 90 in the afternoon with a lot of walking - same when hunting. I have had a few lows in the deer stand and I just take a Gu and enjoy the hunt! It of course wakes me up a bit too. Good luck with your diabetes!
Midwest cold is beyond crazy- I dont know how you guys do it
Tip from a Canadian, get use to the cold and embrace it
For sure...most have never sat down to -20 Fahrenheit...but it can be done and great gear is a necessity, not an option.
Whitetail Habitat Solutions totally agree, I’m just use to cold weather I’ll wear a t shirt until it’s below 0c, and pull out the parka when it hits -20-30
Whitetail Habitat Solutions one time I went mountain camping a couple hours north and with wind chill it went down to -40 at night, should’ve felt it it was crazy
If I may ask what do you use for gloves looking for something archery friendly thanks
Same. I typically can sit fine my gear currently, but my feet and hands always go first. I like the hand pocket deal in the vid. Hoping to find one on sale this season. I love my Equinox hoodie! Just need some bibs to be even more toasty!
I like UnderArmor cold gear liners and then Manzella Bow Hunter Convertible gloves over those. Also use a hand warmer muff like Jeff shows in the video (just a cheapie Cabelas one though).
This episode brought to you by Sitka
Actually it's brought to you by Jeff Sturgis based on over 30 years of learning to stay warm in temperatures down to -25 degrees Fahrenheit. Listen and learn Bud 😉
Baclava is a Greek pastry. Balaclava is the hood and face-mask 😃
Makes me hungry
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 definitely a must in the back pack
If I am going too spend the $ for sitka gear will it last a few years @least?
Hey brother I got one of the big ones on my place this morn he’d been fighting and broke his right beam off right at the longest point. He had 4 points on one side and two on the other side. I’m wanting to see the one that broke the horn off.
LOL i wish i could hunt in 40-50 degrees, it was 20 out here in michigan yesterday
Ha, when we shot this video...I believe it was -40 to -50 with the wind chill 😲 Crazy eh? Diane sat 3 mornings in a row this week for (5 hours in the treestand plus an hour of walking) where it didn't get about 15...when it warmed up! Actual temps. One day it didn't get about 9
Works great.
Mickey Mouse boots are the only thing I have found that do the job in any cold
How is the Sitka Fanatic gear in the rain?
Lekan Oyefeso it is not rain gear...but it takes a lot of downpour to soak thru!
how do you keep from sweating walking going in
Don't think I need all this hunting SE Texas but maybe get a couple pieces to keep warm.
Definitely just a couple of high quality layers, for sure!
Never used stika I like scentlok stuffs great for gun or bow
Mind if I ask what car that is? I love it
Looks like a GMC Sierra or Chevy
Love the videos can you tell me the name of the back pack in this video
Thank you Jack! That's the Sitka Tool Bucket. Awesome pack!! Great features, sturdy, sits real nice, quiet...
I'm surprised about how much hate this video has, sure sitka is very pricey but I can totally understand what he means when he says he wants camoflouge to last decades. But this video can apply to all hunters sitka gear or not.
I can’t afford Sitka holy crap I’d have to take a loan out for it
Hence my bow is older and used bought it cheap
The way I stay warm is a set up a ground blind and put a mr heater in it snug as a bug literally
100$ bam
Great tactic for hunting in the ground...but for serious bowhunters sitting in trees...great hear is a must and unfortunately you get what you pay for.
Although where I'm hunting on public land in MI right now...carrying a heater in 45 minutes thru the swamps isn't going to happen either, so stuck with having to wear great gear!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I’m a very serious hunter even though I blind hunt
I’m out 4 days a week I make do this year In Ohio it’s been tough though haven’t seen a deer all season yet kinda pretty much gave up for this year so can avoid winter hunts this year
I just wait for cabelas end of season clearance. Wooltimate jacket for $75. Mt050 insulated pants for $75. Some wool bases and clearance hand muff for $12!
IWOM xt for simplicity because this system covers anything under 40, windy, and rainy - just my 2 cents.
miwhitetailhunt What do you think of the noise of the IWOM? I haven't used one before, but have had some serious whitetail nut buddies not wear theirs due to the noise in the stand...one even tied an old shirt to the tree trunk so it quieted it down from the fabric rubbing up against the tree. What have you found? Like I said....haven't used it myself so just going by what others have said. But I can't stand noise in any thing...I've even had a squeaky boot I got rid of for hunting. Squeaked at every step, lol
I have had deer 15 yards on dead silent cold mornings, and they don't notice the type of muffled sounds the suit makes. Now if you rub up against a tree without some sort of barrier, it will no doubt make enough noise to alert deer. Some other down sides to this suit that come to mind is washing can be a chore, and weighs what seems to be 90 pounds when fully soaked. One other possible down side is the sleeves are slightly bulky, so an arm guard was needed. What works for me might not be everyones solution, but it makes being out on those crazy days a breeze.
miwhitetailhunt thanks for that! I have been wondering. I do like the Sitka because I can stay warm in bitter temps and it is made with bowhunters in mind. But I know a lot of folks like the IWOM...just have no experience with it. I have a HBS and with my Sitka system I don't need it for the warmth now, bit my feet are always a concern with having to wear big And bulky boots to climb uphill for 40 minutes to some of my stands on the lands I hunt.
Hey bottom line...a lot of real high quality clothing out there!! As a freezing MI teen standing on a branch in the 80s and hunting to near hypothermia, all this stuff is absolutely incredible and I am very thankful for what I have been able to upgrade to over the years!
Just to clarify to people it's okay to buy bits and pieces of gear over time. I highly doubt Jeff like the rest of us didn't just dumb hundreds of dollars in one go at the store.
Love sitka
My cold is in the negative weather I dont get cold easy I just wear a fannel and blue Jean's in 40 degree weather and steel toe boots
Sitka gear is great. But it don't come big enough for me.
I can probably buy a few acres for what all that Sitka gear costs.
Under armour gun powder way better, cheaper, and quieter. Water and wind proof. Made for cold weather bow hunting. Coat has hole for tree strap and kidney warmers. Took thousands of dollars and many froze days on stand to find them. I sat all day yesterday in 19 degree weather and unzipped coat to cool off
Looks good but ain't got enough money to even put my hands on it
I love Sitka gear!
Maybe I’ll sell a few of my guns to afford some.
Ha, well at least the clothes will last nearly as long as your guns ☺️
Best clothing on the market
@@patrickmayden6935 man it sure is! Like most things in life..."you get what you pay for". Love the stuff and best of all I know I can count on it for decades to come. With a lot of blood stains of course ☺️
I'll spend anything to stay warm
The difference between comfort and torture is a fine line when spending hours on a treestand as a serious hunter! Hard to put a price on warmth
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I totally agree, I walked into cabelas and said, give me the warmest boots you have after 1 season of misery
@@egt22c that's a smart move! After over 30 years of hunting places like PA, WI and all over MI...man it is tough to put a price on warmth. At least the Mickey mouse boots were cheap!
Wish I would've listened to my uncle, he always bragged about the "mickey mouse" boots. This of course was when I was a kid. Last year I got a steal on a pair of Cabela's Saskatchewan Pac boots (now called Inferno Pac boots). Best $100 I ever spent.
you putting balaclava or baklava on your face?
The idea that "you get what you pay for" is a fallacy. People who say that also overuse the statement of "it is what it is", these are statements that people make hoping to not really discuss the issue. Sitka gear is fantastic, yes, but it is the most expensive gear on the market. The core principles that should be focused on is the best policies for dressing warm in cold weather hunts. For me, cold is one thing but where I am in Ohio, I deal with a lot of wind which is unpredictable, especially if it is swirling. Anyway, defending the fact that you are brand dependent is a pretty big turn off, stick to what you obviously know, hunting in cold weather, don't bash people over the head with insulting comments like "you get what you pay for" and "good luck". My coveralls are the most expensive item ($125 on sale) that I own and they have saved me big time, I wear nice boots but they were $100 on sale and I put toasty toes between my layers of wool socks and I do just fine. Anyway, don't defend brand dependency, a lot of us have hunted for a long time and for me personally almost always in a tree stand so we know what we're doing but appreciate seeing people's take, like yours. It was a well-made video, certainly took a lot of production (which also costs a lot of money by the way) and I appreciate your efforts to educate.
Unfortunately I can't agree with you. "You get what you pay for" is a smart principal to teach your kids and grandkids about. That's a quality, tried and true life rule. For example if you put a 700 hunting out for next to a $200 outfit and told hunters to pick one not knowing th notice...they would choose the $700 the vast majority of the time. Why? Better materials, better fit, better functionality, lighter weight...that's where, you get what you pay for. That's the same with trucks, boats, lawnmowers and optics. "It is what it is" is just a worn out meaningless saying.
Also, apologize big that comes off as condescending or outing someone down, but I believe wholeheartedly in that you get what you pay for, I believe Sitka has the best hunting clothes or I wouldn't use them...and I make zero apologies about making that call online. That's also why I use every other product that I use...I think that they are the best, and you are going to pay to use the best.
I was taught that it is better to pay more once...than pay a little but 3 times. Hence...why I believe in, practice and teach, "you get what you pay for".
I'm still looking for the warmest mittens with trigger finger hole. Any suggestions anyone?
As someone who has hunted below zero temps for over 30 years...I won't hunt without my handwarmer tube and thin gloves. 2 large heat packs and I'm good for the worst MI/WI Winter can throw my way, sitting 20' up and facing the winds. I also use it to carry my phone, flashlight, grunt rube, etc. I have been hunting with one since the 80s...and hunt with it every single day of the season.
Try it! I often wear very warm mittens or gloves to the stand...and then bury those inside my clothes to keep them warm for the walk out. But on stand it's the tube...
eryk Thomas
I live in michigan. I like to have sitka gear but I I am not of the small size. There clothes don't fit.
Hell ya Michigan boyyyys
For what Sitka cost it should all be gortex.
Sitka is not that good ,i tried it all , i have the old Cabelas extreme stand bibs and jacket , this is much warmer than sitka , i got rid of the sitka bibs and jacket , not that warm , to bad Cabelas is not the same anymore
Are those arctic pro muck boots? Anybody have experience with them?
They sure are Nick! I have used them for years, down to high 20s. I use my Micky Mouse old boots for real cold temps
I have some and don't like them, my feet still get cold with a pair of 100%wool socks in 30deg weather. I was going to get a a pair of boot blankets to wear but I may just get a pair of belkins with inserts big enough for two pair of socks. I feel that if i have to buy more crap to make the gear do what it's advertised to do then that gear isn't worth spending money on. I'm a firm believer in 100% merino wool on everything but you do need a layer of something that'll stop wind. i'm not complete in my set yet but this video gave me some ideas. I'll be hitting up greywolfwoolens for their wool line of clothing, 100% virgin wool and made to order in the US. It ain't cheap but cheaper than Sitka.
I just do jumping jacks and squat thrust.simple
Hell I'll stuff newspapers in my clothes before I spend $700 on a coat.
Because the average guy can drop $1000 plus on Sitka gear...SMH
I totally understand where you're coming from but good clothing is an investment. I personally use first lite and love it. It's fantastic and a bit cheaper than sitka. Just buy a piece here and there and keep adding to your load out. It is definitely expensive but I believe its totally worth it.
Its definitely worth it. I hunt upstate NY and the Sitka fanatic set is worth its weight in gold for treestand hunting. Like he said, buy a piece here and there and in a couple years you will have a nice system
mmmm heavyweight baklava
i hunt in minest 25 degree celsius in Canada, with full camo equip that cost less than 300 $.........your weather in the state is a joke my friend :) Thank for the video anyway.....Bythe way i like you hand warmer
Jad, Been there and done that with cheaper clothes too...I think I've hit quite a few degrees colder than -13 Fahrenheit (roughly -20 to -25), and there is very, very little clothing that will keep you alive in a bow stand at those temps...let alone comfortable. When your knees and elbows get cold because the insiluation is stretched over them...it's cold! I've actually come in from a morning hunt and it had warmed up to -12 Fahrenheit...actually temps I don't enjoy hunting in, lol. But even then I wasn't wearing Sitka and I was still wearing over $1500 in gear. And that stuff wasn't as warm as my Sitka.
Appreciate the feedback...been hunting in zero temps (Fahrenheit) since the 80s...it certainly is no joke 😉
Good informative video but you're carrying about 1.5-2 thousand dollars in camo. Very unrealistic and not necessary for most hunters
If you had an IWOM the video would have been much shorter. ;)
What my problem is , when you have to take a leak, Are you wearing a catheter?? I don't have an anaconda, but taking a leak can be a task!!
Bunny Boots!
yeah friend station in Alaska on the Base call them Bunny Boots!
they sure look like Mickey shoes to me!
I have no doubt sitka has the best but it most certainly has the worst price. Maybe if I hunted for a living and was sponsored.
You need a bow mitt
If you have to go to all that trouble to kill a deer, you are defeating the purpose.
What trouble? Scouting, setting up and working hard creates a lot of luck ;) That's the beauty of hunting...the amount of potential success is directly parallel to the amount of work you enjoy putting into your passion. Just because someone doesn't put a lot of work in does put a lot of work in, doesn't mean there way is the best feom either angle. However, for those that want to experience quality herds and hunts on a consistent basis...public or private land; this is the channel for them ;) There are plenty of channels for purely entertainment...this channel is for those that want to work hard and get a find a higher level of results. That's not trouble...that's called a passion and a way of life. Enjoy either way though!
Are you made of money? How about the working guy?
The working guy can't afford to by gear that won't last for decades 😉 great hunting gear lasts a lifetime. heck, I know guys that spend more on bowling leagues, their boat, their ATV...than buying quality hunting clothes. All about priorities...I choose to be stuff that lasts, whatever that stuff may be.
Staying warm = to having upwards of 2k for just one set up clothes. Yeah it's good stuff but marketed to the wealthy or the nuts who max out their CC. I suppose I could I afford it but 500 bucks for a pair of pants is crazy. I'm a raised Micigan boy as well. It's all about layering with proper materials.
For clothes that you buy to last decades...you certainly get what you pay for. I've bought the best since I was in my terms and had zero money...knowing it would last longer. It's an investment and all about priorities.
I see many folks that don't want to fish out money for what they live ..yet have a nice truck or nice home or nice boat or nice UTV or 36 weeks of bowling league or 2 packs of cigs per day or a 6 pack of beer a day...whatever. For something that helps to create memories to last a lifetime and lasts for decades, it is amazing how some refuse to buy the best....or prioritize the best.