The orc origin story for the orcs is my favorite story in the game. To paraphrase: Each of the creator gods met at creation of the prime material. the dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, humans and orcs met to draw lots to determine which parts of the world was to be the birthright of their children. Elves got the forests, dwarves the mountains, humans a smattering of places and the roads between them, gnomes the caves and gullies, halflings the hills and prairies. Gruumsh looked upon the offerings and grimaced. There was nowhere left for the orcs. Gruumsh was mocked and insulted by the others for being so outsmarted and was enraged over the others cheating him. He lifted his spear, blasted the plains and made wastes, and struck into the world caves and ravines, claiming these lands for his orcs, to grow strong and take everything from his enemies. Gruumsh created Orcs out of spite for other gods, and on impulse stuck them alone in the harshest terrain on the world.
Orcs are fantastic. They can totally fill that slot of generic bad guy if you need them to, but just beneath the surface they are a potentially really interesting tribal society.
I See Orcs As Being One Of The Most Misunderstood Of The Races In A "The World Fears Us As Monsters,So We Will Be The Monsters That They Fear" Sort Of Way. You Can Imagine The Kind Of Racism Even The Peaceful,Co-Existing Orcs Suffer From People That Think All Orcs Are Just Big,Dumb Bruits That Will Eat Your Children And After Raiding Your Corpse.
I like that this video illustrates that a lot of the "cannon-fodder" that get used in campaigns actually have depth to them. When I run campaigns, I have a very firm self-imposed rule never to play kobolds, goblins, or orcs as simple, cookie-cutter, hollow bad guys. Goblins can be negotiated with, kobolds can be bribed and bargained with, orcs can be impressed by strength from non-orcs, and so on. I also make sure that most encounters can be solved without violence if my players are creative.
Luthic is brutally cunning, while Gruumsh is cunningly brutal. I sort of see the Orcs as having lots of elements of old Norse culture to them. You have a people that worship gods of war (complete with a one-eyed, spear-wielding god of war and storms as the patriarch as their pantheon and a goddess of fertility and protection as the wife of the one-eyed god), who come from lands most would consider inhospitable to explore and conquer more pleasant lands, and outsiders that haven't studied their culture typically view them as nothing more than barbarians and savages.
StevetheWizard Huh... you make some damn good points my man. It'd be great to see the Norse traditions of epic poetry, cleanliness, artisanal mead brewing, and rap battles as parts of Orcish culture as well.
Thar, is my favorite Orc and Orog setting.The promise of a nation, a history as kingdom elites but checked by internal war and human realms. The Ogre foe is constant and Goblin's bar meaningful progress. Great Orc chieftains and raiding parties on caravan traffic. Desolation and death, and no reason someone couldn't rise to claim the mantle of Tharkul. Great stuff!
Ever notice that the orc pantheon mirrors the Norse pantheon? Grummsh, like Odin, lost an eye and serves as a fatherly deity of battle. Thor and Bahgtru are both the hot-headed gods of strength that are considered the sons of the father deity. Tyr and Ilneval are both gods of strategy that serve to the head of the pantheon loyally. Frigg and Luthic are both mother deities who are married to the head of the pantheon and serve as powers behind the throne. Yurtus is a deity of death and disease who's entire body looks like a rotting corpse other than his white hands, similar to how Hel has half her body as a rotting corpse and a half as a normal woman. Finally, Shargaas is a assassin deity baring some resemblance to Loki, although this comparison is probably the weakest.
I've really come to like the idea of Orcs as boar-people that was shown in 1st edition D&D and has continued in Japanese media; it makes them stand out more from similar humanoid creatures like trolls, ogres, and goblinoids. Additionally, having orcs being descended from the likes of wild boars does a lot to explain many of their key features (tusks, aggression, tenacity, adaptability, etc) and possessing the same talent for explosive breeding would explain both why they're always coming into conflict with everyone else and why their race always manages to survive and bounce back from those conflicts (hence motherhood would be a very important and highly respected aspect of Orcish culture just as it's described here).
So I play an Orc Druid in a planewalking campaign, and we have it so that Orcs actually have a very weak and latent ancestral memory, and a fortunate few get to relive pivotal moments in the lives of their ancestors. However Orcish culture being as repressive and destructive as it is, even the Orcs themselves barely understand it as incidents are rare enough and even rarer still do they take the time to talk and reflect upon them. To most it is a random occurrence that is seen as a sign of favour by one's forefathers (or, depending on the content of the memory, a curse). My character, being one of the clan shamans, has long believed that the memory is more than that, that it is the most powerful feature of Orcish nature, and if they could consistently tap into this power they could become the greatest civilisation across the planes, limitless in potential. If you're familiar with the Society of Sensation from Sigil, his philosophy is very much in line with that, in that as far as he is concerned, lived experiences are the most valuable currency in the multiverse, and the only way to truly understand anything. My character left his tribe to exercise and hone this potential, and his mission is to explore and find what it REALLY means to be an Orc in this context, and to find what a wholesome existence looks like with this outlook. He wants to rewrite the rules for his kin, and elevate them from petty squabbles and short-sighted power games into a race that can be seen as the forefront of civilisation, with wisdom spanning eons as nothing is forgotten. I write this because watching this, I realised it is totally within the realms of possibility for him to literally meet his maker as he makes his way through the planes. His maker, but also the ideological vice that holds his kin in a state of stagnation. I hope, if that meeting does occur... Gruumsh has another eye going spare. He might need it after I'm done with him.
in my setting, orcs are a PC race, with a bushido/clan based society. Ogres have taken the standard Orc archetype as villains (and they rock as a horde of ogres is down right scary to newer players)
Everything? I thought they could just breed with humans outside of their own species. But does that mean there are dwarf-orcs, elf-orcs and dragonborn-orcs?
Why not? I just got done with a campaign in which my character came to find out that he had more elven blood in him than orcish. It didn't change his wild and thuggish outlook much, but at least he started treating the party wizard with more respect once he realized they were half-brothers.
Tiger Shark 378 the MM mentions Orcs & Humans as parents of the Half-Ogre, the PHB mentions Humans & Dwarves as parents of Half-Ofcs... & the list goes on
Kim Kimera Kimes no, they can breed with everything. Right now my Triton is pregnant with an Orc’s offspring. They’re going to make ugly half Orc and Triton babies lol.
Please please please make a video about half-orcs ;__; Half-orcs are my favorite race because I love exploring the internal/external conflicts that come from being stuck between two cultures like half-orcs are. I just have so many questions about how and why half-orcs are born, who their parents are, and how these things impact their identity. ;____; PLEASE TALK ABOUT HALF-ORCS xD
I never thought about them that way, but it makes a lot of sense! I love orcs more than any other fantasy race and to see another facet of them is wonderful
so day one i played DND i made Barbatos the Barbarian a half orc. through out the games i played and the changes the dm of the group had made, barbatos became a POWER house. he even was able to sneak up on the most stealthiest of the partys rough.
Honesty I would really like to see Player Character Orcs in the PHB when 6th edition rolls around. Ditto with stuff of like Kobolds, Lizardfolk, Goblins, Bullywugs maybe even some Gnolls etc.
Robert Macdonald There's a difference between being in one of the optional supplemental books and being in the core rulebook. Orcs, Goblinoids, and Kolbolds are as core to DnD as any of the other core races. But if you wanna play one you gotta buy an extra book. Plus there's a good chance if you are in a game where the DM doesn't have the extra books playing a one of them is less likely.
Johnathon Crines But here's the thing: they're not common or core adventurer races. In most fantasy worlds such creatures do not leave the tribe or go crusading against evil. A world where that did happen would be considered an alternative view on traditional fantasy, unless you were playing an evil campaign. The majority of adventuring bands are good or neutral, and the majority of them are composed of classic heroic or adventuring races. The PHB is big and expensive enough, extending the core player races section by a ton of pages to make room for rare adventurer races doesn't make much sense, especially when for the majority of those races non-evil individuals are considered a rarity.
I'm making a comic right now or the main character is an orc but not your typical orc as I've got in a mix between d&d orc, Skyrim orc, and Viking ish and my own style. I'm not sure how to label it but it looks good in my opinion.
Okay....Now what about in settings other than Realms? I'm starting to get a little annoyed by the D&D = Realms concept considering that there are so many other settings and cosmologies to explore and make use of.
In my world Gruumsh created the orcs after he lost that battle to Corellon. After he lost his eye to the elf god he saw the elves spring up from Corellons blood spilling on a grassy knoll, after giving his eye for this knowledge Gruumsh bleeds himself into the mud, forming ot into orc strong figure shaped after his image
honestly, this lore is great, idk why the wizards of the coast want to change the lore, I'm sure you can make good and compelling characters using this knowledge alone and def more so with the rest of the lore that is made
I’m so glad there are people who realize that Orcs are more than just evil brutes and destroy everything type of characters. Orcs are not inherently evil, and the idea gives players MORE to play with. My current character, a Triton, is in a relationship with an Orc whose life he saved. Took him a while for the Orc to get along with him, but it worked, and it made our DM have more ideas with the characters. Now the two are expecting ugly half Triton and Orc babies together lol.
I really want to play an orc druid, because I find the idea of needing to "PROTECT DA FLUFFY BUNNIES!! as a hulking dimwitted creature hilarious and fun to role play. But I'm trying to figure out what would drive an orc to this path. He would still be chaotic and aggressive, but not necessarily evil or part of a tribe so he can still go on adventures. Does anyone have any ideas how I could do that?
Might Be A Little Late (Seeing As You Asked This A Year Ago),But Maybe When He Was Young He Had A Pet And Or/Animal Friend That Was Cruelly Killed For Whatever Reason (Anything From His Father Thought He Was Becoming Weak,To Someone Killing It For Fun) And It Was Then That He Decided To Secretly Train In Druiding So He Could Protect All Wildlife,Left The Tribe Once He Had Become A Adult And Now Travels Around As A Full Druid That Will Go Into A PTSD Induced Rage If He Sees A Animal Being Harmed In Any Way.
I like Orcs with nuance. If you go the brutish Orc path, give them something else to go with it. Dont just throw a “big beefy dude” with nothing else in the story. Make him have connections with demons. Make him use really scrappy looking armor and constantly scavenging for better armor in a weird kleptomaniac “my armor is my trophy case” dude. Make him at least have a super badass weapon with big history.
Make Him Decide To Be The Care Taker And Protector Of A Very Young Girl That Rides On His Back And All Of His Destruction Is To Protect This Little Girl That Gives Him Hugs Because She Know's He's Secretly Just A Big Softy.
I play my Orcs as being controlled by semi-nomadic matriarchal clans who honour the goddess and occasionally trade with humans. Males hovever are kicked out once they come of age and either trail along behind the female clans scavenging scraps OR set out on their own as raiding parties (or mercenaries for hire by Dark Lords)
@@JT5555 I once stumble with an Orc camp like KoroWheke describes with my character. I inadverlty start filtring with females orcs. Now you know how that path went lol.
It seems like there is heaps of effort going into why orcs need to be evil within fiction and distancing them within the world away from Tolkien orcs but not much effort being put into distancing the orcs from the dangerous real world allegory thst Tolkien orcs carry. Is there a reason for this or do you have any future plans to remedy this?
Eamonn Tee What exactly are you suggesting? There's nothing left of the "dangerous" undertones present in Tolkien's work. I really don't understand what you think needs to change with the way orcs are commonly portrayed now.
Ezeckel Reichert just because they're not Tolkien orcs in the sense of "Dark Lord Saurons servants" doesn't mean they're separate from orcs as "An allegory for POC"
Tolkien has gone on record stating he does not like allegory and did not have his works display allegory. You are making comparisons that do not exist in the example you are sourcing, and thus doing a disservice to the work as a whole.
Eamonn Tee It's things like this that make me so despise pseudo-intellectual Progressivism. The fact that otherwise intelligent people subscribe to it is what makes it simultaneously so infuriating and dangerous. Here's the thing: what you just said is basically the most genuinely racist thing you could possibly say or think. First of all, merely the idea of collectively referring to all non-white people as "POC" is abhorrent to me. You are taking a group of nearly 6 billion people and slapping the OTHER label on them because your view of the world is skewed in such a way that you think it's a good thing to do. Not only that, you're also implying that people who don't fit under this umbrella (white people), are in some way a homogenous group which is definable only by a single shared characteristic. Given that this characteristic is skin color, and given that you're using the same singular consideration when you group every other human being on Earth into a single group, the only possible conclusion is that you're viewing the world from a fundamentally racist view point, and this view point is so lacking in self awareness that you think you're posing a legitimate question and combatting ignorance when you ask a fundamentally invalid and ignorant question. What you are doing is the equivalent of looking the movie "Inside Out" and proclaiming that the movie is racist because you've decided that each emotion is a racist caricature. Nevermind the fact that race wasn't even a consideration in creating those characters, and also ignoring the fact that the most obvious and logical way of interpreting any allegory you might see as part of shared human experience which disregards race. You're so obsessed with calling out racism wherever you see it that you've become unbelievably racist merely to serve that end. The worst part is that you're just one of many being puppeted by such ideology. It needs to stop, and the only way that happens is if you and people like you take a moment to consider what you're actually doing, because you are doing absolutely nothing but harm.
Ezeckel Reichert Ezeckel Reichert If you refuse to see the harm in Tolkiens work then I have no more to say to you. His intent may not have been directly racist but the effect is and that's what matters. You also seem to misunderstand what racism is and how it functions. Racism is not calling a group of people by the name a large majority prefer to be called by. You seem to think that by saying "Tolkien said some things about race that we should criticise" I am saying "I hate white people". Even worse you've backed yourself into a position of hate and bias pulling the "I hate progressiveism" card. Because from now on any argument I give no matter how strong will be ignored by you. Which is a shame. If you actually want to know more about this kind of subject there's plenty of stuff to read on it.
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The orc origin story for the orcs is my favorite story in the game. To paraphrase:
Each of the creator gods met at creation of the prime material. the dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, humans and orcs met to draw lots to determine which parts of the world was to be the birthright of their children. Elves got the forests, dwarves the mountains, humans a smattering of places and the roads between them, gnomes the caves and gullies, halflings the hills and prairies. Gruumsh looked upon the offerings and grimaced. There was nowhere left for the orcs. Gruumsh was mocked and insulted by the others for being so outsmarted and was enraged over the others cheating him. He lifted his spear, blasted the plains and made wastes, and struck into the world caves and ravines, claiming these lands for his orcs, to grow strong and take everything from his enemies. Gruumsh created Orcs out of spite for other gods, and on impulse stuck them alone in the harshest terrain on the world.
Do you have a source for this? Just curious!
Tim Bumpus original Deities and Demi-Gods book from 1st edition or 2nd edition I believe.
Nerdachist Dave
An orcigin story, if you will.
Lol orcigin
@@Nerdarchy Also in the monster manual 5e
Orcs are fantastic. They can totally fill that slot of generic bad guy if you need them to, but just beneath the surface they are a potentially really interesting tribal society.
I See Orcs As Being One Of The Most Misunderstood Of The Races In A "The World Fears Us As Monsters,So We Will Be The Monsters That They Fear" Sort Of Way. You Can Imagine The Kind Of Racism Even The Peaceful,Co-Existing Orcs Suffer From People That Think All Orcs Are Just Big,Dumb Bruits That Will Eat Your Children And After Raiding Your Corpse.
We aint had nothin but maggoty bread for threeee STINKIN DAAAYS
Yeah! What about some meat?
Looks like meat's back on the menu boys
Memorandom What 'bout them? They're fresh!
They are NOT for eating.
Snowskeeper Ferenczy What about their legs? They don't need those! Oooh they look tasty!
I like that this video illustrates that a lot of the "cannon-fodder" that get used in campaigns actually have depth to them. When I run campaigns, I have a very firm self-imposed rule never to play kobolds, goblins, or orcs as simple, cookie-cutter, hollow bad guys. Goblins can be negotiated with, kobolds can be bribed and bargained with, orcs can be impressed by strength from non-orcs, and so on. I also make sure that most encounters can be solved without violence if my players are creative.
No violence? What's the point then?
(I play barbarians and fighters 🤣)
Luthic is brutally cunning, while Gruumsh is cunningly brutal.
I sort of see the Orcs as having lots of elements of old Norse culture to them. You have a people that worship gods of war (complete with a one-eyed, spear-wielding god of war and storms as the patriarch as their pantheon and a goddess of fertility and protection as the wife of the one-eyed god), who come from lands most would consider inhospitable to explore and conquer more pleasant lands, and outsiders that haven't studied their culture typically view them as nothing more than barbarians and savages.
StevetheWizard
Huh... you make some damn good points my man. It'd be great to see the Norse traditions of epic poetry, cleanliness, artisanal mead brewing, and rap battles as parts of Orcish culture as well.
Luthic protec, but she also attac
KeSMinn because she thicc
Most of all, she make up for what Gruumsh lacc.
Thar, is my favorite Orc and Orog setting.The promise of a nation, a history as kingdom elites but checked by internal war and human realms. The Ogre foe is constant and Goblin's bar meaningful progress. Great Orc chieftains and raiding parties on caravan traffic. Desolation and death, and no reason someone couldn't rise to claim the mantle of Tharkul. Great stuff!
*LOOKS LIKE MEATS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!!!*
Just this last Sunday I DMed an attack of almost 50 orcs against a small town and 4 lvl 4 PC's! Luckily we had a great session.
Ever notice that the orc pantheon mirrors the Norse pantheon? Grummsh, like Odin, lost an eye and serves as a fatherly deity of battle. Thor and Bahgtru are both the hot-headed gods of strength that are considered the sons of the father deity. Tyr and Ilneval are both gods of strategy that serve to the head of the pantheon loyally. Frigg and Luthic are both mother deities who are married to the head of the pantheon and serve as powers behind the throne. Yurtus is a deity of death and disease who's entire body looks like a rotting corpse other than his white hands, similar to how Hel has half her body as a rotting corpse and a half as a normal woman. Finally, Shargaas is a assassin deity baring some resemblance to Loki, although this comparison is probably the weakest.
You should make a video about the Kingdom of Many Arrows.
Great videos!!!! Pls keep up the great work! Videos are fantastic!
They really need to do one of these on Hobgoblins, those guys never get enough love
Woul love the see new options for player characters orcs, like Tanaruks.
I've really come to like the idea of Orcs as boar-people that was shown in 1st edition D&D and has continued in Japanese media; it makes them stand out more from similar humanoid creatures like trolls, ogres, and goblinoids. Additionally, having orcs being descended from the likes of wild boars does a lot to explain many of their key features (tusks, aggression, tenacity, adaptability, etc) and possessing the same talent for explosive breeding would explain both why they're always coming into conflict with everyone else and why their race always manages to survive and bounce back from those conflicts (hence motherhood would be a very important and highly respected aspect of Orcish culture just as it's described here).
What happened to the savage pigmen? Someone in the art team has been playing World of Warcraft.
WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Oh wait, wrong orcs.
Cerrack _ Orks is best!
XENOS! "Foul Greenskins approach!" Suffer not the Alien to live! Victorus aut Mortis...
Dakka Dakka Dakka!!!
Green is best!
We Da bestest Urks. I Da biggest strongest Urk.
So I play an Orc Druid in a planewalking campaign, and we have it so that Orcs actually have a very weak and latent ancestral memory, and a fortunate few get to relive pivotal moments in the lives of their ancestors. However Orcish culture being as repressive and destructive as it is, even the Orcs themselves barely understand it as incidents are rare enough and even rarer still do they take the time to talk and reflect upon them. To most it is a random occurrence that is seen as a sign of favour by one's forefathers (or, depending on the content of the memory, a curse). My character, being one of the clan shamans, has long believed that the memory is more than that, that it is the most powerful feature of Orcish nature, and if they could consistently tap into this power they could become the greatest civilisation across the planes, limitless in potential. If you're familiar with the Society of Sensation from Sigil, his philosophy is very much in line with that, in that as far as he is concerned, lived experiences are the most valuable currency in the multiverse, and the only way to truly understand anything.
My character left his tribe to exercise and hone this potential, and his mission is to explore and find what it REALLY means to be an Orc in this context, and to find what a wholesome existence looks like with this outlook. He wants to rewrite the rules for his kin, and elevate them from petty squabbles and short-sighted power games into a race that can be seen as the forefront of civilisation, with wisdom spanning eons as nothing is forgotten.
I write this because watching this, I realised it is totally within the realms of possibility for him to literally meet his maker as he makes his way through the planes. His maker, but also the ideological vice that holds his kin in a state of stagnation. I hope, if that meeting does occur... Gruumsh has another eye going spare. He might need it after I'm done with him.
Fantastic concept for a character! Your DM is fortunate to have you as a player. 🙂 Has he had a chance to meet his maker yet?
We Orcs can’t be stopped that is our strength, plus we are stronger than the rest.
in my setting, orcs are a PC race, with a bushido/clan based society. Ogres have taken the standard Orc archetype as villains (and they rock as a horde of ogres is down right scary to newer players)
and Orcs can breed with pretty much everything, which makes their goddesses the best the best fertility god(desse)s!
Everything? I thought they could just breed with humans outside of their own species. But does that mean there are dwarf-orcs, elf-orcs and dragonborn-orcs?
Why not? I just got done with a campaign in which my character came to find out that he had more elven blood in him than orcish. It didn't change his wild and thuggish outlook much, but at least he started treating the party wizard with more respect once he realized they were half-brothers.
Kim Kimera Kimes there's something called Ogrillons which is an Orc and Ogre half-breed
Tiger Shark 378 the MM mentions Orcs & Humans as parents of the Half-Ogre, the PHB mentions Humans & Dwarves as parents of Half-Ofcs... & the list goes on
Kim Kimera Kimes no, they can breed with everything. Right now my Triton is pregnant with an Orc’s offspring. They’re going to make ugly half Orc and Triton babies lol.
They just can't give up the WAAAAGH!.
Please please please make a video about half-orcs ;__; Half-orcs are my favorite race because I love exploring the internal/external conflicts that come from being stuck between two cultures like half-orcs are. I just have so many questions about how and why half-orcs are born, who their parents are, and how these things impact their identity. ;____;
PLEASE TALK ABOUT HALF-ORCS xD
There IS a video about them lol
Luthic is my favorite D&D deity since i first read about her in 3.5
I never thought about them that way, but it makes a lot of sense! I love orcs more than any other fantasy race and to see another facet of them is wonderful
Gruumsh: I AM GRUUMSH!!!
luthic: hush husband.
Gruumsh: yes dear.
Bahgtru: MOMMY RULES!!!
Orcs and half-orcs are my favorite races. 👍🏾
Awesome video!
I am interested in playing Half-Orc Conquest Paladin or Barbarian of Luthic.
Daniel Franco IMO conquest sounds more like Gruumsh
so day one i played DND i made Barbatos the Barbarian a half orc. through out the games i played and the changes the dm of the group had made, barbatos became a POWER house. he even was able to sneak up on the most stealthiest of the partys rough.
The new orcs just look like big goblins. I keep the pig faced ones from Ad&d.
In my homebrew, there is a town of CG orcs, that's the equivalent of a old western town where the orcs are similar to cowboys.
moo that sounds awesome!
Wait,Are Orcs Even Able To Ride Horses Or Would They Be Too Heavy?XD
Luthic: She protec, but she also attac.
Honesty I would really like to see Player Character Orcs in the PHB when 6th edition rolls around. Ditto with stuff of like Kobolds, Lizardfolk, Goblins, Bullywugs maybe even some Gnolls etc.
They alread have that for 5e. Volo's Guide to Monsters has rules to play Orcs, Goblins, Kobolds, Lizardfolk, Tabaxi and Tritons.
Robert Macdonald There's a difference between being in one of the optional supplemental books and being in the core rulebook. Orcs, Goblinoids, and Kolbolds are as core to DnD as any of the other core races. But if you wanna play one you gotta buy an extra book. Plus there's a good chance if you are in a game where the DM doesn't have the extra books playing a one of them is less likely.
Johnathon Crines But here's the thing: they're not common or core adventurer races. In most fantasy worlds such creatures do not leave the tribe or go crusading against evil. A world where that did happen would be considered an alternative view on traditional fantasy, unless you were playing an evil campaign. The majority of adventuring bands are good or neutral, and the majority of them are composed of classic heroic or adventuring races. The PHB is big and expensive enough, extending the core player races section by a ton of pages to make room for rare adventurer races doesn't make much sense, especially when for the majority of those races non-evil individuals are considered a rarity.
You made them into Warcraft Orcs, what happened to the big hairy Man-bear-pigs?
Knight of Pencils I asked the same of the Dog-men kobolds.
Kobolds also had a change. Before, they were rat people, now they are dragon bugs.
Lok'tar Ograr??
WAAAGH!
thats more hobgoblins
an Orcish Matriarchy would be awesome to see: the male rule by power, but they're always subject to the wisdom of the Elder Grandmother of the horde
Fabius Maximus yeah, but that could also be just the influence of Luthic
Canonically, orcs view women as being barely above cattle, the priestesses of Luthic are glorified tradwives
I'm making a comic right now or the main character is an orc but not your typical orc as I've got in a mix between d&d orc, Skyrim orc, and Viking ish and my own style. I'm not sure how to label it but it looks good in my opinion.
in which Todd gets a tan. :)
Just an trivial info:
In Turkish
mağlubiyet=defeat
kurtulmak=
Common Usage- get rid of
General- defaecate
General- be freed
DarkSteellotus I’m native speaker. It’s never Defecate.
Tureng sagolsun :)
So Orcs are basically Krogan. I love it
Except nobody has figured out how to stem their rampant breeding yet. :P
I mean.
Krogan are basically Orcs.
Orcs in my campaign are still very much pig faced :)
The origin of Orcs?
Porks.
What do you get when a tribe of orcs gets trapped in the Feywild? Forks.
Okay....Now what about in settings other than Realms?
I'm starting to get a little annoyed by the D&D = Realms concept considering that there are so many other settings and cosmologies to explore and make use of.
To Be Fair,Orcs Are Pretty Great.
WHO ATE ALL THE BABIES?!
So...would Lothig be the god of brutal cunning or cunning brutality?
these videos are amazing, but please, can you speak louder or do something to make the volume higher?
this, a million times this!
Me too like orc too
In my world Gruumsh created the orcs after he lost that battle to Corellon. After he lost his eye to the elf god he saw the elves spring up from Corellons blood spilling on a grassy knoll, after giving his eye for this knowledge Gruumsh bleeds himself into the mud, forming ot into orc strong figure shaped after his image
Can we get episodes about aasmire and teiflings?
honestly, this lore is great, idk why the wizards of the coast want to change the lore, I'm sure you can make good and compelling characters using this knowledge alone and def more so with the rest of the lore that is made
Mike, I'm glad the beard is gone
I’m so glad there are people who realize that Orcs are more than just evil brutes and destroy everything type of characters. Orcs are not inherently evil, and the idea gives players MORE to play with. My current character, a Triton, is in a relationship with an Orc whose life he saved. Took him a while for the Orc to get along with him, but it worked, and it made our DM have more ideas with the characters. Now the two are expecting ugly half Triton and Orc babies together lol.
Sweet
Can we talk about the hobgoblins? i really like the idea of this being a new playable character
Kinda new.
Hobgoblins were one of the playable 'humanoid' races in AD&D Second Edition.
:-)
So on scale of “Most evil” to “neutral being” for Orcs are like: Lord of the Rings, DnD, Warcraft, and Elder Scrolls.
WHAAAAGGHHH!!!!
What kind of afterlife do female orcs go to?
I really want to play an orc druid, because I find the idea of needing to "PROTECT DA FLUFFY BUNNIES!! as a hulking dimwitted creature hilarious and fun to role play. But I'm trying to figure out what would drive an orc to this path. He would still be chaotic and aggressive, but not necessarily evil or part of a tribe so he can still go on adventures. Does anyone have any ideas how I could do that?
Might Be A Little Late (Seeing As You Asked This A Year Ago),But Maybe When He Was Young He Had A Pet And Or/Animal Friend That Was Cruelly Killed For Whatever Reason (Anything From His Father Thought He Was Becoming Weak,To Someone Killing It For Fun) And It Was Then That He Decided To Secretly Train In Druiding So He Could Protect All Wildlife,Left The Tribe Once He Had Become A Adult And Now Travels Around As A Full Druid That Will Go Into A PTSD Induced Rage If He Sees A Animal Being Harmed In Any Way.
I like Orcs with nuance. If you go the brutish Orc path, give them something else to go with it. Dont just throw a “big beefy dude” with nothing else in the story. Make him have connections with demons. Make him use really scrappy looking armor and constantly scavenging for better armor in a weird kleptomaniac “my armor is my trophy case” dude. Make him at least have a super badass weapon with big history.
Make Him Decide To Be The Care Taker And Protector Of A Very Young Girl That Rides On His Back And All Of His Destruction Is To Protect This Little Girl That Gives Him Hugs Because She Know's He's Secretly Just A Big Softy.
Who tf is he looking at?
I play my Orcs as being controlled by semi-nomadic matriarchal clans who honour the goddess and occasionally trade with humans. Males hovever are kicked out once they come of age and either trail along behind the female clans scavenging scraps OR set out on their own as raiding parties (or mercenaries for hire by Dark Lords)
So They Are Basically Hyenas.XD
@@JT5555 I once stumble with an Orc camp like KoroWheke describes with my character. I inadverlty start filtring with females orcs. Now you know how that path went lol.
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 I Do: The Best Possible Way.>;3
It seems like there is heaps of effort going into why orcs need to be evil within fiction and distancing them within the world away from Tolkien orcs but not much effort being put into distancing the orcs from the dangerous real world allegory thst Tolkien orcs carry. Is there a reason for this or do you have any future plans to remedy this?
Eamonn Tee
What exactly are you suggesting? There's nothing left of the "dangerous" undertones present in Tolkien's work. I really don't understand what you think needs to change with the way orcs are commonly portrayed now.
Ezeckel Reichert just because they're not Tolkien orcs in the sense of "Dark Lord Saurons servants" doesn't mean they're separate from orcs as "An allegory for POC"
Tolkien has gone on record stating he does not like allegory and did not have his works display allegory. You are making comparisons that do not exist in the example you are sourcing, and thus doing a disservice to the work as a whole.
Eamonn Tee
It's things like this that make me so despise pseudo-intellectual Progressivism. The fact that otherwise intelligent people subscribe to it is what makes it simultaneously so infuriating and dangerous.
Here's the thing: what you just said is basically the most genuinely racist thing you could possibly say or think.
First of all, merely the idea of collectively referring to all non-white people as "POC" is abhorrent to me. You are taking a group of nearly 6 billion people and slapping the OTHER label on them because your view of the world is skewed in such a way that you think it's a good thing to do. Not only that, you're also implying that people who don't fit under this umbrella (white people), are in some way a homogenous group which is definable only by a single shared characteristic. Given that this characteristic is skin color, and given that you're using the same singular consideration when you group every other human being on Earth into a single group, the only possible conclusion is that you're viewing the world from a fundamentally racist view point, and this view point is so lacking in self awareness that you think you're posing a legitimate question and combatting ignorance when you ask a fundamentally invalid and ignorant question.
What you are doing is the equivalent of looking the movie "Inside Out" and proclaiming that the movie is racist because you've decided that each emotion is a racist caricature. Nevermind the fact that race wasn't even a consideration in creating those characters, and also ignoring the fact that the most obvious and logical way of interpreting any allegory you might see as part of shared human experience which disregards race.
You're so obsessed with calling out racism wherever you see it that you've become unbelievably racist merely to serve that end. The worst part is that you're just one of many being puppeted by such ideology. It needs to stop, and the only way that happens is if you and people like you take a moment to consider what you're actually doing, because you are doing absolutely nothing but harm.
Ezeckel Reichert Ezeckel Reichert If you refuse to see the harm in Tolkiens work then I have no more to say to you. His intent may not have been directly racist but the effect is and that's what matters. You also seem to misunderstand what racism is and how it functions. Racism is not calling a group of people by the name a large majority prefer to be called by. You seem to think that by saying "Tolkien said some things about race that we should criticise" I am saying "I hate white people". Even worse you've backed yourself into a position of hate and bias pulling the "I hate progressiveism" card. Because from now on any argument I give no matter how strong will be ignored by you. Which is a shame. If you actually want to know more about this kind of subject there's plenty of stuff to read on it.
The Orcs sounds like the hardcore "conservatives" in this world!