Top 10 Colleges that are NOT in the Ivy League in the U.S.
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10. Williams College
9. MIT
8. Duke
7. Johns Hopkins
6. Northwestern
5. University of Michigan
4. University of Chicago
3. UC Berkeley
2. Caltech
1. Stanford
You're welcome.
thank you
Seriously? No Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, WashU, Georgetown?
Ucla smh
MIT is ranked super low
Vanderbilt
Some honorable mentions: Vanderbilt, Rice, UCLA, UT Austin, Georgia Tech, NYU, Georgetown, UW, Carnegie Mellon, UIUC.
Baylor and UAB
Wisconsin Madison
University of Florida
Chico state...
Everyone will start mentioning their University names
Lol some people are butt hurt about their school not getting onto this list...but honestly just google your school’s name and then “best university” and some list somewhere will put it as #1.
Duke and MIT should be in the top 3. If not at least the top 5
I thought for sure MIT would be in the top 3 also. U of Chicago is also excellent.
He seemed to have weather as a dominating factor in this list. It was the only distinction he made when declaring CalTech #2. MIT is definitely superior to CalTech and is more widely known to be the top engineering school, so if it weren't for weather, I'm sure he would have switched MIT with CalTech.
I agree there is no way Berkley is in the top 3. Good school but not close to duke or mit
I thought MIT and Stanford would be top 2. MIT is constantly ranked first in the world
Haha ur probably only saying that cuz those are the only names u know
I think people need to realize that it’s hard for them to choose 10 schools to compare since comparing a school like Berkeley is completely different to a school like Amherst. Both great schools, but size and variety of major make them super different. There are so many colleges that deserve to be on this list, and honestly there should just be a video titled TOP 10 PUBLIC SCHOOLS and TOP 10 LIBERAL ART SCHOOLS or PRIVATE SCHOOLS to compare schools on a more equal level.
I agree, and would add it depends on what you're majoring in. Berkeley is head and shoulders above other school in the math and sciences dept. Not every school is great in every area, and that's not even taking into account post grad areas of study....like Law, or Medicine. The University of Virginia comes to mind for Law.
You are so correct. Also, what matters is student satisfaction. If kids aren't happy at Berkley (and I've known a few) who cares? It's all about grad school in most cases anyway.
@@tidefanyankee2428 lvjbBbbV,cM
Colleges and universities should be compared by major/group of majors: top 10 colleges and universities in computer science, engineering, pre-med, etc.
My mom tooks her master at Berkeley before the 21st she was declared a for 4-points standards norm for Ivy league standards . Any school that accept that 4-points standards is an a ivy league.
Actually, MIT was featured in Captain America: Civil War and not in Avengers Age of Ultron as stated in the video.
Anthony Villegas I was just about to comment the same thing
It's also featured in the Iron Man comic books, since that's where Tony Stark supposedly graduated from at 17.
What about “21” ?
if it were in Age of Ultron then it wouldve been destroyed in a non existing country lol
It was also mentioned in the very first Iron Man film during the awards ceremony scene.
UCLA, USC, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Norte Dame, Emory...
Surprised Rice and Vanderbilt didn’t make it here
Baylor?
@@tidefanyankee2428 baylor is no where near this league!
Well, that's an opinion.
@Tyra C. I agree, but who knows what this statistics this was based on ...it is only an opinion on youtube after all.
@@tidefanyankee2428 Baylor isn't even a top 4 school in Texas fam, how would it make this list?
How is Caltech so much higher than MIT. Just because there isn’t snow?
Einstein gave lectures at Cal Tech, plus they have JPL and NASA.
JMikel213 the fact that Einstein lectures there ages ago should not effect the ranking. They have very similar rankings, reputation and difficulty of courses. They should be a lot closer together.
Fa Phanachet Caltech’s courses are more difficult than MIT’s. Google it
ProSoc10 it definitely depends on the subject. Besides, overall, MIT has a much higher ranking than Caltech. Also the standard of teaching is lower at Caltech. They are both really good schools anyways and my point is that they should not have such a difference in ranking in the video.
If y'all ever watch the Big Bang Theory, Howard is just a MIT master, while the rest of them are researchers in CalTech. (Leonard's PhD from Princeton I believe.) And, they made fun of Howard about it all the time. That says all. lol
I'm stuck, I can not confirm nor deny this list. But I am surprised by the list. Thumbs up.
For reference, U of M Ann Arbor is well known in my area of Michigan for being very tough to get into as a freshman but much less difficult to get into when you transfer, especially out of another lower ranked U of M campus. I’m not 100% sure if that’s intentional on the school’s part, but if someone gets into the Ann Arbor campus as a freshman, it’s considered a huge deal.
This is mostly for in state admissions, I’m not so sure about out of state.
I find Michigan more accessible than people think, especially for graduate studies. A family friend of mine settled near Detroit when he immigrated here and went to Dearborn then Ann Arbor. He’s a die-hard Wolverine and doesn’t care about prestige. His kids are going the same route. A lot of Penn State late bloomers start at a regional campus and finish at State College.
Sometimes being a local is the only thing you need to get into these schools, at least in post-grad life. The admissions office will understand.
I live in Michigan and I'm glad u of m got mentioned
JHU no longer has an option for freshmen to take their classes Pass/Fail. The covered grade system was terminated last year (2017). Unfortunately, I was entering Hopkins as a freshman in 2017... :/
Damn they left DeVry university out :(
And university of Phoenix ts rigged 😔
Miguel Brandao I know, it’s a shame 😔 hhahahhahah
DeVry not here? Imagine that😰😨😩
DeVry is basically an ivy, though
& Everest college too 😓
Can we give it these people for the amazing audios in their videos!!!
Great video! Also, M.I.T was actually featured in Captain America: Civil War.
Great video! Now do a top 10 about Med and public health schools in the U.S.
Nice video, could you do a top 10 outside of the US as well?
never thought i'd see a list with duke above MIT
Percent admitted is not a measure of selectivity; it is a function of number of applicants and predicted yield rate. A real measure of selectivity is what it takes to get in -- stats, extracurriculars, legacy points, etc.
Imo
1. Stanford
2. Uchicago
3. MIT
4. Caltech
5. Duke
6. Northwestern
7. Johns Hopkins
8. Vanderbilt
9. UCB
10. Rice
Your list is flawed.
Why UChicago so high?!
@@felixliang7558 it is great but surely not ahead of MIT or Caltech...
Garbage list…
I guess don't agree with lists on RUclips, but this is very good!!!!
Your comment makes absolutely no sense.
It'd be cool to see how you weighted and indexed the different colleges more precisely ...
Simply put. The best university or college is the one that works for the individual. I went to N.C. State University and cannot imagine getting a better education in Engineering. I had 3 job offers before I graduated including one in Research Triangle Park, which is very competitive. I later went to a private law school and it was just much more expensive than a state school. I probably paid double the cost of going to UNC law school for the same education. The most important thing is work ethic. Second is the major you study. Third and least important is the school you attend.
Yes...and no. The differences in a school like N.C. State and, say, Stanford are pretty stark. Not only does Stanford have vastly more resources to supplement your education, but the proximity to STEM jobs immediately after graduation and the positives with student networking at Stanford are two of its most valuable aspects. I agree that any competent and gifted student at NC State will do well. However, you'll have many more opportunities for success AT schools like Stanford and AFTER you graduate.
Your first two points (i.e., work ethic and major) are givens at such schools because of just how selective they are. You simply won't find mediocre students on campus. As the old proverb goes, "Iron sharpens iron." So, you'll find yourself rubbing shoulders with many of the nation's top students.
Moreover, the tangibles and intangibles at such top schools are often more difficult to grasp at lower ranked public or private universities (particularly those with smaller endowments and proximity a bit further outside of areas with more research jobs in particular fields). While the 'research triangle' exists in North Carolina, it's a bit smaller in total jobs and opportunities compared with Stanford's proximity to the Silicon Valley or Harvard's and MIT's proximity to Boston-Cambridge.
UC Berkeley is actually very easy to get into compared to the others on this list if you transfer from a California Community College. I just had a 3.71 GPA during community college and didn't participate in any clubs and got accepted into UC Berkeley for the upcoming fall. It's a real-life cheat code.
It's because Berkeley has so many dropouts in first 2 years
Agreed, many often do just that.
It’s because it’s the only public school on the list. But 22 percent acceptance rate (transfer) is by no means easy. You must’ve had something they were looking for, or you wrote a pretty bomb essay.
Congratulations 🎊, do they provide full funding opportunities for students at Graduate level?
@@blessingncube8743 I have no idea, I'm an undergrad
LOL! Was that Syracuse University SHADE at the end of the Duke part! "trees and stuff not covered in snow"
Rice, WashU, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame... These beat out some on the list in my opinion. Obviously schools like caltech and Berkeley make the list because of their intellectual reputation, but social/campus life should have a bearing on the ranking as well.
spencer chrein Exactly! WashU’s medical school beats out a lot on the list as well.
no way UWA over the other public ivies like UNC or UVA
I think this is just based on academics, not any social factors. I think academically the colleges you listed are just a notch below the ones listed here. Notre Dame probably way below...
Emory too
Riceee
I got into Northwestern and this video really warms my heart since a lot of people in my country don’t really understand how great it is. Failed to get into Stanford btw.
I am not really into advertising but this channel helped me a lot in my application/decision process. Thank you and your team!!!
Nuremir Babanov congrats on northwestern!
Yeah UCLA. Harvard, Stanford, and yale I believe are the most known outside the USA
I am also an incoming student at Northwestern. What is your major??
Tell me about it! Where I live people seem to not only not know about its greatness but also seem to think it’s a place for rejects!
What about Carnegie Mellon University?
What about The University of Washington (Seattle)? Great School!!
Great video thank you
I would also add any of those not mentioned that are mentioned in the books "Hidden Ivies" and "Public Ivies" and some of them were elite HBCU's
Fun fact: in 1953, CBS had the Johns Hopkins Science Hour on TV.
Vanderbilt should’ve been on here
Elliott Bright ikr
Elliott Bright Agreed!
Rice University also.
Of course Vanderbilt
Yea
Do a day in the life for the University of Michigan... I could help with the project!
Great job!
As someone who is starting their PhD at UC Berkeley this fall, it was very nice seeing them in the top 3!
MIT must be in Top 3.
Swarthmore should be there too, there also on like the top #5 liberal arts colleges and is highly selective
Music choice was bomb
The weather seems to play a big part in the choices of top schools.
You put Berkeley and Michigan In here over Vanderbilt? Or wash u in St. Louis? Emory? Georgetown? Notre Dame? Rice?
You should look up Berkeley's rankings by individual departments and you would understand why
Berkeley is one of the best in the world so...
JT Jones lmao Michigan is a powerhouse in rankings.
Of course Berkeley is better than Vanderbilt and Georgetown. For the note, I got into all. Lmao
Michigan is top in their engineering and CS departments
For me, an American, I really enjoy French so I intend to apply next year to Concordia university and McGill university in Montreal. McGill often ranks higher than some and is less selective than most Ivy League schools
nice! any school updates?
@@benmacmillan1323 i got into concordia! unfortunately no on mcgill :(
@@gemmahudack6182 oh sad to hear that mate, but nevertheless, all the best! Concordia is pretty good too 😄
Personally I'd also say that all of the public ivies are a pretty good way to attend an ivy league type school of sorts, but they're still all public schools. So if you live in a state with one of those public ivies, your chances of getting in go up if you apply and you have to pay less to go. They mentioned a few in this video but there's also other public ivies.
graduated from 2 on the list
Ultimately what is the best school for you and your interest. For engineering majors don't overlook Illinois/Urbana. Many of these Ivy league schools or near Ivy are pressure cookers. Balance and enjoying this period of your life is very important as well.
Yeah a School that makes you feel Good is what is needed for a particular Person in Academics or School
Can someone please inform this man that schools in Boston experience other weather besides snow and cold. There are 4 seasons for a reason
Kwaku Nyarko Too bad that doesnt happen in Boston...
Of course you go home for the Summer.
some tough calls here. M over UCLA? Williams but not Amherst? at least you included one of them... I also would have gone with Williams because of its commitment to collegiate athletics.
Agree with you!
Rice, Georgetown, Washington U and Vanderbilt????
I was waiting for the University of Texas at Austin
What about top 10 liberal art schools?
Thank you!
what's not talked about enough is how at some of these schools, the acceptance rate is higher if you're transferring from another school that's less competitive (or expensive). University of Michigan's regular acceptance rate is 23% while it's transfer acceptance rate is 39%... just some potentially useful information for anyone looking into colleges right now there's no shame in going to a local institution for your first two years. I'm in community college now but I'm active in my school clubs and organizations, have a high GPA, and have been making connections and I plan on applying to Michigan and some other somewhat selective schools (Emerson College, Trinity College Hartford to name a few). I would not have even been considered with my high school GPA but I've improved tremendously during my time in college which colleges care about the most.
sorry this was longer than I expected it to be, but just a helpful tip!
You are right. I graduated from the university that initially rejected me, lol. I attended a small college for my freshman year, performed well, and then transferred out (even got a scholarship).
Same thing with all the Florida Universities, especially University of Florida. Some of the acceptance rates look high but I believe all of the universities have a high acceptance rates for CC transfers. Their freshman rates are much lower. I went to a CC to save money.
You have a great strategy!.
Why should acceptance rate be talked about? It’s not a measure of prestige, but of exclusivity and elitism.
Any of the Claremonts?
Video request : top medical schools for international students
Great video!!!
Best information for international students
This is a lie if UCLA not on it don’t believe everything you hear the guy who made this top 10 list probably never went to college…
Extremely surprised Georgetown, Emory, Notre Dame, or even Vanderbilt didn't make it
notre dame is not even close to georgetown
and nyu
Part of the reason Georgetown is selective has to do with building ordinances. The real estate to a small area with no room for expansion. You can't build vertical because of its location along the Potomac River with FAA-security measures at DCA.
@@sebastianghersi8528 Notre dame is ranked higher than Georgetown though?
@@dchang11 This s not true at all.
NYU? Tufts? Rice? Pomona? Vandy?
Please do a video on top cybersecurity Grad schools in the US
Do a top 10 universities in Canada.
What about NYU?
How can you rank MIT 9 and Caltech 2? Why are you basing your ranking so highly on selectivity? That metric is so less telling than career success. MIT should at least be ranked in top 3, especially because it is ranked the top university in the world by QS.
BigNickPoodle You are right to question this but your hypothesis you posed is flawed. MIT has slightly lower acceptance rate than Caltech, so MIT is actually MORE selective.
Tbh I have no idea what the relative career successes of Caltech and MIT are, but while Caltech is suffocatingly small MIT has a larger student population so I am sure MIT by sheer numbers also has better "career success" than Caltech. This gives MIT a good reason to be ranked higher.
BigNickPoodle By your logic, then the rankings would be baised towards bigger schools right? Which would be unfair.
TheRealReal Yes, I guess that’s true. I also am not a fan of super small schools.
Agree! MIT should have been way up in the list...
Selectivity is determined by how many people apply. If they have a freshman class cap of 3000 and 50000 apply thats an acceptance rate of 6%. The less apply the higher the rate even though the same caliber of students are accepted.
You guys should do top 10 public schools in the country
No Ronald McDonald Hamburger University?? No credibility!
Not in the US
Basiesdr
At the start of this freshman year in high school I set one goal in my mind.
I am going to Stanford and nobody can stop me. Come back to this comment in 4 years.
Leak Central Best of luck. I hope you get in :)
Leak Central Good luck :)
Lol as a senior applying to a metric shitton of schools, here's my advice for a 4year game plan for stanford- 1) have an astronomical Gpa- take every AP IB class you can find. 2) 1500 SAT and 34 ACT minimum 3) at least three SAT subject tests with 730 minimum in each 4) start something. Because president of something else. Start another thing. 5) impress teachers NOW. their rec letters matter more than you think. 6) if you're a STEM kid, do a crap ton of research, get into competitions and WIN at them. Publish a paper before December of senior year. 7) if not a STEM kid then become varsity in a sport or a nationally recognized writer or artist or whatever you're into. Simply doing it won't be enough. You'll need to be the best. 8) when the time comes to write you essays, start early and write and revise and wrote and revise and write and revise x1000. Good luck.
Divyam K Publish a paper in high school? How unlikely that is...
@@ultimakey3111 I did it. If you have substantial research and the support of a professor it's not hard.
Kind of surprised UT Austin didn’t make it
Show ND some love
Middlebury? Rice? NYU? University of Va?
3:58 im from UM with a duel cs, double e, and quantum physics major.
Quantum physics isnt a major
NOTRE DAME, Emory, Vanderbilt, Pomona College, Wesleyan, Swarthmore, USC, WashU, Amherst, Barnard, Boston U, Bowdoin, Carleton, Claremont McKenna, Colgate, Davison, Denison, Grinnell, Mcalester, Rice, Oberlin, Tufts, and even Middlebury or Kalamazoo for privates
Public you got to have University of Virginia, some of the UCs, UNC Chapel Hill, University of Florida, Georgia, Texas at Austin, William and Mary, and hopefully Wisconsin Madison apart from the ones listed
Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering were blazing that stuff up every day.
Any list of top colleges that does not include the University of Phoenix is bogus
The thing is "Ivy League" is just a historical term for the sport league of the old NorthEastern schools. It doesn't mean quality. Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell and UofPenn are not better than those mentioned in the video. Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Virginia, UT Austin, Chicago..etc kick the ivys I mentioned above.
Ur wild. UPenn and Cornell are professional schools. None of these schools kick them in anything and perhaps Stanford Berkeley have better sciences but neither are known for being science schools. If you want a career in law, business, or finance anyone with half a brain would pick Penn and Cornell over any of those schools. Wharton alone crushes any of these schools in alumni and post grad payoff
In most states outside the northeast, usually that state university is the oldest and most distinguished institution in the state. In the New England and the Middle Atlantic States this is not the case because of the presence of distinguished private institutions dating back to the 18th Century (i.e, the Ivy League) . URI, SUNY campuses, UMass, UNH, Rutgers, Penn State and UCONN might therefore be called the _ _ _S _N Ivy League
Wisconsin?? Top programs, beautiful campus, and in the top 6 in research expenditures for years.
Went to two ivy league, wharton and hbs, but I have the greatest respect for non ivy like mit
Understand my skepticism...
No Rice, UT Austin or UVA unbelievably
Is the degree of engineering from liberal arts college any different from that of other universities?
There are so many colleges in the United States that are really famous. They have a lot of programmes to offer and have so many national and international students.
no georgetown?
uh why is it ranked from east coast to west coast? mit really at 9th and umich is placed above it?
I don't think it was in numeric order
Juan Marquis-Knight they go from 10th to 1st, kind of implying order
I get that but then I would assume MIT and Hopkins would be higher on the list especially over Michigan
For the past 50 or so years nearly all of MIT's presidents have been UMich grads, and THAT should tell you something!
What about West Point and the Naval Academy??
My list (non-exhaustive):
UChicago
WashU
(most) Big Ten universities
Stanford
Notre Dame
MIT
Caltech
tons of LACs (across the nation, in every region; could be secular or religious LACs)
conservatories like Peabody, Eastman and Curtis (if we put Julliard as the most popular)
the California public university system
Deep Springs College (2-year college)
Underrated engineering schools in the Midwest (often overlooked for Big Ten unis):
IIT
Michigan Tech
Rose Hulman
Not necessarily "top", but "good" to "decent" nonetheless:
SEC universities
regional universities that have a direction in their name like Eastern, Wester, Southern (smaller classes, more intimate-professional relationship w/ professors, cheaper tuition)
The beauty about the higher education landscape in the US is its diversity of options not replicated anywhere in the world. It's wide and deep, where there's a school for everyone, no matter if they're the traditional student or non-traditional student going back to school after 20 years of being in the workforce.
Washington University in St. Louis should be on the list.
No Georgetown????
i like it your video brother
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How about University of Notre Dame!!!
Mit's been the first on world universities' ranking for about 7 years now and you put it at 9???
My grandfather went to Michigan and John Hopkins
Your view on George Washington university for masters in data analytics?
i’m surprised UCLA and USC weren’t in this list
I wasn't surprised until they threw Michigan on. After that leaving UCLA off seemed weird.
m same! completely agree
Michigan is ranked higher in every department...
@@danieleom7360 ...no it isn't....UCLA is the #1 ranked public university in the nation...
@@conni70 He said the departments were ranked higher, not the uni.
Top Liberal Arts Colleges
Which universities offer the best Master of Tesol program?
Sadly, I think Johns Hopkins abolished pass/fail for first semrster grades. I think MIT still has it, though.
University of Maryland is a pretty good school too
MIT is #1 in my heart
Give us a day in the life Columbia
Williams is a gorgeous campus.