I Was Right About Top Thrill Dragster (Unfortunately)
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I think we need to ask ourselves, is Zamperla really as bad as we think they are? Other than the Volares, I don't think so. Even if the Thunderbolts aren't glass smooth, Zamperla has shown great potential as a manufacturer and now they have the ultimate oppurtunity to prove themselves. Do we still judge Vekoma on the SLCs or the corkscrew with bayerncurves? No we don't.
GREAT COMMENT! You put into words what many people need to hear!
A new Formula for thrills. Formula at energylandia = new dragster?
Yes but literally earlier this year they failed to build a reliable wild mouse and the decision to go with zamperla will come back to bite them
This is the world’s most polarising coaster and it hasn’t even been announced yet
But new-gen Vekoma started out with a small-scale model. Not one of the world's tallest rollercoasters.
Zamperla hasn't created anything good, and they're renovating a strata. Meanwhile, Vekoma hasn't even gotten to build a hyper yet, despite their impressive track record.
I think, if Zamperla wants to turn themselves around, they should start by building an actually good rollercoaster at Luna Park. But no. Cedar Fair hired a company with no track record. For no reason.
i got to try out the trains at iaapa in 2021, they're really the best. they use two hydraulics so that the restraint cannot be pushed up or down once locked into place (no thighs getting crushed from forces). they have a lot of enthusiasts working there, it looks like a bright future!
I'm really glad you commented this, It gives validation to the hope I've had for years.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@ChrisDash-zt6sq dude, we get it, no need to continue copy and pasting this exact same comment multiple times on every Dragster video you see, time for some new thoughts
The trains do look pretty awesome, that's the one thing I'm excited about. Of course, we could have had equivalent trains from Intamin...but didn't change the fact that we'll keep the open lap bar feel as the original
Cedar Fair’s divorce from Intamin is unfortunate. It’s a shame that they wouldn’t even give Intamin a second chance in spite of their past mistakes.
Considering that Intamin is making a huge comeback in North America, this divorce is going to bite Cedar Fair in the ass if they aren’t willing to give their new stuff a chance. Their competition is already eating up new Intamin coasters, and these investments have totally paid off.
This is unfortunate news.
It is quite unfortunate, hopefully they at least considered Intamin for the project.
Cedar Fair is cutting their own throat. Pantheon is an amazing dependable ride. Zamperla is kiddy ride junk
We treat Zamperla the same way we treat Vekoma prior to Formula at Energylandia, The absolute laughingstock of the coaster community. Sidenote, I lowkey was hoping that Mack Rides would do the Dragster project if Intamin couldn't given how awesome Beyond the Cloud's layout is.
That is a very good point! I agree Mack would have been cool!
yah
Vekoma also would've been pretty cool
A Mack launch would guarantee a rollback on the tophat. 😅
@@DJWezzyKfr lmfao
I think it'll be good. I remember when Six Flags played a wild card & took a chance on Rocky Mountain Coasters to redesign the iconic Texas Giant. I'd say that worked out pretty well.
That is so true! It worked out amazingly, So I think some enthusiasts need to take a chill pill on this one.
That's completely different.
RMC had no track record. Zamperla has a terrible track record.
There were no alternatives to RMC.
There are alternatives to Zamperla.
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster your nuts!
I am so glad I got to ride the original Dragster. I am sure the new Dragster will be great, but I am just so thankful I got to ride the original one and remember the experience perfectly in my head.
weve had a lot of weird coaster stuff come out this year. Funspot got a freaking RMC and made the preview in ultimate coaster two where the ride was shown bashing trees, premier rides absolutely trolled us saying "something wild is coming" right around the wildcats revenge hype speculation, so everybody thought we'd get a launch, but then they just made a schwarzkopf wildcat instead, and now Zamperla is making a 400 foot coaster. I wouldnt trust them to make a reliable hypercoaster with no launch. What the actual heck happened this year.
This year was so strange, I would have never guessed of even half of the stuff that happened.
Considering the accident, I wouldn’t be surprised if it either moved it’s queue to not be in the center of the coaster, or they’re going to keep the current queue and enforce a no loose article policy
I think they probably will do both, move the queue slightly and have a strict policy.
They could simply enclose the queue line with a roof instead of pissing more people off by making them buy lockers.
@@oceanthresher6184 they’re prob gonna be like steel vengeances locker policy; paid lockers at the start of the queue and free smaller double sided lockers if they’re implementing metal detectors
In that case, they need to enforce the no loose article policy to the rollercoasters themselves
Wouldn't be surprised if Zamperla intentionally undercut themselves just to have the opportunity to put themselves on the map by refurbishing one of the most iconic coasters in the world.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@@ChrisD72all the rides at CP have been up and down this year not just wild mouse
@@alexanderivascu5261 I haven't even seen wild mouse go down yet.
@@ChrisD72 Intamin's Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure was plague with problems.
@@zachjones2346but that has a reason to. It is probably the most complex ride ever. HOWEVER, a wild mouse doesnt have that same wiggle room.
This is horrible news, but at least now you have given us some hope🙏🏾 So I guess we all should just get on board because this is what's happening 💯 Great video WOW!
thanks for watching! I appreciate the comment!
I’m excited to see what CP is cooking with this. Us enthusiasts may think the decision is laughable, but ultimately 99% of us aren’t actually in the industry so what do we know? Every company had humble beginnings; one of Intamin’s first coasters was the failed space diver model, and B&M’s first coasters were the stand-up models which for the most part have not stood the test of time.
I enjoyed your comment, it emphasized that many enthusiasts need to chill out with this project. CP wouldn't spend millions of dollars if they thought it was going to be horrible.
LOL Nice dream your having there!!! This will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@@reedspace8267That isn’t really relevant when they’ve made lots of problematic coasters since 1979 while trying to innovate, and I don’t think a kiddie coaster is necessarily a good representation of Intamin anyway
@@ChrisD72You’ve copy pasted this like four times…
Good video, this actually gets me excited about some of the possibilities, lighting, on board audio, trains, etc. I do wish there was a change in the theme, seems like all signs are still pointing to racing...feels like it might end up being a missed opportunity to have a whole space themed area.
Thanks for the comment! The space themed area would be so cool! I wouldn’t lose hope just yet.
The track also looks like old intamin brake track. The brake fins dont look like either company's fins either. I wouldn't mind if it is either though.
This is super disappointing. Even Mack has more of a track record of building great large attractions as Intamin did before building Millennium Force. Also, doesn’t Intamin have the most powerful LSM launch technology?
I'm not entirely sure at this point. Zamperla claims those trains can handle 150mph launches, maybe they could be outsourcing the launch to another company?
Everyone was hating on Vekoma until some changes took place…and they started producing different, better rides and improved seats, harnesses, etc. I think it’s interesting and it will be cool to see what Zamperla can do. Maybe if their legit rides are good quality, I’d feel better about riding their carnival rides too lol
Great point!!
Well, the problem is that it would have been smarter for cedar point to take a route with a manufacturer who has a proven record, but instead they opted to take a risk with this ride yet again, which I don't think is very smart.
I think it's such a risk to Cedar Fair be working along with Zamperla. Is this new version of TTD will be realiable? Is It going to close for good in 10 years or less because of the lack of quality? Idk... I'm concerned.
I agree, its very confusing...
This is probably very unlikely but wouldn’t it be interesting if Intamin and Zamperla are doing this project together
I said the same thing on another channel
It's like a romantic comedy where Zamperla is the "face" going on all the physical dates, but Intamin is the geeky person behind the scenes feeding them all the romantic shit to say and winning over the love interest. 😆
I'm actually quite optimistic about zamperla. All manufacturers started from humble beginnings, and comebacks aren't uncommon, their trains look excellent and they seem motivated. Let's hope this is an awesome project!
I really hope so!!!
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Childish
Good Call on Zam...
Now we just have to
Wait and See
I don't care who does the Dragster project as long as the ride reopens and it's good.
Same here!
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster your crazy!!
Their intamin grudge is beyond petty at this point to jeopardize the future of dragster this way. They’ve alienated basically everyone but B&M at this point, and obviously B&M wouldn’t be right for the project. They ran out of manufacturers to burn bridges with and are scraping the bottom of the barrel. This whole thing really does seem way too risky and the gravity of the undertaking could very easily eat zamperla alive for breakfast. This could have been an opportunity to bury the hatchet and make something extraordinary, but I don’t think that’s going to be the outcome. I’m far too skeptical.
What is up with CF hating basically every coaster manufacturer??
I agree, this whole thing just feels weird.
@@One-Day-After-Another shoot the rapids almost drowned 6 guests, Dragster has been a maintenance night mare. they had to remove the zero g roll on maverick and had to rebuild half of i305, almost all 25 million$ rides. Intamin makes the best stuff but they do have a rocky relationship with CP let alone CF
Totally agree it's ridiculous and seems almost immature at this point why risk the future of a company and the future of a park over some old grudge there has to be something else going on here that we don't know about
Fun fact, coaster enthusiast opinions of rides and their manufacturers has no influence on a park operator's opinion. So you say they are scraping the bottom of the barrel, when in reality they are doing exactly what they want. Every manufacturer would work with CF in a heartbeat, because they are a business and businesses are meant to make money. CF has every reason to not want to work with Intamin, and I'm saying that as someone who loves Intamin. Think about it, Shoot the Rapids, TTD Bolt hitting someone, Maverick design flaw, Perilous Plunge, Xcelerator being down all the time, Xcelerator snapping a cable, i305 design flaw, all the issues with Volcano. There are a lot of good reasons for them to not work with Intamin again after they've cost them millions and millions of dollars. But Zamperla's rides are all chugging away with little to no issues.
Thank you for injecting some common sense!!!! Wild mouse has better operations than the original TTD as I’ve seen it up for most of my visits. And when it went down, it wasn’t for too long anyways.
Thanks for watching! People are going crazy over nothing like they always do.
Zamperla didn't manage to make their Eurofighter Clones good.
BS. Zamoerla has yet to make a well riding large coaster. There’s no way they could jumped right to making one of the biggest coasters in the world and do it right.
They can’t even make a good flight ride. The Endeavour, a Kings Island is the most uncomfortable piece of crap I’ve ever sat in. The restraints don’t even lift up high enough for a person of 6 feet to get in them without ducking.
Their rides aren’t even reliable. The rides, a Kings Island, and the Cedar Point wild mouse, have had a good amount of downtime for such a simple design.
The fact is Cedar Fair has cash flow issues with their large debt and they are going the cheapest route possible. One gets what they pay for.
I feel like people are just being negative i think this will be good and you cant judge a ride before it opens we just have to wait to see if its good or bad
This is so true, people are already complaining before it even exists.
I really hope Zamperla can pull this off, definitely a bit worried but it could definitely be a good redemption.
I’m excited to see what the future holds for them!
@@TheCoasterJoshmake or break
R.I.P. TTD
My experience tells me to NOT get excited about Zamperla.....they struggle with making small flat rides run proper. Its in ride control systems, programming, and PLCs.
i mean i understand your point that because it's of zamperla it's not necesarely of less quality, but what does zamperla realy have to show for that they improved so far compared to next gen intamin and vekoma. their wildmouse i can see having some isue's as its a new coaster but then again if they can't make a reliable coaster of a model that exist for 50 odd years, how you suposse people to have faith in zamperla into redoing a strata where only a couple from excist.
They don't have much to show yet, but granted their coaster department used to be super small. Who knows at this point how it will all end up.
Dude- way to investigate! That IS really encouraging to hear.
Thanks!!!!
Exact thoughts I had with both Cedar Fair and Zamperla. This project is too important to fail. As long as everyone’s heart and soul is into the project they will succeed and blow my expectations out of this world!
Thanks for the comment! I obviously agree 100%
As a business decision it sounds too risky, for a company that's just dipping its toes into thrill coasters jumping to a massive project like this, it sounds dangerous, but anyway its probably gonna be pretty good, Zamperla won't fuck up a spike and a launch.
I really hope Zamperla can make a great capacity for this ride
I hope so too!
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster your nuts!!!!
Im glad to see someone with some optimism about this project. I'm sure Zamperla will come through on the re-imagining project. Their new train designs are awesome. Everyone is bummed out because they are the "kiddie ride company". However, RMC put themselves on the map with trying something different. Who is to say that Zamperla cant do the same?
Also zamparala did redo an old intamin hydraulic launch in kanonan into matugani at lost island
Ah that is very interesting
well I'm Glad I got my Dragster credit before it tried to kill somebody ....
Cedar Point may have gone with Zamperla because of the lighter Zamperla trains, allowing the LSM launch to require less energy to launch the train up to speed, resulting in a more powerful launch than other companies
Those trains really could be a gamechanger.
CP: give it to Zamperla
Zamperla: you know, we did Tomb Raider at CW?
CP: yeah, but renamed Time Warp made it better
When will we make the change to the mind set cheaper is better.....
It NEVER is and when it comes to safety.....yippie, lets cut those corners.
Come on CP, don't throw your park in the garbage....
This is going to be a colossal nightmare pile of trash I feel. I hope I'm wrong.
I agree with you this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and Cedar Fair would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Talked to one of the Painters on site he said that the Top Hat Track will be Red and White!
That would be cool to see!
Zamperla cant make a reliable wild mouse, but "hey lets let them build one of if not the tallest launch coasters on Earth...what could go wrong?" 😂🤦♂️
HAHAAH, that is funny, but unfortunately accurate.
Zamperla could be the next Vekoma
This is going to be an epic failure and I believe CP is just now realizing it. Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs efficiently. Them doing the dragster is like trusting Dodge to design and build a manned ship to Mars. Not only have they never built a space ship but they can’t even build an automobile that doesn’t fall apart.
That is an unfortunate comparison, but very accurate.
Debbie downer.
“We need to keep an open mind” the title literally says “unfortunately” 😭
😂😂😂
We all start somewhere... Everyone is concerned about zamperla not being reliable but how soon we forget about intamin and how reliable they were... When they first launched this coaster the first few days there were rollbacks and very often the coaster itself was not running.... zamperla might blow y'all away 👀👀
Great comment!!!
i would prefer to see 2 tophats with maybe a few pops of airtime than a spike.......spike to me sounds very boring-------have a swinglaunch with the 2 tophats........just my opinion
I'm starting to feel like this is the precursor to all of our favorite defunct CF steel roller coasters coming back as Zamperla projects. If they're successful on TTD, it wouldn't surprise me if CF taps Zamperla for Vortex, Orient Express, Volcano the Blast Coaster, etc.
that would be super cool!
LOLKEEP DREAMING this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@@ChrisD72 stay positive man! LOL
Its absolutely in no amusement parks financial interest to build a bad coaster so honestly I don’t care if this coaster is made by Oscar Mayer….As long as this coaster turns out amazing I’m good….Now if this thing ends up lesser then we can rip Zamperla a new butt hole but until then I’m excited!
HAHAHA Oscar Meyer
I think if Zamperla does this right and is very careful with how they execute this project with CP, they have a shot at ‘ redemption’/greatness
And I absolutely agree with you around the 4 minute mark of the vid
totally agree, thanks for the comment!!!
LOL KEEP REAMING!!! This will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@@ChrisD72ell, we thought Vekoma was an absolutely horrible manufacturer and a laughing stock as well until they had their redemption arc with their new-gen design and now they’re making some of the best coasters in Europe
I think it’d be good for us enthusiasts to at least give them a chance to do something massive.
Plus, they could pull something completely new that no one saw coming and it could be great
@ChrisDash-zt6sq dude you sent the same comment like 4 times we get it
I think this reimagining can be a make or break for zamperla as a whole
This is really crucial for the company
I don't think that price/cost is an issue but I think it has to deal with more that Cedar Fair has cut ties with Intamin more than anything at this time! Is Zamperla a company I'd chose for this? No, but if rumors are true they will have a lot to prove to not only the industry but the world! I also have a feeling that if this goes well, Xcelerator could be next! Most definitely an exciting time to see what will be presented next year!
I agree about the price thing, it’s definitely an exciting time to watch the industry.
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster your nuts!!!!!
The price idea is dumb. I’m sure zamperla was probably cheaper, but there’s no way that’s the only reason they went with zamperla
Agreed! that's like buying something off of wish rather than amazon cause it's cheaper.
Cedar fair is extremely tight on cash at the moment (only $34M cash on hand). They increased their liabilities greatly and they lost $135M last quarter.
@@AMCustomCoasters that’s a good point, it’s pretty much the same with every chain right now. The consolidated balance sheets, income statements and the rest of the financial statements don’t look amazing for any theme park company. But I stand by my statement and still don’t think a few million would be worth it to get significantly less quality tho.
@@TheCoasterJosh no doubt. I think a few things may have happened. First and in my opinion most likely is that TTD cost so much over the long run to maintain and I assume Cedar Fair had to pay out a massive settlement to the TTD incident victim and just wanted to cut ties with Intamin altogether. The other scenario I think is possible is that Zamperla is taking this project as a net loss and that made it much much cheaper $10M+ which enticed CF.
@@TheCoasterJosh Craziest part is that Six Flags has the most cash on hand out of SW, CF, and SF rn.
I really hope Zamperla makes Top Thrill Dragster amazing and shocks everybody who hates on Zamperla. I don’t like how some people make certain manufacturers seem garbage. Zamperla has started to make some high-quality rides, and I think Top Thill Dragster is going to showcase this and surprise a lot of people. If Cedar Fair chose them, then they definitely have something special planned for this ride. I can’t wait to see it.
Same here! People are hating on this company for no reason. Not only do they have relationships with almost every park out there from the flat rides, but they are still relatively new in the coaster game. Give them a chance!
Yeah… It’s gonna suck. Unless they keep the hydraulic launch. And it’s insulting that they’re still calling it dragster.
Do you think Zamperla might of hired some employees from B&M and Intamin to work on this project. Since Zamperla has never done anything like this before.
I don't think they specifically hired people for only this project, but I do think they have hired engineers to work at zamperla that have had experience at the other companies.
LOl this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣!!!!
Is the main reason Cedar Fair doesn’t work with Intamin because of Shoot the Rapids incident?
That was the breaking point for them, but underlying causes like I305 at KD, and various extended downtimes also played a role.
I’m just worried that they can’t keep a wild mouse open how are they going to keep open dragster their flat rides are always closed two
Good point, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and Cedar Fair would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Comments seems like a bunch of people repeating what their fav RUclipsr is saying nobody knows what zam has up their sleeves except them and cedar your all saying it’s going to fail and suck but what happens when it’s your favorite coaster ?JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY WHATS ABOUT TO COME I DOUBT CEDAR WOULD JUST GAMBLE ON THIS COASTER IM SURE
Exactly! There are some coaster enthusiasts that will never be happy. How do you complain about something that doesn't even exist yet.
I'm sorry but there is no clear upside on if they went with Intamin or Zamperla. They didn't sound like great choices at the time and there were plenty of downsides/risks no matter who they went with here. So to me, it's completely moot and it just becomes a matter of execution at this point.
They're giving Zamperla a chance to reach for the sky for their next project....In more ways than one.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Zamperla in this project could definitely change their profile when it comes to popularity and skill in making coasters. If Mack Rides revolutionized off Intamin, so will Zamperla.
Great point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with u. I'm going to give them a chance
Every company deserves a chance. Fingers crossed for them.
They have a Lightning car on display outside of their Boonton NJ location.
People need to remember how bad b&m and intamins first rides were
Would they actually use new trains that are 4 seats across? That would DRAMATICALLY increase capacity. However there are so many horror stories of coasters being ruined by new trains, usually due to them being heavier, but that might not matter here if they’re aluminum.
I’m would think they would use the 2 across trains debuted at IAAPA, but that’s just a guess. 4 across would be super cool to see but I feel like the physics would be off a bit for that.
Do you know what company provides the launch system for Zamperla.
I have no idea, but I would hope they outsource this one.
@@TheCoasterJosh Zamperla states over 150 miles I do believe. Which makes me think of IndDriveTech which I do believe is part of Intamin.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Yeah… It’s totally gonna suck. Not because of Zamperla’s involvement but because Cedar Point is desperately trying to make you think it’s still dragster and it’s not. Dragster is dead and will NG ever be back. Unless they keep the hydraulic launch, and even then it’s already obvious that they’re using at least a few gimmicks like a potential swing launch which is not only stupid. It’s boring.
The whole entire point of dragster was to make a strong effort to get the general public to experience what being in a DRAGSTER felt like. And the simple layout emulated the straight track of a drag race. (Cars; not dudes in heels) and the hydraulic launch system is the only one capable of giving you the feeling of explosive acceleration. Because that’s literally how they function.
LSMs are great. And I love every LSM coaster I’ve ever been on. But they’re not explosive. It’s much more of a forceful push.
I don’t really mind if TTD was at the end of its life and just needed to go. But just give it a happy send off, tear it down and build something else entirely. Don’t try to bamboozle me into believing it’s still dragster. The only reason they’re still calling it Dragster is because regardless of how much of a maintenance nightmare it was. It was still one of the primary reasons people chose CedarPoint over a different park. It was still extremely popular.
They can’t even keep the wild mouse running over there . And now they’re gonna take a swing at a strata coaster ? Ok 😂
😂😂😂 that’s hilarious but accurate
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.........TO EVERYONES HORROR 🤣
Yup, that made the final cut of the video 🤣🤣🤣
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
If Dragster 2.0 fails and Cedar Fair keeps alienating themselves from manufacturers like Intamin & RMC all because they aren't perfect out of the gate, I could possibly see SeaWorld dethroning Cedar Fair in the next 10 years when it comes to new coasters!
SeaWorld is going crazy lately haha. I could totally see that happening!
Cedar Fair is already in trouble. They are worth less than Six Flags at the current moment. They have an insane amount of debt with relatively short terms, they wont be investing large sums of money any time soon.
SeaWorld already has dethroned Cedar Fair. Cedar Point has been falling in the ratings for years now. Cedar Point's best days are behind them.
I am just hopeful that their this coaster is not pure crap but I will give them this the new trains and model looks possible but as someone who has ridden one of the thunderbolt coaster they are rough with painful coaster but I think if they can pull it off it will be a great coaster
I really hope it is.
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
If mean yes I’m an intamin fan. Velocicoaster is probably the best coaster out there but give zemperla a chance. We’re hating before we even see it. Like you said, ceder point knows what there doing, yes money might have played a small role but they aren’t gonna cheap out on a ride of this caliber.
I like intamin a lot, but I am still excited for this project even if zamperla does it.
I think the issues are more along the lines of parts replacement. There is a RUclips channel out there called Ryan, the coaster mechanic.. Is just and he actively goes across saying that at his former park... Intamin was one of the worst company to deal with in terms of parts replacement (although Zamperla was also in the same boat).
thanks for the channel recommendation, I will check it out.
Personally, I think this is a really good chance for Zamperla to show off.
The Intamin approach has been done and it failed numerous times at Cedar Point.
Millennium- Had rough teething problems early on.
Wicked Twister- Had to have its support completely reconstructed after its first year..
Dragster- Been a nightmare since opening.
Maverick- The Heartline Roll
Shoot The Rapids- Somehow Intamin screwed up a concept that has been around since the 60s.
Not to forget, Intimidator 305 had a lot of reconstruction done to it as well.
All of those examples, along with the fact that there is now proof that Intamin is difficult to deal with once the ride is already commissioned, makes me very happy they aren't going with Intamin.
Yes, Zamperla is a huge risk, but I'd rather go with the risky company that just restructured themselves, then go with the company that has screwed up on 80% of the projects your company has given them.
@@f1fan112 it’s definitely a great chance for zamperla! I think if they pull this off we will see a complete shift in the company’s coasters, and they will be taken seriously as a coaster manufacturer. Not to mention the fact that they already have great relationships with pretty much every park out there (from the kiddie and family rides) if they get their coasters under control they could be a force in the industry.
Maybe Cedar Point will bring in some experts from Coney Island. 🤯
With the color and maker developments Cedar Fair is turning itself into Six Flags. Wow. What a screw up.
White and Grey. Just awful. How boring. Heartbreaking news on the maker as well. Appears this is a failing project before it even get far along. If they were going for a new world record they’re building a turd. Breathtaking let downs. #Dragsterfail2024
Zamperlas current thrill coasters are the worst of the worst. (Even their Thunderbolt models). But just like Vekoma, it takes time. (Gerstlauer is also pretty rough and uncomfortable on most of their rides). But the question we should ask is: Why is the wild mouse from Zamperla more down then operating at Cedar Point and could this be problematic going forward?
"the worst of the worst" Really? With all the knockoff companies in China? Pinfari? TOGO? RCCA?
I literally don’t know what to think
It’s so weird to think about…
I kinda knew that Cedar Point wouldn’t go with Intamin. But I’m positive. Hopefully Zamperla does Dragster justice.
Exactly, I really hope so!
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster your crazy!!!
Zamperla is big enough to have enough engineers to get the engineering side right. They just need executives willing to take risks and invest in innovation and perhaps a few new engineers with the right knowledge to take them to the next level.
This is very true, fingers crossed.
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HAHAHA I hope not
Why did intamin and cedar fair split up?
How tall will the spike be...now that we know it is Zamperla..
😢500ft was never gonna happen anyway
I have no idea, maybe 200-400ft, but I would think on the lower end of that.
150 feet
@@TheCoasterJosh so much for the 500 ft ....
id guess 300 because then they could say they have "The worlds first giga-spike"
Kids get your popcorn ready and get ready to enjoy what's about to happen with TTD 😁
Can't wait!
@TheCoasterJosh this is going to be epic
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
Intamin only wants to do 100m dollar super coasters 😂 I bet it’s intamin asking for too much.
Haha that’s so true lol
bro imagine if it was jinma rides lmao
That would be incredible😂😂😂
Great points.
thanks for watching!
What is that beat
If you are talking about my background music, it's "Freefall" by Anno Domini Beats
And. 150 mph for the trains and faster, will be fastest on planet
150 would be so cool!!!
It’s crazy that cedar fair is being that ridiculous to trust a “rookie” company to do the dragster project instead of a experienced company like intamin doing this I get that they don’t trust intamin but the new intamins are much more reliable
I agree, I’m shocked that zamperla was able to sell it to cedar fair!
@@TheCoasterJosh me too it’s pretty sad I think cedar fair is to blame if the new dragster is a failure because they are too stubborn to work with intamin who is clearly the better company for this project
If cedar fair trusts them it will probably not be horrible
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i bet there will be coaster enthusiasts, who will activly boycott Zamperla, even if this might be the best coaster in the world.
Just for beeing built by Zamperla.
Some enthusiasts just need to take a chill pill about this one. Why are people mad about them redoing it? At least they aren't closing it for good.
LOl you're fool this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Heck Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster you're crazy!!!
*Watch It Be Intimin*
I mean I would really hope so, but that would mean intamin is taking inspiration from zamperla 🤣
Then I don't want you to be riding this at all.
I predict the new TTD will be closed permanently within 2 years. It is doomed to fail.
Who knows at this point, I'm very curious.
Cedar fair is definitely making a mistake
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and Cedar Fair would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
@@ChrisD72 that’s what I’m saying
@@ChrisD72 they can’t even get wild mouse to work correctly
Yay there not useing intimin...don't like the company.
What’s wrong with Intamin?
@FIRST_DROP_STUDIOS hardly anything, there’s just something wrong with this guy’s brain; you can really see it with his poor spelling and grammar
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
WAIT A FRICKING SECOND, IF YOU SERACH UP THE KEYCHAIN FOE TOP THEILL DRAGSTER AND LOOK AT ZAMPLERA LOGO THERE THE EXACT SAME.
That’s super weird, I googled it and they do look kinda similar.
That’s why I thought it was zamperla
LOL this will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Hell Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and you would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!
This will be a massive fail Zamperla are the laughing stock of the coaster world!!! I wouldn't trust them to build a 400 foot coaster without completely screwing it up!! Zamperla can’t even build a wild mouse that runs good and efficient and Cedar Fair would trust those losers with building a 400 foot coaster!!! This project is now DOOMED TO FAIL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!