So All the Museum Ships Will Do Tours When They Go To Drydock, Right?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In this episode we're talking about why some ships can do drydock tours but others cannot.
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After the dry docking period, it would be great to have a video meeting the people who did the work on her and the people who made it possible to have tours and videos during this time.
Hopefully some of them will be willing to do an interview. Even if it's not posted. Just for the archives would be good.
That is a fantastic idea!!! 💡
This! I would love to hear from the people that worked on NJ an operate the dry dock. Maybe not the whole team, i'd imagine that's a lot of people who are busy, but at least a team leader a manager and a few workers. They have their own perspective as well, it's interesting to hear that one too.
I don't think it would ever happen but it would be cool to walk under an aircraft carrier.
I really hope that Olympia will be able to do a dry dock tour. Her hull is quite unlike many of the other museum ships and it would be fascinating to see in person out of the water.
How much per day does it cost to have USS New Jersey in drydock ?
@@timbonjovi The project has an estimated cost of 10 million and expected to be in the dry dock 60 days.
@@Ghauster Works out to $166,666.66 per day.
When I talked to a docent at Buffalo Naval Park, I brought the topic of the possibility of doing drydock tours of USS The Sullivans, along with her companions, and he said, only if it doesn't interfere with the dockyard, as he figured that tours would only be available when active work was not being done to the ship(s), I.E. if the dockyard doesn't work Sundays, that would be the only day they could do tours, dockyard permitting. Seeing as it costs a ship every day it's in dock, it makes sense to not want to drag it out any longer then needed. Wonderful people working hard up in Buffalo, trying to keep those ships for us.
A belly button park? Cool!
A couple of weeks ago their curator Shane was on the Museum Ships podcast and said the drydock was not going to allow tours when the Sullivans and Croaker go in for their dry docking.
I’m glad the video referred to New Jersey being able to sell tickets at $200 a head (or $1000 for Szimanski) which offsets the cost of extra days in the yard
@@randbarrett87061 million dollars on a 10 million dollar drydock period. Recouping 10% is pretty good for an otherwise money-burning-party of a maintenance period.
It would be cool to film one of the dry-dock tours as a special video for release after New Jersey returns for those who can’t make it.
Wow that paint job is really looking great so far. The best part of that dry dock project has been the continuous videos for those of us who aren’t able to do the physical tours.
She's living again, even if just for hull maintenance and only for a little bit
The videos are a great record for posterity as well!
Even if I saw another ship in dry dock, it's kind of hard to beat an Iowa class battleship. Best money I've spent in a long time. Thanks for the opportunity.
I guess seeing a super carrier in dry dock would be my next wish.
I would settle for just being on a super carrier, period.
When the USS Ranger and USS Constellation were in drydock 1 at LBSNY, the flight deck would overhang the sides of the drydock, limiting the travel of the pier cranes. New Jersey and Missouri filled drydock 1 pretty well, but the carriers hid the drydock
@@MisterLongShot_Official I had an Air Force buddy whose brother was on the Carl Vinson and he brought us aboard. It really was an impressive experience.
You are setting a great example of how to curate incredible ships like New Jersey. Thank you for sharing this with the public.
I really love that I can discover something new about a museum ship every day, even though I am nowhere near the water to see one in person.
1965 into 1966 I was a Damage Controlman aboard USS Shangri-La, CVA-38. We were in Dry Dock #5 in the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard for about 4 months for an overhaul. I had the opportunity to go into the drydock many times. It was an awesome experience. I'm coming to see BB-62 in drydock tomorrow, 27 April. Hoping I get to say Hi to you Ryan! BTW, I talked to Chief Ketenheim and he can't get there tomorrow, as he's on an Honor Bus Ride to Washington, DC tomorrow.......Bob Hayner, President, USS Shangri-La Reunion Ass'n.
I hope this becomes a regular thing. GO TEXAS for pioneering this opportunity, and thank you New Jersey for continuing the NEW “tradition “.
As for us subscribers….
WETSU🤠
I know it won't and can't be a thing for EVERY museum ship, but I want it to be a thing for many or most.
I was lucky enough to see the Texas out of the water. It was amazing!! Shoutout to the drydock participants for the New Jersey!
I went more than once to see Texas. I would LOVE to see New Jersey, but she is just too far away. ☹
Buy the tickets and do the dry dock tour! I did the tour the first day at 3:45pm. It is mind blowing how big the ship is out of water. Thank you Ryan!
That's a mighty impressive view of your Revell Model, Ryan. Imagine the glue & paint fumes we inhaled, the Thinner we soaked up cleaning our hands, and the amount of spray in our Lungs from all the aerosol we sprayed around? Of course today's World is TOO dangerous for 1:1 model-makers, eh?
Kudos on your paint and weathering work, regardless! Canada Salutes!
1:1 model makers...thank you for making me smile!
Ryan, my coolest US Navy boat is the USS Batfish (SS-310), about half hour drive from home. The museum ship has been unavailable for tours since the 2019 floods in Oklahoma. The Museum is still open, but without tours inside the sub. The full underbelly of Batfish is exposed behind a fenced off area. Years ago our motorcycle group toured the Batfish lead by a Navy Sub veteran Tom. I noticed some the motorcyclist's declined going inside the boat citing claustrophobia, (riding a motorcycle may be a higher risk). The Batfish used to have overnight bunking for groups such as Scouts. When the flood happened in 2019 with the threat of the Batfish being sucked into the locks. A local auto dealer Henry Primeoux who served on the Batfish, rushed his tech manuals on how to open the flood valves, thus saving it being sucked into the gates. (PS, I toured USS Texas in 1981).
USS Enterprise CVN-65 2002 Norfolk Naval Shipyard. When we first got to the drydock they only allowed certain people down there. Toward the end I managed to sneak down there. Pretty cool to see the ship at that angle.
I grew up in Fall River Massachusetts where Battleship Cove host a handful of beautiful World War II ships. I believe in 1999 the USS Massachusetts went into Dry Dock and I would have loved to have toured it. The Massachusetts and Joseph P Kennedy will always have a special place in my heart
I figured that the tours would be a boon to your overhead on the drydock, but that's a fairly impressive number. Making up some of the rest in store sales of repair related stuff is great too. Texas has really led the way.
Tours are $225 per person, they sold 4000 so that’s 900k
I worked in Dry Dock 6 at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard under the USS Constellation (CVA-64) and the USS Ranger (CV-61) when they went through yard periods there. Although cold, windy, and WET, it was always an awe-inspiring experience! We were also lucky the Drydock 6 has an elevator!
shout out to the shipyard they must be great people to work with. i wished i lived closer to be able to go and see the ship. 👍👍
I managed to see some ships in drydock in Yokosuka Japan while stationed there but the best one was the USS MIdway in drydock just before leaving in 1985.
USCGS Taney and USS Torsk and USS Constelation were all fantastic and humbling.
When I was aboard the New Jersey when we decommissioned her we went into the drydock and took pictures under each engineroom screw. Also, when I worked at the LBNSY I worked the underwater gear on the USS Tarawa, and Ogden now they are reef ships sunk during Rimpac.
Ryan, as always you are a great spokesperson, historian, curator. Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
Thank you Ryan and Libby for the great videos and the excellent content 😊😊😊😊😊
I ship that I would not be surprised to see drydocked before too many more years is the Light Ship Columbia. It is maintained by the Astoria Maritime Museum in Astoria Oregon.
I toured the drydock! Its an incredible experience! Thanks Ryan and members of your team for making it possible!
While on a WestPac on the USS Kitty Hawk in ‘94, the ship made a port visit in Yokosuka. Kitty Hawk was tied up at the berth normally occupied by USS Independence which was in a dry dock right next door. Indy was getting a propeller replaced. To have both so close and be able see how incredibly massive was a unique experience I still vividly remember. Still have a picture of me standing next to the new prop sitting on the pier. Please correct me if wrong but I believe the dry dock at Yokosuka was originally made by the IJN for the Yamato’s. For many seeing a ship the size of New Jersey in dry dock is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I live in Vermont, when I was around 10 an uncle had his wedding reception on the SS Ticonderoga, a side wheeler at the Shelburne Museum. We got to access all the areas that were off limits and without any staff escort.
I was lucky enough to see the battleship Massachusetts brought into dry dock back in 1998 in Boston, Ma when it was towed up from Battleship Cove in Fall River, Ma. I would like to see it dry docked again because over the past 25 years,it’s become very weather beaten, the wood part of the deck is in rough shape and the upper section of the superstructure is pretty rusted.
I really hope that when Massachusetts goes to dry dock that they can do tours. I would go out of my way to see that.
I was lucky enough to be going on a cruise out of Galveston when Texas was in dry dock. I had read about the tours on their website and bought my wife and I tickets, I have been on Texas multiple times and am looking forward to them reopening. So that's my coolest ship to see out of the water.
I was in an A4 squadron aboard the F D Roosevelt in 66&67 in West Pac. Ship thru a screw, we went into dry dock in Japa for repairs.
While serving in the 80’s on Trident subs, we went into dry dock on the USS Florida, SSBN728 as she was back then. That’s is one BIG sub! She is an SSGN now.
While living on Guam in 1966, my mom, brother and I booked passage on a small inter-island freighter down to Yap and Palau and back. While leaving and returning to Apra Harbor our ship sailed right by one of the Navy floating dry docks stationed there. On the blocks was a Polaris missile submarine. The propeller was hidden under tarps but you could see most everything else.
Got to see Saratoga CV-60 in dry dock at NNSY about 1988. Walked down in the drydock in the evening when work had stopped for the day, and no one was around. Got to see all the seachests and other openings. The screws were amazing. I was working in Shop 41A aboard Puget Sound AD38 at the time. We had just finished up working on another ship and were headed out.
In the 80's, my friend was on the DD975 USS O'Brien. It was in dry dock in Long Beach, CA. He broke his ankle on shore leave. I drove him to the gate and I could not go farther. I put his bag on his shoulders and almost fell over. The guard told me to carry his bag to the ship. I got on the ship and about 10 seconds, they called for an armed guard to escort me out. That was cool.
I saw the USS Intrepid out of the water when it was dry docked in Bayonne NJ during its last rehab
1,125,000 dollars in drydock tour revenue. I’m really glad you guys are getting all the quality work done for your artifact and also are able to show people the rarely seen underside of the ship. I wish I could come and see it. Maybe one day I’ll bring my family for a guided tour topside. See you then Ryan!
Even though it's on camera, I can't believe how huge from the ground up New Jersey really is. What an incredible vessel.
Our fire brigade in the mid 1990’s got to visit a the HMAS Hobart while she was in dry dock at Garden island in Sydney Australia back then the ships crew worked with the dry dock workers to refit the ship so they knew what was done. The crew still had to do fire drills on the ship while in dry dock which was cool to see
I once stood in the gouges in the hull of ENTERPRISE CVN65. She was in drydock in Portsmouth VA when I reported in '02. Lot of underwater minor damage to her. Made you understand why #1 pump room was so messed up. That's where she hit Bishops Rock.
Drove down today from NH. Long ride. 718 miles round trip. Your staff was amazing. And the experience was AWESOME! So worth it!
USS Kitty Hawk CV63 PSNS Bremerton July 1976 walked directly under the keel which was mostly dead flat.
BTW BB62 was just a few feet to the south, walked by the bow many times. Kitty Hawk out of the water dwarfs everything around it, including battleships.
USS Ohio SSBN726 Electric Boat 1978, in launch position. Hull in three separate pieces before welding together. Shipyard had trouble getting them aligned, and the upper pressure hull openings were being formed into position by huge dead weights. Still looked huge.
USS Tullibee SSN579 early 1980 Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. In overhaul, did not get to go under the hull. I always felt sorry for the Tullibee as it seemed to be broken more often than operational.
USS Indianapolis SSN697 was briefly in drydock Pearl Harbor I think mid 1980, went into the forward ballast tanks from the bottom grates by ladder, looking for rattles in the baffles. Insides of ballast tanks are dark, bring a flashlight. Also went into the primary shield water tank before it was closed out during new construction. Not many people can say they were crawling around inside a nuclear reactor primary shield water tank
USS Albacore AGSS569 Portsmouth, NH - not many years ago. In museum position, not really a dry dock, but hull is completely visible, very impressive for a smaller ship, not big, but unique looking. It was not open at the time, but walked around taking pictures. Round subs don't really have a traditional keel.
Also saw the U505 before they built the enclosure, hull exterior was ominous black. Inside tour was impressive but scary cramped.
Not a Naval ship, but I saw the QE2 in Dry dock in Boston in 1992. We were on a family vacation. It had struck its keel on some rocks off Martha's Vineyard.
i did the 2:15 tour on april 6th . Ryans videos ahead of time gave me a lot of working knowledge to share with my companion on the tour . thanks
The coolest ship I ever got to see was the USS Wisconsin recommissioning ceremony at Pascagoula MS in 1989. A live, functioning battleship complete with crew. She looked brand-spanking new. It was awesome.
She wasn't out of the water, though, she was in it.
Awesome stuff. I live 60 miles from the Kidd. Grew up in B.R. Unique mooring system to see it in and out of the water. Slept on it with the Cub Scouts many years ago. Well displayed and maintained!
Great job Ryan!
I’ve seen the U-505 in Chicago many times since my first time as a kid in 1976. Always a treat.
I have been under one other vessel in a drydock, it was FSF-1 Seafighter, in Portland, OR.
On another note: my wife and I were aboard New Jersey in June, 1990, also in Portland, OR. We now live in VA, and have tickets to tour BB-62 on May 25th! Cannot wait to see her again! Thank-you so much for allowing us this amazing opportunity!
I've only seen SS Great Britain out of the water and it's a pretty amazing piece of history. Not the most water tight these days so it won't ever be refloated but walking underneath it is great to see how far ahead it was of its time.
I was stationed onboard the USS Franklin D Roosevelt CVA42 aircraft carrier in 1964 when we lost a blade from one of her 18’ five bladed screws while in the Med. We came back to Brooklyn Navy Yard Dry Dock to replace that propeller. Everyone was amazed just how big an aircraft carrier is when viewed from her keel to the top of her masts when out of water. This was an experience one never forgets as those viewing USS New Jersey in dry dock now will remember for the rest of their lives & talk about. Thanks Ryan, 🙏🇨🇦👍
I got to do drydock tour with the USS Intrepid CVS-11 TWICE. Once as part of the crew in Boston. Second time as a Former Crewmember in Bayone. Not too many people get that Honor.
I haven't seen a warship in dry dock yet. I'd like to see one of our current classes of submarines in dry dock, but I reckon that would be a national security issue.
As part of the commissioning crew, we had plenty of drydock time with USS Fitzgerald, DDG-62. I'd love to see the Ford on blocks.
The USS FORRESTAL CV-59 when it was in dry dock in Philly ship yard.
Coolest ship in drydock was the one I served on. USS Deyo DD-989 we were in drydock at the Newport News shipyard for the VLS install in the 90s
Ryan, that thumbnail with the tour at the bow of the ship was stunning. Really shows how large the ship is which is not as apparent when it’s in the water at the dock. Thanks Ryan❣️
When in Norfolk in 87-88. Some LA class submarines were in drydock.. excellent.
But my ship lsd32 was a drydock for lcu, lcm, lcac, and other Marine taxis.
The last year I was active duty USN I walked underneath the USS Forrestal in dry dock before she became ATV-59 & was transferred to NAS Penscola.
US Navy 10/63 - 6/86 Retired Chief Sonar Tech. Got to walk under one Destroyer twice, another once, and Frigate/DE once. Destroyer types sit 2 to 3 times as high on the blocks due to the sonar dome hanging off the bottom or "chin".
When I was a GM Seaman stationed aboard the USS BORIE DD704 I was aboard the ship when she went into drydock back in 1951 at the USN facilities in Norfolk VA. That was a wonderful experience and glad I had that opportunity.
I had no idea Texas was a pioneer in this, and I’m glad to know some of the complexities involved in making tours like this happen
I was able to see the USS Ranger CV-61 in dry dock in Long Beach in 1988, although I didn't have the opportunity to go down into the dock and walk under her hull! I was stationed aboard Ranger at the time, but assigned to beach detachment at NAS North Island to rehab all of our "Yellow Gear" at the time. I made the drive up to see her because I wanted to see her out of the water, but it was the weekend and the dry dock was closed so I could not go down into the dock.
Managed to get to the launch of a Royal Navy destroyer many years ago, from Yarrows on the Clyde. That was pretty cool, seeing it out of and then in the water 😁
I love the in-depth answers to these questions.
I got to see the old JFK carrier when it was in drydock at the Philly Navey Yard. I think it was the last Arcraft Carrier to be drydocked in Philly.
I'd like to see the USS Constitution in drydock! Thanks Ryan. BB-35 was pretty awesome while in drydock, saw her everyday she was there. Now that she has been refloated and continuing her refitting...she's still pretty AWESOME!
Battleship Missouri when it was in dry dock in Long Beach Naval shipyard. Thanks for sharing this about future ships and dry dock tours!
Coolest ‘boat’ I have ever seen out of the water - USS Georgia during conversion, USS Seawolf and USS Jimmy Carter. USS Constellation 1996. All interesting for different reasons.
Dave here, I have been under the USS Carl Vinson, CVN-70, during construction before she was launched.
Not a drydock tour, however once I was sailing down the Oakland/Alameda Estuary and saw several phases of the USS Pampanito being towed into a floating drydock, then starting to be lifted out. Another day I saw her and sitting high and dry. I should definitely find those pictures...
Easy, my dad's 37' sailboat. About every 10 years, into the yard and a big barnacle scraping party. The ship I'd most like to see out of the water, USS Astoria (CA 34) or USS Houston (CA 30). My grandfather served aboard Astoria from commissioning to 1937. USS Houston had near mythical status as part of "the fleet the gods forgot" with her exact fate unknown for years. I'd love to see either, in their glory days before the war.
Excellent narrative and explanation of the difficulties and new successes dry docking, protecting these great vessels.
The only ship i saw out of water is the late steamship Szőke Tisza II. It was originally called Charles IV when it was finished in 1917, named after the last Astro-Hungarian king. It had a bunch of name changes over the decades and was moved from Budapest to Szeged in the late 1970s. After it's use as a floating enetertainment feature, it was towed away into a winter dock and left to rust until 2012, when it broke and partly sunk in it's place. In 2020 it was finally towed to land and jacked up so they could preserve the not fully rusted away parts of it.
Living in Japan I get to see Mikasa all the time. She was recently in dry dock getting painted. A truly great ship
Well so far the coolest ship I've seen out was water was Texas. But tomorrow I'll get to compare that to New Jersey.
They had the USS cole in Sydney Harbour on the back of the heavy sealift transport ship on it's way back to get repaired after it got hit in the side back in 2000, apart from that it's not something you normally get to see around here (KG5 drydock in Sydney is part of HMAS Kuttabul/ Garden island Naval yard in Sydney, They did the yard work on both the local museum ship and the sub we have here).
The last time Constitution was drydocked you couldn't go down into drydock 1 itself, but you could still go on the weatherdeck and the gun deck but no lower... I remember going on her in '15 or '16 when she was out of the water and they had her shored internally to keep from pancaking.
Both Constitution and New Jersey were very cool to see out of the water! But they are two very different animals.
I love this idea of you doing the ship to tour like this
I was able to see North Carolina when she pumped out her coffer dam to work on her hull a few years ago. That was fantastic! It would be awesome to see her go to drydock one day (I am aware of the bridges in her way now) but I know the cofferdam may make it so she will never have to go to drydock.
I know that there is no way I could go there and be there without some Hail Mary, but nothing beats seeing a battleship high and dry. My second course of action would be to see one of the old aircraft carriers in drydock, and who knows, it would be "The Dry I" of all things. Would be nice to have a documentary on this, including the people working on this rather historical process, doesn't happen everyday!
The workers and volunteers deserve a good old fashioned New Jersey beefsteak dinner
Toured the SSN 596 Barb in drydock with my dad who was serving on it at the time.
I have been underneath the USS Coontz (DDG-40) in the floating drydock at Metro Machine and Drydock Company.
Took my tour today. Thank you.
I would love to see HMS Warrior in drydock. Having said that seeing New Jersey or any of the Iowa's would be a privilege.
Was able to be part of two USCG cutters the Chase and Gallatin in dry dock when I serviced on them
I was fortunate to be able to work on our submarine, USS Providence SSN-719 , when we were in dry dock. My job was to climb up into the forward ballast tank to work on our sonar array. That was 25 years ago. While it was a great experience back then, this new opportunity to be able to see BB-62 in dry dock will definitely be a much more rewarding experience because she is a historic icon! Looking forward to my upcoming tour on May 4th, and hope to see you, Ryan!
Seeing you on the dock floor with Jersey behind you really get an idea how big she is.
Ryan,
Great explanation of all the hoops and wickets you had to go through to get permission to do tours in the first place. And, kudos to your shipyard partners who worked with you to facillitate such tours.
Coolest ships I've seen in drydock:
1. My dad's destroyer USS Braine (DD 630) at Swan Island, Portland, Oregon (1970 or 1971). During one of her training cruises, she hit a "deadhead" in the Columbia River, which bent the tip of one of the propeller blades. It was really cool for an 11-year-old to see a ship in drydock, as well as seeing the repair crew heat the propeller tip and bend it back into shape. BTW, a "deadhead" is a log that has broken free from a timber raft, gets waterlogged and then sinks in a vertical position in the river - sort of like running over an unseen telephone pole.
2. My first ship USS South Carolina (CGN 37) at Norfolk Naval Shipyard (1983-1984). Such ships need to be on very high keel blocks to accommodate the bow mounted sonar dome.
3. My last ship USS Joseph Hewes (FF 1078) at Philadelphia Naval Shipyard (1990). The work package included removing the propeller shaft; some of the PSNY engineers gave us an explanation of how the shafting and bearings are aligned. It was also neat to see how the rudder is offset to starboard to allow pulling the propeller shaft without having to unship the rudder.
Ships I would like to see in drydock:
1. Frigate USS Constitution
2. Corvette USS Constellation
3. Armored cruiser USS Olympia
4. Ocean Liner RMS Queen Mary
the only ship ive seen in dry dock is NJ . i wasnt thinking of seeing another ship this way .seeing a Battle wagon especially of this caliber was probably my only wish list . i saw NJ on April 6th and was double lucky to meet Ryan and the CEO at the safety video area . thanks for all your good work .
The Screw Frigate “Jutland”, Ebeltoft, Denmark. Wonderful.
What a beautiful beast!
Coolest ship I've seen out of the water: Tally Ho! Ok, not quite a ship, but very cool anyhow. And back in the water for almost a week now!
Flying across the country to see a battleship didn't fly with the Mrs, but maybe if Iowa gets into a dry dock some time in the next 20 years ill be able to see her. Great work as always.
I lived in and worked in the pearl harbor area for a few years, i don't think I ever saw a ship out of water. We had some cool tours both public and not around Ford island. Thanks for the videos!
I like seeing you talking about the New Jersey!! My husband is retired Navy, so he can tell me things as well! Also, my dad was in WWII and always had stories for me! So, I gained my interest for Navy ships!!!
I've gone on a drydock tour of New Jersey already so that sets the standard. I would love to see United States in dry dock.
USS Enterprise CVN 80, which is currently being built I would love to see under her before her launch next year!
I would really love to see the Titanic as crazy & impossible as that sounds… I love ships, they are a marvel to me. Was on the Queen Mary twice, it was a pleasure being on her & learning the history of those days of sea going travel before airliners. As far as military ships , Carriers are the ones I appreciate the most, I would love to see a Nimitz & Ford Class carrier in the dry dock as well as top side when in the water. I was on the USS North Carolina in Wilmington NC in 2005, that was a fun & interesting day.
Hmm quite cool was seeing two los angeles class subs in dty docks in nordolk navy yard from the deck of my vessel when we sailed past