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CASE / David Brown 1390 Tire Changing
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- Getting a tire changed on my Case 1390. I figured somebody might be interested in how tractor tires are changed. This tractor got a set of 4 new tires last summer, but the left rear started splitting in two along a line around its circumference after very little use. After some argument, I got the tire dealer to replace it under warranty.
This was a very easy tire to change. My tire guy, Tony, has to deal with everything from my size tractor (anything smaller, and you might as well throw the tire in the back of your pickup and take it to a tire shop!) up to the big 400HP Steiger's with 16-ply duals that might weigh over 1,000 pounds. He also does a lot of tractor-trailer tires.
This is not meant as a how-to video. Tony makes it look easy, but only because he's changed thousands of big tires. It's too easy to make a mistake that could cost a lot, or even cause serious injury. It's not worth it to save a few bucks.
Great vid. I worked an "exemption" hay operation in Central Texas, lots of machines rolling where the biggest and newest urban blight on the edges of Austin are today. Tony fixed lots of tires for me out on the frontier of "New Cali-York-Xico". Im sure lots of people know allll about some tire repairs, im proud of you all. The only time he had to do a return trip on the same tire for me, was when I ran over a second deer antler in the same field, same tire! 7 years worth, Tony always showed up, and I was rolling again quick!
That vicegrip on the rim trick was worth watching the video for🤓
So simple..that's why we didn't think of it...I'll remember it...
I seen many 30 inch tractor tire repairs and replacements on my dad farm, this guy is a pro makes it look easy.
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I do tire repair in Northwestern Wisconsin . I learned how to fix and change them from my Dad . The Old guy was as tough as $ 1.50 steak . He had 1 eye and 1 hand . lost his eye to a cow horn stabbing him and his hand to ALLIS Chalmers mounted corn picker . He was still out changing tires at 80 when he died . The old guy had a system of changing them that would make you shake your head . With one hand and a hook , he could flop them on and off . I worked in a Machine shop so if he needed any special tools made I could do it for him. I always asked him , Dad when are you going to retire ? He'd say Ahh that's for all them old Buzzard's !!! he said that when he was 79 . Lol.
He died on 10-19-1998 changing a flat tire on gravity box full of corn that was about a 1/4 mile from his drive way . a guy went by and blew a tire on a full load of corn. Well as being that dad was the tire guy he was Johnny on the spot got it off , fixed , and was putting it back on the wagon , when the Hell raising next door neighborhood punk , that lived a half a mile south of our place , That had just got his license came flying down the road and slammed Into the back of the wagon . It was all most dark so they had the guys pickup in front of the wagon shinning the lights on it to see , and all the kid could see was one light and thought he was meeting a car and didn't slow down. He hit the wagon and pinned Dad in between the wagon and the truck killing him instantly. I always told him that you'll probably die with your boots on and your arm in a tire . Lol He would laugh and say yeah but at least my boots Will be on ! So all this is in the memory of Lester J Wagenius . The Toughs Tire Guy I Ever Meet . Rest in Peace Buddy !!! May all your tire jobs be easy ones ! Love Ya Man !!
That's a hell of a story, and a better way to go out than rotting in a hospital. Makes you wonder how long he would have kept thumbing his nose at death before something else took him out!
artgoat Hey how you do n . Yeah if I was going to sit and type a story of what I knew about him . It would take a while to write. All things he went through in his life was unreal. I we live in Grantsburg Wisconsin . And at the age of 9 he was sent here to live on his Aunt and Uncles farm cause they had no kids (aka) slaves . To work on a Dairy farm . Him and his brother were sent here in 1929 from Wolf Point Montana. He stayed here his whole life working like a dog for them. He got drafted during the war but was sent home because they had no kids of there own . He was almost killed Four times by horses in Runaways . Almost died from Rheumatic Fever , He would of if it hadn't been for the old veterinarian being at the farm for one of the horse's and chewing my aunt out and hauling him to the hospital him self he would of . Then loosing his eye dehorning cows here at home in the mid 50's , getting his hand in the corn picker on November 1 1967 . Times were tough as hell but we don't know it as kids . He spent 3 months in St Joseph hospital in Minneapolis till he got his hook , all this time my mom had a hard time keeping people to milk cows , He was milking almost 40 head of cows . It was a cold snowy winter and I remember all the men in the neighborhood got together and cut wood and brought over 6 big hay wagons of wood for us cause that's all the heat we had . He'd been home for a couple of months and things were going OK. He was try n to get use to his hook . And when those guys had dumped the wood by the house there was a big block for splitting . He was splitting some with the axe a double bit. He gave it a hell of a swing and it caught the clothes line flying back and caught him in the fore head and laid him cold in a puddle of blood in the snow . He laid there about 2 hours till the neighbor stopped to say hi and found him .His Aunt was killed in a car crash in 1970 and he was deeded the farm . Spent his while life for 200 acres Wow . He milked cows till 1975 and sold out . Still did crops. Had a job driving the whey truck for the Cheese factory for a few years . They had the Shits trucks on the road. He was in 4 Roll overs. Said the hell with that job. And that's when he started fixing tires in about 1981 . The old guy could put away a few beers . But his true love was dancing. He could polka till 2 and be up drinking coffee and ready to go at 6:30 . Hell he didn't get gray hair till he was 75 . He died at 80 and the shape he was in 6,2 175 wasn't on any meds or nothing . he would of went another 10 or 15 years. His mom was 96 when she passed. And she did a acre and a half of cucumber s by her self every summer . but he was always happy go lucky . Always said. My Boy ! If you have your Health ! And good Friends ! Your a Wealthy Man ! And I guess he had friends there was almost 350 people at the church. They were packed in like fish . Lol. Thank you so much for letting me tell his story. Roger. Wagenius
roger w what a story wow.
sorry about your dad but he probably went a happy man doing what he liked doing.
Thank you for that story. Sounds like your dad was a nice man.
Wrinkles in the tubes are from not letting the air out a few times. He really should be using a little bit of baby powder in the tire to help the tube settle and slide so it doesn't fold when inflating. Letting the air out 2 to 3 times helps it settle as well. He also shouldn't tighten the ring all the way down at first,if u tighten it halfway first,it'll show if the tube is in correctly depending on if the valve stem pushes and stays out or if it sucks back inside (backwards)
Thank you Great Video Had to see this before I started changing my Model 1910 Ford rear tires. I work in a tire shop as a kid and have the equipment to do the tire change but it has been 45 years since I "busted tires" for a living. This refresher course works for me.
Tony the tire man Morgan is in his mid 50s been working with tires since he was 7 started out in his father's shop ... He knows every trick to the trade and is one of the hardest workin people I've ever seen taught me everything I know .
No need for a jack stand on a light tractor like this and the wrinkles in the tube were previously done so all you nay sayers can go away cause if you don't know the man then can't run your mouth or keyboard about him
james krumm the only thing I would have done different is inflate the tube a little before mounting the outer bead otherwise the tube can get stuck under the bead. also wrinkling in the tube can be help sometimes by deflation and re-inflated of the tire after the beads are seated. otherwise he was very efficient. and I was kinda eyeballing the phone # on the truck maybe see if he needs another guy.
That dude humped and booted those tires around like they were almost nothing! Man, I love watching a guy who knows what he's doing!
I defer to Tony's experience. He's changed thousands more tires than I have, on everything from semis to earth-moving machines. He has very good reasons for everything he does, gained through decades of experience, and he's always glad to share them, but I haven't asked him about why he prefers to work with the tube as flat as possible.
When I did bicycle tubes, I liked to have a little air in them to hold shape and help keep them in place.
Tony is first-rate. He has serviced my tractors a few times. It was very cool to find this video.
Definitely not this man's first rodeo. Pleasure to watch a master at work.
Glad I found this video... Showed a way to remove tube without all the hassle of taking the wheel/rim off the tractor. Worked great. I liked the vice grip on the rim while mounting. Saved me lots of time.
My son absolutely enjoyed watching this video. He's 4 and loves learning about anything with wheels :D
One person you never wanna fight is a tractor tire changer
vice grip on the rim is a very nice touch. I'll be doing that in future.
That little siphon deflater is pretty cool.
Valve grabber line, suction the tube, Vice Grips as a keeper..... Tips to remember
We used to put baby powder in the tires, it helped the tubes get seated better.
I did that work for 16 years, and now disabled with back,hip and knees problems.
I worked in my uncles garage for 10 years, poor bastard got 2 knees replaced and a hip, he's in the game 40 years
hey nice video. gonna change one or replace the tube and was ready for war but the man made it look easy. Changed many car tires the hard way as this , figure the tractor tire might be a shop job. Gonna try to do it on the tractor like this, Just a flat and has a tube. Thanks for the info, very helpful
Two tips to keep the tube from folding on itself from aircraft tire industry. Use tire talc inside to help keep the tube from sticking and slightly inflate the tube inside the tire before final bead install. You can then see inside as the tire expands outward to check if all is well with the tube. Then deflate and finish mounting. We aircraft mechs do that every time can't afford tire blowouts on aircraft you know:)
It's a good tip, but unlike aircraft tires, tractor tires come in a limited range of sizes, and you just have to use something "kinda close."
Have a feeling he made this look easier than it is.
That's how she's done! nice job man. gotta love bkt's they always go on so smoothly!!
Great job!This helped me out.i have 2 38inch tires to put on my allis chalmers this weekend.
Next time I go to collect money, I'm bringing this Guy!
East of Havre Montana, summer of '94, I pulled into a two-pump gas station and happened onto two men repairing a large tractor tire. It was hot and they were wrestling with a tire larger than the one in the video. Saline everywhere, so it was a bit of a mess. I asked one of the guys what they charged to fix a tire like that. His answer: $20. Yea, there was something wrong with that picture... Even 19 years ago, that wasn't enough.
Nice to see a master at work
Great job with the tire change I to have changed them and that's the way it is done
Nice job changing that tire out. When you have a little know-how and the right tools, everything typically goes pretty smoothly. When it comes to "bull-work", slow and steady wins the race! There's no reason to go any faster than Tony did here. As both a farmer and a mechanic, I've changed more than my fair share of tractor tires in my day, and I know what I'm talking about here.
Tony did a fine job changing that tire out, and he did it in a very reasonable amount of time. I also am sick of smart-asses that run their mouths about things that they know little to nothing about. Guess that's kinda what the internet is all about, damned blabber-mouths. There's no reason to hurry with this kind of work. I don't care who you are, you aren't getting paid by the job, but by the hour.
Working steadily and SAFELY will get a lot more work done in a day, not to mention at the end of the day, you get to go home still in one piece and not on a stretcher on your way to the ER, where you will be totally unproductive. Not to mention, if you get hurt badly, you'll be laid up for a while and unable to work. Worse yet - you could be DOA (dead-on-arrival). Working on large tires is no joke. Kudos for making it look easy, and a job well done!
He should have put in a new tube. It was creased and will fail where it was folded. this tractor is easy to work with as it has a second drop centre, that allows extra slack to make the change easier.
Well, it's been almost four years, and it hasn't failed yet!
Great. We just put those same tires on a David Brown 995 last summer.
Thanks bud. A great help. The vice grip was just what I needed to know..and that I need a proper set of irons.
Bravo! Super helpful & useful to me! Thanks for sharing!
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great job Big Tony
Wow! Great video. Thanks.
Depends on the size of the tire, whether you need tubes, singles or duals, whether you put sealant or ballast in it, etc. On my little tractor it was $310 which included a couple of rear tubes and the service call.
WOW...didn't think this can be done on the tractor with only hand tools and one
guy! Bravo!
Does Tony fill tires with liquids? Any videos?
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So this is where Gabe Newell was when he wasn't making Half Life 3.
Holy crap and here I was bitching about changing a little ford 8n front tire.. lol That fella is a bear of a man !!!
And not a stain on the jacket.
They used to mix soot with the rubber to make it stronger, probably still do.
That's why us amateurs get dirty around tyres.
The tube creased like that because it was not partially inflated before pulling the last bead over...by inflating it first it should not crease...then after the last bead is on deflate tube then inflate again to insure proper tube and brad seat
MrBear231 See my comment below on tractor tire tube sizes. Tony and I talked a lot about tubes and what causes them to crease, and how well they deal with it. That's one reason I opted to pay extra for the Goodyear tubes, but the size is still "one size sorta fits many."
you can also wipe the inside of the tire with a thin coat of soap...
lmao Goodyear tube...that's just gunna cause problems. I use only the best. Michelin...Goodyear has become crap over the last 10 years. I would not touch a Goodyear with a ten foot pole.
Damn, I wish Grizzly Adams would come over for my tire work.
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Use talcum power inside the tire so the tube don't wrinkle.
Great job dude, you're a master. I bought cheap tire spoons one of them broke the first time I used it. Can you tell me what brand of tire spoons you use an the length and model numbers please?
you dont get them that easy very often it was great day for him
It was easier because he had replaced that tire only the previous summer. You should have seen what it took to get the previous tires off! The hydraulic bead-breaker almost wasn't enough.
Well done
Very nice sir 👌👌👌
Tyre good kaise khole video acchi Tarah se dikhayen ghan ghan Kaisa aur Kitna kilo Ka hai
*When I change the tire on my bike I have to work a lot and watching this video makes me feel worse.*
To be fair, I've found the smaller a tire is, the harder it is to change out. These are 30" rims, so a lot of it is knowing where to apply the force and having big enough tools. The biggest pain I ever had was replacing the front tires on my mower, on 8" rims. The rear tires on some sport bikes, on 16" rims, with rim locks, are some of the most evil bastards on earth to change out.
from now, you are my hero.
Please come to Korea and let me know your skill :))
Just bought my first tractor, one tire is pealing tread the other a bkt is looking good, I was wondering if I could pull this off myself and save 4 or 500 bucks. Still wondering LOL
Tony only charged $310 including the farm call, and a new Goodyear tube and mounting all 4 tires. Considering I paid almost $2,000 for the tires, It was totally worth it. He had to use a hydraulic bead breaker the first time, because the tire beads were so stuck they couldn't be broken loose with a sledge hammer. Any tire that has been mounted for more than a couple of years is probably going to take special tools to break it loose.
I...am impressed! !
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I always sprinkle talcum powder in my casings
Who else jumped when the video went fast and he went back as he was airing the tire
Ascenso tyres are best tyres for all type vehicles.
I’m impressed.!
Thank .
Thanks for this astus
Im from algeria
Good morning
After changing "oh shit, I've be wrong on the tire rotation!"
I do tractor tyres here in Australia and they are full of air and water and it's a lot harder to get off cos farmers find it better to drive on with tyres full of water
First time Tony replaced my tires, they were 75% full of water. He cranked the valve to the bottom and took the valve out without releasing the pressure. The water shot out 20 feet for awhile and drained down to where he could pull the tube out after he broke the bead. He then cut the tube and all the water (and sealant) came out. If I were running tubeless, it would have been harder to get the water out, but it still would have been below the rim.
artgoat yeah and it's not fun putting the water back in, takes agers to get in haha
If the tractor is running singles, it's the easiest way. With duals, yes, he has to pull the outer tire off, first.
Cara vc é um bom trocador de pneus proficional meus parabéns👍😉
I like this
BEAST MODE
just casually pull it off the rim and lift it back on lol
It's all in the wrist. :-)
I change over 2000 tractor tires a year and I could run circles around this guy!
Jo onion ok h no in go goo Mom
great job
well now I feel like an idiot for taking the wheels off of my tractor to change the rubber. it's no wonder I haven't had any luck putting the new rubber back on... I think that this video was helpful, time to put the rims back on the tractor I suppose.
Good job 👍
U make it look easy mate
Dam that guy was faster then OLF and Tim
I need a wheel that size, 16.9-30.
For this particular one-tire job, it was about $80, over half of which was the service call.
What would be the cost of this job?
Collin mckee and i bet your alot younger than this guy too so go get your self a cookie. big guy.,
Sorry my friend but you must to replace the tube , that wrinkle is goint to lead problems soon !!
So what is "soon?" This video was eight years ago. No problems, yet.
any expert also knows that tube should not be reused...if it creased its not week in that area....this guy will be back before the end of the year
Well, "expert" this video is four years old and I'm on the same tube.
your one of the lucky ones
It's not luck, it's experience. Tony cut his teeth on mining equipment at Alcoa. He's seen more inner tubes than you've seen hot meals.
I'm not arguing the fact Tony is a hard worker but honestly I see enough tires in a day to know not to use a creased tube regardless of its age of a tube has been creased it is the incorrect size and it installed with little care..and also he didn't buff or clean the rim before installing the new Tire.....just a few things that makes me cringe..and I also hope he took the brass collar off the tube stem and replaced it with a plastic one to prevent it from rusting to the rim in 10 years down the road.
Again, you need to consider the individual situation. He already replaced my tires 6 months before (which is why he didn't have to use a bead breaker). Do you think he has to buff the rim every six months? If the paint is good, buffing the rim is just going to CAUSE corrosion (tires down here don't use salt, because they don't freeze). Likewise, there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect-sized tube, these days. Pretty much any tube you buy is going to end up with wrinkles, because Firestone only makes a limited range of tube sizes to fit all the tires for a particular rim size. Guaranteed. That's just reality. Thinking you can have zero wrinkles is FANTASY.
The only way you won't have wrinkles is if your tractor just happens to have exactly the perfect size tire for the single tube size that Firestone makes for 30" rims-the TR-218 (which they claim fits tires from 14.9 - 18.4... more or less). Tony and I talked about it at some length. So if you are running 18.4-30 tires, MAYBE you won't have wrinkles, but my 4WD makes it a bad idea to play with tire sizes. I'd rather deal with a small risk of flats than transfer-box destruction.
Don't know about your concern that brass will corrode to the rim. That's a new one on me. The previous valve stem was 30 years old, and hadn't corroded, despite the tires being filled. Tony replaced all the valves completely (not just the cores) when he put the new set of tires on it. I'd have to look to see if they have plastic collars, but I REALLY REALLY doubt it. Considering tractor valve stems have a stainless washer between the collar nut and the rim, the likelihood that it can corrode to the rim is pretty remote. I HAVE seen plastic collars crack and fall apart (usually on mowers). That's why very few tractor valve stems come with anything but brass or stainless.
the tube is most likely wrinkled because he didn't let the air back out and then aired it up again to let the tube form to the tire properly. not saying he didn't do that because it obviously doesn't show the whole airing up process but that's the cause of that most of the time. and jojo go tell someone who cares. the tractor isn't going to hurt him if it falls. there's no need for a jack stand on this job. and he's not slow. he's moving at a nice steady pace. i do this work every day and ya it can be done quicker but he's not trying to be the fastest tire changer in the world so stop bashing on him because you can't do it quicker
Tractor tube sizes are fairly approximate, and the tire companies consider people who run tubes to be the neglected step-children, since they think "real" farmers are running tubeless, and radial to boot! On the rears, it takes a 16.9x30, but the tubes that you can get are meant to fit a fairly wide range of 30" rims. In Firestones, they "fit" 14.9 to 18.4. As a result, on some tire sizes there is no inflation method which will completely eliminate wrinkles.
Agreed!! but I do know that this inflation process will help. but i do agree with you.
is he super strong or wtf? he makes that tire look really flexible. I'd be sweating like a mofo with smaller tires.
ROY Markovik try doing it with full of water, not fun
Even when you think all the water is out of the tire the bottom half is still full
ROY Markovik the tire is really flexible. some tires have more give than others.
It helps when the tire is practically new. The ones he took off were old and hard as rocks. They did NOT come off easily. He had to use his hydraulic bead-breaker on them.
Fair enough, but be sure to wait until you're in your 60's, so it's a fair contest.
Make of tire?
BKT, though Tony says he's seen the same issue happen on Firestones.
Never seen the rim still on the tractor and then change a tire.
What happens if the engine is turned off?
Then his air tank isn't pumped up for the air over hydraulic Jack and any other tools he "may" need, plus by the way he's dressed it's cold out those 7.3 idi are better left running until you have to shut them down ,of course I'm sure you know it's the service truck running and not the tractor I suppose, I heard it idle up at one point which leads me to believe alot of his stuff is pto driven like a tow truck as well
bravo goot working
So that's what ZZtop does on their day off.
Is that santa?.
Actually, Yes! People that know him call him Santa Claus in that area.
I thought the guy did a good job all the youtube cops don't agree by the looks of it
Tony may not be a sharp dresser, but he knows his way around really big tires.
@@artgoatpochi
Most of the people who run their mouths about it probably can’t change one themselves
Those are 8-ply tires, too.
I think he’s done this a couple times?!
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In SAE, it's 16.9-30. Metric size is 420/90 on a 76cm rim.
Working smart not hard. I spent like 2h today unmounting one and partially mounting a new tyre just to find out I did it wrong.
Did you put it on backwards?
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what was wrong with the old tire ?
Huge split in the back side
nice...
Now the neumatic is without camera
My little sister do that
Having de sakte ho kya bhai aapke puncture ki technique Tani chahiye hoti Hame online bhej sakte ho
Why put a tube in with all his experience can't understand it ????
Because I'm the customer, and I requested he put tubes in my tires, and he does what the customer asks. With rims this old and rusty, getting a good tubeless seal at 18PSI is not always reliable.
Nic
I've spent twice that long changing a lawnmower tire😆
Me, too! Especially those wretched 8x4" front deck tires.
@@artgoat those little 4" ones are a nightmare!!!
The tracker looks like it needs don up
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It should be easy for him to remove a tire that is new and not dry.
He comments on that in the video. When he replaced them the summer before, he had to use a hydraulic bead breaker.