@@godejonas I know. But sometimes people need them for whatever reason and I would rather have a person wearing shoes that are only worn on the mat, than not training.
Martial Insight: Sitting here reflecting on the fact that many believe that all Kata start with a “block” and wondering why the martial masses can’t see past that belief especially when uke actually means “receive.” YOU SEE: I’m solely speaking about Karate processed through a pragmatic lens, not practiced aesthetically or in a sport context. Looking at the movements from a self-defense standpoint helps me to understand that the movements at the beginning of Kata commonly thought to be “blocks” are in-fact traps, joint manipulations and/or breaks, and in some cases throws because it’s important to understand that the action has to neutralize the opponents ability to continue to “fight and the concept of “blocking” doesn’t actually satisfy that goal. The movements in question must address the three stages of “combat” which are floating techniques, anchored techniques, and clinch techniques. ALSO: It’s imperative that one understands that most people who subscribe to the commonly accepted rendition of execution truly only utilize half of the respective movement which further lends to the martial community’s unrealistic interpretation of those “blocking” movements. It’s time to STOP perpetuating these martial fallacies that have been taught to you by the uninformed and START processing through common sense and intelligent deductive reasoning. AND REMEMBER: Just because everybody is doing it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right! ALSO: It’s wasted effort to “block” something, as opposed to the act of attaching yourself to something. All action must be weaponized! ~Randy B. Haskins~
For a beginner it looks like a block but to the trained practitioner it's more than just that. Plus in sports setting it may not work but in a real world situation I can say it works. I've been to a real fight and it worked for me
Traditional blocks are not only for actual defense. There are other reasons for training in certain ways... like for instance, that outward block, it is also for orientation, alignment of the body, understanding directions and angles. But its good that you are training.
I think if we look at it from the context of we know we’re fighting and both have hands up the outside block doesn’t work but if someone tries to sucker punch since my hand is already down when it comes up it comes up in a defense manner to block and stepping out at the same time then you have the outward block. In context of that it’s good in context of we know we’re fighting and my hands are already up it’s bad…unless you also fight from a Philly shell or use flicker jabs since your hand is already at a lowered position then it can come up and doing the outside block.
yup, Great point. When drilling Blocks I have students work this idea. Guard will determine your block. So learn to set that up or which block to use from where your hands are. A lot of folks only practice from a chambered position and we know that doesn't ever work.
Sadly I have never studied Wing Chun. though a few folks who have dropped by the studio and said a lot of our drills are very similar. I am looking to get a guest instructor in to run a Wing Chun seminar at some point.
@@RebornMartialArtsLLCplease please get Brian Kwong of 21st century wing chun, based in New York. Not your regular wing chun with a lineage that goes back to Wong Shun Leung, the most prolific fighter under Yip Man.
Hi Christopher. I'm Karate. The kihon karate blocks do work... U just can't do them. The reason u can't do them is the masters' never intended anyone to cut and paste a format onto an attack. Which is precisely what u du. It's true that in isolation, a straight line beats a circular motion. But you left out all the other traditions imbedded in kihon technique. Karate tradition encompasses the "straight line beats a circle" concept, but so can a circle beat a straight line in other applications. Then add on the 20, 30 or more traditional principles behind the kihon karate form. Traditional karate doesn't go out and get in a horse stance, flop your arms mindlessly, and the opponent will magically wilt. Basically, that's the philosophy of your "Alchemy" position. Good luck with that. Cheers.
Hey @stanclark3992 thanks for watching the video. What style of Karate do you practice? Your traditions or principles sound similar to both the Kempo and Shorin-Ryu Karate I study. "The line beats the circle and the circle beats the line" is a mantra we all learned :) I think you may have missed the point of the video. The aim is to illustrate to folks who might struggle to pull off the blocks in real-time in sparring or a self-defense situation, how to position and cover better using the blocks. I am sure if your blocks work for you, you are already doing these things on an instinctual level. There are still a lot of people who train the blocks in isolation or in kata then when they go to live practice they can't get the blocks to work, they haven't learned those 20, 30 other things that make them work like positioning, angles of defense, advantageous biomechanical positions etc. Can I cover all these things in a single video? No, So I am trying to cover the basics that I find really help people. I am always happy to hear peoples points of view, thanks for commenting. Be sure to watch the video on low blocks. I am sure that one will drive you nuts :)
@@RebornMartialArtsLLC Hi RebornMartialArtsLLC. PP1. Tnx for getting back. "Line Beats Circle / Circle Beats Line" is a Law of Kenpo / Kempo. The principle, however, is found in all the TMAs, including karate. PP2. Karate Kihon, while simple appearing in form... is actually quite complex. That's the simple& vague answer as to why people can't do it. The secret is to try an assimilate the wisdom of the old masters... which is very hard and that is why they were called masters. That's all for now. 😊😊Cheers
I agree with the distance traveled and speed. I see the same thing in some FMA styles in that 2-3 contacts are made on the attacking hand before a counter strike is made; a waste of time that only works if you are 2-3 times faster than your attacker. If you are 2-3 times faster, you don't need to block at all, just hit the guy.
Fma defence skills are more advanced than karate near equal to wing chun. So it looks like you need to be fast but it by design that giving you that quickness
I would say you have bjj bCkgrohnd. Its no good just standing a nd blocking, you need to shiff position aswell at the same time as blockjng. Only did 2 weeks bjn, the restst, was traditional ninjisu and nimpo bugei as taught to the samurain and ninja of japan.
Hey, thanks for watching. What a great question. Did they? As a history buff, I really am curious. What source we have for standing in place and swinging your arm in a biomechanically weak position to ward off a front punch. In the video, I am trying to show options for blocking in strong/safe positions. As well as showing the need to position at the same time you block. I would assume anyone training in the "old days" would be on board with this idea.
The positioning is wrong, you should be on the outside of the attacker and you've left yourself wide open to his left side after the defensive execution 😳
Hey, thanks for watching. "You should" and what happens, rarely are they the same. Yes I am demonstrating the block inside the guard the worst possible place to put yourself. This is so I can show the block is a better option than a wide-sweeping circle. I am posting the next video on this today, I hope you enjoy watching.
Pure blocking is a waste of time and effort. If you're not attacking the offending limb and/or taking their balance in the process, at best, you're just delaying things a bit.
That's why I train in a okinawan based karate style,therefore I train them as strikes,and even part of trapping an yes trapping is also a part of okinawan karate
😂😂😂😂😂 Block's don't work?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quick someone inform the cqc guys in the military that some random decided blocks don't work. This is why we laugh at you guys.
@@RebornMartialArtsLLC Yes, you show what you teach, but you also showed the straw man of how other Karate school teach their blocking, which left a lock to be desired. It is obvious you don't understand the concept of big to small, or you would not have explained the usage of traditional blocking the way you did. It also appears you don't grasp the concept of multiple applications for a single technique.
@@MichaelMartin-f6y Ahh I see, @MichaelMartin-f6y If I demonstrate something a particular way it is to illustrate a clear point. You might be surprised to find out how many schools out there teach blocks as I show them its scary. Yes I understand "big to small" and "multiple applications" And if your blocks work for you, I am sure you have learned how to move, cover, and coil with your movements, that is great. Its the point of the video. I am not attacking the blocks or people who use them, I teach these blocks, But I want to illustrate to folks how to move beyond static blocking drills and actually using them. BTW, check out our Block, Lock, Blow, Throw videos I think you might appreciate them.
Those movements aren't blocks.
Great point. Check out my Block, lock, blow, and throw videos I cover this idea. thanks for watching.
Keep learning.
I always do. Thanks for watching.
Shoes on the tatami ? 😬
@@godejonas I know. But sometimes people need them for whatever reason and I would rather have a person wearing shoes that are only worn on the mat, than not training.
Martial Insight:
Sitting here reflecting on the fact that many believe that all Kata start with a “block” and wondering why the martial masses can’t see past that belief especially when uke actually means “receive.”
YOU SEE:
I’m solely speaking about Karate processed through a pragmatic lens, not practiced aesthetically or in a sport context.
Looking at the movements from a self-defense standpoint helps me to understand that the movements at the beginning of Kata commonly thought to be “blocks” are in-fact traps, joint manipulations and/or breaks, and in some cases throws because it’s important to understand that the action has to neutralize the opponents ability to continue to “fight and the concept of “blocking” doesn’t actually satisfy that goal. The movements in question must address the three stages of “combat” which are floating techniques, anchored techniques, and clinch techniques.
ALSO:
It’s imperative that one understands that most people who subscribe to the commonly accepted rendition of execution truly only utilize half of the respective movement which further lends to the martial community’s unrealistic interpretation of those “blocking” movements.
It’s time to STOP perpetuating these martial fallacies that have been taught to you by the uninformed and START processing through common sense and intelligent deductive reasoning.
AND REMEMBER:
Just because everybody is doing it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right!
ALSO:
It’s wasted effort to “block” something, as opposed to the act of attaching yourself to something. All action must be weaponized!
~Randy B. Haskins~
For a beginner it looks like a block but to the trained practitioner it's more than just that. Plus in sports setting it may not work but in a real world situation I can say it works. I've been to a real fight and it worked for me
Been thinking about and looking for this! Therefore i subscribe.
Thanks for the Sub. I am glad you enjoy the videos.
Traditional blocks are not only for actual defense. There are other reasons for training in certain ways... like for instance, that outward block, it is also for orientation, alignment of the body, understanding directions and angles. But its good that you are training.
Hey, thanks for watching. I agree with you 100% check out my block, lock, blow, and throw videos. They hit on this idea.
I think if we look at it from the context of we know we’re fighting and both have hands up the outside block doesn’t work but if someone tries to sucker punch since my hand is already down when it comes up it comes up in a defense manner to block and stepping out at the same time then you have the outward block. In context of that it’s good in context of we know we’re fighting and my hands are already up it’s bad…unless you also fight from a Philly shell or use flicker jabs since your hand is already at a lowered position then it can come up and doing the outside block.
yup, Great point. When drilling Blocks I have students work this idea. Guard will determine your block. So learn to set that up or which block to use from where your hands are. A lot of folks only practice from a chambered position and we know that doesn't ever work.
@ right every block is contextual. Without context they all look bad. Good stuff
Makes sense! I'll work on this improved technique. 👌👌
Study wing chun there arm defence is unmatched
Sadly I have never studied Wing Chun. though a few folks who have dropped by the studio and said a lot of our drills are very similar. I am looking to get a guest instructor in to run a Wing Chun seminar at some point.
@@RebornMartialArtsLLCwing chun, xingyiquan, yiquan, taijiquan. All have great up close defense that isn't just defense.
@@RebornMartialArtsLLCplease please get Brian Kwong of 21st century wing chun, based in New York. Not your regular wing chun with a lineage that goes back to Wong Shun Leung, the most prolific fighter under Yip Man.
Hi Christopher. I'm Karate. The kihon karate blocks do work... U just can't do them. The reason u can't do them is the masters' never intended anyone to cut and paste a format onto an attack. Which is precisely what u du.
It's true that in isolation, a straight line beats a circular motion. But you left out all the other traditions imbedded in kihon technique. Karate tradition encompasses the "straight line beats a circle" concept, but so can a circle beat a straight line in other applications. Then add on the 20, 30 or more traditional principles behind the kihon karate form.
Traditional karate doesn't go out and get in a horse stance, flop your arms mindlessly, and the opponent will magically wilt. Basically, that's the philosophy of your "Alchemy" position. Good luck with that. Cheers.
Hey @stanclark3992 thanks for watching the video. What style of Karate do you practice? Your traditions or principles sound similar to both the Kempo and Shorin-Ryu Karate I study. "The line beats the circle and the circle beats the line" is a mantra we all learned :)
I think you may have missed the point of the video. The aim is to illustrate to folks who might struggle to pull off the blocks in real-time in sparring or a self-defense situation, how to position and cover better using the blocks. I am sure if your blocks work for you, you are already doing these things on an instinctual level.
There are still a lot of people who train the blocks in isolation or in kata then when they go to live practice they can't get the blocks to work, they haven't learned those 20, 30 other things that make them work like positioning, angles of defense, advantageous biomechanical positions etc. Can I cover all these things in a single video? No, So I am trying to cover the basics that I find really help people.
I am always happy to hear peoples points of view, thanks for commenting. Be sure to watch the video on low blocks. I am sure that one will drive you nuts :)
@@RebornMartialArtsLLC Hi RebornMartialArtsLLC. PP1. Tnx for getting back. "Line Beats Circle / Circle Beats Line" is a Law of Kenpo / Kempo. The principle, however, is found in all the TMAs, including karate.
PP2. Karate Kihon, while simple appearing in form... is actually quite complex. That's the simple& vague answer as to why people can't do it. The secret is to try an assimilate the wisdom of the old masters... which is very hard and that is why they were called masters. That's all for now.
😊😊Cheers
I agree with the distance traveled and speed. I see the same thing in some FMA styles in that 2-3 contacts are made on the attacking hand before a counter strike is made; a waste of time that only works if you are 2-3 times faster than your attacker. If you are 2-3 times faster, you don't need to block at all, just hit the guy.
this is a great point. I am gonna make a video on this.
Fma defence skills are more advanced than karate near equal to wing chun. So it looks like you need to be fast but it by design that giving you that quickness
I would say you have bjj bCkgrohnd.
Its no good just standing a nd blocking, you need to shiff position aswell at the same time as blockjng.
Only did 2 weeks bjn, the restst, was traditional ninjisu and nimpo bugei as taught to the samurain and ninja of japan.
Why did they work in the old days under actual combat condition???
Hey, thanks for watching. What a great question. Did they? As a history buff, I really am curious. What source we have for standing in place and swinging your arm in a biomechanically weak position to ward off a front punch.
In the video, I am trying to show options for blocking in strong/safe positions. As well as showing the need to position at the same time you block. I would assume anyone training in the "old days" would be on board with this idea.
The positioning is wrong, you should be on the outside of the attacker and you've left yourself wide open to his left side after the defensive execution 😳
Hey, thanks for watching. "You should" and what happens, rarely are they the same. Yes I am demonstrating the block inside the guard the worst possible place to put yourself. This is so I can show the block is a better option than a wide-sweeping circle. I am posting the next video on this today, I hope you enjoy watching.
Pure blocking is a waste of time and effort. If you're not attacking the offending limb and/or taking their balance in the process, at best, you're just delaying things a bit.
That's why I train in a okinawan based karate style,therefore I train them as strikes,and even part of trapping an yes trapping is also a part of okinawan karate
This simply demonstrated a bad understanding of blocks, blocking and their practical use 🙄
how so? Thanks for watching.
Ha!
😂😂😂😂😂
Block's don't work?!?!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quick someone inform the cqc guys in the military that some random decided blocks don't work.
This is why we laugh at you guys.
I am glad you watched the video. I am posting the second part today, so stay tuned.
Nice straw man argument.
How so? The video shows how I teach blocking at my studio, and why I find it helps people increase their odds of not getting hit.
@@RebornMartialArtsLLC Yes, you show what you teach, but you also showed the straw man of how other Karate school teach their blocking, which left a lock to be desired. It is obvious you don't understand the concept of big to small, or you would not have explained the usage of traditional blocking the way you did. It also appears you don't grasp the concept of multiple applications for a single technique.
@@MichaelMartin-f6y Ahh I see, @MichaelMartin-f6y If I demonstrate something a particular way it is to illustrate a clear point. You might be surprised to find out how many schools out there teach blocks as I show them its scary. Yes I understand "big to small" and "multiple applications" And if your blocks work for you, I am sure you have learned how to move, cover, and coil with your movements, that is great. Its the point of the video. I am not attacking the blocks or people who use them, I teach these blocks, But I want to illustrate to folks how to move beyond static blocking drills and actually using them.
BTW, check out our Block, Lock, Blow, Throw videos I think you might appreciate them.