The best gas boiler for 2024/25, the ideal vogue what changes have been made from gen 1 to gen 2.

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • Derek in this video takes us through the changes that ideal have made to their vogue boiler over the years.
    buy at www.tomkatphs.co.uk

Комментарии • 43

  • @RS.Outdoors
    @RS.Outdoors 3 месяца назад +1

    Perfect timing. In process of replacing my Worcester Greenstar 30cdi that has not needed a thing repaired in 16 years and still running. However as I was replacing all the radiators and new pipework to 15mm from old 6mm microbore I decided it maybe best now to change the boiler. But now torn between the Bosch 4000 24kw or new Ecotec Plus 826. The cost of the wireless thermostat and controls on the Vaillant to get best out of it are a bit much though.

  • @andrians3852
    @andrians3852 7 дней назад

    Hi mate nice work. Can you please advise how many kw combi boiler I can use for underfloor heating on 3 bedrooms house 2 levels Just under floor heating, thanks for your time!

  • @gasfitter78
    @gasfitter78 3 месяца назад

    Great video very informative

  • @cvarsani2190
    @cvarsani2190 2 месяца назад

    Great informational videos, would love to see one discuss the use of Close Coupled Tee in multi zone systems with a practical demo also 🙏🏾

  • @SeanRidley-g7z
    @SeanRidley-g7z 3 месяца назад +5

    The worst boiler manufacturer / water heater maker in my experience has got to be Ariston. They have left my customer 3 weeks with no hot water. I fitted a new Ariston evo water heater 10 months ago. The customer had an A6 fault. It took over a week for the engineer to call. He came and said I have no idea what the problem is. I'll order some parts? As of today still waiting for the parts/ engineer. The customer is in his 80's, just had a stroke and hasn't had hot water for 3 + weeks. I will never install another Ariston product. Piss poor service.

    • @jackclowry9644
      @jackclowry9644 3 месяца назад

      Me personally would of fitted intergas rapid as this can be set up as an instantaneous water heater by simple changes to parameters. Really poor from ariston though best of luck with it.

    • @markchristohperowen6806
      @markchristohperowen6806 3 месяца назад

      ariston parts are very expensive too. ill give you an example same aav in some older aristons is the one used in bosch boilers different end caps. probably made in same factory in china. one is x3 the price of the other. same thing different price. theres whole newbuild estates round my way using aristons that were fitted poorly. lcd screens and soldered in transformers etc on pcbs. stupid prices. very bad design. one part goes change the lot. if they sepirated things........disgusting service, personally if that was my customer and they recieved this service id be doing a little more than talking to gas safe. probably take it to MP and looking for CEO emails for ariston. mind you i sat in on a british gas service. ok the customer has insurance but service to MI. capita who runs gas safe also own british gas.......and probably all gas safe registration, including trainers.

  • @andrewtomlinson18
    @andrewtomlinson18 3 месяца назад +1

    Whatever the make as long as it’s been installed by a qualified/competent engineer and serviced annually they are all pretty good

  • @AndFrancis17
    @AndFrancis17 3 месяца назад

    Definitely the Gen 1
    Great boiler to install and to maintain

  • @jjohnson-stoker
    @jjohnson-stoker 3 месяца назад +1

    Im sticking with my intergas. 10 years old and just had a new gas valve. That and a door seal is all its ever had. And regular servicing of course.

    • @davideyres955
      @davideyres955 3 месяца назад +1

      I’m sticking with my Potterton Flamingo RS50S, been in my house since I bought it 24 years ago. Just had to have a gas valve replaced, but apart from that occasional servicing everything else is as when I bought the house. I suspect it’s the original boiler from when the house was built in the 80s.
      Sure it’s not efficient as a new boiler but it’s a tank and has very little to go wrong. It’s a shame so much of the boiler is obsolete and parts are hard to get now.

    • @andrewrudge5652
      @andrewrudge5652 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@davideyres955Much like my 1987 glowworm space saver. Mine since new, had new fan bearings 10/12 years ago, that's it. As you say, built like a tank.

  • @Sas-r5f
    @Sas-r5f 3 месяца назад +1

    Hello, I greatly appreciate your videos and find them very informative. I have a question regarding the Baxi Solo's air intake. It is currently displaying 18.1% Co26 instead of the expected 20.9%. I turned off the boiler due to issues with the seals, but someone turned it back on. What are your thoughts on this situation?

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад +1

      The flue integrity test is between 20.6 and 20.9 for o2. Where did you take your readings from?. If someone else has turned it back on the problem becomes their problem not yours so if anything did happen they are to blame not you. Hope that helps

    • @Sas-r5f
      @Sas-r5f 3 месяца назад

      @@tomkatgastraining well behind the PCB where the grommet is, u insert my Kane probe in, and was 18.1% integrity with actual Co27 Baxi said it should he between 20.6%-20.9% which wasn't.

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад

      @@Sas-r5f I thought that’s where you would do it. In my opinion that’s not testing flue integrity because you could also pick up readings from the heat exchanger it’s the same when ideal take the drain plug out at the bottom and call that flue integrity.

  • @keithward233
    @keithward233 3 месяца назад

    I have a 1997 vokera mynute thats done well so far . However when it goes i think a Viessman 111 w is next . I do have a Logic +combi in my shed awaiting an lpg conversion and installed for heating the shed/ cabin .

  • @ciaranclose192
    @ciaranclose192 3 месяца назад +2

    Heads gone.. vaillants new ecotec plus is by far the best boiler ever released to market.. the others now have a job trying to make ground

    • @markchristohperowen6806
      @markchristohperowen6806 3 месяца назад +2

      vaillant repair engineers can not be trusted. their back up is being pushed to someone on a spreadsheet(horrible experience) usually a young girl in a call center that has no clue and thats after waiting hours on phone for advice.. its a good product. but then add on the extras. that most customers will not need or understand. i prefer the vogue.

    • @deanchapple1
      @deanchapple1 3 месяца назад

      Viessmann 200-W is by far the best on the market.

    • @markchristohperowen6806
      @markchristohperowen6806 3 месяца назад

      @@deanchapple1 i agree they are very very good. much better than vaillants. tourqe wrench settings etc wrenches calibrated every year another added cost that i need to pass on to the customer. horses for courses.

  • @hazelbulgin638
    @hazelbulgin638 3 месяца назад

    Can you recommend a good press gun please

  • @accesszero4803
    @accesszero4803 3 месяца назад

    My favourite boiler, but try buying a pump for a gen 1

    • @charlieb8582
      @charlieb8582 3 месяца назад

      You just have to build an extension on your house to store it

  • @amcluesent
    @amcluesent 3 месяца назад +1

    Do I need to point out you didn't perform a safe to touch test after removing the boiler's cover? Safety is everyone's No.1 priority

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад

      NO

    • @markchristohperowen6806
      @markchristohperowen6806 3 месяца назад

      before going near it hes in a test center. with mold spots on the walls.

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад

      @@markchristohperowen6806 sorry what are you trying to say as you’re comment makes no sense to me 🤔

    • @markchristohperowen6806
      @markchristohperowen6806 3 месяца назад

      just look. you as a tester should be showing others. mold spores. you got a -5 on. first check second check third check. ?

  • @louisdisbury9759
    @louisdisbury9759 3 месяца назад

    Those things have got so many flaws, We are approved Worcester installers and have been for 30 years, unbeatable boilers.

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад +1

      @@louisdisbury9759 all boilers have their flaws ie the fan board blowing on the junior when you turn the fuse spur back on

  • @nigelwilliams7403
    @nigelwilliams7403 3 месяца назад

    My Gen2 still going strong!

  • @mrmeg01
    @mrmeg01 2 месяца назад

    Sponsored by ideal boilers

  • @jasonoliver9549
    @jasonoliver9549 3 месяца назад

    Being all plastic in the gen2 guess u need a shock arrestor

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад

      @@jasonoliver9549 only if you have a non return valve in the cold water main

  • @stevecottrell5856
    @stevecottrell5856 3 месяца назад +1

    So the best boiler for 2024/25 is a 2014 model. Sorry mate but not interested in your Ideal adverts.

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  3 месяца назад +1

      @@stevecottrell5856 not an ideal advert it’s our on line shop advert 😜 also guess you didn’t watch the full video 🤔

    • @stevecottrell5856
      @stevecottrell5856 3 месяца назад

      @@tomkatgastrainingThe title is the best boiler for 2024/25. At the end you say you prefer the gen 1. So yes I watched it.

  • @Ash78699
    @Ash78699 Месяц назад

    The worst boiler ever I’d never have one even if offered free. They are prone to breaking down frequently and will not last 1 year, that’s why engineers love them for the constant breakdowns and the amount of money they can make back in a short space of time. Ideal will wash their hands during the warranty period!!!!

    • @80skid83
      @80skid83 15 дней назад +1

      Had a ideal boiler for over 10 years , no breakdown